March 2008 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

ICANN Wants To End Commerce Dept. Oversight In 2009
by Jeffrey A. Williams March 8, 2008

March 8, 2008

All, I seriously doubt that ICANN will be moving to Switzerland or released from DOC/NTIA oversight any time soon or in or by the end of 2009. Many of our members outside of the US believe such a change would create chaos worse than anyone can likely imagine for the Internet. FYI: http://www.thestandard.com/people/i-lamont550036 ICANN's current Joint Project Agreement with the US Commerce Department is set to expire in September of 2009, and ICANN wants to become more autonomous and http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/03/07/icann-looks-toward-end-us-agreem… switch to a global governance model, says ICANN's executive officer. The agreement between the nonprofit ICANN and the Commerce Department has been in place since 1998, and was renewed in 2006 http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/29/1843254&tid=95 despite international protests. A few US-based groups named in the article including the Center for Democracy and Technology, the trade group TechNet and a conservative think tank iGrowthGlobal would like the agreement with the Commerce Department to continue, in part to provide 'accountability. ' The ICANN officer quoted in the article says expiration of the Commerce Department agreement would not remove accountability, as ICANN still has a contract with the US to operate the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority and must follow California law governing nonprofits. The Register is running a related story about http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/05/us_kills_european_based_cuba_websit… why some people are uncomfortable with the United States' influence on ICANN. We discussed ICANN's http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/24/1241232&tid=266 request for independence a few months ago. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Domain Tasting News
by Danny Younger March 8, 2008

March 8, 2008

You may recall that Dell and Alienware Corp. filed a federal complaint against BelgiumDomains, CapitolDomains, DomainDoorman, and others on October 7, 2007... so you may be wondering if this filing managed to impact domain tasting... The results are in. The November .com registry report shows a massive drop in tasting activities -- down from 56,195,866 in October to 30,454,736 in November. In the October report, the belgium/capitol/doorman group accounted for 41,605,036 deletes... that dropped to 13,415,139 in the November report. Those tracking these matters may also wish to keep their eyes on UltraRPS dba metapredict whose deletes are rapidly escalating on a month-by-month basis. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Happy Women's Day!!!
by Veronica Cretu March 8, 2008

March 8, 2008

Dear ALAC/AtLarge Colleagues! This is to bring the warmest wishes for ALL Women on ALAC/AtLarge, ALL WOMEN within the ICANN community and not only:) ... with the International Women's Day and with the Spring! In our part of the world, we do celebrate March the 8th and it is an important holiday for us, so this is to share with you the spirit of the coming Holiday! « You can do almost anything you put your mind to ... ... You can swim the deepest ocean and climb the highest peak, ... Be a doctor or fly a plane, ... You can face adversity and still walk tall, ... You can be very active in ALAC/AtLarge and ICANN Community:), ... You are strong, beautiful, compassionate and much more than words could ever say! Today is yours, and so is every other day!» Happy Women's Day to all mothers, wives, daughters, sisters and everyone else we have close at heart! Happy Holiday from Moldova, as ever, Veronica

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Weekly posting summary for alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Total of 87 messages in the last 7 days. Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 39.08% | 34 | 44.11% | 118758 | jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com 10.34% | 9 | 6.04% | 16249 | franck.martin at gmail.com 5.75% | 5 | 7.42% | 19972 | nick.ashton-hart at icann.org 3.45% | 3 | 8.46% | 22773 | carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com 4.60% | 4 | 6.63% | 17842 | jefsey at jefsey.com 4.60% | 4 | 5.06% | 13630 | jam at jacquelinemorris.com 3.45% | 3 | 5.39% | 14507 | dthompson at gov.nu.ca 4.60% | 4 | 3.63% | 9775 | dannyyounger at yahoo.com 4.60% | 4 | 1.91% | 5148 | johnl at iecc.com 2.30% | 2 | 1.34% | 3607 | khaled.koubaa at gmail.com 2.30% | 2 | 1.13% | 3031 | evan at telly.org 1.15% | 1 | 2.21% | 5946 | vanda at uol.com.br 1.15% | 1 | 1.58% | 4247 | parminder at itforchange.net 1.15% | 1 | 1.05% | 2828 | staff at alac.icann.org 1.15% | 1 | 0.67% | 1807 | roberto at icann.org 1.15% | 1 | 0.62% | 1657 | jsalgueiro at cantv.net 1.15% | 1 | 0.45% | 1199 | michele at blacknight.ie 1.15% | 1 | 0.40% | 1076 | patrick at vande-walle.eu 1.15% | 1 | 0.39% | 1040 | staff at atlarge.icann.org 1.15% | 1 | 0.37% | 986 | derek at aa419.org 1.15% | 1 | 0.36% | 969 | roessler at does-not-exist.org 1.15% | 1 | 0.35% | 955 | veni at veni.com 1.15% | 1 | 0.30% | 797 | bfausett at internet.law.pro 1.15% | 1 | 0.15% | 406 | jerry_scott47 at yahoo.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 87 |100.00% | 269205 | Total

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Missing ALAC links
by Jeffrey A. Williams March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Nick or whomever is responsible, Link to http://www.icannalac.org/ from https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi shows http://www.icannalac.org/ does not exist. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Update: Domain Tasting Resolution
by Danny Younger March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

The GNSO Council will be discussing the following motion tomorrow: Whereas, the GNSO Council has discussed the Issues Report on Domain Tasting and the Final Outcomes Report of the ad hoc group on Domain Tasting; Whereas, the GNSO Council resolved on 31 October 2007 to launch a PDP on Domain Tasting; Whereas, the GNSO Council authorized on 17 January 2008 the formation of a small design team to develop a plan for the deliberations on the Domain Tasting PDP (the Design Team), the principal volunteers to which had been members of the Ad Hoc Group on Domain Tasting and were well-informed of both the Final Outcomes Report of the Ad Hoc Group on Domain Tasting and the GNSO Initial Report on Domain Tasting (collectively with the Issues Report, the Reports on Domain Tasting); Whereas, the GNSO Council has received the Draft Final Report on Domain Tasting; Whereas, PIR, the .org registry operator, has amended its Registry Agreement to charge an Excess Deletion Fee; and both NeuStar, the .biz registry operator, and Afilias, the .info registry operator, are seeking amendments to their respective Registry Agreements to modify the existing AGP; The GNSO Council recommends to the ICANN Board of Directors that: 1. The applicability of the Add Grace Period shall be restricted for any gTLD which has implemented an AGP (Applicable gTLD Operator). Specifically, for each Applicable gTLD Operator: a. During any given month, an Applicable gTLD Operator may not offer any refund for any domain names deleted during the AGP that exceed (i) 10% of its net new registrations in that month (defined as total new registrations less domains deleted during AGP), or (ii) fifty (50) domain names, whichever is greater. b. A Registrar may seek an exemption from the application of such restriction in a specific month, upon the documented showing of extraordinary circumstances. For any Registrar requesting such an exemption, the Registrar must confirm in writing to the Registry Operator how, at the time the names were deleted, these extraordinary circumstances were not known, reasonably could not have been known, and were outside of the Registrars control. Acceptance of any exemption will be at the sole reasonable discretion of the Registry Operator, however "extraordinary circumstances" which reoccur regularly will not be deemed extraordinary. c. In addition to all other reporting requirements to ICANN, each Applicable gTLD Operator shall identify each Registrar that has sought an exemption, along with a brief descriptive identification of the type of extraordinary circumstance and the action (if any) that was taken by the Applicable gTLD Operator. 2. The above restriction on use of the Add Grace Period shall be considered an ICANN adopted specification or polic[y] prohibiting or restricting warehousing of or speculation in domain names by registrars in accordance with Section 3.7.9 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement. As such, a Registrar that engages in domain tasting, defined as using the AGP to register domain names in order to test their profitability, shall be deemed in material breach of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement. 3. Implementation and execution of these recommendations shall be monitored by the GNSO. Specifically; a. ICANN Staff shall analyze and report to the GNSO at six month intervals for two years after implementation, until such time as the GNSO resolves otherwise, with the goal of determining; i. How effectively and to what extent the policies have been implemented and followed by Registries and Registrars, and ii. Whether or not modifications to these policies should be considered by the GNSO as a result of the experiences gained during the implementation and monitoring stages, b. The purpose of these monitoring and reporting requirements are to allow the GNSO to determine when, if ever, these recommendations and any ensuing policy require additional clarification or attention based on the results of the reports prepared by ICANN Staff. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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ALAC subscription info FAQ's/education
by Jeffrey A. Williams March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Jacqueline and whomever this does or should concern, The public subscription information to which I subscribed is at: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org It states that said subscription is a private list and that is is for "The worldwide community of ICANN At-Large discussion forum" http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo shows clearly that ALAC is for the "At-Large Worldwide Community". Does this broaden your education as well as provide some specificity to same as well? OR is the information/documentation on the above mentioned links not accurate? I freely yet again admit as well as wonder if the ALAC list is a private list and yet is for: "The worldwide community of ICANN At-Large discussion forum" such *may* be a poor discription of what the ALAC list is for or said listed documentation is intentionally inaccurate, or even your discription as well as Darlene's earlier crude and frustrated earlier retort of similar here:http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org/… are not in agreement with said documentation and thereby both of you are not accurate in your assumptions/statements as such. As such, and in any event public or private lists for the purposes of public user subscription and participation in an @large user representation in accordance with the MOU in this case would seem at a minimum to be conflicting and/or confused in fact. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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From DNForum.com, please read - Phishing legislation concerns
by Jeffrey A. Williams March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

All my friends, FYI: > Dear DNF members, > > We feel it is our duty to bring this to light and make people aware of > what's happening. As you may have heard, Senator Olympia Snow (R-ME) has > very recently introduced a bill that could threaten the future of the > domain name industry and internet commerce. Snowe's bill has been > introduced as the "Anti-Phishing" bill, but contains provisions that are > largely unrelated to these objectives. These provisions radically and > unnecessarily expand the rights of trademark owners to essentially provide > them with monopoly rights on registered trademarks. This would be to the > detriment of millions of individuals and businesses engaged in lawful and > legitimate Internet commerce. > > > If the bill passed through congress, it may allow large businesses to take > domain names with little to no effort. Trademark owners already prevail in > 85% of all UDRP complaints and nearly 100% of all ACPA cases. Yet some > apparently now wish to establish a new regime for contesting allegedly > infringing? domains that is tilted even more in their favor by denying > basic due process and substantive protections to domain name registrants > and that provides the possibility that they can use their power and > influence to sway public officials to expend taxpayer dollars in defense > of private Intellectual Property Rights (IPRs). > > > The proposal unfairly targets domain name registrants for a widespread > Internet practice if it's aim is to halt the advertising monetization of > brand names and typographical variations thereof when consumers engage in > direct Internet navigation or in web searches it utterly fails in that > endeavor, as this activity is also engaged in systematically by search > engines, web browsers and ISPs. > > > We need to do as much as possible to make sure the bill is revised to > serve it's purpose of preventing phishing scams and not to bury domain > name owners. Please sign the petition at http://www.SnoweBill.com to help > in the fight and to review all portions of the bill. > > Thank you for your time and attention in this matter. > There are several big discussions taking place right now at > http://www.DNForum.com - please visit the site and perform a search for > "Snowe" to view the threads. > > Regards, > DNForum.com Staff > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] Motion for ALAC board
by Jeffrey A. Williams March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

JFC and all my friends, It is illogical an incompatible with transparency, openness, and accountability to have closed and open list for the same discussions as well as a violation of the MOU accordingly. Ergo, your suggestion seemingly is designed to thwart what the ALAC is suppose to be all about as well as seeks to squelch diverse or opposing views and opinions from being recognized and/or heard. JFC Morfin wrote: > At 12:50 06/03/2008, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: > > From the ALS listing on alac.icann.org, INEGroup is not an accredited ALS. > >There were regional ALS-only lists created previously, but most were > >discontinued last year by request, as the number of mailing lists > >was huge and, some felt, unmanageable. > >The problem with client-side monitoring as Evan suggests is > >bandwidth for people in locations with low and expensive bandwidth. > >I can set up all sorts of rules on my computer, but then I still > >have to download the mail before it gets to implement those rules. > >Same problem if I want to implement rules on my server (if my server > >is locally hosted, and if I even have access to so do) > >The ALAC rules exist and the Chair has indicated that it will be > >considered, so I look forward to the ALAC decision, and hopefully a > >more streamlined and productive list with fewer distractions. > >My $0.02 > >Jacqueline > > Dear Jacqueline, > The true problem is as you say the low/costly bandwidth users. > Roberto Gaetano experimented a solution at the DNSO/GA years ago with > a filtered version of the list which matched that requirement. > However, at the same time we must stay democratic and we cannot > filter out anyone. This is why I plead for two different membership > lists, filtering debates through two non restricted lists: > - one list internal to the ALAC where shared responsibility for > monitoring and accepting posters will depend on ALS Chairs. > - one list external to the ALAC welcoming every interested @large. > It is likely that interesting topics brought up on the second list > will also be discussed on the internal list in order to get an ALAC > common position. One way to stay in tune and transparent would be > that Members of the second list can receive the mails of the first > list. They would answer them on the second list. If some of their > point is of interest for the internal list, internal list members > will comment, making their colleagues informed. I feel this double > list system might respect the rights and expectations of everyone and > could be simple to set-up and manage. > > jfc > > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Draft Summary Minutes for 14 February 2008 ALAC Session Published
by At-Large Staff March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

Dear Members: Please be advised that the summary minutes of the final At-Large Advisory Committee meeting in New Delhi have just been published at https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?meeting_summary_14_february_2008. Note that due to the technical issues in the room, there are breaks in the minutes. If those present could add in any of the missing segments I¹d be most grateful; my apologies for this but you¹ll remember how challenging the technical issues were at this session. -- Regards, ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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