September 2017 - Accountability-Cross-Community

Re: [CCWG-ACCT] SOAC-Accountability question, for reply by 11-Sep-2017
by Steve Crocker Sept. 8, 2017

Sept. 8, 2017

Jon, That’s an important question. I can’t speak for any of the other groups, but I’ve watched SSAC from its inception. I may be biased, but I think SSAC maintains a desire to be inclusive. There are some other factors that are also always on their mind. A key one is competence, i.e. does a prospective member know the subject area and having something to contribute. Another is burnout. Capture is always possible, but I think the group is strongly oriented toward diversity — not just gender and geographic diversity but technical diversity. I would expect that if the group did fall into a mode of being too insular, the review process or other external processes might shine a light on the problem. Steve > On Sep 8, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Jon Nevett <jon(a)donuts.email> wrote: > > Wondering whether or not it Is a good practice for a group to choose its own members at the exclusion of others. Is there risk of capture and discrimination? If so, what are the potential solutions to minimize that risk? > > >> On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Steve Crocker <steve.crocker(a)board.icann.org> wrote: >> >> Avri, et al, >> >> FWIW, SSAC adopted a term limit rule. It did so on its own without pressure from the Board or elsewhere. >> >> Implementation detail: The bylaws say the Board appoints SSAC members. I don’t recall the exact wording, but the interpretation includes the Board appointing the chair. What’s evolved in practice, however, is SSAC chooses its own members and elects its own chair. These decisions are then sent to the Board for formal approval. SSAC has been careful over the years to select well qualified people and to elect quite competent chairs, so the Board has never been presented with a difficult case. >> >> SSAC also has a liaison on the Board. The bylaws place no limits on the length of time a liaison can serve. In principle, it’s an annual appointment and can be renewed indefinitely. And if the appointing body happens not to formally renew the appointment, the incumbent automatically continues. SSAC has chosen to package this into three year terms, i.e. to appoint someone and then reappoint him or her automatically the next two years, thereby creating a de facto three year term. Further, I believe they have adopted a limit on the number of terms the liaison can serve. (All of this is written down in their operational manual. Julie Hedlund in David Olive’s group has ready access to it and can provide a copy.) >> >> I share this as a worked example. Use it or not, as desired. >> >> Steve >> >> >>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:10 PM, avri doria <avri(a)apc.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, one implements a program. A group considering and recording the >>> consideration is an action/activity that would need to be implemented. >>> >>> The suggestion here is that formal consideration by a group of term >>> limits is a good practice. >>> >>> It is not a question of considering implementation, it is about >>> implementing consideration. >>> >>> Avri >>> >>> >>> On 08-Sep-17 15:46, Steve DelBianco wrote: >>>> Avri — we are recommending Good Practices that the group believes are >>>> worth implementing (if applicable). >>>> >>>> None of the other 28 Good Practices suggest to “consider” something to >>>> do. All are suggestive that implementation is a good practice, and >>>> all our recommendations imply that AC/SO/Groups should therefore >>>> “consider" implementation. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces(a)icann.org >>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf >>>> of avri doria <avri(a)apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>> >>>> Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 at 3:32 PM >>>> To: "accountability-cross-community(a)icann.org >>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>" >>>> <accountability-cross-community(a)icann.org >>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> >>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] SOAC-Accountability question, for reply by >>>> 11-Sep-2017 >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My understanding was that the statement being discussed was whether they >>>> should consider term limits. >>>> >>>> I think this is an important difference. And I think that strengthening >>>> the statement into something that is easier to disagree with, is >>>> unfortunate. >>>> >>>> I think the act of considering the need for term limits is all that is >>>> required. You are right, it is not best for all. But considering >>>> whether to impose them or not is a good practice as it gives those who >>>> hold positions without term limits who may see no reason for term >>>> limits, to be challenged by those out of power who may think they are >>>> needed. At this point there is no recommendation that all SOAC/AG/C >>>> consider term limits so those who want them may be flat out of luck. >>>> >>>> I suggest that we avoid change the wording of the recommendation and >>>> that we support the recommendation that all entities consider whether >>>> they need term limits or not. >>>> >>>> I personally believe that yes, we should add the consideration of terms >>>> limits as a good practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> avri >>>> >>>> >>>> On 08-Sep-17 09:27, Steve DelBianco wrote: >>>> >>>> As discussed on our SOAC team call yesterday, we are nearly finished >>>> with our public comment responses >>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uAjMUtnaigi5-zSMGmmIbvFNcPxGQC0cMB_…> >>>> and updated recommendation >>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sT6SscZLT7VK2rVFOMPaiK1Qd8vlVLkm0boRX7I…> >>>> to the CCWG. >>>> >>>> One remaining question is whether to add an additional Good Practice >>>> to the 28 we already have in our report. >>>> >>>> The purpose of this email is to hear from all members of >>>> SOAC-Accountability as to whether our report should include this new >>>> proposed Good Practice: >>>> >>>> >>>> *An AC/SO/Group that elects its officers should impose term >>>> limits. * >>>> >>>> Note that this proposed Good Practice would _only_ apply to >>>> AC/SO/Groups that have elections. And as with all of our Good >>>> Practices, we describe applicability in our Executive Summary: >>>> >>>> In Track 1 we recommend 29 Good Practices that each SO/AC/Group >>>> should implement, to the extent these practices are >>>> applicable and >>>> an improvement over present practices. We do not recommend that >>>> implementation of these practices be required. Nor do we >>>> recommend >>>> any changes to the ICANN bylaws. We do recommend that >>>> Operational >>>> Standards for periodic Organizational Reviews conducted by ICANN >>>> could include an assessment of Good Practices implementation in >>>> the AC/SO subject to the review. >>>> >>>> And we include this caveat on page 8: >>>> >>>> "AC/SO/Groups are only expected to implement Good Practices to >>>> the extent that these practices are applicable and an improvement >>>> over present practices, in the view of AC/SO/Group participants. >>>> Again, we do not recommend that implementation of these >>>> practices >>>> be required by AC/SO/Groups.” >>>> >>>> Please reply to all by 11-Sep with your view on whether we should add >>>> Term Limits as a Good Practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >>>> Accountability-Cross-Community(a)icann.org >>>> <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >>>> Accountability-Cross-Community(a)icann.org >>>> <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >>> Accountability-Cross-Community(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >

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WS2 August 2017 dashboard
by Nathalie Vergnolle Sept. 8, 2017

Sept. 8, 2017

Dear all, The August update of WS-2 Dashboard is now available (see attached), and has been posted to the wiki <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+Dashboard> here. Thank you, Nathalie. Nathalie Vergnolle Sr. Project Manager, Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives ICANN nathalie.vergnolle(a)icann.org <mailto:nathalie.vergnolle@icann.org> Telephone Direct: +1(310) 578-8957 Cell: +1(310) 871-8561 Skype: Nathalie.vergnolle.icann 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536

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Recordings, DAIRs, Raw Caption Notes for CCWG Accountability Plenary #20 | 30 August 2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 8, 2017

Sept. 8, 2017

Hello all, You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for CCWG Accountability WS2 Plenary Meeting #20 – 30 August 2017 posted at https://community.icann.org/x/8wQhB. The transcript will be posted on when it becomes available (usually in 3 to 5 business days after the call). A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) [cid:image001.png@01D32887.62746E90] Action Items: * (none) Raw Caption Notes Disclaimer: This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272819/CCWG%20ACCT%20PLE…> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272819/CCWG%20ACCT%20PLE…> * Word doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272819/CCWG%20ACCT%20PLE…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272819/CCWG%20ACCT%20PLE…> Decisions: * CEP sub-group is closed down and its issues for consideration are transferred to the IOT sub-group. * The CCWG-Accountability will not consider recommendations from a sub-group for inclusion in the final report if they have not been through at least one public comment period. * The Diversity draft recommendations successfully completed its first reading. * The point on quorum from Kavouss Arasteh will be put at the top of the agenda for the next meeting. Requests: * (none) Documents: * CCWG-ACCT_Plenary-20170830-Slides-V1.0BT<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272819/CCWG-ACCT_Plenary…>

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Corrected: Recordings, DAIRs, Raw Caption Notes for IRP-IOT Meeting #29 - 7 September 2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 7, 2017

Sept. 7, 2017

Hello all, My apologies, wrong CCWG meeting details were attached to prior email. The following information is accurate for IRP-IOT meeting on 7 September. You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for IRP-IOT Meeting #29 on 7 September 2017 here: https://community.icann.org/x/VhIhB The transcript will be posted on when it becomes available (usually in 3 to 5 business days after the call). A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers [cid:image001.png@01D327ED.21BA8280] Action Items: * SE to provide language in the next few days regarding Standing on the Joinder issue. DM to revue when submitted. * Periodic Reviews of ROP – DM to draft amendments as per discussion (AD middle ground, SE additional roles). * Staff (BT) – Advise the IOT as to the process and dates for extending support beyond the current FY. * SE – provide input on Cost issue. * DM – Will provide an initial document on CEP to the IOT for the next meeting. Raw Caption Notes: *Note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call * Word Doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69276246/CCWG-Accountabili…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69276246/CCWG-Accountabili…> Decisions: * It is expected that the work of the IOT will continue beyond June 2018. As such the necessary work in preparing a budget request for FY18 should be undertaken as per standard processes internally in ICANN. Requests: * (none)

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Recordings, DAIRs, Raw Caption Notes for IRP-IOT Meeting #32 - 7 September 2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 7, 2017

Sept. 7, 2017

Hello all, You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for IRP-IOT Meeting #32 on 7 September 2017 here: https://community.icann.org/x/RB4hB The transcript will be posted on when it becomes available (usually in 3 to 5 business days after the call). A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers [cid:image001.png@01D327EC.781259B0] Action Items: * Rapporteurs will draft a statement for the list as per the above decision. Raw Captioning Notes Disclaimer: This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. * Word Doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/CCWG-Accountabili…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/CCWG-Accountabili…> Documents Presented * SOAC-Accountability Report Plenary Draft 3.2<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/SOAC-Accountabili…> * Summary of Public Comments<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/summary%20of%20pu…> Decisions: * Recommendation of term limits still divergent. Text explaining this should go to the list which will ask for comments within 72 hours. * There will be a call on 14 September 1900 to finalize the report and decide if the sub-group recommends an additional public consultation on these to the Plenary. Requests: * None

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Recordings, DAIRs, Raw Caption Notes for SO/AC Subgroup Meeting #32 | 7 September 2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 7, 2017

Sept. 7, 2017

Hello all, You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for CCWG Accountability WS2 SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #32 – 7 September 2017 posted at https://community.icann.org/x/RB4hB. The transcript will be posted on when it becomes available (usually in 3 to 5 business days after the call). A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) [cid:image001.png@01D327CF.3026A970] Action Items: * Rapporteurs will draft a statement for the list as per the above decision. Raw Captioning Notes Disclaimer: This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. * Word Doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/CCWG-Accountabili…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/CCWG-Accountabili…> Documents Presented * SOAC-Accountability Report Plenary Draft 3.2<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/SOAC-Accountabili…> * Summary of Public Comments<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279300/summary%20of%20pu…> Decisions: * Recommendation of term limits still divergent. Text explaining this should go to the list which will ask for comments within 72 hours. * There will be a call on 14 September 1900 to finalize the report and decide if the sub-group recommends an additional public consultation on these to the Plenary. Requests: * None

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Recordings, DAIRs, Raw Caption Notes for Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #45 | 6 September 2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 6, 2017

Sept. 6, 2017

Hello all, You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for CCWG Accountability WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #45 – 6 September 2017 posted at https://community.icann.org/x/diUhB. The transcript will be posted on when it becomes available (usually in 3 to 5 business days after the call). A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) [cid:image001.png@01D32735.BBE71570] Action Items: * GS to amend draft OFAC recommendation per discussions. Raw Captioning Notes Disclaimer: This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. * Word Doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69281142/CCWG-Accountabili…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69281142/CCWG-Accountabili…> Decisions: * (none) Requests: * Participants comment OFAC recommendation and review issues list. Documents Presented * OFAC Recommendation First Draft 09062017<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69281142/OFAC%20Recommenda…>

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Caption Notes-Recordings-Transcript links for Staff Accountability Subgroup Meeting #27- 30 August2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 5, 2017

Sept. 5, 2017

Hello all, You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for CCWG Accountability WS2 Staff Accountability Subgroup Meeting #27 – 30 August 2017 posted at https://community.icann.org/x/fgIhB The transcript will be posted on when it becomes available (usually in 3 to 5 business days after the call). A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) [cid:image001.png@01D3233F.311F8F20] Action Items: * AD will review the document to include the edits discussed and the revised document will be presented to the sub-group for its second ready at the next meeting scheduled for 13 September (documents for the September plenary are due on 20 September). Raw Captioning Notes Please note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call * Word Doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272190/CCWG-STAFF%20ACCO…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272190/CCWG-STAFF%20ACCO…> Decisions: * Draft document accepted for a first reading by the sub-group with some suggestions for improvement. Requests: * (None) Documents Presented * Report Staff Acct - Rev 1.2<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272190/Report%20Staff%20…>

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Recordings, DAIRs, Raw Caption Notes for Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #44 | 30 August 2017
by MSSI Secretariat Sept. 1, 2017

Sept. 1, 2017

Hello all, You may find the recordings, Decisions, Action Items, Requests (DAIRs), and raw caption notes for CCWG Accountability WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #44 – 30 August 2017 posted at https://community.icann.org/x/TwIhB A copy of the DAIRs and raw caption notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) [cid:image001.png@01D32339.85FA0760] Action Items: * GS to create a google doc for major issues and distribute link to list. * GS to create a google doc for the OFAC recommendation and distribute the link to the list. Raw Captioning Notes Disclaimer: This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. * Word Doc<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272143/CCWG-Accountabili…> * PDF<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272143/CCWG-Accountabili…> Decisions: * Begin next call with a discussion of choice of law issue in registrar and registry agreements Requests: * Participants review the major issues google doc to ensure all issues are presented in some fashion (the objective was to regroup issues and not to list issues presented by individuals) * Participants review the draft OFAC recommendation google doc. Documents Presented * Proposed Issues Submitted by Subgroup Participants<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272143/Proposed%20Issues…> * OFAC Recommendation First Draft<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69272143/OFAC%20Recommenda…>

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