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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

I can speak. No guarantee anyone takes my sage advice to heart. Occasionally they do. If it is something that is deemed to be of importance, then we should be doing prior one-on-one talking to get support and gauge what other opinions are. Draft motion just came out and I have no sense of others' thoughts on it. Alan At 02/10/2012 03:59 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >On 2 October 2012 14:40, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Yes. The motion was drafted by staff and at this time, it is unclear >exactly what direction the GNSO plans to take, so they have >reasonably given a number of options. >How the GNSO will decide has not had any discussion that I have been privy to. >Opinions welcome. > > >Hi Alan, > >Do we (you) have any ability to influence a council decision like >this? Do you have any sense of the prevailing winds? > >- Evan > > > >At 02/10/2012 01:06 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote: > >Hi Alan: > >Thanks for the update. > > > >When you say 'several variations' to the draft motion, presumably > >this refers the bracketed portions in the text, yes? > > > >And does this mean these will be taken individually for consideration? > > > >Best, > >- Carlton > > > >============================== > >Carlton A Samuels > >Mobile: <tel:876-818-1799>876-818-1799 > >Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > >============================= > > > > > >On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Greenberg > ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca><mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: > >Attached is a slightly updated version of the Final Issue Report on > >the protection of names of international organizations as well as a > >draft motion (with several variations) for the consideration fo the GNSO. > > > >Alan > > > >From: Margie Milam <<mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org>Margie.Milam(a)icann.org> > >To: "<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org" > ><<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org> > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:36:30 -0700 > >Subject: [council] Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on > >the Protection of > > the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs > > > >Dear All, > > > >Please find attached for the GNSO Council's review and > >consideration, a draft motion to initiate a PDP on the Protection of > >the Names of International Organizations. > > > >Also attached is an updated Final Issue Report. The only changes > >relate to cleaning up the use of certain definitions (using INGOs of NGOs). > > > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. > > > >Best regards, > > > >_________ > > > >Margie Milam > >Senior Policy Counselor > >ICANN > >_________ > > > > > >From: Margie Milam > >Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:53 AM > >To: <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org > >Subject: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of > >International Organizations in New GTLDs > > > >Dear All, > > > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and > >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names > >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue > >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the > >Preliminary Issue Report. > > > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the > >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > > > >All the Best, > > > >Margie Milam > > > >_________ > > > >Margie Milam > >Senior Policy Counselor > >ICANN > >_________ > >Content-Type: application/msword; name="Motion on the Initiation > of a PDP on" > > Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc" > >Content-Description: Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on Protection of > > Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc > >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Motion on the > Initiation of a PDP" > > on Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc"; size=31232; > > creation-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:40:51 GMT"; > > modification-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:33:26 GMT" > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ALAC mailing list > ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.ica > nn.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > >At-Large Online: > <<http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > >ALAC Working Wiki: > ><<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Com > mittee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: ><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > >-- >Evan Leibovitch >Toronto Canada >Em: evan at telly dot org >Sk: evanleibovitch >Tw: el56

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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

Before we decide on the mechanism, perhaps we should decide on WHAT it is we want to say. Alan At 02/10/2012 04:57 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > > > >Hi Alan, > >Do we (you) have any ability to influence a council decision like this? Do >you have any sense of the prevailing winds? > >- Evan > >Thanks Alan. @ Evan I would suggest that the ALAC consider writing a >letter to the GNSO Council. The GAC has on more than one instance >been known to have written to the GNSO Council on this matter and >their voices have even been heard. > >Kind Regards, >Sala > > > > > > > At 02/10/2012 01:06 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote: > > >Hi Alan: > > >Thanks for the update. > > > > > >When you say 'several variations' to the draft motion, presumably > > >this refers the bracketed portions in the text, yes? > > > > > >And does this mean these will be taken individually for consideration? > > > > > >Best, > > >- Carlton > > > > > >============================== > > >Carlton A Samuels > > >Mobile: 876-818-1799 > > >Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > > >============================= > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Greenberg > > ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca><mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.c > a>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: > > >Attached is a slightly updated version of the Final Issue Report on > > >the protection of names of international organizations as well as a > > >draft motion (with several variations) for the consideration fo the GNSO. > > > > > >Alan > > > > > >From: Margie Milam > <<mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org><mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org>Margie.Milam(a)icann.org > > > > > >To: > "<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org><mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org" > > ><<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org><mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>co > uncil(a)gnso.icann.org> > > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:36:30 -0700 > > >Subject: [council] Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on > > >the Protection of > > > the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs > > > > > >Dear All, > > > > > >Please find attached for the GNSO Council's review and > > >consideration, a draft motion to initiate a PDP on the Protection of > > >the Names of International Organizations. > > > > > >Also attached is an updated Final Issue Report. The only changes > > >relate to cleaning up the use of certain definitions (using INGOs of > > NGOs). > > > > > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > >_________ > > > > > >Margie Milam > > >Senior Policy Counselor > > >ICANN > > >_________ > > > > > > > > >From: Margie Milam > > >Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:53 AM > > >To: > <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org><mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org > > >Subject: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of > > >International Organizations in New GTLDs > > > > > >Dear All, > > > > > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and > > >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names > > >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue > > >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the > > >Preliminary Issue Report. > > > > > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the > > >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > > > > > >All the Best, > > > > > >Margie Milam > > > > > >_________ > > > > > >Margie Milam > > >Senior Policy Counselor > > >ICANN > > >_________ > > >Content-Type: application/msword; name="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP > > on" > > > Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc" > > >Content-Description: Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on Protection of > > > Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc > > >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Motion on the Initiation of a > > PDP" > > > on Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc"; size=31232; > > > creation-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:40:51 GMT"; > > > modification-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:33:26 GMT" > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >ALAC mailing list > > ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.i > cann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > > >At-Large Online: > <<http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org> > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > >ALAC Working Wiki: > > >< > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC mailing list > > <mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > >-- >Evan Leibovitch >Toronto Canada > >Em: evan at telly dot org >Sk: evanleibovitch >Tw: el56 >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: ><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > >-- >Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >P.O. Box 17862 >Suva >Fiji > >Twitter: @SalanietaT >Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 > > >

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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

Yes. The motion was drafted by staff and at this time, it is unclear exactly what direction the GNSO plans to take, so they have reasonably given a number of options. How the GNSO will decide has not had any discussion that I have been privy to. Opinions welcome. Alan At 02/10/2012 01:06 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote: >Hi Alan: >Thanks for the update. > >When you say 'several variations' to the draft motion, presumably >this refers the bracketed portions in the text, yes? > >And does this mean these will be taken individually for consideration? > >Best, >- Carlton > >============================== >Carlton A Samuels >Mobile: 876-818-1799 >Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround >============================= > > >On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Attached is a slightly updated version of the Final Issue Report on >the protection of names of international organizations as well as a >draft motion (with several variations) for the consideration fo the GNSO. > >Alan > >From: Margie Milam <<mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org>Margie.Milam(a)icann.org> >To: "<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org" ><<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org> >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:36:30 -0700 >Subject: [council] Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on >the Protection of > the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs > >Dear All, > >Please find attached for the GNSO Council's review and >consideration, a draft motion to initiate a PDP on the Protection of >the Names of International Organizations. > >Also attached is an updated Final Issue Report. The only changes >relate to cleaning up the use of certain definitions (using INGOs of NGOs). > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. > >Best regards, > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________ > > >From: Margie Milam >Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:53 AM >To: <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org >Subject: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of >International Organizations in New GTLDs > >Dear All, > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the >Preliminary Issue Report. > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > >All the Best, > >Margie Milam > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________ >Content-Type: application/msword; name="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on" > Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc" >Content-Description: Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on Protection of > Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP" > on Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc"; size=31232; > creation-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:40:51 GMT"; > modification-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:33:26 GMT" > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: ><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… >

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Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

Attached is a slightly updated version of the Final Issue Report on the protection of names of international organizations as well as a draft motion (with several variations) for the consideration fo the GNSO. Alan >From: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam(a)icann.org> >To: "council(a)gnso.icann.org" <council(a)gnso.icann.org> >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:36:30 -0700 >Subject: [council] Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on >the Protection of > the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs > >Dear All, > >Please find attached for the GNSO Council's review and >consideration, a draft motion to initiate a PDP on the Protection of >the Names of International Organizations. > >Also attached is an updated Final Issue Report. The only changes >relate to cleaning up the use of certain definitions (using INGOs of NGOs). > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. > >Best regards, > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________ > > >From: Margie Milam >Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:53 AM >To: council(a)gnso.icann.org >Subject: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of >International Organizations in New GTLDs > >Dear All, > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the >Preliminary Issue Report. > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > >All the Best, > >Margie Milam > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________ >Content-Type: application/msword; name="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on" > Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc" >Content-Description: Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on Protection of > Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP" > on Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc"; size=31232; > creation-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:40:51 GMT"; > modification-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:33:26 GMT" >

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Fwd: Draft GNSO WHOIS RT Final Report Summary Chart
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

At the last GNSO Council meeting, the Whois Review Team issue was discussed, specifically the inability of the GNSO Council to submit a single statement addressing the Board's question on advice on how to address the 16 Recommendations due to the wide range of views held by the various SGs and Constituencies. I made a comment that I found it rather unfortunate that a statement could not be submitted, even if it was just a summary of the various views held. That suggestion was accepted and I am attaching a draft of the positions held. As an aside, one of the replies to my suggestion was that the GNSO did not need to oversee such a summary, but rather ICANN staff could have done it and just given it to the Board. I was very taken aback by this, because as some of you may remember, there has been a LOT of discussion about staff taking GNSO reports and statements (and those of other groups such as the ALAC), summarizing them (and perhaps emphasizing some aspects over others) and giving them to the Board. The gist of this discussion is that staff should not be summarizing (and perhaps editorializing), but rather the Board should see the SO/AC position. So this suggestion was almost a wish to return to the bad old days. I did point out that it was fine for policy staff to be involved in such a condensation of positions, but that the GNSO. The attached paper is the result. Alan >From: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam(a)icann.org> >To: "council(a)gnso.icann.org" <council(a)gnso.icann.org> >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:11:21 -0700 >Subject: [council] Draft GNSO WHOIS RT Final Report Summary Chart > >Dear All, > >Please find attached for your review & revision, a chart that >summarizes the various views of the SG/C with respect to each of >the WHOIS RT Final Report's Recommendations. > >The information included in the Chart was obtained from statements >made on email lists & formal statements that were submitted. Please >review them carefully to make sure that the description accurately >captures the sentiment of your SG/C. > >I would appreciate receiving any comments or updates by COB 2 October, 2012. > >All the best, > >Margie > >________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >________

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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

The revised version of the final IR also uses the term INGO for international Non-government Organizations which does include the Red Cross - Red Crescent movement as well as the IOC. Alan At 02/10/2012 11:27 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: >Dear Alan, > >I am glad to see common sense prevail in the manner in which the >Motion is drafted and I gather that the Group is narrowing by using >the "IGO" to narrow the tests but I would have rather that they have >used IOs and then use the PDP process to narrow the criteria even further. > >Neither Red Cross nor IOC are IGOs. > >Ah well the ball's now in the GNSO Council's court. > >Thanks for the update. > >Kind Regards, >Sala > >On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Attached is a slightly updated version of the Final Issue Report on >the protection of names of international organizations as well as a >draft motion (with several variations) for the consideration fo the GNSO. > >Alan > >From: Margie Milam <<mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org>Margie.Milam(a)icann.org> >To: "<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org" ><<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org> >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:36:30 -0700 >Subject: [council] Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on >the Protection of > the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs > >Dear All, > >Please find attached for the GNSO Council's review and >consideration, a draft motion to initiate a PDP on the Protection of >the Names of International Organizations. > >Also attached is an updated Final Issue Report. The only changes >relate to cleaning up the use of certain definitions (using INGOs of NGOs). > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. > >Best regards, > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________ > > >From: Margie Milam >Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:53 AM >To: <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org >Subject: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of >International Organizations in New GTLDs > >Dear All, > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the >Preliminary Issue Report. > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > >All the Best, > >Margie Milam > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________ >Content-Type: application/msword; name="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on" > Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc" >Content-Description: Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on Protection of > Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Motion on the Initiation of a PDP" > on Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc"; size=31232; > creation-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:40:51 GMT"; > modification-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:33:26 GMT" > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: ><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > >-- >Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >P.O. Box 17862 >Suva >Fiji > >Twitter: @SalanietaT >Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 > > >

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Fwd: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

From the GNSO Council list. Alan >Dear All, > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the >Preliminary Issue Report. > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > >All the Best, > >Margie Milam > >_________ > >Margie Milam >Senior Policy Counselor >ICANN >_________

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Fwd: [ISOC-AU-mems] itNews: 'Europe slams WHOIS data demands'
by Holly Raiche Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

Hi Everyone An email circulated on the Internet Society of Australia's mailing list - another aspect of the Whois accuracy debate Holly Begin forwarded message: > > > Europe slams WHOIS data demands > Juha Saarinen > Oct 2, 2012 4:27 AM (10 hours ago) > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/317528,europe-slams-whois-data-demands.aspx > > Extensive data retention proposals slammed. > > A European watchdog has opposed moved by the Internet Corporation for > Assigned Named and Numbers (ICANN) to force domain name registrars to > improve accuracy of the WHOIS database. > > Jacob Kohnstamm, chairman of the European Union's working party on > data protection, told ICANN's chairman and interim CEO in a letter > that the proposed changes to the organisation's registrar > accreditation agreements would likely run contrary to European > citizens' right to privacy. > > News blog Domain Incite, which published the EU letter, said the > changes included forcing registrars to re-verify domain registrant > contact data every year while retaining customer data for two years > after registration ends. > > The changes have been requested by law enforcement, according to > Domain Incite, and is backed up by the Governmental Advisory > Committee (GAC) of ICANN. Australia has a supporting delegate in the > committee. > > The WHOIS database provides public information about website > registration details including contact information and registration. > > It was originally designed to provide contact points for technical > and registration queries but has of late been accessed by law > enforcement to track down criminal activity on the Internet. > > "The fact that WHOIS data can be used for other beneficial purposes > does not in itself legitimise the collection and processing of > personal data for those other purposes," Kohnstamm wrote. > > The re-verification requirement was "excessive and therefore > unlawful", he said. > > Due to WHOIS databases having unlimited public accessibility, contact > details in them have been harvested on a large scale and abused for > spamming, the Working Group said. > > Thanks to the abuse, there is a strong incentive for people to > provide inaccurate contact details. > > ICANN had failed to address the spamming problem, making the proposed > solution a "disproportionate infringement of the right to protection > of personal data". > > A second proposal requiring extensive data retention based on wishes > from law enforcement was also deemed unlawful by the Working Group. > > Under ICANN's propsal, registrars would be forced to retain not only > registrants' personal information for two years after the > registration ceases, but also a raft of other data including phone > and email addresses not in WHOIS, credit card data and communications > identifiers such as Skype handles. > > Extensive logging with source Internet Protocol addresses and HTTP > headers, as well as dates, times, and time zones of communications > and sessions was also suggested. > > Acccording to Domain Incite, ICANN could impose the new requirements > despite EU objections, giving registrars in the European Union the > ability to stay out of the new requirements to comply with local > privacy laws. > > ICANN negotiations are currently being held on the topic have been > underway over WHOIS, whose information is often considered > inaccurate, obfuscated or non-existent. > > > [It doesn't appear that ISOC-AU has previously had a policy on this: > http://www.isoc-au.org.au/Submissions/SubmissionsByTopic.php > > [APF submitted re privacy and Whois: > in 2010: > http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/WhoIs-RCI-101021.pdf > http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/WhoIs-RCI-Anal-1010.pdf > in 2001: > http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/AuDA010321.html > > > -- > Roger Clarke http://www.rogerclarke.com/ > > Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd 78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 AUSTRALIA > Tel: +61 2 6288 1472, and 6288 6916 > mailto:Roger.Clarke@xamax.com.au http://www.xamax.com.au/ > > Visiting Professor in the Faculty of Law University of NSW > Visiting Professor in Computer Science Australian National University > _______________________________________________ > iamems mailing list > iamems(a)lists.isoc-au.org.au > http://lists.isoc-au.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iamems > > List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.isoc-au.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iamems>, > <mailto:iamems-request@lists.isoc-au.org.au?subject=unsubscribe>

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Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

The IOC/RC Drafting Team has put their recommendations out for Public Comment. The initial comment period ends on October 20th (the Saturday immediately after the Toronto ICANN meeting) and the reply period on November 9th. <https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep…>https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep… The ALAC, with some reluctance, supported the statement at its 25 September meeting. The summary of the ALAC position is included within the report. We could let that statement speak for itself, or add further thoughts in the official comment process. Certainly it is an opportunity for those who felt the compromise position should be rejected (likely resulting in the GNSO making no recommendation and leaving it to the Board to decide the outcome as it implied in its recent motion) to publicly voice their position. Alan

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