July 2019 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Re: [At-Large] ATLASIII Participation
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 17, 2019

Oct. 17, 2019

Carlton, Greg beat me to it, but it is not an issue of travel as a "benefit". It is a resource, and all we are saying is that if we are to allocate that resource to a specific person, then we expect that it will be well used. The issue of electing/selecting someone for a position and then not having them deliver quite a different one, although again there *may* be travel funding involved. And yes, if we have someone who does not deliver and then select them again, there is a problem, and one I think that we need to address, but that sadly, many others feel that we should not, and simply heed the will of the electors who seem to at times reward the behaviour that some of us would like to punish (whether we have the tools or not). As you or someone said in a previous message, travel is a tool that facilitates volunteer contributions, nothing more or less. But it is a tool constrained by resources available and we should ALWAYS be paying attention to using our resources in a way that benefits At-Large and ICANN. That applies to travel, just as it applies to the extremely valuable resource of time donated (ie at no monetary cost to us or ICANN) by our volunteers. Neither should be squandered. Alan At 09/07/2019 10:07 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote: Hi Roberto: Funny enough, we are closer to total agreement than you imagine. You see, your second paragraph got to the heart of the issue. What to do when the job is not done? My response is to tell the same persons to their face that they did not contribute much. And, message the folks who elect them as representative as much. It's like electing a common fool for president and we blame the fool and not the voters who pulled the lever for the fool. In my corner of empire we tend to elect crooks, never fools. So we know what is our problem. I'm suggesting we can fix those problems without dangling travel or other funding as benefits to be removed as punishment. Especially if it devalues your efforts and mine. I have seen volunteers struggle to assimilate and articulate a position on an issue. I have seen so-called tourist travelers mature and make useful contributions. It is a crap shoot. So, I want to reinforce the fact that not everybody is interested in every topic the At-Large gets all bothered about. Indeed, I have seen a few that IMHO, isn't worth a bucket of warm spit to the end user that we allegedly represent in names and numbers policy matters. Not everybody need be interested in every topic to be a volunteer. Whosoever will may come. And, we can help them find their way in....or out. Best Carlton On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, 5:47 pm Roberto Gaetano, < roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi Carlton. As usual, we agree on some things and we disagree on other. I fully support your view that travel, in particular when tickets are provided at the lowest possible cost - which implies also the lowest level of comfort and service - is not a benefit but "the tool that it is to get a job done”. Where we disagree is what to do if and when the job is not done. IMHO, ALAC does not have just the option, but the duty, to analyse whether the limited funds should be allocated in a different way to maximise the result. That is, as you correctly put, "to get a job done”. Incidentally, if ALAC does not monitor the fund allocation and show that there is no waste, ICANN will do. And I personally don’t like at all this outcome. But since I am well-known for making examples that are a bit extreme, and sometimes drive people mad, please allow me to be up to my reputation and mention this case. These days in Italy there are a couple of cases of public administrations, including a public hospital, where employees have been caught being repeatedly absent from work while colleagues were clocking them in and out. Am I the only one who sees similarities? Cheers, Roberto On 09.07.2019, at 23:14, Carlton Samuels < carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear John: I know you mean well. But I must register my profound and utter disagreement with you here. And, on principle. At-Large representatives are volunteers. Largely. I am seethe at this indignity that a measure of my voluntarism connects to me flying somewhere to volunteer my time, my energy, my intellectual capital and yes, my labour, all as public goods. I would not wish to be so judged. And what is proposed is nothing but an episode of the slave's torment; doing what he thinks would appease his master by providing the hog grease for the leather whip that stipes his own back. I came to this opposition from bitter experience. It started when I was the only elected LACRALO official. And in a period when travel was dangled as a benefit to volunteers. I couldn't give a tinker's damn since by that time I had already racked up 2 million plus airmiles. And traveling steerage class is not my idea of a fun time. In that period of time, LACRALO arguably provided the most egregious examples of the ICANN tourist traveler. And I suffered the slings of my northern metropolitan colleagues for vehemently opposing sanctions on the then LACRALO ALAC representatives. [I am ever grateful to Evan for supporting me on principle!] My argument was those persons behaved badly as individuals. I told them so. One has hated me to this day. But inspite of him, I adamantly refused to support travel sanctions against them. That action reinforces that rather louche idea that travel is a benefit rather than the tool that it is to get a job done. And to hypothecate the tool as security for work to be done seems immoral to me. Value is assigned my time and intellectual capital by others; I sell them for fee. I got home less than 2 hours ago from Suriname. Most in this thread would likely not even know where that is. it is a hump to get to. And, somebody paid me for that. As a volunteer, my time, intellectual capital and my own coin have been placed in trust and in the service of the At-Large. An airplane ticket in steerage does not begin to compensate me as volunteer. It is no benefit to me or for me. It is rude and crude to suggest, must less legislate, that it is. My position has not changed in these many years because the same response offends reason and conscience. It is for the At-Large constituents to pick representatives. And this seemingly Pavlovian response proffered is and remains a bad policy idea. It is inimical to the spirit of volutarism - real voluntarism! - that premises the At-Large engagement. Best, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 AM John Laprise <jlaprise(a)gmail.com<mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com>> wrote: I would like us all to consider consequences for ATLASIII participants who travel but do not participate (excepting reasons of illness etc). This is a serious, professional responsibility and should be treated as such. For a start, I would suggest that participants who fail to participate should be ineligible for funding and elections for 3 years. I look forward to conversation on this topic leading to action by the ALAC. Sent from my Pixel 3XL John Laprise, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<http://atlarge.icann.org/> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<http://atlarge.icann.org/> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Universal Acceptance
by Judith Hellerstein July 30, 2019

July 30, 2019

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RACI Call for Applications / deadline August 7th
by Joanna Kulesza July 26, 2019

July 26, 2019

FYI (apologies for unavoidable crossposting): -------- RACI Call for Applications -------- The RIPE Academic Cooperation Initiative (RACI) is again looking for talented academics in the field of Internet technology. Successful applicants receive complimentary tickets, travel and accommodation to the meetings and the opportunity to present their research. If you are working on something interesting, please apply! https://www.ripe.net/raci You can apply for the following two meetings by submitting an abstract and draft slides by *7 August*: - RIPE NCC Regional Meeting (24-25 September, Kyiv) - RIPE 79 (14-19 October, Rotterdam) Examples of relevant research topics include: - Network measurements and analyses - IPv6 deployment - BGP routing - Network security - Internet governance - Peering and interconnectivity - Internet of Things RACI mailing list: https://www.ripe.net/raci/mailing-list Twitter: https://twitter.com/raci_ripe RACI LinkedIn Group: https://www.ripe.net/raci/linkedin -- Kind regards, Joanna Kulesza ------------------- Joanna Kulesza, PhD University of Lodz, Poland ALAC / EURALO / Capacity Building Working Group Co-Chair SOI: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Joanna+Kulesza+SOI TT: @KuleszaJ

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PhD positions in Maastricht / deadline July 28th
by Joanna Kulesza July 26, 2019

July 26, 2019

FYI (feel free to contact Gijs directly for further details): At Maastricht University, we are hiring Ph.D. students (two or three). Candidates will be offered the opportunity to collaborate with legal researchers and computer scientists, and to apply (and learn) computer science methods and solutions in a legal context. The research will take place within the Maastricht Law & Tech Lab, an exciting and vibrant community that deploys both legal scholars and computer scientists, who meet and form interdisciplinary teams that work at the intersection of Law and Data Science. The Lab works in close collaboration with the Institute for Data Science, the Department of Knowledge Engineering, and the Brightlands Institute for digital Smart Society (BISS). Cutting-edge research and an inspiring environment are ensured. The vacancy can be found here: https://www.academictransfer.com/en/284523/two-or-three-2-3-phd-positions-o… (deadline 28 July 2019). Feel free to circulate this message within your network, and to contact me for more information about the positions. *Gijs van Dijck * gijs.vandijck(a)maastrichtuniversity.nl *Professor of Private Law* Maastricht European Private Law Institute (M-EPLI) <http://www.mepli.eu/> Maastricht Law & Tech Lab <https://www.maastrichtuniversity.nl/law-and-tech-lab> Business Intelligence & Smart Services (BIS <https://www.biss-institute.com/> SSRN <http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=353577> -- Kind regards, Joanna Kulesza ------------------- Joanna Kulesza, PhD University of Lodz, Poland ALAC / EURALO / Capacity Building Working Group Co-Chair SOI: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Joanna+Kulesza+SOI TT: @KuleszaJ

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by narten＠us.ibm.com July 26, 2019

July 26, 2019

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WEBCAST TODAY: USA Internet Governance Forum in Washington DC #IGFUSA
by Joly MacFie July 25, 2019

July 25, 2019

Plenty to talk about at the IGF-USA this year! If you weren't lucky enough to score a ticket the real time text feeds are a great way to keep up. [image: IGF-USA 2019] <https://www.igf-usa.org/igf-usa-2019/>Today, *Thursday July 25 2019*, the annual *USA Internet Governance Forum <http://usa%20internet%20governance%20forum%20%28igf-usa%29/>* (IGF-USA) takes place in Washington DC. IGF-USA 2019 includes panels on panels on Techlash, privacy frameworks, digital inclusion, competition, artificial intelligence, platform content moderation, and 5G. Keynoters are *Ambassador Robert L. Strayer* – Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Cyber and International Communications and Information Policy, , and *Commissioner Christine S. Wilson* – Federal Trade Commission. The entire event, including breakout tracks, will be webcast live on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel* <https://www.igf-usa.org/igf-usa-2019-video/> with open captions (RTT), sponsored by *Afilias <https://afilias.info/>*. *What: 2019 USA Internet Governance Forum <http://usa%20internet%20governance%20forum%20%28igf-usa%29/> (IGF-USA)Where: Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington DCWhen: Thursday July 25 2019 8:30am-5pm EDT | 12:30-21:00 UTCProgram: https://www.igf-usa.org/igf-usa-2019-program/ <https://www.igf-usa.org/igf-usa-2019-program/>Webcast: https://www.igf-usa.org/igf-usa-2019-video/ <https://www.igf-usa.org/igf-usa-2019-video/>Room A Video: https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/igfusa2019/ <https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/igfusa2019/>Room A RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=CFI-IGFUSA-A <https://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=CFI-IGFUSA-A>Plenary and Room B Video: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/igfusa2019/ <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/igfusa2019/>Plenary and Room B RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=CFI-IGFUSA-B <https://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=CFI-IGFUSA-B>Room Video V: https://livestream.com/internetsociety3/igfusa2019/ <https://livestream.com/internetsociety3/igfusa2019/>Room C RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=CFI-IGFUSA-C <https://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=CFI-IGFUSA-C>Twitter: #igfusa https://priv.sh/EKoW3DZ <https://priv.sh/EKoW3DZ>* *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11231/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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WEBCAST MON–WED: Africa DNS Forum in Gaborone #AFDNSF2019 #AFDNSF
by Joly MacFie July 23, 2019

July 23, 2019

We have just started day 2 on this. Yesterday's sessions are archived on the link. The connection does drop occasionally. [image: livestream] <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/afdnsf2019>The 7th edition of the *Africa Domain Name System Forum <https://dnsforum.africa/>* (AFDNS) will be held in Gaborone, Botswana from *22nd to 24th July 2019* with the theme '*Building Trust in the African DNS Industry for a Thriving Digital Economy*'. Organized by the *Africa Top Level Domains Organization <http://www.aftld.org/>* (AFTLD), the *African Registrars Association <http://www.afregistar.org/>*, and the* Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers <https://www.icann.org/>* (ICANN), the objective of the three-day event is to help the Africa Domain Name Industry grow at a competitive rate; and ensure that the continent is on par with the rest of the world. Discussions will cover the state of the domain name industry in Africa, opportunities and challenges faced by businesses, entrepreneurs and Internet users across Africa. *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/afdnsf2019 <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/afdnsf2019>* *PROGRAM: https://dnsforum.africa/programme/ <https://dnsforum.africa/programme/> (UTC+2)* *TWITTER: #AFDNS2019 https://bit.ly/afdnsf2019 <https://bit.ly/afdnsf2019>* *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11228/ -------------------------------------------------------------- - -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by narten＠us.ibm.com July 19, 2019

July 19, 2019

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WEBCAST TODAY: SF Bay Area ISOC ICANN 65 Recap Webinar
by Joly MacFie July 16, 2019

July 16, 2019

Webinar from earlier today - a good opportunity to catch up on some of the developments at ICANN 65. If you already know what ISOC and ICANN are, you can skip the first 13 minutes of intro. [image: livestream] <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/icann65sf> Today, *Tuesday July 16 2019* the *SF-Bay Area Internet Society Chapter <https://www.sfbayisoc.org/>* and the *Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers <https://icann.org/> *(ICANN) present a recap of *ICANN's 65th public meeting <https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech65>* held in Marrakesh, Morocco from 24-27 June 2019. Featured speakers: *Leah Symekher*, SF Bay ISOC NARALO Representative / ICANN NomCom Delegate; *Chris Mondini*, VP, Stakeholder Engagement for North America, ICANN; *Joe Catapano*, Manager, Stakeholder Engagement for North America, ICANN; *Fatema Kothari*, San Francisco Bay Area ISOC Chapter, President; *Susannah Gray*, San Francisco Bay Area ISOC Chapter, Advisor to the Board. The webinar will be simulcast on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/>*. *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/icann65sf <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/>* *TWITTER: #ICANN65 @SFBayISOC https://bit.ly/icann65sf <https://bit.ly/iann65sf>* *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11209/ - -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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ATLASIII Participation
by John Laprise July 15, 2019

July 15, 2019

I would like us all to consider consequences for ATLASIII participants who travel but do not participate (excepting reasons of illness etc). This is a serious, professional responsibility and should be treated as such. For a start, I would suggest that participants who fail to participate should be ineligible for funding and elections for 3 years. I look forward to conversation on this topic leading to action by the ALAC. Sent from my Pixel 3XL John Laprise, Ph.D.

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