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Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
by John Horton Sept. 4, 2014

Sept. 4, 2014

Hi everyone, Just thought I'd jump in on this. While I don't want to deign to speak for .HEALTH (or .PHARMACY), since we'll be involved in the monitoring, thought it might be helpful to explain the envisioned approach, and also how LegitScript's monitoring program works. Basically, the general philosophy is that anything that's currently okay in the offline world is going to be permitted online as well. It's not intended to be more or less restrictive, but just to reflect what's already required as per existing healthcare-related regulations. Obviously, it depends on the product in question: prescription drugs tend to have stricter requirements than supplements, for example, in most countries. What's restricted or permitted also varies by country or local jurisdiction. One important point is that it's not US-centric, as one poster seemed to think could be the case. If the website is offering products to Japan, for example, then they have to adhere to whatever Japanese laws and regulations apply to the sale of those products. If they are selling to resident of India, then they have to follow those laws and regulations. But unless they are shipping drugs or other regulated products to the US, they wouldn't be bound by US laws and regulations. (If a healthcare product merchant is legal in three jurisdictions but shipping to five jurisdictions, then there is a really easy answer: stop shipping to the two jurisdictions where you aren't operating legally.) That's no different than what's required in the offline world as well, e.g., for a brick-and-mortar pharmacy. On our end, we already monitor healthcare merchants in multiple jurisdictions around the world (China, Korea, Japan, Ireland, France, Germany, Indonesia, Thailand, Canada...the list goes on), applying the laws and regulations that are appropriate to each circumstance, so we see it as pretty straightforward. Obviously, it would be not only impractical, but also unfair, to require a healthcare merchant in Sweden legally selling to Scandinavian jurisdictions to comply with US laws and regulations (in fact, it would be impossible). Unfortunately, the online healthcare space is one that does benefit from some monitoring -- there have been multiple deaths and adverse events from fake drugs, tainted supplements, that sort of thing. So, both of those TLDs are intended to be a safe space where Internet users can know that the seller is operating in accordance with the laws and regulations that they are supposed to, just by looking at the TLD. That seems to us to be a good thing. But, the Internet is a global space, and it's definitely not US-centric or based on any one countries' laws and regulations -- rather, it's jurisdictionally flexible based on the circumstance in question. Hope that helps to clarify. John Horton President, LegitScript *Follow LegitScript*: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com> | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/LegitScript> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/legitscript> | YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/user/LegitScript> | *Blog <http://blog.legitscript.com>* | Google+ <https://plus.google.com/112436813474708014933/posts>

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Watch UN SIDS Conference LIVE
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Aug. 31, 2014

Aug. 31, 2014

Dear All, The UN SIDS Conference can be accessed and watched remotely via UN TV, see: http://webtv.un.org/ Kind Regards, Sala

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Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 31, 2014

Aug. 31, 2014

John, Thanks for participating in this dialogue with us and providing just a bit more clarity. Alan At 31/08/2014 12:45 PM, John Horton wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Just thought I'd jump in on this. While I don't want to deign to speak for >.HEALTH (or .PHARMACY), since we'll be involved in the monitoring, thought >it might be helpful to explain the envisioned approach, and also how >LegitScript's monitoring program works. > >Basically, the general philosophy is that anything that's currently okay in >the offline world is going to be permitted online as well. It's not >intended to be more or less restrictive, but just to reflect what's already >required as per existing healthcare-related regulations. Obviously, it >depends on the product in question: prescription drugs tend to have >stricter requirements than supplements, for example, in most countries. > >What's restricted or permitted also varies by country or local >jurisdiction. One important point is that it's not US-centric, as one >poster seemed to think could be the case. If the website is offering >products to Japan, for example, then they have to adhere to whatever >Japanese laws and regulations apply to the sale of those products. If they >are selling to resident of India, then they have to follow those laws and >regulations. But unless they are shipping drugs or other regulated products >to the US, they wouldn't be bound by US laws and regulations. (If a >healthcare product merchant is legal in three jurisdictions but shipping to >five jurisdictions, then there is a really easy answer: stop shipping to >the two jurisdictions where you aren't operating legally.) That's no >different than what's required in the offline world as well, e.g., for a >brick-and-mortar pharmacy. On our end, we already monitor healthcare >merchants in multiple jurisdictions around the world (China, Korea, Japan, >Ireland, France, Germany, Indonesia, Thailand, Canada...the list goes on), >applying the laws and regulations that are appropriate to each >circumstance, so we see it as pretty straightforward. Obviously, it would >be not only impractical, but also unfair, to require a healthcare merchant >in Sweden legally selling to Scandinavian jurisdictions to comply with US >laws and regulations (in fact, it would be impossible). > >Unfortunately, the online healthcare space is one that does benefit from >some monitoring -- there have been multiple deaths and adverse events from >fake drugs, tainted supplements, that sort of thing. So, both of those TLDs >are intended to be a safe space where Internet users can know that the >seller is operating in accordance with the laws and regulations that they >are supposed to, just by looking at the TLD. That seems to us to be a good >thing. But, the Internet is a global space, and it's definitely not >US-centric or based on any one countries' laws and regulations -- rather, >it's jurisdictionally flexible based on the circumstance in question. > >Hope that helps to clarify. > >John Horton >President, LegitScript > > > >*Follow LegitScript*: LinkedIn ><http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com> | Facebook ><https://www.facebook.com/LegitScript> | Twitter ><https://twitter.com/legitscript> | YouTube ><https://www.youtube.com/user/LegitScript> | *Blog ><http://blog.legitscript.com>* | Google+ ><https://plus.google.com/112436813474708014933/posts> >_______________________________________________ >At-Large mailing list >At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
by Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Aug. 31, 2014

Aug. 31, 2014

Dear Rosa, thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone. It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote: > Dear Olivier and Dev, > > Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls > find below an interesting link. > Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by > the ALAC > All the best, > Rosa Delgado > > > *Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* > DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial > new gTLD .health. > > http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and-afilias… >

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Beyond NETmundial e-book released
by William Drake Aug. 31, 2014

Aug. 31, 2014

Hello Apologies in advance if you receive this notice from more than one list, but in case anyone is coming to the IGF and wants some reading for the plane, I thought I would share the below. On Day 0, Monday 1 September, a group of partners have organized an event called, NETmundial: Looking Back, Learning Lessons and Mapping the Road Ahead. http://sched.co/1r7K8s3 It will run from 9:00 - 18:30 in Workshop Room 02 (Rumeli Ground Floor / Room B2), and the IGF Secretariat informed me yesterday that remote participation will be available via the IGF website, albeit in “test mode.” As part of this event, from 14:30-16:00 there will be an e-“book” launch of a project I coordinated. Authors who will be speaking will include myself and Jeremy Malcolm (EFF), Markus Kummer (Internet Society), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Carlos Affonso Pereira de Souza (ITS), Emma Llansó and Matt Shears (CDT), Wolfgang Kleinwächter (U. Aarhus), and perhaps one or two others. In advance of the launch discussion, the book has been released today. Please see the announcement below. We hope you find the material useful. Best, Bill Beyond NETmundial: The Roadmap for Institutional Improvements to the Global Internet Governance Ecosystem explores options for the implementation of a key section of the “NETmundial Multistakeholder Statement” that was adopted at the Global Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance (NETmundial) held on April 23rd and 24th 2014 in São Paulo, Brazil. The Roadmap section of the statement concisely sets out a series of proposed enhancements to existing mechanisms for global internet governance, as well as suggestions of possible new initiatives that the global community may wish to consider. The sixteen chapters by leading practitioners and scholars are grouped into six sections: The NETmundial Meeting; Strengthening the Internet Governance Forum; Filling the Gaps; Improving ICANN; Broader Analytical Perspectives; and Moving Forward. The book was produced as a part of the Internet Policy Observatory, a program at the Center for Global Communication Studies (http://www.global.asc.upenn.edu/) the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania. It was edited by William J. Drake of the University of Zurich and Monroe Price of the Annenberg School for Communication. They were assisted by Laura Schwartz-Henderson, Briar Smith, and Alexandra Esenler. You can view the publication here: http://www.global.asc.upenn.edu/app/uploads/2014/08/BeyondNETmundial_FINAL.… *********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake(a)uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake(a)gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************

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Off-topic: Invitation to participate in the Orientation Session IGF 2014
by Fatima Cambronero Aug. 29, 2014

Aug. 29, 2014

*(Apologies for cross posting)* Dear All, You are invited to participate in the IGF 2014 Orientation Session to be held on Day 1 -September, 2, from 9:30 to 11:00 in the Main Meeting Hall. More information here: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/main-focus-sessions/1914-orientation-session And here: http://igf2014.sched.org/event/3e99b7802e37508efae856e6df2e2e6e#.VACkN2NPwix Orientation sessions are intended for both newcomers to the IGF and those who are already involved but would need to get a more holistic view of Internet governance. It gathers experts, fellows, decision-makers and practitioners to engage meaningfully by discussing actors and topics related to Internet governance. The session will be interactive, educative, inclusive, at the same time creative and fun, it will be open but also guided in order to be effective. We will be discussing several issues like the history of WSIS and IGF and mandate of the IGF; the role of the diplomacy in the global Internet governance; the main IG-related process and actors involved; how to navigate the IGF to get the best out of it and for it; how to stay involved with the IGF and IG process beyond IGF2014, among others interesting topics. We will have among the panelists members of the IGF Secretariat, MAG members, regional and global leaders on Internet governance issues, IGFers experienced from governments, academia, civil society, private sector and technical community. Please join us and share your questions, experiences and comments to build together the best IGF for all of us! Best Regards, Fatima, on behalf of the MAG Capacity Building track -- *Fatima Cambronero* Abogada-Argentina Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 Twitter: @facambronero Skype: fatima.cambronero

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Aug. 29, 2014

Aug. 29, 2014

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IGF 2014 and UN SIDS Conference
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Aug. 28, 2014

Aug. 28, 2014

Dear All, I trust that you are all excited as I am about this year's IGF. There are three pressing things requiring my attendance all within the span of the same time - the IGF and the South East Asia Computer Confederation Executive meeting in Sri Lanka. As it takes quite some time to travel from the South seas to the North, my current responsibilities demand my maximizing efficiency, although I know the IGF is going to be pretty awesome. I will be streaming in from the Pacific. I will say this though, we have got some developmental initiatives in the Pacific lined up that is going to be pretty dynamic in terms of advancing development and I am excited about the future of the Internet in the Pacific. Whilst I cannot be there at the IGF in person this time, I will be participating remotely. For those of you who have friends who will be attending the UN SIDS conference, kindly invite them to attend the ICT for Sustainable Development Side event. We (University of the South Pacific) are organising a Side Event at the this year's* United Nations Small Islands Developing States* Conference called: ICT for Sustainable Development Date: *4th September 2014* Time: *11:00am - 12:30pm* Venue: CR1 Faleata Sports Complex Apia, Samoa For more information, kindly contact USP's ICT Outreach Coordinator - Mr Sakaio Manoa on manoa_s(a)usp.ac.fj With every best wish, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro

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Aberystwyth Internet Jurisdiction Symposium - Sep 10-11
by Joly MacFie Aug. 28, 2014

Aug. 28, 2014

It has come to my attention (Thanks, Judith!) that Aberystwith U. (Wales) are holding an Internet Jurisdiction Symposium on Sep 10-11 http://www.aber.ac.uk/en/internet-jurisdiction/ They are going to stream it live to a couple of other Universities, and are actively recruiting more locations. http://www.aber.ac.uk/en/internet-jurisdiction/participation/. It is not clear whether there will also be a public livestream. j -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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WEBCAST TODAY: WEF NETmundial Initiative Initial Scoping Meeting in Geneva
by Joly MacFie Aug. 28, 2014

Aug. 28, 2014

This is well underway. You can go back down the live timeline to catch up. . Look to the tweets for some summary. It seems with Tim B-L and others sounding cautious notes about preserving openness the outlook is generally positive. Myself I am tuned into the AfPIF <https://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/AfPIF2014day3/> but in my brief visit to the livestream I heard Fadi announce "CYBERSPACE IS DEAD!"... joly posted: "As a followup the NetMundial meeting in Brazil in April 2014 the World Economic Forum has initiated the NETmundial Initiative for Internet Governance Cooperation & Development. Today Thursday 28 August 2014 they are holding the Initial Scoping Meeting" [image: WEF Netmundial] <https://webcasts.weforum.org/widget/1/NETmundial?p=1&pi=1&ms=1&th=2>As a followup the *NetMundial* <http://netmundial.br/> meeting in Brazil in April 2014 the *World Economic Forum* <http://www.weforum.org/> has initiated the *NETmundial Initiative for Internet Governance Cooperation & Development* <http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_1NetmundialInitiativeBrief.pdf>. Today *Thursday 28 August 2014* they are holding the *Initial Scoping Meeting* <https://webcasts.weforum.org/widget/1/NETmundial?p=1&pi=1&ms=1&th=2> in Geneva with leaders from government, business, civil society and academia. *Participants <http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_4NETmundialListofParticipants.pdf>* include *Kathryn Brown* of the Internet Society, *Fadi Chehadé* of ICANN, *Tim Berners Lee* of WWWF, *Hamadoun Touré* of the ITU, and *Lawrence Strickling* of the NTIA. It is being webcast live the WEF Livestream Channel. *What*: *NETmundial Initiative Initial Scoping Meeting <https://webcasts.weforum.org/widget/1/NETmundial?p=1&pi=1&ms=1&th=2>* *Where*: Geneva Switzerland *When*: Thursday 28 August 2014 0900-1800 CEST | 0700-1600 UTC *Agenda*: http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_3NETmundialInitiativeLaunchAgenda.pdf *Webcast*: http://new.livestream.com/wef/events/3320009 *Twitter*: #netmundial <https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%23netmundial&src=typd> Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/6931#respond> See all comments <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/6931#comments> *Permalink*: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/6931 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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