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Congratulations Yrjo!
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Oct. 5, 2012

Oct. 5, 2012

Dear Yrjo, Congratulations Yrjo on making NomCom Chair! I wish you well in your new appointment. Warm Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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Re: [ALAC] [At-Large] CALL FOR EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST for ALAC Liaisons to serve from October 2012 to ICANN AGM 2013
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 5, 2012

Oct. 5, 2012

Thank you Rinalia and Sala. :-) Alan At 04/10/2012 10:00 PM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote: >Great! I second this nomination for Alan Greenberg as well. :) > >On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Thank you Eduardo. I an willing to serve in this >capacity and I accept the nomination. > >Alan > >At 04/10/2012 09:19 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: > >I wish to nominate Cheryl Langdon-Orr to continue as the ALAC ccTLD > >Liaison and Alan Greenberg to continue as the ALAC Gnso Liaison. > > > >-ed > > > >On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Cheryl > >Langdon-Orr <<mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com>langdonorr(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > I currently serve, and have done since > October 2010 as the ALAC Liaison to > > > the ccNSO Council, and *if* a Member of the ALAC wished to nominate me > > > *and* I was privileged to be selected, Please note that I would be most > > > willing to serve in this capacity for a FINAL YEAR of appointment whilst > > > training up and handing over to other suitable person(s) to be considered > > > next year. So yes I would be also seeking > an 'apprentice or two' to work > > > with. > > > > > > > > > *Cheryl Langdon-Orr ... **(CLO)* > > > <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 October 2012 10:45, Olivier MJ > Crepin-Leblond <<mailto:ocl@gih.com>ocl(a)gih.com> wrote: > > > > > > > *Call for Expressions of Interest for ALAC Liaisons to serve from > > > > October 2012 to ICANN AGM 2013* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ALAC Liaison positions, and those currently serving in the role > > > > (until the ICANN AGM in Toronto) are > listed below. The incumbent Liaisons > > > > > > > > are able to stand for reappointment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that only current ALAC members can nominate and select the > > > > Liaisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Nominations are now called for each of > the following Liaison positions:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > · GNSO liaison -- Currently held by Alan Greenberg > > > > > <<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Alan+Greenberg+SOI>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Alan+Greenberg+SOI> > > > > > > > > · ccNSO -- Currently held by Cheryl Langdon-Orr > > > > > > > > · SSAC -- Currently held by Julie Hammer > > > > > <<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Julie+Hammer+SOI>https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Julie+Hammer+SOI> > > > > > > > > · IDN Policy -- Currently held by Edmon Chung > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/Edmon+Chung+-+Bio+and+Statement+…>https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/Edmon+Chung+-+Bio+and+Statement+… > > > > > > > > > > > > > · NCSG -- Currently held by Evan Leibovitch > > > > > <<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Evan+Leibovitch+SOI>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Evan+Leibovitch+SOI> > > > > > > > > The DotMobi Liaison position is remaining vacant pending clarification > > > > from DotMobi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *2012-2103 ALAC Liaison Selection Schedule: * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * 4 October 2012 - Call for Expressions of Interest (to be sent to > > > > lists.) > > > > * 10 October 2012 - Deadline for Liaison Nominations (to be sent to > > > > lists.) > > > > * 15 October 2012 - Chair to post to > the public ALAC list a "selection > > > > summary" message (sent to lists). > > > > * 15-18 October 2012 - Nominations are discussed. > > > > * 19 October 2012 - Deadline for Nominees to Accept their Nomination > > > > (sent to lists and or as notified and recorded on the relevant > > > > Election Pages of the At-Large Wiki.) > > > > * 22-26 October 2012 - Selection of ALAC Liaisons -- if elections are > > > > required, they will be held 22-26 October 2012. Where only one > > > > nomination is received for any Liaison position, the nominee will be > > > > confirmed in that role on 19 October 2012 > > > > * 26 October 2012 - Selection/Election Results announced and any > > > > unconfirmed Liaisons begin in their roles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Relevant Rules from the ALAC Rules of Procedure: * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RULE 4 - ELECTION OF LIAISONS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.1 Liaisons to ICANN's Advisory Committees, Supporting Organizations > > > > and Constituencies can be established by approval of the Committee; in > > > > > > > > that case, they will follow the rules established for the appointment > > > > and functioning of the GNSO Liaison > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.2 **Refers to *The Board Liaison*, and > is therefore not relevant here, > > > > and will be redacted from the revised ALAC ROPs* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.3 The election can take place by electronic mail, online balloting, > > > > written balloting, or any other means deemed convenient and accurate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.4 All liaisons serve for a term of one year starting from the closure > > > > of an Annual General Meeting and ending at the closure of the following > > > > > > > > Annual General Meeting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.5 Liaisons shall be freely chosen by the ALAC, according to the > > > > following criteria: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.6 They shall normally be persons who are current or former members of > > > > the ALAC, or are anyway familiar with the activities and functioning of > > > > > > > > ICANN and of the ALAC; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.7 They shall accept to serve on behalf of the At-Large Community by > > > > acting for the good of the entire Committee, working to bridge > > > > > > > > differences and build consensus, but also recognizing difference and > > > > enabling different opinions to be shared; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.8 They shall accept, while acting in their capacity as an ALAC > > > > representative, to put the collective views of the ALAC, always, in > > > > front of their own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RULE 5 - QUALIFICATION CRITERIA FOR LIAISONS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.1 There is no requirement for a Liaison > to be a member of the At-Large > > > > Advisory Committee;* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.2 A conflict of interest statement must be filed; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.3 A person may not serve two different liaison positions at the same > > > > time; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.4 All liaisons can be removed before the end of their term by a vote > > > > of recall according to rule 11; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.5 All liaisons have a duty of performing their roles with diligence > > > > and loyalty to the Committee, and are bound to meet the minimum > > > > > > > > participation requirements set forth in Rule 21. In case of failure to > > > > do so, the Chair shall call a vote of recall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mission and responsibilities of each Liaison of the ALAC are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.6 To participate diligently in the > meetings and activities of the body > > > > he/she is liaison to; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.7 To communicate and advocate the positions of the ALAC to such body; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.8 To report to the ALAC the current and upcoming activities of the > > > > body he/she is liaison to, as far as this is possible under the timing > > > > > > > > and confidentiality constraints of such *body;* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.9 When this is possible under such constraints, ask to the ALAC for > > > > advance instructions on matters that are going to be discussed by such > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RULE 6 - PRIVILEGES OF LIAISONS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.1 All liaisons have the same rights of access to information, mailing > > > > lists and documents *as the ordinary ALAC members.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *PLEASE NOTE:* With the exception of the > ALAC ByLaw-mandated liaisons to > > > > the GNSO and the ccNSO, there is no assured travel finding for ALAC > > > > Liaisons to attend > > > > > > > > ICANN Meetings unless they are serving ALAC members. Therefore, > > > > assurances that they can still perform their role will be required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *The 2012-2013 ALAC Liaison Election - > Schedule and Nominees Workspace:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This workspace is available at > <https://community.icann.org/x/lZEoAg>https://community.icann.org/x/lZEoAg. > > > > > > > > It includes the following additional important information: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > · Qualification criteria for liaisons; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > · Privileges of liaisons; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > · Election procedures, including specific procedures for the > > > > ALAC liaison to the SSAC; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > · A table listing who has been nominated for the various liaison > > > > positions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond > > > > > > > > ALAC Chair > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ALAC mailing list > > > > <mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > > > > > At-Large Online: > <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > > > > > > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ALAC mailing list > > > <mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > > > At-Large Online: > <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >*NOTICE:* This email may contain information which is confidential and/or > >subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named > >addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, > >disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by > >mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. > >_______________________________________________ > >At-Large mailing list > ><mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > > >At-Large Official Site: <http://atlarge.icann.org>http://atlarge.icann.org > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: ><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… >

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Re: [ALAC] [At-Large] CALL FOR EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST for ALAC Liaisons to serve from October 2012 to ICANN AGM 2013
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 5, 2012

Oct. 5, 2012

Thank you Eduardo. I an willing to serve in this capacity and I accept the nomination. Alan At 04/10/2012 09:19 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: >I wish to nominate Cheryl Langdon-Orr to continue as the ALAC ccTLD >Liaison and Alan Greenberg to continue as the ALAC Gnso Liaison. > >-ed > >On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Cheryl >Langdon-Orr <langdonorr(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > I currently serve, and have done since October 2010 as the ALAC Liaison to > > the ccNSO Council, and *if* a Member of the ALAC wished to nominate me > > *and* I was privileged to be selected, Please note that I would be most > > willing to serve in this capacity for a FINAL YEAR of appointment whilst > > training up and handing over to other suitable person(s) to be considered > > next year. So yes I would be also seeking an 'apprentice or two' to work > > with. > > > > > > *Cheryl Langdon-Orr ... **(CLO)* > > http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr > > > > > > > > On 5 October 2012 10:45, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com> wrote: > > > > > *Call for Expressions of Interest for ALAC Liaisons to serve from > > > October 2012 to ICANN AGM 2013* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > The ALAC Liaison positions, and those currently serving in the role > > > (until the ICANN AGM in Toronto) are listed below. The incumbent Liaisons > > > > > > are able to stand for reappointment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that only current ALAC members can nominate and select the > > > Liaisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Nominations are now called for each of the following Liaison positions:* > > > > > > > > > > > > · GNSO liaison -- Currently held by Alan Greenberg > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Alan+Greenberg+SOI> > > > > > > · ccNSO -- Currently held by Cheryl Langdon-Orr > > > > > > · SSAC -- Currently held by Julie Hammer > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Julie+Hammer+SOI> > > > > > > · IDN Policy -- Currently held by Edmon Chung > > > < > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/Edmon+Chung+-+Bio+and+Statement+… > > > > > > > > > > · NCSG -- Currently held by Evan Leibovitch > > > <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Evan+Leibovitch+SOI> > > > > > > The DotMobi Liaison position is remaining vacant pending clarification > > > from DotMobi. > > > > > > > > > > > > *2012-2103 ALAC Liaison Selection Schedule: * > > > > > > > > > > > > * 4 October 2012 - Call for Expressions of Interest (to be sent to > > > lists.) > > > * 10 October 2012 - Deadline for Liaison Nominations (to be sent to > > > lists.) > > > * 15 October 2012 - Chair to post to the public ALAC list a "selection > > > summary" message (sent to lists). > > > * 15-18 October 2012 - Nominations are discussed. > > > * 19 October 2012 - Deadline for Nominees to Accept their Nomination > > > (sent to lists and or as notified and recorded on the relevant > > > Election Pages of the At-Large Wiki.) > > > * 22-26 October 2012 - Selection of ALAC Liaisons -- if elections are > > > required, they will be held 22-26 October 2012. Where only one > > > nomination is received for any Liaison position, the nominee will be > > > confirmed in that role on 19 October 2012 > > > * 26 October 2012 - Selection/Election Results announced and any > > > unconfirmed Liaisons begin in their roles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Relevant Rules from the ALAC Rules of Procedure: * > > > > > > > > > > > > RULE 4 - ELECTION OF LIAISONS > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.1 Liaisons to ICANN's Advisory Committees, Supporting Organizations > > > and Constituencies can be established by approval of the Committee; in > > > > > > that case, they will follow the rules established for the appointment > > > and functioning of the GNSO Liaison > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.2 **Refers to *The Board Liaison*, and is therefore not relevant here, > > > and will be redacted from the revised ALAC ROPs* > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.3 The election can take place by electronic mail, online balloting, > > > written balloting, or any other means deemed convenient and accurate > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.4 All liaisons serve for a term of one year starting from the closure > > > of an Annual General Meeting and ending at the closure of the following > > > > > > Annual General Meeting. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.5 Liaisons shall be freely chosen by the ALAC, according to the > > > following criteria: > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.6 They shall normally be persons who are current or former members of > > > the ALAC, or are anyway familiar with the activities and functioning of > > > > > > ICANN and of the ALAC; > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.7 They shall accept to serve on behalf of the At-Large Community by > > > acting for the good of the entire Committee, working to bridge > > > > > > differences and build consensus, but also recognizing difference and > > > enabling different opinions to be shared; > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.8 They shall accept, while acting in their capacity as an ALAC > > > representative, to put the collective views of the ALAC, always, in > > > front of their own. > > > > > > > > > > > > RULE 5 - QUALIFICATION CRITERIA FOR LIAISONS > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.1 There is no requirement for a Liaison to be a member of the At-Large > > > Advisory Committee;* > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.2 A conflict of interest statement must be filed; > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.3 A person may not serve two different liaison positions at the same > > > time; > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.4 All liaisons can be removed before the end of their term by a vote > > > of recall according to rule 11; > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.5 All liaisons have a duty of performing their roles with diligence > > > and loyalty to the Committee, and are bound to meet the minimum > > > > > > participation requirements set forth in Rule 21. In case of failure to > > > do so, the Chair shall call a vote of recall. > > > > > > > > > > > > The mission and responsibilities of each Liaison of the ALAC are: > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.6 To participate diligently in the meetings and activities of the body > > > he/she is liaison to; > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.7 To communicate and advocate the positions of the ALAC to such body; > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.8 To report to the ALAC the current and upcoming activities of the > > > body he/she is liaison to, as far as this is possible under the timing > > > > > > and confidentiality constraints of such *body;* > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.9 When this is possible under such constraints, ask to the ALAC for > > > advance instructions on matters that are going to be discussed by such > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > RULE 6 - PRIVILEGES OF LIAISONS > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.1 All liaisons have the same rights of access to information, mailing > > > lists and documents *as the ordinary ALAC members.* > > > > > > > > > > > > *PLEASE NOTE:* With the exception of the ALAC ByLaw-mandated liaisons to > > > the GNSO and the ccNSO, there is no assured travel finding for ALAC > > > Liaisons to attend > > > > > > ICANN Meetings unless they are serving ALAC members. Therefore, > > > assurances that they can still perform their role will be required. > > > > > > > > > > > > *The 2012-2013 ALAC Liaison Election - Schedule and Nominees Workspace:* > > > > > > > > > > > > This workspace is available at https://community.icann.org/x/lZEoAg. > > > > > > It includes the following additional important information: > > > > > > > > > > > > · Qualification criteria for liaisons; > > > > > > > > > > > > · Privileges of liaisons; > > > > > > > > > > > > · Election procedures, including specific procedures for the > > > ALAC liaison to the SSAC; > > > > > > > > > > > > · A table listing who has been nominated for the various liaison > > > positions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond > > > > > > ALAC Chair > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ALAC mailing list > > > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC mailing list > > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > >-- >*NOTICE:* This email may contain information which is confidential and/or >subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named >addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, >disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by >mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. >_______________________________________________ >At-Large mailing list >At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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Fwd: Invitation to At-Large / ALAC members to attend NCUC's policy conference in Toronto on Friday 12 October "Security & Freedom in a Connected World"
by Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Oct. 4, 2012

Oct. 4, 2012

Dear All, I have just received this invitation. Having attended previous conferences organised by the NCUC, I can thoroughly recommend that you go, if you have the ability to arrive in time for Friday 12 October. I have registered and will pass by the conference. All details below. Kind regards, Olivier -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Invitation to At-Large / ALAC members to attend NCUC's policy conference in Toronto on Friday 12 October "Security & Freedom in a Connected World" Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 14:58:43 -0700 From: Robin Gross <robin(a)ipjustice.org> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com> CC: Brenden Kuerbis <bnkuerbi(a)syr.edu> Dear Olivier: I am writing to invite you and your At-Large / ALAC members to attend NCUC's policy conference in Toronto on Friday 12 October at the Fairmont Royal York Hotel. "ICANN & Internet Governance: Security & Freedom in a Connected World" <http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45> < http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45 > NCUC hopes the conference sessions will be of some interest to your members and welcomes the attendance and participation of your members at the conference next Friday. Please see the event announcement below, which I invite you to share with your members, and let me know if you have any questions about this event. Thank you very much. Best, Robin ### *Top Civil Society Leaders Converge in Toronto for /"ICANN & Internet Governance: Security and Freedom in a Connected World"/* *Cyber-Security Expert Ron Deibert and new ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade Address Non-Commercial Users Policy Conference on Eve of ICANN #45* - Public interest groups involved in ICANN will gather for the event, "ICANN & Internet Governance: Security & Freedom in a Connected World" <http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45> on Friday 12 October at the Fairmont Royal York Hotel in Toronto, Canada. Sponsored by the Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC), the voice of civil society in ICANN, the policy conference will focus on key ICANN policy issues like the need to promote both cyber-security and human rights in the development of global Internet policies. The event kicks-off with a morning address from cyber-security expert Ron Deibert, Director of the Canada Centre for Global Security Studies and The Citizen Lab, an inter-disciplinary research and development hothouse at the University of Toronto. Deibert will address the need to establish a cyber-security strategy for global civil society. "Cyberspace is at a watershed moment. Global civil society, now increasingly recognised as an important stakeholder in cyberspace governance, needs to step up to the challenge," said Deibert. "What is required is nothing less than a serious and comprehensive security strategy for cyberspace that addresses the very real threats that plague governments and corporations, addresses national and other security concerns in a forthright manner, while protecting and preserving open networks of information and communication." The afternoon sessions begin with welcoming remarks from Fadi Chehade, ICANN's new Chief Executive Officer, a Lebanese-Egyptian IT entrepreneur, who took the helm of ICANN last month and pronounced he was committed to strengthening the multi-stakeholder process of Internet governance. Additional speakers at NCUC's policy conference include Fiona Alexander from the U.S. Commerce Department and other governmental representatives. The all-day event's four panel sessions include participation from ICANN board members and senior staff, civil society and Internet business leaders. The conference will explore a broad range of ICANN policy issues including privacy concerns related to the whois policy that requires the publication of registrants' personal data and discussion of ongoing negotiations with law enforcement agencies regarding a related policy that privacy authorities have called "unlawful". The geopolitical landscape of Internet governance models and the shifting role of stakeholders will be addressed by experts from around the world. NCUC's conference will also explore policy issues related to controversial new domain names such as protection for freedom of expression in the face of cultural differences and sensitivities. Concerns about intellectual property rights and new top-level domain names remains an area under rapid development and will be ripe for discussion as well as activities related to extra-territorial domain name seizures. Including human rights principles in ICANN policy development will be considered, in addition to ways civil society can become involved in the development of ICANN policies, which impact Internet users worldwide. NCUC represents more than 250 noncommercial organizations and individuals from around the world on ICANN policy matters and was formed in 1999 in Berlin at one of ICANN's earliest meetings. Currently NCUC represents a wide range of non-commercial interests in ICANN policy development including universities and educational institutions, human rights organizations, development, promotion of the arts, children's welfare, scientific research, community networking, and many other non-commercial interests. NCUC participates at ICANN as a constituency within the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), which makes ICANN policy recommendations and selects board members. "The conference subtitle recognizes our shared twin goals of security and freedom, and questions to what extent must we sacrifice one for the other," said meeting organizer Robin Gross of NCUC and IP Justice, a civil liberties organization based in San Francisco. The constituency's 2012 Toronto conference builds on the policy conference NCUC held in 2011 in which craigslist.org founder Craig Newmark addressed the ICANN community in San Francisco. The 2012 conference concludes with an evening reception at the historic Fairmont Royal York overlooking the beautiful Canadian waterfront. The event is free to attend and open the public, but advance registration is required because space is limited. NCUC's conference is held with support from the Brazilian Internet Steering Registry CGI.br, the Public Interest Registry (PIR), and ICANN. Civil Society event partners include The Citizen Lab, the Association for Progressive Communications (APC) and the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) based at the University of Ottawa. Conference sessions will be audiocast live and archived for later downloading, and remote participation will be available from the event's website via Adobe Connect for those not able to travel to Toronto on 12 October. For event details including conference schedule, speaker list, remote participation details, and to register to the event: _http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45_ Contact for more information: Robin Gross, IP Justice Email: _Robin(a)ipjustice.org_ <mailto:Robin@ipjustice.org> Brenden Kuerbis, Internet Governance Project & University of Syracuse Email: _bnkuerbi(a)syr.edu_ <mailto:bnkuerbi@syr.edu> NCUC website: _http://www.ncuc.org_ <http://www.ncuc.org/> ### IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin(a)ipjustice.org <mailto:robin@ipjustice.org>

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Fwd: FW: ICANN News Alert -- Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Oct. 4, 2012

Oct. 4, 2012

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Peck <brian.peck(a)icann.org> Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM Subject: FW: ICANN News Alert -- Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations To: "salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com" < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> Cc: Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth(a)icann.org> Dear Ms. Tamanikaiwaimaro, I’ve been asked to respond to your recent emails with regard to the GNSO IOC/RC Drafting Team recommendations and the Final Issue Report on the Protection of International Organization Names – thank you very much for your interest and inquiry. The Final GNSO Issue Report on the Protection of International Organization Names in New gTLDs was published on 1 October and can be found at: * http://gnso.icann.org/en/node/34529* We are in the process of uploading and providing the link to this report on the public comment box webpage for the GNSO IOC/RC Drafting Team recommendations. With regard to your submission on this matter submitted to the ALAC GNSO Liaison, in order to ensure that your comments become part of the record for the public comment forum on this issue/matter, we would like to request that you please submit your comments/submission directly to the forum at: ioc-rcrc-recommendations(a)icann.org We hope this responds to the matters and inquiry you raised, thanks again for your participation and interest. Sincerely, Brian Peck Policy Director ICANN On 9/28/12 8:42 PM, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear Staff, I should also add that I had made submissions prior to GNSO IOC RC Drafting Team meeting and sent it to out ALAC GNSO Liaison to send to the Drafting Team which I had attached. Please consider it as part of my contributions to the Public comments on this matter. Kind Regards, Sala On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear Staff, Aside from the Preliminary Issue Report, is the Final Issue Report out yet? It would be useful to have the link for the Final Issue Report up in the public comment space. Kind Regards, Sala ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *ICANN News Alert* <communications(a)icann.org> Date: Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:00 PM Subject: ICANN News Alert -- Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations To: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com <http://www.icann.org/> *News Alert *http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-28sep12-en.htm ------------------------------ *Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations *28 September 2012 *Forum Announcement:*Comment Period Opens on*Date:*28 September 2012 *Categories/Tags: * - Top-Level Domains - Second-Level Domains - Policy Process - Intellectual Property *Purpose (Brief):*The IOC/RCRC Drafting Team (DT) requests community comment on the latest recommendations created for second level protections of names relating to the International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. *Public Comment Box Link:* http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep1… This message was sent to salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com from: ICANN | 12025 Waterfront Drive Suite 300 | Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 Email Marketing by <http://www.icontact.com/a.pl/144186> *Manage Your Subscription < http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=24020961&l=6333&s=O5MD&m=89…> * -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 <tel:%2B679%20998%202851> -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 ------ End of Forwarded Message -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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NCUC Policy Conference 12 Oct in Toronto
by William Drake Oct. 4, 2012

Oct. 4, 2012

Hi Everyone in Toronto on Friday 12th is most welcome to attend (the program as well as the cocktails;-) so feel free to share. Registration and program at http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45 Best, Bill ----------- NCUC Press Release - 3 October 2012 Civil Society Leaders Converge in Toronto for "ICANN & Internet Governance: Security and Freedom in a Connected World" Cyber-Security Expert Ron Deibert and new ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade Address Non-Commercial Users Policy Conference on Eve of ICANN #45 Public interest groups involved in ICANN will gather for the event, "ICANN & Internet Governance: Security & Freedom in a Connected World" on Friday 12 October at the Fairmont Royal York Hotel in Toronto, Canada. Sponsored by the Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC), the voice of civil society in ICANN, the policy conference will focus on key ICANN policy issues like the need to promote both cyber-security and human rights in the development of global Internet policies. The event kicks-off with a morning address from cyber-security expert Ron Deibert, Director of the Canada Centre for Global Security Studies and The Citizen Lab, an inter-disciplinary research and development hothouse at the University of Toronto. Deibert will address the need to establish a cyber-security strategy for global civil society. "Cyberspace is at a watershed moment. Global civil society, now increasingly recognised as an important stakeholder in cyberspace governance, needs to step up to the challenge," said Deibert. "What is required is nothing less than a serious and comprehensive security strategy for cyberspace that addresses the very real threats that plague governments and corporations, addresses national and other security concerns in a forthright manner, while protecting and preserving open networks of information and communication." The afternoon sessions begin with welcoming remarks from Fadi Chehade, ICANN's new Chief Executive Officer, a Lebanese-Egyptian IT entrepreneur, who took the helm of ICANN last month and pronounced he was committed to strengthening the multi-stakeholder process of Internet governance. Additional speakers at NCUC's policy conference include Fionna Alexander from the U.S. Commerce Department and other governmental representatives. The all-day event's four panel sessions include participation from ICANN board members and senior staff, civil society and Internet business leaders. The conference will explore a broad range of ICANN policy issues including privacy concerns related to the whois policy that requires the publication of registrants' personal data and discussion of ongoing negotiations with law enforcement agencies regarding a related policy that privacy authorities have called "unlawful". The geopolitical landscape of Internet governance models and the shifting role of stakeholders will be addressed by experts from around the world. NCUC's conference will also explore policy issues related to controversial new domain names such as protection for freedom of expression in the face of cultural differences and sensitivities. Concerns about intellectual property rights and new top-level domain names remains an area under rapid development and will be ripe for discussion as well as activities related to extra-territorial domain name seizures. Including human rights principles in ICANN policy development will be considered, in addition to ways civil society can become involved in the development of ICANN policies, which impact Internet users worldwide. NCUC represents more than 250 noncommercial organizations and individuals from around the world on ICANN policy matters and was formed in 1999 in Berlin at one of ICANN's earliest meetings. Currently NCUC represents a wide range of non-commercial interests in ICANN policy development including universities and educational institutions, human rights organizations, development, promotion of the arts, children's welfare, scientific research, community networking, and many other non-commercial interests. NCUC participates at ICANN as a constituency within the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), which makes ICANN policy recommendations and selects board members. "The conference subtitle recognizes our shared twin goals of security and freedom, and questions to what extent must we sacrifice one for the other," said meeting organizer Robin Gross of NCUC and IP Justice, a civil liberties organization based in San Francisco. The constituency's 2012 Toronto conference builds on the policy conference NCUC held in 2011 in which craigslist.org founder Craig Newmark addressed the ICANN community in San Francisco. The 2012 conference concludes with an evening reception at the historic Fairmont Royal York overlooking the beautiful Canadian waterfront. The event is free to attend and open the public, but advance registration is required because space is limited. NCUC's conference is held with support from the Brazilian Internet Steering Registry CGI.br, the Public Interest Registry (PIR), and ICANN. Civil Society event partners include The Citizen Lab, the Association for Progressive Communications (APC) and the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) based at the University of Ottawa. Conference sessions will be audiocast live and archived for later downloading, and remote participation will be available from the event's website via Adobe Connect for those not able to travel to Toronto on 12 October. For event details including conference schedule, speaker list, remote participation details, and to register to the event: http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45 Contact for more information: Robin Gross, IP Justice Email: Robin(a)ipjustice.org Brenden Keurbis, Internet Governance Project & University of Syracuse Email: bnkuerbi(a)syr.edu *************************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake(a)uzh.ch www.williamdrake.org ****************************************************

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Fwd: [At-Large] Alternate Model Trademark Clearinghouse Call on October 9th, 9 am Eastern US Time
by Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Oct. 3, 2012

Oct. 3, 2012

FYI -- thanking Jeff for forwarding this to us. You are encouraged to attend this call. Warmest regards, Olivier -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [At-Large] Alternate Model Trademark Clearinghouse Call on October 9th, 9 am Eastern US Time Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:40:47 -0400 From: Neuman, Jeff <Jeff.Neuman(a)neustar.us> Reply-To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> CC: wshorter(a)verisign.com <wshorter(a)verisign.com>, Jeff Eckhaus (eckhaus(a)demandmedia.com) <eckhaus(a)demandmedia.com>, Chris Wright <chris(a)ausregistry.com.au> All, As most of you are aware, ICANN posted its proposed implementation model of the TMCH earlier this year, with the most recent drafts posted on September 24, 2012 (http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-7-24sep12-en.htm) For a number of months, several registries and registrars have been working on an alternate mechanism for implementing the Trademark Clearinghouse at least with respect to how the Clearinghouse interacts with the gTLD Registries and Registrars. A paper discussing the issues presented by the proposed ICANN implementation model along with our proposed alternate Sunrise and Trademark Claims models has now been posted by ICANN at: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/sunrise-model-26… http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/claims-model-26s… http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/model-issues-26s… ICANN has graciously volunteered its resources to host a call on October 9th at 9am Eastern US time for the authors of the alternate models to discuss our models and rationale. We wanted to make sure that you all were aware of the call as well. This call will be good preparation for the meeting in a couple of weeks in Toronto. I hope that ICANN will send out a more formal announcement about the call. But just in case they do not, here is the call-in information that ICANN has given me. Conference ID: 93759 Dial-in numbers for each country: http://www.adigo.com/icann/ Adobe Connect Room at: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/tmch/ If you have any questions, please let us know. I have included the other authors on this email chain as well. Best regards, Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs 46000 Center Oak Plaza, Sterling, VA 20166 Office: +1.571.434.5772 Mobile: +1.202.549.5079 Fax: +1.703.738.7965 / jeff.neuman(a)neustar.biz<mailto:jeff.neuman@neustar.biz> / www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/> _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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Board solicitation of input on how it should receive input and advice
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 3, 2012

Oct. 3, 2012

I call your attention to a recently opened Public Comment in which the ICANN Board solicits input on how it should receive input and advice in making its decisions. I have been asked by Olivier to lead the development of an ALAC contribution, supported by Cheryl. The public comment description can be found at http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/input-advice-function-24sep12-e…. Input should preferably be made to the At-Large Wiki at https://community.icann.org/x/K5AoAg. If anyone cannot cannot access the Wiki to submit comments, please submit your comments to this list WITH AN EXPLICIT REQUEST TO POST TO THE WIKI at the start of the message. The comment period ends shortly after the ICANN meeting. I normally have abundant time to work on such statement en route to ICANN meetings, but in this case my flight time is under an hour, so my work-methods must change. PLEASE your thoughts by the end of the day (wherever you are) next Tuesday, October 9th. Hopefully draft will be prepared for discussion and then decision during the ICANN week. Alan

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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 3, 2012

Oct. 3, 2012

See my comments below. Alan At 02/10/2012 06:17 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: >The usual (that which was already discussed), the IOC-RC only make >the recommendations, in this case staff did the summing up and >drafting I suppose. > >Remphasise the following:- > > * Endorsing the PDP; > * Splitting the PDP; My understanding from Evan's question was whether we have any influence in the Council deciding whether to initiate a PDP or not, and if so, which of the parenthetical options in the draft motion to opt for. Although a letter is fine if the ALAC wishes, I do not believe that there is any substantive benefit from doing so. The ALAC is already on record as supporting a PDP. Moreover, although I have been surprised in the past, I cannot see the GNSO not initiating a PDP as a result of this Issue Report. It is rare (perhaps never) that the GNSO has not initiated a PDP when the staff recommendation is to do so. Moreover, the threshold is quite low and it would take close to a supermajority of the Council to reject a PDP. Regarding "Splitting the PDP" could you please be more specific on what part(s) you want split out and why? Regardless, I find it hard to imagine that the Council would initiate two parallel PDPs on related subjects. >If there is consensus to add other things, then so be it. Bottom >line, the Board will most likely adopt GNSO Council recommendations >as has been the case in the past, and I have not read through all >the Board resolutions(yet, this is my caveat) to know whether they >have disregarded GNSO Council recommendations on related matters. > From what I have read, they appear to have adopted virtually all of >GNSO Council recommendations. For the Board to reject a PDP outcome that has been approved by a supermajority of the GNSO Council (typical in that once the recommendations make their way through the diffcult WG process, they are not likely to be vetoed by Council, even if one SG is totally against the outcomes), it takes a supermajority of the Board to reject it. Certainly possible if the Board as a whole feels that the outcome would be bad for ICANN, but I do not believe that it has ever happened. >Kind Regards, >Sala > >On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Before we decide on the mechanism, perhaps we should decide on WHAT >it is we want to say. > >Alan > > >At 02/10/2012 04:57 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > >> > >>Hi Alan, >>Do we (you) have any ability to influence a council decision like this? Do >>you have any sense of the prevailing winds? >>- Evan >> >>Thanks Alan. @ Evan I would suggest that the ALAC consider writing >>a letter to the GNSO Council. The GAC has on more than one instance >>been known to have written to the GNSO Council on this matter and >>their voices have even been heard. >> >>Kind Regards, >>Sala

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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

I can speak. No guarantee anyone takes my sage advice to heart. Occasionally they do. If it is something that is deemed to be of importance, then we should be doing prior one-on-one talking to get support and gauge what other opinions are. Draft motion just came out and I have no sense of others' thoughts on it. Alan At 02/10/2012 03:59 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >On 2 October 2012 14:40, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Yes. The motion was drafted by staff and at this time, it is unclear >exactly what direction the GNSO plans to take, so they have >reasonably given a number of options. >How the GNSO will decide has not had any discussion that I have been privy to. >Opinions welcome. > > >Hi Alan, > >Do we (you) have any ability to influence a council decision like >this? Do you have any sense of the prevailing winds? > >- Evan > > > >At 02/10/2012 01:06 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote: > >Hi Alan: > >Thanks for the update. > > > >When you say 'several variations' to the draft motion, presumably > >this refers the bracketed portions in the text, yes? > > > >And does this mean these will be taken individually for consideration? > > > >Best, > >- Carlton > > > >============================== > >Carlton A Samuels > >Mobile: <tel:876-818-1799>876-818-1799 > >Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > >============================= > > > > > >On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Alan Greenberg > ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca><mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: > >Attached is a slightly updated version of the Final Issue Report on > >the protection of names of international organizations as well as a > >draft motion (with several variations) for the consideration fo the GNSO. > > > >Alan > > > >From: Margie Milam <<mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org>Margie.Milam(a)icann.org> > >To: "<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org" > ><<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org> > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:36:30 -0700 > >Subject: [council] Draft Motion and Updated Final Issue Report on > >the Protection of > > the Names of International Organizations in New GTLDs > > > >Dear All, > > > >Please find attached for the GNSO Council's review and > >consideration, a draft motion to initiate a PDP on the Protection of > >the Names of International Organizations. > > > >Also attached is an updated Final Issue Report. The only changes > >relate to cleaning up the use of certain definitions (using INGOs of NGOs). > > > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. > > > >Best regards, > > > >_________ > > > >Margie Milam > >Senior Policy Counselor > >ICANN > >_________ > > > > > >From: Margie Milam > >Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:53 AM > >To: <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>council(a)gnso.icann.org > >Subject: Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names of > >International Organizations in New GTLDs > > > >Dear All, > > > >We are pleased to submit to the GNSO Council for its review and > >consideration, the Final Issue Report on the Protection of the Names > >of International Organizations in New gTLDs. This Final Issue > >Report follows the closing of the public comment forum on the > >Preliminary Issue Report. > > > >We look forward to supporting the GNSO Council's activities at the > >Toronto Meeting with respect to this important issue. > > > >All the Best, > > > >Margie Milam > > > >_________ > > > >Margie Milam > >Senior Policy Counselor > >ICANN > >_________ > >Content-Type: application/msword; name="Motion on the Initiation > of a PDP on" > > Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc" > >Content-Description: Motion on the Initiation of a PDP on Protection of > > Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc > >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Motion on the > Initiation of a PDP" > > on Protection of Names of IGOs and INGOs in New gTLDs.doc"; size=31232; > > creation-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:40:51 GMT"; > > modification-date="Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:33:26 GMT" > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ALAC mailing list > ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.ica > nn.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > >At-Large Online: > <<http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > >ALAC Working Wiki: > ><<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Com > mittee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list ><mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: ><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > >-- >Evan Leibovitch >Toronto Canada >Em: evan at telly dot org >Sk: evanleibovitch >Tw: el56

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