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BC Nominating Committee Elections: Results
by Benedetta Rossi Aug. 9, 2013

Aug. 9, 2013

Dear BC Members, This is an election announcement regarding the BC Nominating Committee elections which concluded yesterday, August 7th, 2013. Out of 49 BC Members, 28 members voted in this election. Upon reception of each vote, as Voting Officer I tallied each vote and applied the BC weighted voting according to each members category. Once the tallies were completed and the voting period closed, Glen De Saint Gery (Returning Officer) and Rob Hoggarth (Verifying Officer) verified all votes, and the tally. The confirmed results are the following: Large Business Seat: · Ron Andruff: 30 votes in favor and 1 abstention · Sarah Deutsch: 51 votes in favor and 1 abstention Small Business Seat: · Jimson Olufuye: 27 votes in favor · Stéphane Van Gelder: 55 votes in favor The winners of the elections are therefore: Sarah Deutsch (Large Business Seat) and Stéphane Van Gelder (Small Business Seat). Please join me in congratulating Sarah and Stéphane. Thank you, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat(a)icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org

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CORRECTION: BC Nominating Committee Elections: Results
by Benedetta Rossi Aug. 9, 2013

Aug. 9, 2013

Dear BC Members, This is an election announcement regarding the BC Nominating Committee elections which concluded yesterday, August 7th, 2013. Out of 49 BC Members, 38 members voted in this election. Upon reception of each vote, as Voting Officer I tallied each vote and applied the BC weighted voting according to each members category. Once the tallies were completed and the voting period closed, Glen De Saint Gery (Returning Officer) and Rob Hoggarth (Verifying Officer) verified all votes, and the tally. The confirmed results are the following: Large Business Seat: · Ron Andruff: 30 votes in favor and 1 abstention · Sarah Deutsch: 51 votes in favor and 1 abstention Small Business Seat: · Jimson Olufuye: 27 votes in favor · Stéphane Van Gelder: 55 votes in favor The winners of the elections are therefore: Sarah Deutsch (Large Business Seat) and Stéphane Van Gelder (Small Business Seat). Please join me in congratulating Sarah and Stéphane. Thank you, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat(a)icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org

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RE: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)
by Fares, David Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Colleagues, We have been reviewing the BC comments and the very robust exchange among members. We would like to raise two issues which are fundamental to the BC's views. We look forward to working with everyone to find a compromise and a way forward. 1. We have concerns regarding the focus on commercial versus non-commercial sites. Some sites may not have any commercial intent or raise any revenues but they could still have a commercial impact on other businesses. Addressing this latter issue is essential to maintaining both business and consumer trust in the Internet. We are very sympathetic to the need to protect political speech and are happy to work with members to define an appropriate approach for the BC to advocate. Perhaps it is better to focus on the "reveal" rules for proxy services if the domain name is commercial or has a commercial impact? 2. We share concerns regarding access by authoritarian regimes but wonder if, as drafted, the comments will create significant political challenges for the BC going forward. It could also put ICANN in a very difficult political situation that could jeopardize its position as a technical body. We are not sure how we handle this but wanted to flag it for consideration. Thank you for your consideration and as mentioned we look forward to discussing these comments. David PS: Apologies for the delay in posting, I tried several times but I have a new email address that was not recognized for posting. From: owner-bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Smith, Bill Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:58 PM To: bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Thanks to all for the proposed language and willingness to come to an agreement. i will defer to others on language and/or whether or not include a statement on this issue or not. I think it unfortunate that we were driven to such a rapid conclusion on this topic but that is where we are. On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak(a)gmail.com<mailto:gabrielaszlak@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear all, We would like to thank all BC members that are involved in these efforts, particularly Susan who is a member of the EWG and the drafters of the comment and proposed changes. We support Marie´s compromise language for the ccTLDs issue and the approach suggested by Marilyn. Regarding the security concerns we are not a technical organization but we do recognize the security issues at stake are important and would like to point out those issues with the best approach possible, counting on the guidance of the expertise of other members of the group. In that light Marie´s moderated version, if accepted by the group are fine with us. Thanks again for these efforts, Gabi 2013/8/6 Marilyn Cade <marilynscade(a)hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com>> Thanks, Marie. I think this is a good approach. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo(a)aim.be<mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:42:08 To: <stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>>; <john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> Cc: <susank(a)fb.com<mailto:susank@fb.com>>; <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>>; <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>>; <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>; <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Dear all, I don't know the politics and history, but wonder if we can find a middle ground: eventually we'd like the system to be the same everywhere, for everyone. So for that long game, and to give us something to refer back to without putting anyone on the spot right now, could we replace Stéphane's suggestion with something more generic, e.g.: "The BC looks forward to active involvement in this debate as it goes forward and hopes that the entire community will work towards one unified model for all registration data in the future, to the benefit of all Internet users and the entire DNS industry." Obviously deferring to John, Marilyn and the other experts here! Marie From: owner-bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org>] On Behalf Of stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> Sent: mardi 6 août 2013 11:33 To: john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> Cc: Susan Kawaguchi; J. Scott Evans; Smith, Bill; Steve DelBianco; bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Thanks John. I really am not looking to light a fuse. I am looking to address a problem that repeatedly vexes Internet users. They just do not understand why they have to face such varying levels of WHOIS format, complexity and operation in their daily domain-owning lives. And they tend to own both cc and g domains regardless, according to their needs. However as said before, I understand your concerns. Your suggestion to approach Byron discreetly may be a good "diplomatic" move. I would support. I would also support Marilyn's suggestion to check where the rest of the CSG is on this issue. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053<tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 6 août 2013 à 03:02, john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> a écrit : Stephane, As you know, I am not afraid to light a fuse, but make no mistake in my judgement that this will be lighting a fuse. Perhaps we can let Byron (new chair of the ccNSO council know what we are up to. I would be more than happy to make the contact as he is Canadian and will likely take it politely if not well. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) From: stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> Date: 8/5/13 4:58 pm To: "Susan Kawaguchi" <susank(a)fb.com<mailto:susank@fb.com> <mailto:susank@fb.com<mailto:susank@fb.com>> > Cc: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> >, "john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> " <john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> >, "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> >, "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> >, "bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> > I understand the sentiments expressed by John and Susan. However, I would think it a pity that the ICANN community as a whole once again decides to shy away completely from any attempt at bringing some common sense into the g and cc coexistence. For me, at a time when so many ccs are either already behaving as gs or about to manage some new gTLDs themselves, I think it is not unreasonable to suggest that both namespaces look towards some way of finding a common approach on registration data. I also think that the BC, as the home of business in the ICANN ecosystem, would be behaving in a responsible manner to its constituents by highlighting this fact in this instance. I believe the language I have suggested is soft enough not to appear aggressive for cc managers. So I would suggest we have a good opportunity here to get a common sense message across. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053<tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 6 août 2013 à 00:58, Susan Kawaguchi <susank(a)fb.com<mailto:susank@fb.com> <mailto:susank@fb.com<mailto:susank@fb.com>> > a écrit : I agree with John, we have been very careful on the EWG to look at the ccTlds and how they manage the domain name record data but our mandate did not include looking at ccTld registration data for this database. I think we already have a steep uphill climb for gTlds and we may want to leave the ccTlds out of it for now. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064<tel:650%20485-6064> From: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> > Reply-To: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> > Date: Monday, August 5, 2013 3:52 PM To: "john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> " <john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> >, "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> >, "stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> " <stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> > Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> >, "bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) John: Thanks for the comment. That's just the kind of dialogue I am looking for here. Others? J. Scott j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385<tel:408.349.1385> - jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> ---------------- From: "john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> " <john(a)crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com<mailto:john@crediblecontext.com>> > To: J. Scott Evans <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> >; "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> >; stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> >; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) J. Scott, et. al., With regard to whether it will be a political bombshell or not, I cannot say, but as the GNSO Council liaison to the ccNSO Council I have come to appreciate the bright line they draw between the "g" and the "cc" name space. I suspect that even if Stephane's suggestion would not be the incendiary device you foretell, it would be a distraction from the more urgent matter of solving the directory services problem for the the gTLDs. I would vote not to include the language. My two cents. Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) From: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> > Date: 8/5/13 3:25 pm To: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> >, stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> Cc: "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> >, "bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> > Dear All: I have reviewed Bill's emails, his comments and those added by Stephane. I am fine with Stephane's comments so long as we all feel this wouldn't be a political bombshell (however realistic and practical it may be). As for Bill's suggestion about "entities". I have attempted to suggest language that I think assuage my concerns. Bill? J. Scott j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385<tel:408.349.1385> - jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> ---------------- From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> > To: "<stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> >" <stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> > Cc: J. Scott Evans <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> >; "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> >; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> >; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) I have attached an updated version. I'm quite happy with Stephane's addition but would ask J. Scott to offer alternative language for "entities" and to look with Yahoo to get a better understanding of the complexity and difficulty of operating a large-scale directory infrastructure, especially one that is by its nature sensitive. (see my comments within J Scott's comments) Any move from a freely available public WHOIS system to one that is mediated and subject to access controls requires careful consideration. Implementing a secure, internet-scale, global directory for "accredited" security professionals will be no small task. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:50 AM, <stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> > wrote: I have added to J Scott's latest redraft a bit at the end about the possibility of extending this work to the cc space. The wording is not perfect IMO, but hopefully the intent is clear. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053<tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.stephanevangelder.com…> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 5 août 2013 à 18:58, "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> > a écrit : Bill and team: I have re-reviewed the draft with Bill's suggested revisions. I have attached a redline showing my thoughts on top of Bill's suggested edits. J. Scott j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385<tel:408.349.1385> - jscottevans(a)yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com<mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com>> ---------------- From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com<mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>> > To: "stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> " <stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> > Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> >; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) +1 Attached is a marked up version of the document. I have attempted to replace web and website with Internet and service (generally) and hope that my changes read properly. I believe it important to make the distinction between the web and Internet since the ARDS is used for much more than the web. I also included some comments and additions that I believe are necessary to include. In particular, I disagree with the assertion that there is no foundation for the belief that the scale of the ARDS make it vulnerable. Internet entities are vulnerable regardless of size but as they grow, they become increasingly attractive targets. ARDS will be attractive - or the Registrar community has been disingenuous about the scale of SPAM, customer loss, etc. that results from harvesting information via WHOIS. I have also added text related to Gated Access and concerns related to data aggregation and operation of such a critical resource necessarily dependent on PII of security professionals. These individuals face very real risks given the work they do, those they "oppose", and the penalties imposed for crimes they uncover. I hope we will consider the changes I have proposed. On Aug 3, 2013, at 3:51 PM, stephvg(a)gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com<mailto:stephvg@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you Steve, Laura, Susan, J Scott and Elisa for a well drafted document that I believe is perfectly inline with business users interests as defined by our charter. If I might make a suggestion, even though it's out of scope of the EWG's work, I would love to see something in our opening comments about the fact that if the RDS model is adopted (or another unified model for managing gTLD registration data), it would be extremely beneficial for Internet users worldwide if ccTLD registries were also willing to work towards the adoption of the same, single-format, model. I think it's useful for commentors to the EWG's draft report to make this point, even though ccTLD managers abide by their own national laws and ways of doing things, because we all have a lot to gain from a more effective and more uniform registration data database. Apart from that suggestion, I have no other comments. The draft seems spot on to me and is supported by SVG Consulting Ltd. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053<tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.stephanevangelder.com…> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 3 août 2013 à 17:53, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> > a écrit : It's time for the BC to comment on the draft model for Next Generation gTLD Directory Services. The Expert Working Group (EWG) published its draft report here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://www.icann.org/en/groups/…> . Public comment page is here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.icann.org/en/groups/o…> and the EWG Wiki page is here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://community.icann.org/disp…> . Laura Covington prepared the attached draft of BC comments, with help from Susan Kawaguchi, J Scott Evans, and Elisa Cooper. 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policy v implementation working group
by Aparna Sridhar Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

All, We ran out of time at the end of the call but wanted to let you all know that I volunteered for the policy v. implementation working group as well. I look forward to hearing all of your views on the issues that arise. Cheers, Aparna Sridhar Policy Counsel Google Inc. 1101 New York Avenue N.W. Second Floor Washington, DC 20005 tel: 202.346.1261 e-mail: aparnasridhar(a)google.com

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BC call Finance Update
by Chris Chaplow Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Dear Members, Please find below my notes for the short Finance presentation that we did not have time for on the call just now. Happy to take any questions on line. FY14 Draft Budget was (I assume) passed by the BFC yesterday and ahead of the formal board approval on Aug 22nd I expect the approval will be, as every year, very close to the draft. There were two exception items added in Durban One was 3.5$ for the Strategy Panels Two Atlas II at large summit London 2014 0,7m$ Stakeholder comments were more stakeholder questions this year, and the answers to questions published ahead of Durban were very bland and general. There was a further opportunity to comment by August 4th but none of the SG did comment. I was in two minds about its value. Looking forward: There will be a Budget Process Development Group , like last year. With a number of calls between now and end of year to try to improve process ahead of the FY15 round. Whilst Marilyn and I have represented the BC on this, Xavier made clear in it is not a closed shop and any members are welcome. Moving on the SO/AC support requests. We received the results of these at the end of the Durban meeting. Elisa posted it to the BC list on the Thurday. Here are the BC highlights. We had just two approvals. One was the newsletter and other printed material for 8.000$ Another was to hold two or more outreach events for 10.000$, last year this was rolled into the LA Jan intercessional so did not happen as outreach. So Excom and member need to start planning this. On the negative side others were rejected Dev country Leadership Development which had supported projects in Latin America and Africa in FY13 Secretariat Support Funding was rejected again and there was a note about further ICANN in kind staff support mechanisms. Similar rejection for Banking services, with a note about help with a solution. Also of note: GNSO Non Contracted parties leadership development travel funding pilot is to be continued from FY13 to Fy14 Community Outreach Travel Pilot program. Community wide 75k to fund travel to third party events to do outreach for ICANN. Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucia.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: <mailto:chris@andalucia.com> chris(a)andalucia.com Web: <http://www.andalucia.com/> www.andalucia.com Information about Andalucia, Spain.

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BC Nominating Committee Elections: Voting Closed
by Benedetta Rossi Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Dear BC Members, Please note that the voting period for the BC Nominating Committee election is closed. Counting of the votes from the Voting Officer, and verification from the Returning Officer and Verifying Officer will take place today and tomorrow, with the result of the election announced by tomorrow, Friday, Aug. 9th, 2013. Thank you, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat(a)icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org

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BC Excomm Mailing list open to members
by Benedetta Rossi Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Dear BC Members, Please note that as of today, BC members have access to the BC Executive Committee's mailing list archives. I have manually added all members to the list to enable access to the archives, so each member will have received an automated email confirming their subscription to the list. This mailing list functions the same way as the bc-private mailing list. Each member will receive an automated email every month with a reminder of their password to access the archives. The password protected archives can be found on the link provided in the subscription email, which is automatically generated. Please disregard the rest of the information on the email, since the only applicable section is the access to the archives. Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions about the BC Excomm mailing list. Thank you, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat(a)icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org

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FW: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)
by Benedetta Rossi Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Dear BC Members, Please see below an email sent by David Fares which did not come through to the list due to an issue with the mailing list. Thank you, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat(a)icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org From: Fares, David Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:04 AM To: 'Smith, Bill'; bc-gnso(a)icann.org list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Colleagues, We have been reviewing the BC comments and the very robust exchange among members. We would like to raise two issues which are fundamental to the BCs views. We look forward to working with everyone to find a compromise and a way forward. 1. We have concerns regarding the focus on commercial versus non-commercial sites. Some sites may not have any commercial intent or raise any revenues but they could still have a commercial impact on other businesses. Addressing this latter issue is essential to maintaining both business and consumer trust in the Internet. We are very sympathetic to the need to protect political speech and are happy to work with members to define an appropriate approach for the BC to advocate. Perhaps it is better to focus on the reveal rules for proxy services if the domain name is commercial or has a commercial impact? 2. We share concerns regarding access by authoritarian regimes but wonder if, as drafted, the comments will create significant political challenges for the BC going forward. It could also put ICANN in a very difficult political situation that could jeopardize its position as a technical body. We are not sure how we handle this but wanted to flag it for consideration. Thank you for your consideration and as mentioned we look forward to discussing these comments. David From: owner-bc-gnso(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Smith, Bill Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:58 PM To: bc-gnso(a)icann.org list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Thanks to all for the proposed language and willingness to come to an agreement. i will defer to others on language and/or whether or not include a statement on this issue or not. I think it unfortunate that we were driven to such a rapid conclusion on this topic but that is where we are. On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear all, We would like to thank all BC members that are involved in these efforts, particularly Susan who is a member of the EWG and the drafters of the comment and proposed changes. We support Marie´s compromise language for the ccTLDs issue and the approach suggested by Marilyn. Regarding the security concerns we are not a technical organization but we do recognize the security issues at stake are important and would like to point out those issues with the best approach possible, counting on the guidance of the expertise of other members of the group. In that light Marie´s moderated version, if accepted by the group are fine with us. Thanks again for these efforts, Gabi 2013/8/6 Marilyn Cade <marilynscade(a)hotmail.com> Thanks, Marie. I think this is a good approach. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo(a)aim.be> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:42:08 To: <stephvg(a)gmail.com>; <john(a)crediblecontext.com> Cc: <susank(a)fb.com>; <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com>; <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com>; <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org>; <bc-gnso(a)icann.org> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Dear all, I don't know the politics and history, but wonder if we can find a middle ground: eventually we'd like the system to be the same everywhere, for everyone. So for that long game, and to give us something to refer back to without putting anyone on the spot right now, could we replace Stéphane's suggestion with something more generic, e.g.: "The BC looks forward to active involvement in this debate as it goes forward and hopes that the entire community will work towards one unified model for all registration data in the future, to the benefit of all Internet users and the entire DNS industry." Obviously deferring to John, Marilyn and the other experts here! Marie From: owner-bc-gnso(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of stephvg(a)gmail.com Sent: mardi 6 août 2013 11:33 To: john(a)crediblecontext.com Cc: Susan Kawaguchi; J. Scott Evans; Smith, Bill; Steve DelBianco; bc-gnso(a)icann.org list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) Thanks John. I really am not looking to light a fuse. I am looking to address a problem that repeatedly vexes Internet users. They just do not understand why they have to face such varying levels of WHOIS format, complexity and operation in their daily domain-owning lives. And they tend to own both cc and g domains regardless, according to their needs. However as said before, I understand your concerns. Your suggestion to approach Byron discreetly may be a good "diplomatic" move. I would support. I would also support Marilyn's suggestion to check where the rest of the CSG is on this issue. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 <tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 6 août 2013 à 03:02, john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> a écrit : Stephane, As you know, I am not afraid to light a fuse, but make no mistake in my judgement that this will be lighting a fuse. Perhaps we can let Byron (new chair of the ccNSO council know what we are up to. I would be more than happy to make the contact as he is Canadian and will likely take it politely if not well. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) From: stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> Date: 8/5/13 4:58 pm To: "Susan Kawaguchi" <susank(a)fb.com <mailto:susank@fb.com> > Cc: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> >, "john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> " <john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> >, "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> >, "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> >, "bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> > I understand the sentiments expressed by John and Susan. However, I would think it a pity that the ICANN community as a whole once again decides to shy away completely from any attempt at bringing some common sense into the g and cc coexistence. For me, at a time when so many ccs are either already behaving as gs or about to manage some new gTLDs themselves, I think it is not unreasonable to suggest that both namespaces look towards some way of finding a common approach on registration data. I also think that the BC, as the home of business in the ICANN ecosystem, would be behaving in a responsible manner to its constituents by highlighting this fact in this instance. I believe the language I have suggested is soft enough not to appear aggressive for cc managers. So I would suggest we have a good opportunity here to get a common sense message across. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 <tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 6 août 2013 à 00:58, Susan Kawaguchi <susank(a)fb.com <mailto:susank@fb.com> > a écrit : I agree with John, we have been very careful on the EWG to look at the ccTlds and how they manage the domain name record data but our mandate did not include looking at ccTld registration data for this database. I think we already have a steep uphill climb for gTlds and we may want to leave the ccTlds out of it for now. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 <tel:650%20485-6064> From: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> > Reply-To: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> > Date: Monday, August 5, 2013 3:52 PM To: "john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> " <john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> >, "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> >, "stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> " <stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> > Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> >, "bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> > Subject: Re: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) John: Thanks for the comment. That's just the kind of dialogue I am looking for here. Others? J. Scott j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> ---------------- From: "john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> " <john(a)crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> > To: J. Scott Evans <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> >; "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> >; stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> >; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) J. Scott, et. al., With regard to whether it will be a political bombshell or not, I cannot say, but as the GNSO Council liaison to the ccNSO Council I have come to appreciate the bright line they draw between the "g" and the "cc" name space. I suspect that even if Stephane's suggestion would not be the incendiary device you foretell, it would be a distraction from the more urgent matter of solving the directory services problem for the the gTLDs. I would vote not to include the language. My two cents. Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) From: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> > Date: 8/5/13 3:25 pm To: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> >, stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> Cc: "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> >, "bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> > Dear All: I have reviewed Bill's emails, his comments and those added by Stephane. I am fine with Stephane's comments so long as we all feel this wouldn't be a political bombshell (however realistic and practical it may be). As for Bill's suggestion about "entities". I have attempted to suggest language that I think assuage my concerns. Bill? J. Scott j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> ---------------- From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> > To: "<stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> >" <stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> > Cc: J. Scott Evans <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> >; "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> >; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> >; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) I have attached an updated version. I'm quite happy with Stephane's addition but would ask J. Scott to offer alternative language for "entities" and to look with Yahoo to get a better understanding of the complexity and difficulty of operating a large-scale directory infrastructure, especially one that is by its nature sensitive. (see my comments within J Scott's comments) Any move from a freely available public WHOIS system to one that is mediated and subject to access controls requires careful consideration. Implementing a secure, internet-scale, global directory for "accredited" security professionals will be no small task. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:50 AM, <stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> > wrote: I have added to J Scott's latest redraft a bit at the end about the possibility of extending this work to the cc space. The wording is not perfect IMO, but hopefully the intent is clear. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 <tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.stephanevangelder.com / <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.stephanevangelder.com /&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5x qQTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=39 6c77079583c49e46abef00845888658b07005e75d215b90ece8f0b321629b3> &k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xq QTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=396 c77079583c49e46abef00845888658b07005e75d215b90ece8f0b321629b3> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 5 août 2013 à 18:58, "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> > a écrit : Bill and team: I have re-reviewed the draft with Bill's suggested revisions. I have attached a redline showing my thoughts on top of Bill's suggested edits. J. Scott j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - jscottevans(a)yahoo.com <mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com> ---------------- From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith(a)paypal-inc.com <mailto:bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> > To: "stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> " <stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> > Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> >; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> list" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois) +1 Attached is a marked up version of the document. I have attempted to replace web and website with Internet and service (generally) and hope that my changes read properly. I believe it important to make the distinction between the web and Internet since the ARDS is used for much more than the web. I also included some comments and additions that I believe are necessary to include. In particular, I disagree with the assertion that there is no foundation for the belief that the scale of the ARDS make it vulnerable. Internet entities are vulnerable regardless of size but as they grow, they become increasingly attractive targets. ARDS will be attractive - or the Registrar community has been disingenuous about the scale of SPAM, customer loss, etc. that results from harvesting information via WHOIS. I have also added text related to Gated Access and concerns related to data aggregation and operation of such a critical resource necessarily dependent on PII of security professionals. These individuals face very real risks given the work they do, those they "oppose", and the penalties imposed for crimes they uncover. I hope we will consider the changes I have proposed. On Aug 3, 2013, at 3:51 PM, stephvg(a)gmail.com <mailto:stephvg@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Steve, Laura, Susan, J Scott and Elisa for a well drafted document that I believe is perfectly inline with business users interests as defined by our charter. If I might make a suggestion, even though it's out of scope of the EWG's work, I would love to see something in our opening comments about the fact that if the RDS model is adopted (or another unified model for managing gTLD registration data), it would be extremely beneficial for Internet users worldwide if ccTLD registries were also willing to work towards the adoption of the same, single-format, model. I think it's useful for commentors to the EWG's draft report to make this point, even though ccTLD managers abide by their own national laws and ways of doing things, because we all have a lot to gain from a more effective and more uniform registration data database. Apart from that suggestion, I have no other comments. The draft seems spot on to me and is supported by SVG Consulting Ltd. Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 <tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com <http://www.stephanevangelder.com/> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.stephanevangelder.com / <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.stephanevangelder.com /&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5x qQTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=39 6c77079583c49e46abef00845888658b07005e75d215b90ece8f0b321629b3> &k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xq QTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=396 c77079583c49e46abef00845888658b07005e75d215b90ece8f0b321629b3> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> Le 3 août 2013 à 17:53, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org <mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org> > a écrit : It's time for the BC to comment on the draft model for Next Generation gTLD Directory Services. The Expert Working Group (EWG) published its draft report here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://www.icann.org/en/groups/ other/gtld-directory-services/initial-report-24jun13-en.pdf <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://www.icann.org/en/groups/ other/gtld-directory-services/initial-report-24jun13-en.pdf&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4 dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xqQTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m= RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=3ee5d59a43ea0734285f 08b830a85f0098008efd56d42a979e9c2ebd5f42949b> &k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xq QTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=3ee 5d59a43ea0734285f08b830a85f0098008efd56d42a979e9c2ebd5f42949b> . Public comment page is here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.icann.org/en/groups/o ther/gtld-directory-services/share-24jun13-en.htm <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.icann.org/en/groups/o ther/gtld-directory-services/share-24jun13-en.htm&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3 D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xqQTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2 B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=52b62dd77d2bdf7019087cd723969e c9858c98b1e503d06e3aa13aed7c5ff404> &k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xq QTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=52b 62dd77d2bdf7019087cd723969ec9858c98b1e503d06e3aa13aed7c5ff404> and the EWG Wiki page is here <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://community.icann.org/disp lay/WG/Explore%2Bthe%2BDraft%2BNext%2BGeneration%2BgTLD%2BDirectory%2BServic es%2BModel <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://community.icann.org/disp lay/WG/Explore%2Bthe%2BDraft%2BNext%2BGeneration%2BgTLD%2BDirectory%2BServic es%2BModel&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc %2FGWno5xqQTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3 D%0A&s=b8461cf7b2005648feb89c930fe68ae0efe7ec587ac269aeb035a526115cb64f> &k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=RfTjtTQBKN%2BQcoX4JkHSqqoeuEc%2FGWno5xq QTlAKzPo%3D%0A&m=RaYn95eM%2B3xlzmZ4%2FBnEsjNbeHw02IY86kkEIblkK58%3D%0A&s=b84 61cf7b2005648feb89c930fe68ae0efe7ec587ac269aeb035a526115cb64f> . Laura Covington prepared the attached draft of BC comments, with help from Susan Kawaguchi, J Scott Evans, and Elisa Cooper. The comment period closes 12-Aug-2013, so please Reply All before 11-Aug with edits or questions. -- Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination Business Constituency <BC Comments - EWG Draft Model [v1].doc> <BC Comments - EWG Draft Model [v1] -JSE2.doc> <BC Comments - EWG Draft Model [v1] -JSE2-SVG.doc> -- Gabriela Szlak <http://www.clared.co/> www.clared.co <http://www.estudiorosz.com.ar/> www.estudiorosz.com.ar <http://www.einstituto.com.ar/> www.einstituto.org <http://www.gabrielaszlak.com.ar/> www.gabrielaszlak.com.ar Skype: gabrielaszlak Twitter: @GabiSzlak La información contenida en este e-mail es confidencial. The information in this e-mail is confidential. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. 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Final Reminder: BC NomCom Elections, Voting Period Closes today
by Benedetta Rossi Aug. 7, 2013

Aug. 7, 2013

Dear BC Members, Please note this is the final reminder for the currently open voting period for the BC Nominating Committee Elections. The voting period closes today, Wednesday, Aug. 7th 2013 at Midnight PST. Please send your completed ballots to bcvotes(a)hotmail.com. Thank you, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat(a)icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org

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First LRO in Which Objector Prevails
by Phil Corwin Aug. 6, 2013

Aug. 6, 2013

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