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Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays/staff demands
by Beau Brendler March 28, 2012

March 28, 2012

Well, at the regional level, it's not necessary, for instance, to hold a NA-RALO meeting on site. I was doing it because I thought it made the folks back home feel more connected to the action. However, I don't believe we had any participation remotely in Costa Rica. So there's one meeting we can take off the overall schedule the next time around. -----Original Message----- >From: Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich(a)icann.org> >Sent: Mar 28, 2012 11:55 AM >To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com> >Cc: "alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays/staff demands > >Thank you for the kind recognition of the work of At-Large staff, Olivier. > >You are correct in noting that in Costa Rica the combination of a significant increase in the number of At-Large meetings as well as a smaller and more spread-out venue, posed a particular challenge to At-Large staff as well as to the Meetings and Technical support staff and interpreters. > >In order to continue to provide the At-Large community with excellent support during ICANN Meetings, At-Large staff are already discussing ways in which we can work more effectively as a team as well as with all the behind-the-scenes personnel that are involved in providing you with excellent meeting support. > >In scheduling At-Large sessions during future ICANN Meetings, avoiding overlapping At-Large sessions would be a very useful way in which to ensure you have the full support of all At-Large staff. Similarly, trying to not schedule back-to-back sessions would allow both At-Large community members and staff to have time to move to another meeting room if required. However, I realize that scheduling challenges are often due not only to the number of At-Large meetings but also to the size and layout of the venue as well as the number of other meetings. > >We very much welcome any suggestions on how At-Large staff could provide you with improved support! > >Kind regards, >Heidi > >Heidi Ullrich >Director for At-Large >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: + 1 (310) 578 - 8647 >Fax: +1 (310) 823 - 8649 >Cell/Mobile: +1 (310) 437 - 3956 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:13 AM >To: alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Subject: Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays/staff demands > >Dear Beau, > >yes, with 33 sessions to run, there were times when staff had to run 2 sessions in parallel. >Furthermore, the topology of the place made it sometimes hard for staff to close one meeting in one place and run across to the other end of the campus for the next. The scheduling Team was definitely not attentive to this fact. >That said, considering all of the work our At-Large staff had to do, I think that they did a heck of a job and am more than impressed by the work they did. In fact, I was awed that they were in the main ALAC room daily at 6:50am and still there, still working at 6:30pm daily. And in the evenings too, preparing the next day, they were working away in the staff room whilst some of us were at the Music night or Gala. Top marks from me. > >That said - I am definitely sensitive to not repeating this again. > >Kind regards, > >Olivier > >On 28/03/2012 14:28, Beau Brendler wrote : >> Another aspect of this I forgot to mention was: I, too, have seen the at-large ICANN staff overburdened. Costa Rica seemed to be the worst, for whatever reason. The support was just not as smooth, and staff kept leaving meetings early or coming in late in order to run other meetings -- seemed like there were too many meetings run concurrently. The NA RALO meeting was particularly unfortunate in this regard. This is not a criticism of staff, but of the current arrangements as they are. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org >>> Sent: Mar 28, 2012 5:57 AM >>> To: 'Beau Brendler' <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net>, 'Evan Leibovitch' >>> <evan(a)telly.org> >>> Cc: 'ALAC Working List' <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>> Subject: RE: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays >>> >>> I disagree with Evan on the Board Theater. >>> >>> If I follow your way of thinking, I would say everything can be done virtually, and there is no need for ICANN meetings. >>> I remember the room was full in San Francisco on Friday, in Nairobi too. >>> It's true that in our At-Large community, only the ExCom members are funded to leave on Saturday, and most of our people can't attend the Friday session because they would be between the hotel and the Airport while the session is held. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Tijani BEN JEMAA >>> Executive Director >>> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations Phone : + 216 70 >>> 825 231 Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 >>> Fax : + 216 70 825 231 >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : Beau Brendler [mailto:beaubrendler@earthlink.net] >>> Envoyé : mercredi 28 mars 2012 01:47 >>> À : Evan Leibovitch; tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org Cc : ALAC Working List >>> Objet : Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays >>> >>> I haven't been funded to attend Fridays for years -- even going back to when I was in ALAC. As a regional leader, I agree with Evan, I don't care about board theatre, but I do think the extra time would be valuable. The one time I attended an ALAC ex com meeting (was in San Francisco and my homebound flight didn't leave until late) I thought the experience was worthwhile. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> >>>> Sent: Mar 27, 2012 3:46 PM >>>> To: tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org >>>> Cc: ALAC Working List <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays >>>> >>>> I disagree with removing Friday, but for far different reasons than Tijani. >>>> >>>> I may be well known for having zero interest in what I call the >>>> miserable "Board Theatre" that takes place Fridays. In Costa Rica I >>>> attended out of support for Olivier, who presented the ALAC report >>>> to a generally empty room early in the morning. I personally have >>>> little interest in events that are, by design, non-interactive, with >>>> the Board taking final votes (and >>>> speeches) on matters already decided previously. Real conflict >>>> rarely happens in the open meetings. The reports (and comments >>>> accompanying dissenting votes) could/should be done in the form of >>>> pre-recorded slideshows or videos which could be easily seen by >>>> anyone in the community at any time. >>>> >>>> Having said that, I see first hand the absolute panic that At-Large >>>> staff has in advance of all meetings, cramming our various meetings >>>> into every possible available space. So I would argue that we still >>>> need the Friday -- but we need it for something more than Board >>>> threatre, we need it to reduce pressure on the rest of the week. >>>> >>>> If I had my way I would have the Thursday At-Large "wrap up" meeting >>>> take place Friday morning, freeing Thursday up for other things, >>>> such as At-Large working groups which could use the time to write >>>> proposals for ALAC consideration on Friday and/or the public forum. >>>> These proposals could then be accepted or referred back to RALOs as necessary. >>>> >>>> The tradition of an open ALAC executive meeting Friday afternoons >>>> works well and is worth preserving. And to those who want to blow >>>> off Friday afternoon for tourism after an exhausting week (and don't >>>> have to be at the ExCom meeting), you earned it. (Well, most of you >>>> ;-) .) >>>> >>>> - Evan >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ALAC mailing list >>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >>>> >>>> At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: >>>> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Commit >>>> tee >>>> +(ALAC) >>> >>> ----- >>> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >>> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >>> Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 La Base de données des virus a expiré. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >> >> At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: >> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committe >> e+(ALAC) >> > >-- >Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD >http://www.gih.com/ocl.html > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…

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.com Registry Agreement Renewal - Public comment - ends 26 April 2012
by Alan Greenberg March 28, 2012

March 28, 2012

.com Registry Agreement Renewal http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-27mar12-en.htm Executive Summary ICANN is posting today for public comment Verisign's proposed agreement for renewal of the 2006 .com Registry Agreement between ICANN and Verisign. This proposal is a result of discussions between ICANN and VeriSign, and will be considered by the ICANN Board after public comment. The current agreement will expire on 30 November 2012. Public comment may be submitted through April 26, 2012 and viewed at: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/com-renewal-27mar12-en.htm This summary describes important aspects of the registry agreement renewal process, the content of the proposed agreement renewal, and certain background to the proposed agreement. This summary is accompanied by the "red line" version of the agreement and several documents that describe and summarize the proposal. Upcoming agreements due to be renewed in 2012 such as .biz, .info, .name and .org will follow a similar process.

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Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays/staff demands
by Beau Brendler March 28, 2012

March 28, 2012

Another aspect of this I forgot to mention was: I, too, have seen the at-large ICANN staff overburdened. Costa Rica seemed to be the worst, for whatever reason. The support was just not as smooth, and staff kept leaving meetings early or coming in late in order to run other meetings -- seemed like there were too many meetings run concurrently. The NA RALO meeting was particularly unfortunate in this regard. This is not a criticism of staff, but of the current arrangements as they are. -----Original Message----- >From: tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org >Sent: Mar 28, 2012 5:57 AM >To: 'Beau Brendler' <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net>, 'Evan Leibovitch' <evan(a)telly.org> >Cc: 'ALAC Working List' <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: RE: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays > >I disagree with Evan on the Board Theater. > >If I follow your way of thinking, I would say everything can be done virtually, and there is no need for ICANN meetings. >I remember the room was full in San Francisco on Friday, in Nairobi too. >It's true that in our At-Large community, only the ExCom members are funded to leave on Saturday, and most of our people can't attend the Friday session because they would be between the hotel and the Airport while the session is held. > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Tijani BEN JEMAA >Executive Director >Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations >Phone : + 216 70 825 231 >Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 >Fax : + 216 70 825 231 >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Beau Brendler [mailto:beaubrendler@earthlink.net] >Envoyé : mercredi 28 mars 2012 01:47 >À : Evan Leibovitch; tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org >Cc : ALAC Working List >Objet : Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays > >I haven't been funded to attend Fridays for years -- even going back to when I was in ALAC. As a regional leader, I agree with Evan, I don't care about board theatre, but I do think the extra time would be valuable. The one time I attended an ALAC ex com meeting (was in San Francisco and my homebound flight didn't leave until late) I thought the experience was worthwhile. > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> >>Sent: Mar 27, 2012 3:46 PM >>To: tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org >>Cc: ALAC Working List <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>Subject: Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays >> >>I disagree with removing Friday, but for far different reasons than Tijani. >> >>I may be well known for having zero interest in what I call the >>miserable "Board Theatre" that takes place Fridays. In Costa Rica I >>attended out of support for Olivier, who presented the ALAC report to a >>generally empty room early in the morning. I personally have little >>interest in events that are, by design, non-interactive, with the Board >>taking final votes (and >>speeches) on matters already decided previously. Real conflict rarely >>happens in the open meetings. The reports (and comments accompanying >>dissenting votes) could/should be done in the form of pre-recorded >>slideshows or videos which could be easily seen by anyone in the >>community at any time. >> >>Having said that, I see first hand the absolute panic that At-Large >>staff has in advance of all meetings, cramming our various meetings >>into every possible available space. So I would argue that we still >>need the Friday -- but we need it for something more than Board >>threatre, we need it to reduce pressure on the rest of the week. >> >>If I had my way I would have the Thursday At-Large "wrap up" meeting >>take place Friday morning, freeing Thursday up for other things, such >>as At-Large working groups which could use the time to write proposals >>for ALAC consideration on Friday and/or the public forum. These >>proposals could then be accepted or referred back to RALOs as necessary. >> >>The tradition of an open ALAC executive meeting Friday afternoons works >>well and is worth preserving. And to those who want to blow off Friday >>afternoon for tourism after an exhausting week (and don't have to be at >>the ExCom meeting), you earned it. (Well, most of you ;-) .) >> >>- Evan >>_______________________________________________ >>ALAC mailing list >>ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >> >>At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: >>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee >>+(ALAC) > > >----- >Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 La Base de données des virus a expiré. >

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Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays
by Beau Brendler March 28, 2012

March 28, 2012

I haven't been funded to attend Fridays for years -- even going back to when I was in ALAC. As a regional leader, I agree with Evan, I don't care about board theatre, but I do think the extra time would be valuable. The one time I attended an ALAC ex com meeting (was in San Francisco and my homebound flight didn't leave until late) I thought the experience was worthwhile. -----Original Message----- >From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> >Sent: Mar 27, 2012 3:46 PM >To: tijani.benjemaa(a)fmai.org >Cc: ALAC Working List <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays > >I disagree with removing Friday, but for far different reasons than Tijani. > >I may be well known for having zero interest in what I call the miserable >"Board Theatre" that takes place Fridays. In Costa Rica I attended out of >support for Olivier, who presented the ALAC report to a generally empty >room early in the morning. I personally have little interest in events that >are, by design, non-interactive, with the Board taking final votes (and >speeches) on matters already decided previously. Real conflict rarely >happens in the open meetings. The reports (and comments accompanying >dissenting votes) could/should be done in the form of pre-recorded >slideshows or videos which could be easily seen by anyone in the community >at any time. > >Having said that, I see first hand the absolute panic that At-Large staff >has in advance of all meetings, cramming our various meetings into every >possible available space. So I would argue that we still need the Friday -- >but we need it for something more than Board threatre, we need it to reduce >pressure on the rest of the week. > >If I had my way I would have the Thursday At-Large "wrap up" meeting take >place Friday morning, freeing Thursday up for other things, such as >At-Large working groups which could use the time to write proposals for >ALAC consideration on Friday and/or the public forum. These proposals could >then be accepted or referred back to RALOs as necessary. > >The tradition of an open ALAC executive meeting Friday afternoons works >well and is worth preserving. And to those who want to blow off Friday >afternoon for tourism after an exhausting week (and don't have to be at the >ExCom meeting), you earned it. (Well, most of you ;-) .) > >- Evan >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…

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ICANN meeting on Fridays
by Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Dear Folks, there is currently some discussion amongst the Board and SO/ACs, about the Friday session at ICANN meetings. The sessions starts at 8:00 with Board Committee Report, then continuing with SO/AC Chair Reports and then the ICANN Board Meeting. Traditionally, this has been poorly attended and rather boring to sit through. There is discussion whether this could be replaced with written reports to be filed on the ICANN Web Site, thus shortening the ICANN week by one day. Any note of thanks would take place in the Thursday afternoon Public Forum & Wrap up. The response I have provided so far, is that whilst I am not against having our ALAC report published instead of spoken -- for those of you who have attended, I have kept my spoken report to less than 3 minutes but for some, the reporting is really tedious and long --, I am concerned that this would shorten an already packed week. In particular, the ALAC Executive Committee meets on Friday afternoon and this is the time when we have access to the CEO, COO, CFO etc. This is the time when we can really interchange with Senior ICANN staff. I am therefore concerned that ICANN not having a morning session on Fridays would mean our afternoon session would be scrapped too. Also, in San José, we also used the Friday morning for LACRALO capacity building, so this day was needed. I'd be interested in your point of view, so that I can relay it to the Board members who have asked me my point of view. Kind regards, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair

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Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays
by Alan Greenberg March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

That is incorrect. Following an ATRT recommendation, the Board approved compensation at it's Dec 8, 2011 meeting (http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-08dec11-en.htm#3) US$35,000 per Director plus $5,000 for being Chair of a Board Committee. There is a list of which Directors have chosen to accept the compensation and which refused at http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/ce/voting-list-14mar12-en.htm. Alan At 26/03/2012 04:49 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: >Thanks Carlton, so they don't get paid. Interesting :) > > >On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Carlton Samuels ><carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > I'm in agreement with Tijani here and for the very reasons he outlined. > > > > Lord knows reducing the burn for a day would have been helpful in a very > > personal way. But I think a public board meeting at least 3 times a year > > sends a very important signal to the community and gives all of us a chance > > to read 'body language' or even witness a voluble dissent when matters come > > to the vote. > > > > Yes to continued formal Board committee reports. But I would err on the > > side for format like the ALAC's; highlights only and keep it to 5 minutes, > > tops. > > > > @Sala, other than a recent grant of a stipend to the Chair, ICANN Board > > members DO NOT get paid. Not even a a stipend! I am on record in support > > for payment/stipend. Way too much time is required to work effectively for > > no compensation. And it not's because of affordability. > > > > Here's my fundamental problem with that posture of non-compensation. It > > undermines the diversity objective by effectively reduces the pool of > > prospective Board members from places like where I live. A very effective > > non-intrusive barrier to entry. > > > > - Carlton > > > > ============================== > > Carlton A Samuels > > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > > ============================= > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com > > >wrote: > > > > > Dear Folks, > > > > > > there is currently some discussion amongst the Board and SO/ACs, about > > > the Friday session at ICANN meetings. > > > The sessions starts at 8:00 with Board Committee Report, then continuing > > > with SO/AC Chair Reports and then the ICANN Board Meeting. > > > Traditionally, this has been poorly attended and rather boring to sit > > > through. > > > > > > There is discussion whether this could be replaced with written reports > > > to be filed on the ICANN Web Site, thus shortening the ICANN week by one > > > day. Any note of thanks would take place in the Thursday afternoon > > > Public Forum & Wrap up. > > > > > > The response I have provided so far, is that whilst I am not against > > > having our ALAC report published instead of spoken -- for those of you > > > who have attended, I have kept my spoken report to less than 3 minutes > > > but for some, the reporting is really tedious and long --, I am > > > concerned that this would shorten an already packed week. In particular, > > > the ALAC Executive Committee meets on Friday afternoon and this is the > > > time when we have access to the CEO, COO, CFO etc. This is the time when > > > we can really interchange with Senior ICANN staff. I am therefore > > > concerned that ICANN not having a morning session on Fridays would mean > > > our afternoon session would be scrapped too. > > > > > > Also, in San José, we also used the Friday morning for LACRALO capacity > > > building, so this day was needed. > > > > > > I'd be interested in your point of view, so that I can relay it to the > > > Board members who have asked me my point of view. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond > > > ALAC Chair > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ALAC mailing list > > > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC mailing list > > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > ALAC Working Wiki: > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > > > > >-- >Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > >Tweeter: @SalanietaT >Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >Cell: +679 998 2851 >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: >https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…

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Re: [ALAC] board directors pay
by Alan Greenberg March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

At $6-10k per business class flight (more if on short notice) from New Zealand to somewhere, $175k doesn't go that far! ;-) Alan At 26/03/2012 06:00 PM, Beau Brendler wrote: >I ran across an interesting ICANN document from 2010. I will try to >dig it up again. It listed payments to board members (prior to this >effort for individual remuneration. The smallest number was about >$30K, going up to $175K (Dengate-Thrush) and a few even more than >that. I agree the board should get paid, and should be reimbursed >for expenses, which is what I imagine the case was for the $30K >crowd. But some of these people were pulling down a lot of money.

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board directors pay
by Beau Brendler March 26, 2012

March 26, 2012

I ran across an interesting ICANN document from 2010. I will try to dig it up again. It listed payments to board members (prior to this effort for individual remuneration. The smallest number was about $30K, going up to $175K (Dengate-Thrush) and a few even more than that. I agree the board should get paid, and should be reimbursed for expenses, which is what I imagine the case was for the $30K crowd. But some of these people were pulling down a lot of money. -----Original Message----- >From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> >Sent: Mar 26, 2012 4:06 PM >To: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa(a)gmail.com> >Cc: ALAC Working List <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [ALAC] ICANN meeting on Fridays > >I am not sure where they are paid but is usually the practice globally that >if you are a Director, you receive what's called Director's fees or some >kind of emolument etc. I have not checked but you can go to the website >Fouad and look up the Financials and it is usually disclosed. > >It is nothing "new" and my view is that any Director of any Board should be >paid/remunerated for work done in directing. > >My comments were based on my assumption and happy to be corrected. > >On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> ICANN Board Members are paid? Is this true? >> >> -- Foo? >> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Dear Olivier, >> > >> > I am against the idea of merely providing written reports and shortening >> it >> > so. I will explain why. Board members are paid to do the work and should >> > not be seen to be shirking nor trying to cut a day, on the other hand the >> > ALAC are all committed volunteers who do work without receipt of payment. >> > >> > The Thursday Board meeting is merely "show" or keeping up with >> appearances >> > for an open and transparent environment. Secondly, even from Thursday >> > meeting dynamics, there is no exclusive ALAC time of interface with the >> > Board. >> > >> > The convergence of Board members face to face with all stakeholders is >> > something which we should optimise and maximise in terms of Board >> meetings >> > or ALAC reports to Board meetings. The real behind the scenes Board >> > meetings happens on Friday. Rather than asking why it is poorly attended, >> > one would think that it should really happen on Saturday or Sunday when >> > everyone is still there. Either way, ALAC Excom should at least be >> present >> > in the Board Meetings when ALAC chair presents the Report. >> > >> > Whilst, the ALAC Chair may be submitting monthly written reports to the >> > Board, it is not the same dynamics as being in the room together. The >> > Board, in my view should exercise leadership and be creative in how it >> > rearranges its program to ensure that attendance is strengthened rather >> > than wiping it out altogether. >> > >> > Kind Regards, >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Dear Folks, >> >> >> >> there is currently some discussion amongst the Board and SO/ACs, about >> >> the Friday session at ICANN meetings. >> >> The sessions starts at 8:00 with Board Committee Report, then continuing >> >> with SO/AC Chair Reports and then the ICANN Board Meeting. >> >> Traditionally, this has been poorly attended and rather boring to sit >> >> through. >> >> >> >> There is discussion whether this could be replaced with written reports >> >> to be filed on the ICANN Web Site, thus shortening the ICANN week by one >> >> day. Any note of thanks would take place in the Thursday afternoon >> >> Public Forum & Wrap up. >> >> >> >> The response I have provided so far, is that whilst I am not against >> >> having our ALAC report published instead of spoken -- for those of you >> >> who have attended, I have kept my spoken report to less than 3 minutes >> >> but for some, the reporting is really tedious and long --, I am >> >> concerned that this would shorten an already packed week. In particular, >> >> the ALAC Executive Committee meets on Friday afternoon and this is the >> >> time when we have access to the CEO, COO, CFO etc. This is the time when >> >> we can really interchange with Senior ICANN staff. I am therefore >> >> concerned that ICANN not having a morning session on Fridays would mean >> >> our afternoon session would be scrapped too. >> >> >> >> Also, in San José, we also used the Friday morning for LACRALO capacity >> >> building, so this day was needed. >> >> >> >> I'd be interested in your point of view, so that I can relay it to the >> >> Board members who have asked me my point of view. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond >> >> ALAC Chair >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> ALAC mailing list >> >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >> >> >> >> At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >> >> ALAC Working Wiki: >> >> >> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> > >> > Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> > Cell: +679 998 2851 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ALAC mailing list >> > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac >> > >> > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >> > ALAC Working Wiki: >> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards. >> -------------------------- >> Fouad Bajwa >> > > > >-- >Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > >Tweeter: @SalanietaT >Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >Cell: +679 998 2851 >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > >At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL…

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SSR-RT Draft Report [Request for an Extension]
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro March 25, 2012

March 25, 2012

Dear All, Warm Greetings from Fiji. I am mindful that their SSR-RT Draft Report on the 15th March, 2012 in Costa Rica, see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm I am still in the middle of preparing my Report to my RALO and will invite feedback on this. I am also aware that in light of the appointment of a new Liaison officer Julie Hammond, that we should consider writing to ask for an extension to enable us to gather feedback from the various RALOs and consolidate it into a Statement of some sort. Currently comments close on the 8th April, 2012. Olof Nording is the contact within ICANN Staff: olof.nordling(a)icann.org Basically, I am asking for an extension just in case we do not receive feedback in time. From what was told to us in Costa Rica, the minimum is 21 days which means that the extension is doable. Warm Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851

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When will ALAC make its conflict of interest statement?
by Beau Brendler March 21, 2012

March 21, 2012

Hope everyone had good journeys back. I assume you all have seen this story in the New York Times? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/19/technology/private-fight-at-internet-nami… ALAC is frequently concerned with how it is perceived by others, especially when it comes to representing the user community. For the New York Times to have written a story like this, it must have deemed the story to be relevant to the general public. Yet ALAC, despite having ample opportunity and guidance during the week, failed to make a statement, even when it was already written for them, twice, by me. It distracted itself by claiming the story was no big news, or out of scope, or too confrontational for its multicultural nature, etc. etc. And it was distracted by the failure of LACRALO to conduct a meaningful general assembly. Rather than focus on policy issues, such as this one, it focused on elections of its own officers. Fortunately, I do believe Jean-Jacques Subrenat raised the conflict of interest issue in the public forum, but, as he eloquently pointed out to the list, he was something of a lone voice in doing so. Since the ALAC does not consider such issues as those that appear in the New York Times story to be of importanance, then I am forced to conclude that ALAC is not capable in its current construction to carry out its mission to speak for the Internet user. I have been asked by one of the publications I write for to put together a story about what's going on here, and I believe I have no other choice, in fact, am obligated as a journalist to cite ALAC's failure to raise this issue sooner (or at all). Beau Brendler

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