January 2014 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Feb. 14, 2014

Feb. 14, 2014

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Redelegation of the domain representing Mali to the Agence des Technologies de l'Information et de la Communications
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Feb. 4, 2014

Feb. 4, 2014

Dear All, Thanks to Dev who pointed out this morning that the Board will be considering the Redelegation of the domain representing Mali to the Agence des Technologies de l'Information et de la Communications, see: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/agenda-03oct12-en.htm I wonder whether ISOC Mali or At Large in general holds a view on the above. Kind Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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France IGF / FGI France 2014
by Sébastien Bachollet Feb. 2, 2014

Feb. 2, 2014

Dear Colleagues, I wanted to make sure everyone on this list knew about the French IGF (the first regional IGF in France), in Paris on March 10. Attendance is free of course, but registration is compulsory: http://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-forum-de-la-gouvernance-internet-fgi-fran ce-10329039435?aff=estw The event is supported by local civil society and business, the French government and the French registry AFNIC. As member of the organizing committee I will be happy to answer any questions anyone may have, and hope to see many of you there! All the best, http://fgi2014.fr https://www.facebook.com/FGIFrance?fref=ts https://twitter.com/FGIFrance Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien(a)bachollet.com>

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Re: [At-Large] Traditional Cultural Expressions #ICANN #WIPO
by Hong Xue Jan. 31, 2014

Jan. 31, 2014

In the cases of AMAZON and PATAGONIA, it was primarily the relevant governments' power over Geographic Names that prevails. It has triggered forceful debates about whether GNs are really subject to governmental power or sovereignty. Remember the research report presented by the AU professors at Durban Public Forum? In addition, the government did not really interfere these 2 GN applications, largely through GAC, until the late stage, while the local user community had had filed many protests and oppositions at the ICANN. So I assume it would be a good idea, as Sala suggested, for ALAC/at-large to research the "community right" over the traditional cultural expressions in the NEXT round (if any) of new gTLD expansion program. It seems clear that the so-called community objection procedure barely woks. FYI, WIPO has been working on this issue for a decade and hopefully there would be a breakthrough 2014 in the negotiation of the "draft provisions/articles on protection of TCE and TK". I'm pretty sure that protection of TCE in DNS has not yet been contemplated in the international lawmaking. So the research could be timely and useful. What do you think to proceed to do the research? Forming a working group or it can be done through new gTLD WG? Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com>wrote: > Yes. And how does AMAZON and PATAGONIA fit in here? > > Seth > > -----Original Message----- > From: at-large-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Satish Babu > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:38 PM > To: At-Large Worldwide > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Traditional Cultural Expressions #ICANN #WIPO > > Dear Sala, Wolf and all > I too agree on the need to ensure that cultural heritage remains in the > public domain. It would be interesting to study this problem in greater > depth and suggest to our communities how we could support them. > > > > > > satish > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Wolf Ludwig > <wolf.ludwig(a)comunica-ch.net>wrote: > > > this is just to confirm that I entirely agree with your elaborations > > and thoughts below on "how to protect traditional knowledge and > > indigenous communities" from any usurpation by the right-holders > > industry. Some of us may recall stories about traditionals like "In > > the jungle ..." and related rights disputes -- see: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_Sleeps_Tonight > > > > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7043 - Release Date: 01/29/14 > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >

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Traditional Cultural Expressions #ICANN #WIPO
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Jan. 30, 2014

Jan. 30, 2014

Dear All, Some of you may remember the *ALAC statement on Community Priority Evaluation Guidelines* that was unanimously passed. There are certain developments within on moves to protect Traditional Cultural Expressions through WIPO etc. To see the developments in WIPO and the Draft Articles in this area, in English, Spanish, French and Russian, visit: http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/doc_details.jsp?doc_id=245543 As you can imagine, the At Large community has many people who have an interest in this space either from community based concerns in the protection of such expressions etc. A little known fact is that Vanda Scartazeni used to head and manage Brazil's equivalent of the United States Trademark and Patent Office (USPTO). There are others in the At Large community who have been involved in various Intellectual Property linked matters such as Hong and Seth etc. Instead of always being reactionary to public policy debates and dialogue, it is critical that issues such as Traditional Cultural Expressions and protections in the wake of lack of appropriate mechanisms be protected as captured within the spirit of the Statement of the ALAC. Strategies should be deployed within At Large on how to best protect them. Care should be taken to protect "traditional knowledge" and "indigenous communities" that may not have the technological savvy to navigate the systems effectively. For example, should Louis Vuitton decide to apply for .maasai and where a Maasai Elder is in the process of protecting their traditional name. Ron Layton of Light Years IP argues that the Maasai brand is worth $10million. See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22617001 Intellectual Property and Traditional cultural expressions have been the subject of global discussions as early as 1967 when there was an amendment to the *Berne Convention for the Protection of Artistic and Literary Works*for the protection of unpublished and anonymous works. Best Regards, Sala

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Re: [At-Large] Traditional Cultural Expressions #ICANN #WIPO
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Jan. 30, 2014

Jan. 30, 2014

Dear Wolf, Satish, Seth and All, Now that we agree - the next question is in how we deal with the matter. Certainly there should be a study done in this area that is in depth to allow us to have an informed view and develop a strategy to protect TCEs. On the question on "Amazon" and Pantagonia", if there was a study commissioned care should be taken to frame the scope of the study. This also depends on how we perceive Geographical names and there are two possible views: View 1: They fall under TCEs or under Geographical names that may have a link to culture View 2: They do not fall under TCEs This then leads to the more questions: 1) what is the scope of TCEs 2)how should we define them in the context of what is relevant for ICANN? 3) Is the Draft Article in WIPO in keeping with At Large's view of TCEs? Kind Regards, Sala On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com> wrote: > Yes. And how does AMAZON and PATAGONIA fit in here? > > Seth > > -----Original Message----- > From: at-large-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Satish Babu > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:38 PM > To: At-Large Worldwide > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Traditional Cultural Expressions #ICANN #WIPO > > Dear Sala, Wolf and all > I too agree on the need to ensure that cultural heritage remains in the > public domain. It would be interesting to study this problem in greater > depth and suggest to our communities how we could support them. > > > > > > satish > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Wolf Ludwig > <wolf.ludwig(a)comunica-ch.net>wrote: > > > this is just to confirm that I entirely agree with your elaborations > > and thoughts below on "how to protect traditional knowledge and > > indigenous communities" from any usurpation by the right-holders > > industry. Some of us may recall stories about traditionals like "In > > the jungle ..." and related rights disputes -- see: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_Sleeps_Tonight > > > > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7043 - Release Date: 01/29/14 > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >

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Message for AFRINIC, AFRALO and spotlight on Tunisia
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Jan. 29, 2014

Jan. 29, 2014

Dear AFRALO and its Executives (Aziz Hilali, Mohammed El Bashiri, and Phillip Johnson), and AFRINIC - Adiel, *SAFNOG* South Africa has just formed a new Network Operators Group called SAFNOG and they will be holding their first operational and technical meeting on 22-23 April, 2014 at the Sandton Hilton Hotel in Johannesburg in South Africa. See: www.safnog.org *Brief Encouragement* Secondly, I just want you to know that as a fellow global citizen and colleague that Africa and its diversity and struggles is not forgotten. As I hear and read reports of massive displacement, vulnerable communities, religious wars, food crisis in some parts, civil war in Central Africa, South Sudan, it makes me appreciate the various support structures such as AFRINIC and all the ALSes in Africa all the more. No one country is more important than the other in Africa and all are equally important. Thank you for the work that you do! I continue to be impressed with the level of commitment and contribution by your communities in global public processes despite the challenges in your immediate environments. *Tunisia and remembering the Fruit Vendor and Acknowledging our People* I am also very pleased to hear the good news of what is happening in Tunisia and it is for this reason that I would like to shine the spotlight on Tunisia to commend them and you AFRALO by extension for the amazing work you continue to do in Africa. I would like to take this time congratulate Tunisia for its ratification of a new democratic institution and the installation of an independent government to lead the country towards new elections. This month also happens to be the third year anniversary when a fruit vendor sparked a revolution that set the country on a path to democracy. The installation of a new, independent government under the leadership of Prime Minister Mehdi Jomaa is an important step to ensure that the country has competent and non-partisan leadership during the period leading to the next election. As you transition to democracy, it will no doubt set the tone for the environment in which internet governance and access issues for the people of Tunisia. In the middle of extreme circumstances and environment to see people like Tijani Ben Jemaa and Dhouha Bayassarou and many others from Tunisia who continue to contribute to global public processes by sacrificing their time, energy. Tunisia and Egypt were among the first countries in this decade to witness the Arab Spring and a massive revolution. If it were not for the seedbed of that frustrated fruit vendor, the masses in Tunisia would have still accepted the oppression. As Tunisia celebrates its democratic transition let us not forget the fruit vendor and people like Tijani who continue to strive to bring development to Africa. Tijani is a fierce advocate for "access" for the people of Africa; he continues to fight for meaningful participation and access. Special congratulations to the Tunisian Association of Internet and Multimedia and Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations. This ALS like its counterparts, daily contributes to their national development by facilitating trainings, creating awareness. The Tunisian Association of Internet and Multimedia has been active in various forums such as WSIS, IGF, ICANN, ITU etc. I would like to congratulate you on your many achievements but more importantly on the great step to transitioning to democracy so that the death of that one fruit vendor three years ago is not in vain. Wishing Tunisia and the whole of Africa well! With every best wish, Sala *(Fiji)*

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Announcement: At-Large Board Director Slate of Candidates Selected by the BCEC and Next Steps
by ICANN At-Large Staff Jan. 28, 2014

Jan. 28, 2014

Dear All, On behalf of the At-Large Board Candidate Evaluation Committee (BCEC), and in accordance with the agreed schedule for the At-Large Board Member Selection Timeline, we are pleased to announce the names of the slate of candidates to fill Seat #15 of the ICANN Board. These candidates have passed the initial BCEC evaluation and were approved on their call of Tuesday, 21 January 2014. Their names were announced to the ALAC by Olivier Crépin-Leblond on 28 January 2014. The candidates, listed in alphabetical order of their family name are: * Rinalia Abdul Rahim * Sebastien Bachollet * Alan Greenberg * Evan Leibovitch * Jean-Jacques Subrenat The other applicants who submitted Expressions of Interest (EOIs), listed in alphabetical order of their family name are: · David Allnutt · Bobbie Lloyd · Varol Senel One applicant withdrew their EOI during the BCEC evaluation period. The RALOs are now asked to consider whether any of the applicants who submitted EOIs but were not selected by the BCEC should be added to the final slate of candidates. In order to be added to the final slate, an applicant must be supported by three RALOs. The deadline for support from other RALOs for additional candidates is Friday, 21 February 2014. Please see the relevant text of the ALAC ROPs below: 19.9 Final Candidate List 19.9.1 -Following the publication of the BCEC slate of candidates, RALOs have an opportunity to suggest adding candidates to that list. The timetable should allow for consultations and outreach both within and among RALO's. 19.9.2 - RALOs can only suggest candidates who had previously submitted an EoI to the BCEC during the current selection process. 19.9.3 - Candidates will be added only if they receive support through a formal vote of at least three of the five RALOs, each RALO voting according to its respective rules. The final slate will be announced on Sunday, 23 February 2014. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>>

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Fwd:Fadi's interview in Davos
by Carlton Samuels Jan. 27, 2014

Jan. 27, 2014

FYI ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= Fadi's interview with the Huff Post Live at Davos. Here is the link -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/fadi-chehade-davos_n_4635949.html

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Conflicts between End User vrs Global Public Interest
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Jan. 25, 2014

Jan. 25, 2014

Dear All, *Global Public Interest vrs End Users* I have changed the Subject of the thread to emphasize the apparent conflict that stems from global public interest versus end users. This has been challenging particularly for the At Large community as has been expressed by Evan and others where it comes to processes. Olivier had mentioned that the lack of definition is of concern. Karl raised an important point about context shaping meaning. There have been on multiple occasions where this dialogue has taken place. I would recommend that a Study be done by the ALAC work highlighting a list of instances within ICANN where as a community, the At Large feels that it has been marginalised. This can certainly be in the context of the gTLD Objection process or in the Auction processes but also other aspects of ICANN where we feel that global public interest has been undermined. It is in identifying all the potential conflicts and trying to understand the root of the problems that we can begin to discuss solutions. No doubt, we have people like Evan and others who have vast institutional memory and can be good resources to draw from. *Recommendation for At Large Leadership Team* It would also be useful for At Large Leadership Team to commission an In Depth Study, analysis of the issues. The discussions is also central to maintaining legitimacy so that the At Large and the ALAC are not just token participants but stewards and watchdogs of global public interest. Kind Regards, Sala On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Karl Auerbach <karl(a)cavebear.com> wrote: > On 01/23/2014 09:17 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote: > > > I am particularly concerned with the narrow definition of "community", > > "Internet community", "end user community" - or in fact as their lack of > > definition. > > Let me respond to that particular point rather than the previous focus > of this thread. > > There may well be not one community but rather multiple communities. > And people may move between these communities from instant-to-instant > depending on what they are doing at that instant. > > I have observed that over the last few years that there has been a > significant shift in the way that users perceive this thing we all call > "the internet" (with or without a capital 'I'). > > For many of us who have been around for a while we see the internet as a > system that moves IP packets from computer interface with an IP address > to another computer interface with an IP address. We are the packet-heads. > > But for many people who arrived more recently the perception of the net > is of a bag of applications. > > We packet heads tend to be very concerned about end-to-end principles > and neutrality of packet flows. > > The latter community may focus more on matters of openness, fairness, > portability, and reliability of those applications without much regard > to the underlying plumbing. (And one might consider that the interests > of those who use applications are somewhat different than those who > create and deploy applications.) > > I would note that to the latter community, IP addresses and domain names > may be submerging to become hidden machinery and are being replaced by > URL/URI based names or application specific names [such as Facebook > logins.] I believe that this shift in naming/addressing will eventually > significantly alter our internet governance needs. > > The interests of these groups are one of those Venn diagrams with > overlapping circles - there is an area of mutual concern but also large > areas where each group has its own concern. > > I am far from suggesting that these groups form different "stakeholders" > - that is because I abhor the concept of top-down pre-defined groups of > interest called "stakeholders". > > However, I do feel that we could gain a bit of clarity if we were begin > to recognize that the word "internet" has different meanings to > different people and that to best understand opinions we need to > comprehend the context from which those opinions arose. > > My sense is that we will find that as a result opinions that seem in > opposition, if the context is understood, might actually be opinions > that are in alignment, or at least not in conflict. > > --karl-- > > __ >

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