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Notes form GAC-GNSO joint meeting
by Steve DelBianco March 7, 2010

March 7, 2010

Very promising meeting with GAC GNSO Council. GAC shares many of our BC concerns about new gTLD program and EOI. And several GAC members agree that the ITU should not encroach on ICANN¹s role in internet policy-making. Meeting was chaired by Stephane van Gelder and Bertrand de La Chapelle Stephane started with GNSO questions about new gTLD program: > i. Do GAC members have any remaining concerns with respect to > geographic and intellectual property protections? > > ii. The GAC proposed that some additional studies be conducted before new > gTLDs are launched; what negative effects, if any, could be foreseen if such > studies are not completed before the launch? > > iii. The GAC has questioned the desirability of a single fee structure for > new gTLDs. How might variable fees affect market entry and the larger Internet > environment? How would they impact the distribution and recovery of costs? > > iv. The GAC has raised a number of concerns about the suitability and > time frame of the EOI model. Does it have specific suggestions as to how the > model could be improved, or a superior alternative model to suggest? Bertrand: Concerns at Second level more than at top-level. Concerns about Post-delegation more than pre-delegation. Zahid: BC filed minority report on STI because we think post-delegation RPMs are inadequate. TM Clearinghouse requirement ends at sunrise. We thought something was better than nothing and we wanted the process to move forward. Mark (UK): Why are we spending so much time designing an EOI? Zahid: if we invite objections to strings after EOI it would be unlimited and unregulated. Even riskier than defending against objections during the actual application. And we need more education for those in developing nations about the EOI schedule. Sweden: it's not a market analysis if it's mandatory. It's a pre-launch. Stephane: the closer the EOI is to the first round, the more we question the value of the EOI. If the rules must be final, do we need an EOI? If we need an EOI, are the rules final enough? Bertrand: This is promising for the week. We seem to be re-qualifying the EOI similarly. Debra Hughes (Red Cross): non-profits are concerned about EOI. Especially in developing countries where non-profits don't know about it. Also need to talk about fee structure and post-delegation measures against fraud and abuse. Bertrand: if final DAG is a pre-condition for EOI, who's to decide when DAG is final? Can one SO block it? Proposed that we could "Yellow" parts of the DAG that have to be final. If EOI just deals with strings, we can yellow just those DAG sections, for instance. Stephane: moving to our question #3, regarding ICANN in the wider Internet Environment. Here are GNSO questions for the GAC: > i. Can GAC members explain the relationship to ICANN in general and > to the GAC principles in particular of the ongoing intergovernmental > discussions (e.g., in the ITU and CSTD) concerning Enhanced Cooperation on > Globally Applicable Public Policy Principles? > > ii. Can GAC members help us to understand the objectives and prospects > of the various other proposals that have been advanced in the ITU (some of > which could be taken up by its October 2010 Plenipotentiary Conference) > concerning such topics as the provision of registry services, the > harmonization and coordination of ccTLD policies, internationalized domain > names, the interface between international laws and treaties and Internet > governance, security and stability, IPV6, dispute resolution, and so on? Stefano (Italy): talked about IGF call for "Enhanced Cooperation". UN will decide whether to renew IGF. Acknowledged that one-state-one-vote creates unpleasant "market for votes". Mark (UK): seeing lots of pressure from ITU to enter I-gov space. European view is that would be beyond ITU mandate to lead in policy formation. ITU wants to become a registry and to allocate IPv6 addresses, but EU states will object and say ITUs mandate and skills do not support that move. Unkown: IGF is part of the Tunis package on "enhanced cooperation". Both will be discussed at CSTD. Last ITU Plenipot adopted resolution that ITU has a role in internet policy setting. Thomas (Germany): Enhanced Cooperation is a wide term and involves us all. ITU's desire to be a registry should be discussed here in the GAC. Govts elevated role here in ICANN should relieve pressure from ITU. At same time, competition should make each stronger. Fiona (US): ITU is 191 governments. What are GNSO concerns about the ITU? You should go back to your own governments with your concerns. Bertrand: Some actors in the ITU don't even want to hear the word ICANN. Stephane: thank you for quality of answers today. Bill Drake (NCUC): our questions are motivated by what we hear in international fora. We don't really know which of these points are worthy of our taking them on board. For instance, many govts are advocating globally applicable principles, but what does that mean for ICANN? We'd like to hear from govts who participate in both the ITU and ICANN. Jamie Wagner: both have a role but one is primary and one is secondary. ICANN is working now as a mechanism for enhanced cooperation. Zahid Jamil (BC): we need to avoid making emerging governments feel left behind by the ICANN process. Nigeria: developing nations are given more prominence at ITU/UN. ICANN's communications to developing nations is not as strong as ITU. ITU is a treaty-making organization. ICANN is not. ITU controls spectrum; ICANN controls IP. There must be a point of handshake. Unknown: convergence of telecom and internet makes telecom regulators very nervous. ITU nations feel ICANN has not given them the right answers. ICANN vs ITU conflict will become livable once ICANN becomes more internationalized and every govt participates equally in the GAC. Inside ITU there is a difference of opinion about whether ITU should get into Internet governance. I believe ICANN should handle IP numbers and DNS. Bertrand: we've never had this kind of discussion between GAC and GNSO. Please continue the dialog.

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Notes from GAC meeting with ICANN Staff on new gTLD program
by Steve DelBianco March 7, 2010

March 7, 2010

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On site 'huddle' open to CSG - remote participation for Mon at 6 p.m. and Tuesday
by Marilyn Cade March 7, 2010

March 7, 2010

On Monday the 6 p.m. 'huddle' will be in Impala, and on Tuesday, in Tsavo Annex 2, Ground Floor at 6 p.m. The bridge for MONDAY is below/Tuesday will be forwarded separately. Here are the dial-in details for: Monday March 8th 6:00-7:00 Impala Passcodes: Participant: 1385274 Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0489 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4854 1-800-009-646 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0956 1-800-009-646 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1956 1-800-009-646 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7725 1-800-009-646 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5235 1-800-009-646 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8211-1378 1-800-009-646 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-80-004 0800-677-079 BELGIUM 32-2-401-7012 0800-4-9773 BRAZIL 0800-7610709 CHILE 1230-020-2471 CHINA* 86-400-810-4743 10800-712-1185 10800-120-1185 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156479 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-06 800-700-159 DENMARK 45-7014-0229 8088-5346 ESTONIA 800-011-1092 FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-156 0-800-1-12318 FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-156 0-800-1-12318 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-67 080-563-9648 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-67 080-563-9648 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-75-25-91 080-563-9648 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20599 0800-101-2179 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0630 00800-12-5998 HONG KONG 852-2286-5624 800-968-767 HUNGARY 06-800-15230 INDIA 000-800-852-1209 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3492 IRELAND 353-1-431-9674 1800-992-641 ISRAEL 1-80-9214131 ITALY 39-02-3600-0507 800-985-846 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4755 00531-12-1423 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5146 00531-12-1423 LATVIA 8000-2933 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1305 MALAYSIA 1-800-80-8114 MEXICO 001-866-761-6529 NETHERLANDS 31-20-713-3466 0800-020-3473 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4633 0800-445-270 NORWAY 47-21-59-00-05 800-11825 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072096 PERU 0800-53765 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3702 POLAND 00-800-1210066 PORTUGAL 8008-12795 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-9763011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9189 800-120-4141 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-07 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-93386 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1044 00798-14800-6315 SPAIN 34-91-414-08-12 800-099-807 SWEDEN 46-8-506-92-118 0200-897-066 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-4209 0800-000-663 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7338 00801-137-557 THAILAND 001-800-1206-65077 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9007 0800-279-9198 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3207 0800-279-9198 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2107 0800-279-9198 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7098-0710 0800-279-9198 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1407 0800-279-9198 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3427 USA 1-210-795-0464 866-617-1530 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3717

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Policy update from Nairobi: Saturday 6-March
by Steve DelBianco March 6, 2010

March 6, 2010

Just a quick policy update from Nairobi during Saturday¹s meetings. ICANN Staff is giving a presentation to GNSO members today, regarding several critical policy issues: > 1. EOI status update > 2. Resolving outstanding issues >> a. Trademark protection >> i. Trademark clearinghouse >> ii. URS >> iii. Post-Delegation Dispute Resolution Procedure (PDDRP) >> b. Malicious conduct >> i. Zone file access >> ii. High security zone TLD >> c. Economic analysis >> d. Root Zone scaling > 3. Completing the Applicant Guidebook >> a. Registry Restrictions Dispute Resolution Procedure (RRDRP) >> b. IDN 3-character requirement >> c. IDN variants >> d. Evaluation criteria: benchmarking of registry operations >> e. Registry agreement >> i. Vertical integration >> ii. Process for future amendments The ICANN staff slide presentation is attached and at http://nbo.icann.org/meetings/nairobi2010/presentation-gnso-gtld-update-06ma r10-en.pdf A transcript will be posted at http://nbo.icann.org/nbo/documents?tid[]=172&tid[]=354 -- Steve DelBianco Executive Director NetChoice http://www.NetChoice.org and http://blog.netchoice.org +1.202.420.7482

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Re: [bc-gnso] BC position EOI
by martinsutton＠hsbc.com March 5, 2010

March 5, 2010

I add a thumbs up to the BC position document too. Thanks Philip. Kind regards, Martin Martin Sutton Manager, Group Fraud Risk and Intelligence Ph: ++44 (0)20 7991 8074 Mob: ++44 (0)777 4556680 Sent from my BlackBerry ********************************* HSBC Holdings plc Registered Office: 8 Canada Square, London E14 5HQ, United Kingdom Registered in England number 617987 ********************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Kawaguchi [skawaguchi(a)facebook.com] Sent: 05/03/2010 09:32 PST To: Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard(a)aim.be>; "bc-gnso(a)icann.org" <bc-gnso(a)icann.org> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] BC position EOI Facebook supports the Final draft of the EOI position document. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Inc. 1601 S. California Avenue Palo Alto, CA Phone - 650 485-6064 Cell - 650 387 3904 NOTICE: This email (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, or retransmit the email or its contents." From: owner-bc-gnso(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:30 AM To: bc-gnso(a)icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] BC position EOI Thank you for the last round of comments. Our 14 day process is almost complete and I wanted to send a copy of our paper so that BC colleagues in Nairobi will have a position to speak to. I attach a version three factoring in the last round of comments / support. This includes all substantive contributions of content though not all of the style suggestions. Us rapporteurs should be free to retain that element! For good order I also attach a clean version 3 and have entitled it "final" to facilitate any external communication in Nairobi. Philip ----------------------------------------- SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions.

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by Marilyn Cade March 4, 2010

March 4, 2010

Dear BC members Attached is an update regarding the upcoming ICANN meeting in Nairobi. Several BC members are arriving on Friday night and earlier, and will be on ground in Nairobi, at a few different hotels. You can keep in touch with me by email and I'll ensure that everyone gets any communications from you. Sunday night's dinner, if you are coming to Nairobi, is organized and sponsored by one of our own members, so if you haven't rsvp'd, please do so immediately. It is a separate event that involves the Kenyan business community. Monday has the opening ceremony and speech by the President, which you should plan to attend, to hear more about Rod Beckstrom's focus. The EIO session on Monday will have Zahid Jamil as a panelist, along with others, and the BC's position will be reflected from the floor, as well as by Zahid. A Session on Affirmation of Commitment Reviews is scheduled next, followed by a session on Trademark Protection in new gTLDS, where Zahid Jamil will be a panelist. Monday at 6 p.m., we will have our first 'huddle' which now will include the IPC and ISPCP, and be led by Ron Andruff, BC member. The location for our 'huddles' for Monday and Tuesday night will be announced after arrival in Nairobi. The bridge for the 'huddles' will be reforwarded Monday a.m. Nairobi time. Tuesday's schedule is described in the attachment. During Tuesday's meeting of the BC, we will be allocating members to attend different sessions Wednesday and Thursday so taht we have a presence in all relevant sessions. If you are participating remotely, we will ask you to also identify which session you are participating in so that we have a broad distribution of BC members in relevant sessions. Thursday, at 8:00 a.m. the onsite Business Constituency members will 'huddle' before the public forum, to discuss the agenda items before the Board in the public forum. Individual BC members will be speaking on their individual views on various topics that will be on the Public Forum agenda. I hope that many of you who are remote participants can join the public forum and express your perspectives. The time slot is not particularly friendly, but your input is important. The Kenyan ICANN meeting is unique in many ways. We will all miss you if you are not able to come in person, but look forward to hearing from you, and keeping in contact during the meeting regarding your views. My next communication is likely to be from Kenya, but I'll be on line for a few hours yet, so do send along any questions that you have, or additional information or enhancements. The materials attached describe our confirmed speakers/and invited speakers, but is subject to change, depending on changes in confirmation. Marilyn CadeChair, BC

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BC position draft -- Working Group Guidelines
by Mike O'Connor March 1, 2010

March 1, 2010

hi all, i've volunteered to be the rapporteur for our comments on the GNSO Working-Group Guidelines. our comments are due by March 22nd so we only have about a week to review/edit this draft before we're in our 2-week approval window. my apologies for that -- i just plain ran out of daylight. i've attached a draft version of our comments for your review. if folks could give this a quick read and get edits back to me before the end of the day on Friday i will turn around a final draft for distribution next Monday, two weeks in advance of the submission deadline. here's a link to the announcement and the draft guidelines: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-05feb10-en.htm thanks! mikey - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.)

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Draft BC position EOI v2
by Philip Sheppard March 1, 2010

March 1, 2010

Thanks to BC members for their comments to date. I attach a revised version 2. Comments / expressions of support please now on this version referencing line tracking as appropriate. Philip _____ From: Philip Sheppard [mailto:philip.sheppard@aim.be] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:19 AM To: 'bc-gnso(a)icann.org' Subject: Draft BC position EOI For 14 day comment I have been asked by the new VP policy coordination Steve DelBianco to act as rapporteur for the issue of Expressions of Interest in the context of the new gTLDS process. I attach a proposed draft for the Constituency. Its argumentation and consequent conclusion is based on the submissions of Bc members in their individual capacity to the public comments process. These comment were significant in their commonality. In short all commentators believed that: - the EOI is a poor substitute for data gathering and an economic study - the EOI is bad business practice as it requires investors to invest in ignorance of issues that ICANN is obliged to solve. Comments, improvements are most welcome ideally by e-mail bullet points referencing the line numbers rather than Word tracked changes. This makes the job of the poor rapporteur much easier ! Philip

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WADO & Kenyan Business Community Reception
by Ron Andruff Feb. 27, 2010

Feb. 27, 2010

Dear Members, As we get closer to the Nairobi meeting, and in light of Gary having his last day of his extension (vis-à-vis the BC elections) on Monday, I wanted to note two things. First, I want to encourage everyone who is planning on attending, as well as those that plan to get on the call-in line, to let Gary know by COB Monday so that we who are going to Nairobi can have an understanding of who will be present and who will be joining by phone. This leads to my second point, which is, we who are present have a wonderful opportunity to engage with Kenyan business at the reception that WADO and its associates in Nairobi are staging on Sunday night. The BC has put on a number of events like this, but this time I am excited that WADO is engaged because we should be looking forward to a good turnout from Kenyan business. As we all know, the BC needs to expand its membership roll on a broad global scale, so I am hopeful that this upcoming event will be a first step in making outreach a serious part of our new structure. For these reasons, I underscore how important it is to let Gary or our Chair know if you will be attending or not. Kind regards, RA

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RE: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated VI Charter for review by SG/Constituencies
by Berry Cobb Feb. 25, 2010

Feb. 25, 2010

BC, I apologize for mistakenly supplying the wrong deadline to the BC. The Friday 2/26 date is for the VI DT to submit the charter to the council. The constituencies have until 15:00 UTC 2/25. To meet the VI DT deadline I submitted the BC position formulated to date, as noted in a previous email. If there are any objections to the proposed charter, please provide them to me and I will ensure the VI DT is notified. Again, my apologies for the confusion. 30 Lashes to Berry and lesson learned. Berry A. Cobb Infinity Portals LLC 866.921.8891 From: Berry Cobb [mailto:berrycobb@infinityportals.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 22:28 To: 'bc-gnso(a)icann.org' Subject: FW: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated VI Charter for review by SG/Constituencies Importance: High BC, This is a reminder that comments and support for the Vertical Integration Draft Chart are due back to the drafting team by Friday 2/26. Please take a moment to review and respond. As mentioned below, we are seeking supporting comments for version #2 of Objective 5. NCUC & NCSG lists have already consulted and commented in favor of version #1. http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-vi-feb10/msg00215.html Please let me know if you have any questions or require clarification. Thank you. Berry A. Cobb Infinity Portals LLC 866.921.8891 From: owner-bc-gnso(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Berry Cobb Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 14:56 To: bc-gnso(a)icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated VI Charter for review by SG/Constituencies BC Team, Attached is the draft Charter for the upcoming Vertical Integration PDP. To submit for GNSO Council approval, we have an ask for expedited review, approval, and return to VI DT. We have until 25 Feb 2010 to complete the constituency review. Please pay special attention to Objective #5. Within the VI DT there was much debate about this objective. We are looking confirm support for the 2nd option of Objective #5. It is important that an analysis be performed to identify and understand the range of effects that this change may have. The first objective bypasses this important analysis. If you require reference to the Wiki or Mailing List, here they are: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-vi-feb10/ https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi?vertical_integration_pdp Please advise Mike Rodenbaugh or I if you have any questions or need further clarification. Thank you for your prompt attention to this. Berry A. Cobb Infinity Portals LLC 866.921.8891 From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@icann.org] On Behalf Of Margie Milam Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 13:56 To: Gnso-vi-feb10(a)icann.org Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated VI Charter for review by SG/Constituencies Dear All, Attached is the updated Charter that includes Kristinas alternate proposal for Objective 5. As Stéphane indicated, please review this version with your constituencies/stakeholder groups and provide your groups comments by no later than 15 UTC Thursday February 25th. Please make sure to note the version of Objective 5 that you prefer. Best Regards, Margie ____________ Margie Milam Senior Policy Counselor ICANN ____________

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