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JJS arrived,
by JJS Oct. 14, 2012

Oct. 14, 2012

*Westin Harbour Castle hotel, room/house 'phone 1820.* *Looking forward to seeing you,* *Jean-Jacques.*

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Motions for next weeks open GNSO Council Meeting
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 14, 2012

Oct. 14, 2012

There are currently siz motions on the GNSO Council agenda for next week. The full text of the motions can be found at <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+17+October+…>https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+17+October+…. ANy advice on comments to be made on behalf of the ALAC would be welcome. 1. Motion on the Adoption of the Advice Letter of the Working Group on Consumer Trust, Consumer Choice, and Competition (CTCCC): 2. Motion on the Initiation of a Policy Development Process on Uniformity of Contracts to Address Registration Abuse 3. Motion to Request an Issue Report on the Uniformity of Reporting 4. Motion on the Initiation of a Policy Development Process on the Protection of Certain International Organization Names in all GTLDs. 5. Motion to approve the Charter for the 'thick' Whois PDP Working Group 6. GNSO Council Motion to Initiate Issues Report on Recommendation 2 of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group (IRD-WG) Final Report

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Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal
by Tijani BEN JEMAA Oct. 14, 2012

Oct. 14, 2012

The political and real benefit to the Internet community of holding a meeting in a country is short-lived and rarely spills over into neighbouring countries to any great extent. Alan, do you mean that it's useless to have meetings in those country???? I disagree with this approach, and still think that the principle of rotating the meetings over the 5 regions as much as possible is a priority. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 Mobile: +216 41 649 605 Fax: +216 70 825 231 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 Mobile: +216 41 649 605 Fax: +216 70 825 231 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: ICANN News Alert -- Expired Registration Recovery Policy
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 14, 2012

Oct. 14, 2012

Almost 4 years to the day that the ALAC approved the request for an Issue Report on the recovery of gTLD names after expiration (for the historians among you, it was 14 October, 2008), and nearly a year since the Board approved the PDP Recommendations, we are getting close to implementation. The wheels of ICANN move slowly indeed. But something good has come out of it. They came up with a neat acronym - ERRP, to match the last related PDP - EDDP. Alan > >News Alert > > > ><http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11oct12-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11oct12-en.htm > >---------- > > >Expired Registration Recovery Policy > > > >11 October 2012 > > >Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 11 October 2012 >Categories/Tags: Top Level Domains, Policy Processes, Contracted >Party Agreements >Purpose (Brief): ICANN is opening a Public Comment Period for the >draft Expired Registration Recovery Policy. Members of the Internet >Community are asked to provide feedback on the proposed document. >The proposed Policy is based on recommendations from the Generic >Names Supporting Organization Council related to Post-Expiration >Domain Name Recovery ("PEDNR"). >Public Comment Box Link: ><http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/draft-errp-policy-11oct12-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/draft-errp-policy-11oct12-en.htm >

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Toronto Schedule / Monday 15 October 2012
by At-Large Staff Oct. 14, 2012

Oct. 14, 2012

Dear All, Please find hereafter the At-Large schedule for tomorrow, Monday 15 October 2012 with all remote participation details listed on the ICANN Schedule: Wiki Agenda page: http://tinyurl.com/9aexagq ICANN Schedule: http://toronto45.icann.org/full-schedule Meeting Room Map: http://toronto45.icann.org/files/meetings/toronto2012/45-Toronto-VenueMap-3O ct12.png * 07:00 - 08:00 NARALO Capacity Building Session 1 Regatta Room http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34175 * 08:00 - 08:30 Joint NARALO / Fellows Meeting 1 Frontenac http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34173 * 08:30 10:30 WELCOME CEREMONY & President's Opening Session Metro Centre http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34177 * 11:00 12:30 WHOIS Working Group Room Regatta http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34191 * 14:00 15:00: At-Large New gTLD Working Group Meeting Room Regatta http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34199 * 15:30 16:45: At-Large Future Challenges Working Group Public Workshop Room Regatta http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34223 * 17:15 18:30: ALAC Rules of Procedure Review Working Group (ROP WG) Workshop Room Regatta http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34265 * 19:00 20:30: NARALO Outreach Event: An Evening with At-Large: Honoring the RALOs Room Regatta http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34281 General Meetings: Please look at the full Schedule: http://toronto45.icann.org/node/3428 * 07:00 08:30: DNS Women Breakfast Marine Room http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34171 * 15:00 - 16:30: Presentation of the Initial Plan of the Africa Strategy by Tarek Kamel Metro Centre http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34219 * 15:00 - 16:30: Update on the RAA Negotiations Metro East http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34197 * 16:00 - 17:00: Joint ccNSO / GNSO IDN Working Group (JIG) Pier 2&3 http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34231 Thank you. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [ALAC] [ALAC-Internal] Proposed amendment to the Proposed Thick Whois PDP Charter.
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Oct. 13, 2012

Oct. 13, 2012

Dear Alan, Noting that the Mission and Scope of the Charter says, "The PDP Working Group is tasked to provide the GNSO Council with a policy recommendation regarding the use of ‘thick’ Whois by all gTLD Registries, both existing and future....." aside from the issues raised within the Mission and Scope which in fact have already identified some of the considerations such as privacy and data protection across borders. I can see where Avri is coming from in raising the Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Association as an attempt to ensure that all bases are covered and at the same time, I see where you are coming from in terms of delaying the process. The mere use of "existing and future" describes that there is a need to factor in key considerations that would impact on the use. It makes perfect sense therefore, that prior to the Thick Whois Charter PDP, that the recommendations made by the SSAC on the Whois matter be adopted. Otherwise, ICANN could be faced with multiple lawsuits. This matter is fundamental in my view to the security and stability of ICANN based on foreseeable risks on the horizon. To mitigate these risks, it would seem that the prudent thing to do would be to agree first on the use of the data have that be accepted by the global community before proceeding with a solution. What ICANN is beginning to discover is that whilst consensus may be achieved within its community, there are those that allege see, http://domainincite.com/docs/Name.Space%20Complaint%2010.1012.pdf that ICANN behaves in a certain fashion. In light of clear rationale provided by the SSAC on their view of the Whois Final Review, this could also be used against ICANN if aggrieved parties wish to follow the path of what is just beginning. Fundamental to protecting ICANN and the interests of the end users is to ensure that threats against the stability of . the organisation is preserved. The reality, is that ICANN's Financial well is not bottomless, there is a limit that it can take before it is vulnerable and has to be shut down or bailed out. It follows that the advice that the ALAC gives has to take into consideration managing these risks. We have to see both the micro and macro impact and the SSAC has recommended. Kind Regards, Sala On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim < rinalia.abdulrahim(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Agree with Alan++. > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca > >wrote: > > > If anyone else either agrees with Evan/Holly that we should object to > > it, or believes that we should support the change, please speak up. I > > will delay responding to the DT until I have a better sampling of > replies. > > > > Alan > > > > At 13/10/2012 02:21 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > > >I fully agree with Alan's stance on this. > > > > > >As Holly said, it adds nothing and is only an invitation to sidetrack > the > > >necessary debate. > > > > > >- Evan > > > > > >On 13 October 2012 13:34, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> > > wrote: > > > > > > > The proposed charter for the Think Whois PDP was tentatively > > > > finalized on a meeting last week, but has now been re-opened > > > > following a discussion between Avri and Mikey. The proposed change is > > > > below, essentially adding "Freedom of Expression and Freedom of > > > > Association" to the issues to be reviewed during a PDP. > > > > > > > > My personal position is that although "other rights" still need to be > > > > addressed by any PDP under the new PDP rules, including these two in > > > > the Charter is adding one more distraction to the core issue and will > > > > only serve to elongate the process. > > > > > > > > It would be useful to be able to make a statement on behalf of the > > > > ALAC, even if it only an informal pole and not a formal ALAC > position. > > > > > > > > The current proposed charter can be found at: > > > > http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/thick-whois-charter-08oct12-en.pdf > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > >Current language: > > > > > > > > > >Impact on privacy and data protection: how would 'thick' Whois > > > > >affect privacy and data protection, also taking into account the > > > > >involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and > > > > >legislation with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross > > > > >border transfers of registrant data? > > > > > > > > > >Proposed language: > > > > > > > > > >Impact on rights: how would 'thick' Whois affect rights such as > > > > >Privacy, Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Association as well as > > > > >adherence to data protection regulations, taking into account the > > > > >involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and > > > > >legislation with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross > > > > >border transfers of registrant data? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ALAC-Internal mailing list > > > > ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal > > > > > > > > ALAC Wiki: > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > > > > At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Evan Leibovitch > > >Toronto Canada > > > > > >Em: evan at telly dot org > > >Sk: evanleibovitch > > >Tw: el56 > > >_______________________________________________ > > >ALAC-Internal mailing list > > >ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal > > > > > >ALAC Wiki: > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > >At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC-Internal mailing list > > ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal > > > > ALAC Wiki: > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC-Internal mailing list > ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal > > ALAC Wiki: > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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Re: [ALAC] SAC056 Posted: SSAC Advisory on the Impacts of Content Blocking via the Domain Name System
by Julie Hammer Oct. 12, 2012

Oct. 12, 2012

No problem at all, Sala. It is on the SSAC Documents Page: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents Kind regards, Julie On 13/10/2012, at 8:14 AM, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Julie, Could you please send us the URL? Kind Regards, Sala On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Julie Hammer <julie.hammer(a)bigpond.com> wrote: Dear ALAC members, This is to advise that the following SSAC Advisory has been posted: [SAC056]: SSAC Advisory on Impacts of Content Blocking via the Domain Name System (09 October 2012) English [PDF] Kind regards, Julie _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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SAC056 Posted: SSAC Advisory on the Impacts of Content Blocking via the Domain Name System
by Julie Hammer Oct. 12, 2012

Oct. 12, 2012

Dear ALAC members, This is to advise that the following SSAC Advisory has been posted: [SAC056]: SSAC Advisory on Impacts of Content Blocking via the Domain Name System (09 October 2012) English [PDF] Kind regards, Julie

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Re: [ALAC] Board request for Community Input and Advice
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 12, 2012

Oct. 12, 2012

At 11/10/2012 05:46 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >On 11 October 2012 16:17, Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >The deadline for submitting a comment is 25 Oct. If there is little >interest in the ALAC for submitting such a comment, I am happy to do >it under my own name as well as anyone else who supports it. But if >there is agreement with the issues raised, it certainly would have >more impact coming from the ALAC. >I am speaking at a public panel on this subject on Monday. At this >point, it is solely on my own behalf, but I welcome input from >others on the ALAC as to what should be said. > > >I don't think that the response you received was insubstantial. > >It is reasonable -- especially for ALAC -- to respond to a request >by advising that its question is wrong or inappropriate. > >The problem is not with the methods by which the community sends >comments to the Board, but rather how (and how transparently) the >Board accepts and deals with that input. > >- Evan They were particularly asking about melded input from multiple groups, and the evidence is that the methodology for that (to the limited extent that it exists) is broken. If only because the positions taken are, at times, close to polar opposites. And even from a single group, the onus is on that group to condense the input to the extent that it is often written in code - code that is perhaps not understood by many of the recipients. I guess that could be referred to as how they deal with it, but I think there is a philosophical question that is much more important. Are we supposed to be on the same team as the Board, or not. Regarding whether it is reasonable for the ALAC to comment. If I didn't think so, I would not have spent several hours composing it on my last day before travel! ;-) Alan

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Possible ALAC Statement and Call for Comments re Verisign's Patent Application on Domain Name Transfers
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Oct. 11, 2012

Oct. 11, 2012

Dear ALAC, What are your thoughts about discussion on the subject and a possible ALAC Statement on the matter? Kind Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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