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Registrant charter of rights and RAA drafting team
by Alan Greenberg Sept. 4, 2009

Sept. 4, 2009

The GNSO today approved the charter for the drafting team to be charged with: a) creating a registrants rights document; b) identifying topics to be considered in the next round of RAA amendments; c) proposing the next steps for address b). There will be two sub-groups, one for a, and one for b+c. It is expected that there will be significant overlap and certainly communications between the two. I don't have the exact wording of the motion and charter (there were some minor changes at the end), but will forward once I have it (probably tomorrow). For those who have not been following the process, there was ALAC/At-Large in the debate over how to structure the drafting team(s) and in the wording of the charter. Alan

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Re: [ALAC] RESULTADO: Voto del LACRALO sobre el delegado al NomCom
by jsalgueiro＠cantv.net Sept. 4, 2009

Sept. 4, 2009

Muy agradecido a aquellos que votaron por mi. Espero depresentarlos dignamente, Jose Ovidio Salgueiro Original Message: ----------------- From: Andres Piazza investigaciones(a)densi.com.ar Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:20:51 -0300 To: alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, alac-internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [ALAC] RESULTADO: Voto del LACRALO sobre el delegado al NomCom Dear Members of ALAC and At Large Community, I am pleased to inform you that LACRALO has developed an election process in order to provide to ALAC, and specifically to its Latin American and Caribbean Representatives, a Statement of Preference regarding the nominated candidates to a Nominating Committee position. The result of the election, in which 20 ALS from LACRALO participated, indicated its preference for José Ovidio Salgueiro from Venezuela. As LACRALO Chair President I certify the Regional Statement of Preference, and congratulate José Ovidio for the result. Warm Regards Andrés Piazza LACRALO Chair ------ Forwarded Message From: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:21:08 -0700 To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] RESULTADO: Voto del LACRALO sobre el delegado al NomCom Estimados, Con 20 votos registrados de un total de 31 votantes aptos, podemos confirmar que tuvimos el quórum en el reciente voto sobre el delegado al NomCom de preferencia de Latinoamérica y el Caribe. ****************** Delegado regional al NomCom ¿Quién debería recomendar LACRALO al ALAC para nombrar como representante de la región de Latinoamérica y el Caribe en el NomCom, para un mandato que empieza al final de la reunión anual general 2009 y termina al final de la reunión anual general 2010? Al final del voto: Miércoles, 2 de Septiembre 2009 23:59 UTC Número de votantes: 20 · Total de votantes aptos: 31 · Participación: 64.52 Cintra Sooknanan: 4 (20.00 %) José Ovidio Salgueiro: 11 (55.00 %) Abstenerse: 5 (25.00%) ********************* Siga el siguiente enlace para verificar el resultado de manera independiente: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=CgaJbQRxz7gTAmSTcbXq ******************** Votantes aptos que participaron en el voto (20/31): Aislan Vargas Basilio Sergio Walter Salinas Porto Alberto Soto Sebastian Bellagamba Raul Bauer Omar Kaminski Humberto Carrasco José Luis Barzallo Lance Hinds Dev Anand Teelucksingh Horacio Martin Fernandez Delpech Antonio Medina Gomez Roosvelt O. King Andrés Piazza Javier Eduardo Chandía Rojas Cristian Casas Erik Huesca Leopold Brandt Graterol Carlton Samuels Sylvia Herlein Leite ************************** Votantes aptos que no participaron en el voto (11/31): James Corbin Steven A. Williams Wladimir Davalos Carlton Stewart Maria de la Paz Silva Contreras Johnny Laureano Danny Jaggernauth Sergio Bronstein Carlos Vera Erick Iriarte Ahon Melody Palmer -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff at atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists .icann.org http://www.lacralo.org ------ End of Forwarded Message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2343 - Release Date: 09/03/09 05:50:00 _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE

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Thu Hue not able to attend Seoul Meeting
by At Large Staff Sept. 3, 2009

Sept. 3, 2009

Dear All, Thu Hue has informed ICANN staff that she will not be able to participate in the Seoul Meeting. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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RESULTADO: Voto del LACRALO sobre el delegado al NomCom
by Andres Piazza Sept. 3, 2009

Sept. 3, 2009

Dear Members of ALAC and At Large Community, I am pleased to inform you that LACRALO has developed an election process in order to provide to ALAC, and specifically to its Latin American and Caribbean Representatives, a Statement of Preference regarding the nominated candidates to a Nominating Committee position. The result of the election, in which 20 ALS from LACRALO participated, indicated its preference for José Ovidio Salgueiro from Venezuela. As LACRALO Chair President I certify the Regional Statement of Preference, and congratulate José Ovidio for the result. Warm Regards Andrés Piazza LACRALO Chair ------ Forwarded Message From: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:21:08 -0700 To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] RESULTADO: Voto del LACRALO sobre el delegado al NomCom Estimados, Con 20 votos registrados de un total de 31 votantes aptos, podemos confirmar que tuvimos el quórum en el reciente voto sobre el delegado al NomCom de preferencia de Latinoamérica y el Caribe. ****************** Delegado regional al NomCom ¿Quién debería recomendar LACRALO al ALAC para nombrar como representante de la región de Latinoamérica y el Caribe en el NomCom, para un mandato que empieza al final de la reunión anual general 2009 y termina al final de la reunión anual general 2010? Al final del voto: Miércoles, 2 de Septiembre 2009 23:59 UTC Número de votantes: 20 · Total de votantes aptos: 31 · Participación: 64.52 Cintra Sooknanan: 4 (20.00 %) José Ovidio Salgueiro: 11 (55.00 %) Abstenerse: 5 (25.00%) ********************* Siga el siguiente enlace para verificar el resultado de manera independiente: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=CgaJbQRxz7gTAmSTcbXq ******************** Votantes aptos que participaron en el voto (20/31): Aislan Vargas Basilio Sergio Walter Salinas Porto Alberto Soto Sebastian Bellagamba Raul Bauer Omar Kaminski Humberto Carrasco José Luis Barzallo Lance Hinds Dev Anand Teelucksingh Horacio Martin Fernandez Delpech Antonio Medina Gomez Roosvelt O. King Andrés Piazza Javier Eduardo Chandía Rojas Cristian Casas Erik Huesca Leopold Brandt Graterol Carlton Samuels Sylvia Herlein Leite ************************** Votantes aptos que no participaron en el voto (11/31): James Corbin Steven A. Williams Wladimir Davalos Carlton Stewart Maria de la Paz Silva Contreras Johnny Laureano Danny Jaggernauth Sergio Bronstein Carlos Vera Erick Iriarte Ahon Melody Palmer -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff at atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists .icann.org http://www.lacralo.org ------ End of Forwarded Message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2343 - Release Date: 09/03/09 05:50:00

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Re: [ALAC] Letter to the Chair of the Board on Status of Liaison Statement on Consumer and Other Constituency Proposals
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Sept. 1, 2009

Sept. 1, 2009

Thank you Peter for your responcee; Indeed the issue is one for the ALAC Agenda *but* was one we felt you and your Boaurd needed to be aware of... ALAC did both welcome and apreciate the Boardd's resolution,regarding the At-Large appointment of a Director,as you no doubt guessed and we appreciated the early notice via Marco... I to look forward to catching up with you in Seoul I assume Christine will set something up for our rapidly filling scheduless soon... This is a short form rreply from my phjone as I'm attending a Diversity on Boards Conference at the moment' so forgive any typo's On 02/09/2009, Peter Dengate Thrush <peter.dengatethrush(a)icann.org> wrote: > Dear Cheryl > I acknowledge receipt of your letter below. > > It did not come to my attention in time to forward it to the Board > before the August meeting, but it now has been, via with this reply. > > In relation to new constituencies, there were Board concerns about > all current proposals, and more work is going on to resolve those. > Denise is able to report progress on this as it occurs. > > In relation to your comments about the current ALAC liaison, they > seem to be matters for ALAC. > > In relation to the ALAC process for making appointments in future, I > welcome processes that are community-driven to meet the needs of > individual communities. If you have any questions concerning > compliance with ICANN bylaws, General Counsel's office is available > to assist. > > You will by now have seen that the Board has voted in favour of the > appointment of a voting director from the At Large community, > effectively replacing the Liaison position. That is an important > principle, not only for the At Large community, but because it is a > pivot point about which many current features in our Structural > Review programme turn. The decision has effects in several other > reviews, which now have additional clarity. > > I look forward to meeting with you in Seoul. > > regards > > Peter Dengate Thrush > Chairman of the Board of Directors, > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > +64 4 4998959 (DDI) > +64 21499888 (mobile) > +64 4 4710672 (fax) > > > > On 27/08/2009, at 2:04 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote: > >> To: Peter Dengate-Thrush >> >> Peter, >> You should by now have received the official notification by the >> Staff of ALAC’s strong support for the proposed GNSO Consumer >> Constituency; the ALAC voted by consensus to endorse the proposal. >> >> In this connection, I have the unhappy duty to inform you that it >> has come to our attention that the ALAC Board Liaison made >> statements in connection with the Board discussion about the >> proposed consumer constituency that were directly contrary to the >> view of the At-Large Community. It appears that she also made >> statements about other constituency proposals, many of which we >> have taken no settled view upon (CityTLD, IDNgTLD). >> >> If she did not make it clear that the ALAC and At-Large strongly >> support the Consumer Constituency proposal, she should have. Any >> adverse comments or questions that she raised were entirely >> personal in nature. >> >> To be frank, ALAC Liaisons to any part of ICANN have no business >> making personal statements without making clear that is all that >> they are; if Wendy failed to do in this case then she was acting >> inappropriately. All ALAC Liaisons are very clearly instructed to >> make it clear when they are making statements on behalf of At- >> Large, and when they are making personal statements. Our Liaisons >> (all of them) also don’t have any business making personal >> statements that they know are directly contrary to the formally >> stated positions of the community that they represent without >> making the conflict-of-interest situation crystal clear. >> >> For the avoidance of doubt, any statement made to the Board by the >> ALAC Board Liaison which is not clearly stated as “on behalf of At- >> Large”, is automatically a personal view only. I encourage you and/ >> or your colleagues on the Board to enquire of me, or the Vice- >> Chairs and Rapporteur of the ALAC if you have any question about >> the nature of any statement made by our liaison. >> >> There is no possibility that Wendy could not have known of the >> support of the At-Large for the Consumer Constituency. At-Large >> has sought to recruit consumer organisations into the community for >> years now, and several internationally known consumer >> representatives and organisations are long-term At-Large Community >> members and leaders. In addition, leaders of the international >> consumer movement in At-Large are parties to the Constituency >> proposal as you know, and others in At-Large are working hard to >> recruit more consumer groups to join the constituency should the >> Board approve it. >> >> On a positive note, in preparation for the appointment of a Board >> Liaison for the upcoming year, At-Large began some months ago >> considerably upgrading the process by which the ALAC Board Liaison >> is chosen, and fleshed-out in considerable detail the obligations >> and requirements for eligibility for this important position. We >> ask for a statement from all candidates that they are able to meet >> the obligations, as part of our nominations process, and we >> recognise that there is nothing (so far) in our planned processes >> where we do anything resembling due diligence or even try to >> evaluate/judge how well the candidates meet the eligibility >> requirements (many of which are subjective in any case); We will >> shortly be apprising you of these via our At-Large Staff. >> >> Based on this experience this may need considerable review in the >> future but with the planned advent of voting At-Large elected Board >> Members I suspect the point becomes somewhat moot, but it is >> something to be considered as we flesh out that electoral process >> in the future. >> >> We believe these measures considerably increase the transparency >> and accountability of those who speak in our community’s name, and >> that unfortunate incidents such as the one that causes me to write >> to you today will be very effectively prevented. Moreover, I think >> you will find that the new processes and requirements are a >> considerable step forward in the development of processes that >> could be used by the At-Large Community to select voting Directors >> in the happy circumstance that the Board decides to approve At- >> Large appointing one or more Directors, as we believe that it should. >> >> Finally, please do forward this note on to the full Board, in >> advance of or at, this month's ICANN Board Meeting and discussions. >> >> >> (Digitally signed in the PDF copy attached to this transmission) >> >> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) >> ALAC Chair 2007-2009 >> 26th August, 2009 >> >> >> <Letter to the Chair of the Board on Status of Liaison Statement on >> Consumer and Other Constituency Proposals.pdf> > > -- Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)

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Re: [ALAC] Welcome to our New ALAC Nom Com appointees!!
by Alan Greenberg Sept. 1, 2009

Sept. 1, 2009

Welcome to James and Dave, and welcome back (in another guise) to Carlton. I look forward to working with you all. Alan At 28/08/2009 09:31 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote: >we have our new NomCom appointees from the Africa, Asia Pacific and Latin >american & Caribbean regions see >http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-28aug09-en.htm a Huge >Welcome aboard to all of you I look forward to working with all of you in >the ALAC and I'm sure I speak for everyone else in the Regional, ALS, and >wider At-Large when I say we look forward to incorporating your expertise, >views and energy into our policy development work and discussions over the >next 2 years... >Staff can we ensure they are joined to our lists and that an Announce >message goes out ASAP > >-- >Cheryl Langdon-Orr >(CLO)

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Re: [ALAC] clarification Re: Letter to the Chair of the Board on Status of Liaison Statement on Consumer and Other Constituency Proposals
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Sept. 1, 2009

Sept. 1, 2009

Adam I am awaiting 1) a response from Denise re specifics I've asked for as Board confidentiality needs to be looked into and 2) to allow Wendy to also respond to me if she so desired I proposed a chat at our mid month ExCom call or at any other convenient time... The ExCom list will have as a matter of record, the letter in reply to Denise's original inquiry regarding this matter with greater details is also archived there... It was a specific choice of mine, supported by the other Elected Officers NOT to sent this material at this stage to a more 'public At-Large list' at this stage and it has Not been discussed at the last meeting the matter was however in my view a time critical one that needed addressing before todays ICANN Board Meeting for a number of reasons... CLO 2009/8/27 Adam Peake <ajp(a)glocom.ac.jp> > Cheryl, Hi, > > Could you give some background to this letter. What, apparently, did Wendy > say and when? How did you hear about it, was there not time to discuss with > Wendy and At Large first before writing to Peter and the board? > > Perhaps the matter was discussed on the last ALAC call, but I was not able > to attend, and I think it would be helpful to inform the community of all > relevant information. > > Wendy, any comment? > > Thanks, > > Adam > > > > To: Peter Dengate-Thrush >> >> Peter, >> >> You should by now have received the official notification by the Staff of >> ALAC¹s strong support for the proposed GNSO Consumer Constituency; the >> ALAC >> voted by consensus to endorse the proposal. >> >> In this connection, I have the unhappy duty to inform you that it has come >> to our attention that the ALAC Board Liaison made statements in connection >> with the Board discussion about the proposed consumer constituency that >> were >> directly contrary to the view of the At-Large Community. It appears that >> she >> also made statements about other constituency proposals, many of which we >> have taken no settled view upon (CityTLD, IDNgTLD). >> >> If she did not make it clear that the ALAC and At-Large strongly support >> the >> Consumer Constituency proposal, she should have. Any adverse comments or >> questions that she raised were entirely personal in nature. >> >> To be frank, ALAC Liaisons to any part of ICANN have no business making >> personal statements without making clear that is all that they are; if >> Wendy >> failed to do in this case then she was acting inappropriately. All ALAC >> Liaisons are very clearly instructed to make it clear when they are making >> statements on behalf of At-Large, and when they are making personal >> statements. Our Liaisons (all of them) also don¹t have any business >> making >> personal statements that they know are directly contrary to the formally >> stated positions of the community that they represent without making the >> conflict-of-interest situation crystal clear. >> >> For the avoidance of doubt, any statement made to the Board by the ALAC >> Board Liaison which is not clearly stated as ³on behalf of At-Large², is >> automatically a personal view only. I encourage you and/or your >> colleagues >> on the Board to enquire of me, or the Vice-Chairs and Rapporteur of the >> ALAC >> if you have any question about the nature of any statement made by our >> liaison. >> >> There is no possibility that Wendy could not have known of the support of >> the At-Large for the Consumer Constituency. At-Large has sought to >> recruit >> consumer organisations into the community for years now, and several >> internationally known consumer representatives and organisations are >> long-term At-Large Community members and leaders. In addition, leaders of >> the international consumer movement in At-Large are parties to the >> Constituency proposal as you know, and others in At-Large are working hard >> to recruit more consumer groups to join the constituency should the Board >> approve it. >> >> On a positive note, in preparation for the appointment of a Board Liaison >> for the upcoming year, At-Large began some months ago considerably >> upgrading >> the process by which the ALAC Board Liaison is chosen, and fleshed-out in >> considerable detail the obligations and requirements for eligibility for >> this important position. We ask for a statement from all candidates that >> they are able to meet the obligations, as part of our nominations process, >> and we recognise that there is nothing (so far) in our planned processes >> where we do anything resembling due diligence or even try to >> evaluate/judge >> how well the candidates meet the eligibility requirements (many of which >> are >> subjective in any case); We will shortly be apprising you of these via our >> At-Large Staff. >> >> Based on this experience this may need considerable review in the future >> but >> with the planned advent of voting At-Large elected Board Members I suspect >> the point becomes somewhat moot, but it is something to be considered as >> we >> flesh out that electoral process in the future. >> >> We believe these measures considerably increase the transparency and >> accountability of those who speak in our community¹s name, and that >> unfortunate incidents such as the one that causes me to write to you today >> will be very effectively prevented. Moreover, I think you will find that >> the new processes and requirements are a considerable step forward in the >> development of processes that could be used by the At-Large Community to >> select voting Directors in the happy circumstance that the Board decides >> to >> approve At-Large appointing one or more Directors, as we believe that it >> should. >> >> Finally, please do forward this note on to the full Board, in advance of >> or >> at, this month's ICANN Board Meeting and discussions. >> >> >> >> (Digitally signed in the PDF copy attached to this transmission) >> >> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) >> >> *ALAC Chair 2007-2009* >> >> *26**th** August, 2009* >> >> Content-Type: application/pdf; >> name="Letter to the Chair of the Board on Status of Liaison >> Statement on Consumer and Other Constituency Proposals.pdf" >> Content-Disposition: attachment; >> filename="Letter to the Chair of the Board on Status of Liaison >> Statement on Consumer and Other Constituency Proposals.pdf" >> X-Attachment-Id: f_fyuuigd30 >> >> Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Letter to the Chair #A3168C.pdf (PDF >> /«IC») (00A3168C) >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >> ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >> > > -- Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)

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Re: [ALAC] [At-Large] BOARD APPROVES 1AT-LARGE VOTINGDIRECTOR
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 31, 2009

Aug. 31, 2009

Thanks Roberto. For those without a sufficiently long history in ICANN, prior to his current NomCom appointment to the ICANN Board starting in 2006, Roberto was an ALAC member and served as the ALAC Liaison to the Board. So he does have a sufficiently long and detailed knowledge of ALAC to make this a true compliment. Alan At 31/08/2009 12:47 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote: >My personal opinion is that time has passed between the Westlake >report and the Board vote, and in between ALAC has produced results. >If I compare the discussions on the Board just to get the agreement >for the Summit, and the discussions these days, there is a huge difference. >Of course, the ALAC Review WG, the Board Review WG, the SIC, etc. >have pointed out the acquired maturity of ALAC, and therefore it has >been possible to successfully argue the case (although we settled on >1 voting director as a compromise between 2 and 0). But the real >factor that has determined this result is simply the fact that ALAC >is delivering: it went a long way since the discussions about >matters of principle in the beginning and the concrete proposals, >that led to policy decisions, that we are witnessing these days. >This process was underway when Westlake was producing its report. >They could not have guessed the results, but now we know. >So, congratulations to all of you in ALAC for years of hard work >that are now bringing results, and with the results the recognition. > >Cheers, >Roberto

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Re: [ALAC] [ccnso-idnpdpwg1] Agenda today's call
by Sivasubramanian Muthusamy Aug. 31, 2009

Aug. 31, 2009

Hello Patrick Falstrom Thank you for your response to this message and for your positive comments which are very encouraging. I feel that this can still be considered for the Seoul schedule. Thank you Sivasubramanian Muthusamy 2009/8/31 Patrik Fältström <patrik(a)frobbit.se>: > > On 31 aug 2009, at 16.59, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote: > >> The suggestion is to have inter-constituency meetings during Seoul where >> ccNSO, GNSO and its commercial and non-commercial constituencies, GAC, ALAC, >> SSAC as also Board Representatives, Staff designated for IDNs, finance and >> administration committees, IETF, external advisory / support groups, IDN >> user groups otherwise not part of the ICANN organization and invited experts >> could all gather together in one room on a suitable day during the Seoul >> Meeting to discuss all pending issues related to IDN implementation. The >> purpose is to bring together view points from the different constituencies / >> support organizations / experts to reconcile the most important issues that >> could consume time if discussed in different rooms. > > FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and it will in general move ICANN one > step forward regarding multistakeholder participation. Reason for this is > that there is some view out there that ICANN Constituencies stop working > when each one of them have reached a consensus -- the rest of the consensus > building (across constituences) are left as an exercise for ICANN staff and > of course the Board. > > So I strongly support this initiative. Not only for IDN discussions but in > general for ICANN. I think there should be a broader consensus in general > before decisions are made. Call me conservative, but we play with dangerous > goods here (the global DNS system). > > Regards, Patrik [that for many unfortunate reasons called in 40 min late, > but did not hear anyone, so that was too late] > > >

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IDN Liasion's Report
by Sivasubramanian Muthusamy Aug. 31, 2009

Aug. 31, 2009

Hello CLO, 1. I have posted the liaison's report at page http://bit.ly/alacidnaug as also attached as a PDF document here. Please let me know if any improvements are needed on this short update. 2. Following the IDN PDP working group call I have sent this message to the group. (The suggestion for inter-constituency meetings is more clearly expressed in this message) I have made a mention of this in the working group, rather than assume that it is too late to think of meetings of this nature for the Seoul meeting. More importantly, your recommendations as Chair of ALAC could get other constituencies and participant groups to pay attention to this suggestion. Thank you Sivasubramanian Muthusamy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [ccnso-idnpdpwg1] Agenda today's call To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel(a)icann.org> Cc: "ccnso-idnpdpwg1(a)icann.org" <ccnso-idnpdpwg1(a)icann.org>, ALAC Working List <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Hello Bart Boswinkel, I am sending this note AFTER the meeting, but this was intended to be raised as a suggestion under "any other business". As an introductory statement to the ALAC comments on the 3rd Revison of the Draft Implementation Plan http://bit.ly/idnmeeting the following was stated: "With the view to expeditiously complete the IDN related tasks, it is proposed that ICANN incorporates in its agenda for the Seoul meeting a full day of meetings to focus on IDNs, scheduled as inter‐constituency meetings attended by invited experts, staff and finance committees to resolve all pending issues related to IDN Policy and pave the way for implementation." This has also been mentioned at an ALAC meeting, though not formally discussed nor voted upon as an ALAC suggestion. The suggestion is to have inter-constituency meetings during Seoul where ccNSO, GNSO and its commercial and non-commercial constituencies, GAC, ALAC, SSAC as also Board Representatives, Staff designated for IDNs, finance and administration committees, IETF, external advisory / support groups, IDN user groups otherwise not part of the ICANN organization and invited experts could all gather together in one room on a suitable day during the Seoul Meeting to discuss all pending issues related to IDN implementation. The purpose is to bring together view points from the different constituencies / support organizations / experts to reconcile the most important issues that could consume time if discussed in different rooms. The inter-constituency meetings could be visualized as happening in the main room on a certain day (or half - a - day) which is relatively a light day for most constituencies, who could also be free to concurrently have their sessions on any other topic that may require to be discussed within their constituencies, but after assigning enough responsible participants to the proposed inter-constituency meetings. This could also be an opportunity for various IDN working groups to report on their work for consolidation. Thank you Sivasubramanian Muthusamy ALAC IDN Liaison.

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