May 2008 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] ICANN News Alert emails
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

Nick and all, Apologies accepted. However this is what happens when amatures attempt to configure software, especially poorly desinged and insecure software. This is also how IDtheft can be effected as well. I can only hope no one responded to those Emails. I surely did not. Kieren, I believe you are required by law to report this incident as a potential data breach. Please do so, or I shall. -----Original Message----- >From: Nick Ashton-Hart <Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org> >Sent: May 20, 2008 1:21 AM >To: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Asia-Pacific Discuss <apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, LAC Discuss <lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] ICANN News Alert emails > >Dear All: > >My apologies for the number of emails received today from the ICANN News Alert system. My intention was to automate a task which is currently manual - we have been forwarding these emails to the lists ourselves manually for months now, and my hope was that connecting the news alerts to the regional and global At-Large list would simply make this automatic. > >Unfortunately there were some problems as you'll have seen - the below message from Kieren relates to the problems. > >Again, our apologies. > >----- > >To ALAC mailing list subscribers, > >Sorry for the number of emails you received yesterday on the mailing list subscribing the list to the ICANN News Alerts service. This is my fault. > >ICANN's News Alert sends out an email each time an announcement of significance is added to the ICANN site. It's the same system we have been using for two years or more. In order to save staff and the community time manually resending email announcements whenever ICANN announces something, the ALAC lists themselves were subscribed to News Alerts. > >However, despite the lists being added manually to the system, it still sent a double opt-in confirmation message. The result was that a large number of people were all sent a confirmation email. Then when a number of people clicked on the subscribe option in a short period of time, this led to a number of welcome emails. > >In an effort to fix this now as fast as possible, the mailing list addresses were deleted; the welcome and confirmation options taken off, and the list resubscribed. > >But, because of US anti-spam law, while the options were taken off, the system being used still insisted on sending the double opt-in email. And then, just for good measure, resending the welcome email all over again. > >I realise that none of this is very helpful to anyone, so my apologies. The idea is still that since ICANN sends out a News Alert each time there is an interesting announcement, it is faster and more efficient for it to be sent directly to mailing lists, rather than have people notice the alert and manually resend it. > >With this hump over with, it will be possible for that to happen automatically from now on. > >Kieren McCarthy > >General manager of public participation, ICANN > >-- > >Regards, > >Nick Ashton-Hart >Director for At-Large >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 >USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637 >Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 >Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 >email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org >Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart >Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Weekly posting summary for alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

Total of 46 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri May 23 00:53:02 EDT 2008 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 4.35% | 2 | 42.73% | 375787 | denise.michel at icann.org 19.57% | 9 | 18.34% | 161269 | jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com 17.39% | 8 | 5.02% | 44173 | marc.salvatierra at icann.org 4.35% | 2 | 10.55% | 92815 | cheryl at hovtek.com.au 8.70% | 4 | 3.97% | 34875 | nick.ashton-hart at icann.org 4.35% | 2 | 4.82% | 42389 | wendy at seltzer.com 4.35% | 2 | 1.43% | 12583 | jam at jacquelinemorris.com 4.35% | 2 | 1.20% | 10556 | bfausett at internet.law.pro 2.17% | 1 | 1.37% | 12065 | matthias.langenegger at icann.org 2.17% | 1 | 1.28% | 11226 | staff at atlarge.icann.org 2.17% | 1 | 1.01% | 8916 | roberto at icann.org 2.17% | 1 | 0.84% | 7379 | frederic.teboul at icann.org 2.17% | 1 | 0.83% | 7343 | narten at us.ibm.com 2.17% | 1 | 0.75% | 6560 | khaled.koubaa at gmail.com 2.17% | 1 | 0.74% | 6530 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca 2.17% | 1 | 0.73% | 6403 | lists at privaterra.info 2.17% | 1 | 0.71% | 6275 | omar at kaminski.adv.br 2.17% | 1 | 0.68% | 5951 | jefsey at jefsey.com 2.17% | 1 | 0.63% | 5564 | joly at punkcast.com 2.17% | 1 | 0.61% | 5399 | elisabeth.porteneuve at cetp.ipsl.fr 2.17% | 1 | 0.61% | 5328 | johnl at iecc.com 2.17% | 1 | 0.60% | 5296 | patrick at vande-walle.eu 2.17% | 1 | 0.55% | 4800 | dannyyounger at yahoo.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 46 |100.00% | 879482 | Total

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Fast Flux Briefing Session
by Danny Younger May 22, 2008

May 22, 2008

Additional reading on the issue: "Internet-Draft: Double Flux Defense in DNS" http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bambenek-doubleflux-01.txt

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Re: [At-Large] Welcome to ICANN News Alert (plain text)
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 21, 2008

May 21, 2008

John and all, Spoken like a true ex-politician. Unfortunately and as usual, not so. Such may have been a "Free Trial", but was hardly free to the victims, the subscribers, us. Shows little or no consideration for users as well. Bad attitude, bad practice, bad policy, and resulting in a bad product of course... -----Original Message----- >From: John Levine <johnl(a)iecc.com> >Sent: May 19, 2008 10:17 PM >To: ICANN <marc.salvatierra(a)icann.org> >Cc: alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Subject: Re: [At-Large] Welcome to ICANN News Alert (plain text) > >I followed the link and told it to cancel our subscriptions. Maybe that >will limit the noise. > >I concur with Bret that we're lucky this was just a free trial. > >Regards, >John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", >Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor >"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] ICANN News Alert emails
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 21, 2008

May 21, 2008

Elisabeth and all, This only also confirms to the poor quality of the software being used to perform the function it is intended to perform. Garbage in, garbage out. -----Original Message----- >From: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve(a)cetp.ipsl.fr> >Sent: May 20, 2008 5:06 AM >To: patrick(a)vande-walle.eu, roberto(a)icann.org >Cc: Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org, alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Subject: Re: [At-Large] ICANN News Alert emails > > >+1 > >Elisabeth Porteneuve > >> To: Roberto Gaetano <roberto(a)icann.org> >> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:53:40 +0200 >> From: Patrick Vande Walle <patrick(a)vande-walle.eu> >> >> +1 >> >> Patrick Vande Walle >> >> On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:45:25 +0200, "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto(a)icann.org> >> wrote: >> > I might be nave, but can't we simply ask people on all mailing lists to >> > subscribe to the alerts if they are interested? >> > I, for one, receive these alerts in multiple copies, because they are >> > forwarded to multiple lists to which I am subscribed. >> > Cheers, >> > Roberto >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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FW: ICANN Multilingualism and Information Usage Survey
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 21, 2008

May 21, 2008

Dear All: Any help you can provide with the below would be greatly appreciated! ------ Forwarded Message From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:26:05 +0200 To: <icann-staff(a)icann.org> Conversation: ICANN Multilingualism and Information Usage Survey Subject: ICANN Multilingualism and Information Usage Survey Dear Colleagues: As you may have noticed, today a survey was announced on icann.org which is designed to help us all understand better what information different stakeholder communities use, in particular where their first language is not english. This is a product of ICANN's translation committee (reachable at trans-comm(a)icann.org) It is available in 11 languages including english. Needless to say, we really want to get as many responses to this as we can; it will help us all to understand the types of information most used by the existing community and it also provides us an opportunity to see what information the non-English fluent ICANN participant would use in their language(s). We hope that this survey will help us reach out to groups of people who would be more active in ICANN issues, but have not been able to participate fully due to language issues; a surveying tool was used in order to make it easy for us to gather the community's views - there is even a live link to the results available which can be found on the announcement below. The survey is also a key part of the response to the public consultation on ICANN's draft Translation Framework (available in multiple language versions from: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-13feb08.htm. Since the announcement and the survey itself is available equally in all 11 languages, we hope you will help us by forwarding the announcement text to any language communities that you know, in the language or languages that will be most relevant to them - and ask them to pass it on. The editions are as below: Arabic: http://www.icann.org/ar/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-ar.htm Chinese (simplified): http://www.icann.org/zh/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-zh.htm English: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-en.htm French: http://www.icann.org/fr/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-fr.htm Spanish: http://www.icann.org/es/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-es.htm Russian: http://www.icann.org/ru/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-ru.htm Japanese: http://www.icann.org/ja/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-ja.htm German: http://www.icann.org/de/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-de.htm Portuguese: http://www.icann.org/pt/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-pt.htm Korean: http://www.icann.org/ko/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-ko.htm Italian: http://www.icann.org/it/announcements/announcement-2-20may08-it.htm PS: If you are wondering how the languages were chosen, the answer is that they represent the 11 most popular languages in use on the Internet today. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart ------ End of Forwarded Message

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Global Survey on Multilingualism in ICANN's Work Now Online / Encuesta global sobre el multilingüismo en Trabajar ya en línea de ICANN / Enquête mondiale sur le multilinguisme dans les travaux de l¹ICANN disponible en ligne
by At-Large Staff May 21, 2008

May 21, 2008

Global Survey on Multilingualism in ICANN's Work Now Online 20 May 2008 ICANN today enabled an online survey, available in 11 languages including English, to facilitate understanding of the way in which the community uses existing materials prepared in multiple languages. It will also help ICANN understand how it could enhance multilingual access to the work of the organisation. This survey is also a key input into the public consultation process for the ICANN draft Translation Programme. The mission of the programme is to provide those who are not fluent English speakers with an equal level of access to influence and participate in the work of ICANN as those who are fluent in English. You may find more information about the Translation Programme at: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-13feb08.htm The online survey is accessible at the following URL: https://www.bigpulse.com/m1649/intro The results of the survey are be available in real-time at the following URL: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=W27JWywPJkfgK5pmusGA Note that the results available at the URL above only present the non-narrative answers of the survey. It is not presently possible to show summarized statistical results and at the same time include individual narrative responses in a way that is meaningful. The text answers will be compiled into the report prepared at the completion of the survey. The survey will remain open until 20 June 2008. -- Encuesta global sobre el multilingüismo en Trabajar ya en línea de ICANN 20 Mayo 2008 ICANN puso hoy a su disposición una encuesta en línea, disponible en 11 idiomas entre los que se incluye el inglés, con el fin de ayudar a comprender la forma en la que la comunidad utiliza los materiales existentes preparados en varios idiomas. Además ayudará a ICANN a comprender cómo podría mejorar el acceso multilingüe al trabajo de la organización. Esta encuesta supone además una aportación clave al proceso de asesoramiento público para el borrador del Programa de traducción de ICANN. El objetivo del programa es proporcionar a los que no dominan el inglés el mismo nivel de acceso que el de aquellos que dominan el inglés, para permitirles influir y participar en el trabajo de ICANN. Puede encontrar más información sobre el Programa de traducción en esta URL: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-13feb08.htm Se accede a la encuesta en línea en la siguiente URL: https://www.bigpulse.com/m1649/intro Los resultados de la encuesta estarán disponibles en tiempo real en la siguiente URL: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=W27JWywPJkfgK5pmusGA Observe que los resultados disponibles en la URL anterior solamente presentan las respuestas no-descriptivas de la encuesta. Actualmente no es posible mostrar los resultados estadísticos resumidos y a la vez incluir las respuestas descriptivas individuales de modo significativo. Las respuestas del texto se compilarán en el reporte preparado cuando se complete la encuesta. El reporte permanecerá abierto hasta al menos el 20 de Junio de 2008. -- Enquête mondiale sur le multilinguisme dans les travaux de l¹ICANN disponible en ligne 20 Mai 2008 L¹ICANN a lancé aujourd¹hui une enquête en ligne, disponible dans 11 langues dont l¹anglais, afin de mieux comprendre la façon dont la communauté utilise les documents existants traduits dans plusieurs langues. Cette enquête devrait également permettre à l¹ICANN de savoir comment améliorer l¹accès multilingue à ses travaux. L¹enquête apporte une contribution majeure au processus de consultation publique, dans le cadre de la version préliminaire du programme de traduction de l¹ICANN. La mission de ce programme est de permettre aux personnes non anglophones de participer aux développements menés au sein de l¹ICANN au même titre que leurs alter ego anglophones. Vous trouverez plus d¹informations sur le programme de traduction à l¹adresse suivante: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-13feb08.htm L¹enquête en ligne est accessible à l¹adresse suivante: https://www.bigpulse.com/m1649/intro Les résultats de l¹enquête sont disponibles en temps réel à l¹adresse suivante: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=W27JWywPJkfgK5pmusGA Notez que les résultats disponibles à l¹adresse indiquée ci-dessus présentent uniquement les réponses non rédigées de l¹enquête. Il n¹est actuellement pas possible de fournir une synthèse des résultats statistiques tout en incluant des réponses rédigées individuelles de manière pertinente. Les réponses rédigées seront répertoriées dans le rapport qui sera établi à l¹issue de l¹enquête. L¹enquête se poursuivra au moins jusqu¹au 20 juin 2008. --- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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ICANN News Alert emails
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 20, 2008

May 20, 2008

Dear All: My apologies for the number of emails received today from the ICANN News Alert system. My intention was to automate a task which is currently manual - we have been forwarding these emails to the lists ourselves manually for months now, and my hope was that connecting the news alerts to the regional and global At-Large list would simply make this automatic. Unfortunately there were some problems as you'll have seen - the below message from Kieren relates to the problems. Again, our apologies. ----- To ALAC mailing list subscribers, Sorry for the number of emails you received yesterday on the mailing list subscribing the list to the ICANN News Alerts service. This is my fault. ICANN's News Alert sends out an email each time an announcement of significance is added to the ICANN site. It's the same system we have been using for two years or more. In order to save staff and the community time manually resending email announcements whenever ICANN announces something, the ALAC lists themselves were subscribed to News Alerts. However, despite the lists being added manually to the system, it still sent a double opt-in confirmation message. The result was that a large number of people were all sent a confirmation email. Then when a number of people clicked on the subscribe option in a short period of time, this led to a number of welcome emails. In an effort to fix this now as fast as possible, the mailing list addresses were deleted; the welcome and confirmation options taken off, and the list resubscribed. But, because of US anti-spam law, while the options were taken off, the system being used still insisted on sending the double opt-in email. And then, just for good measure, resending the welcome email all over again. I realise that none of this is very helpful to anyone, so my apologies. The idea is still that since ICANN sends out a News Alert each time there is an interesting announcement, it is faster and more efficient for it to be sent directly to mailing lists, rather than have people notice the alert and manually resend it. With this hump over with, it will be possible for that to happen automatically from now on. Kieren McCarthy General manager of public participation, ICANN -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [At-Large] ICANN News Alert emails
by Elisabeth Porteneuve May 20, 2008

May 20, 2008

+1 Elisabeth Porteneuve > To: Roberto Gaetano <roberto(a)icann.org> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:53:40 +0200 > From: Patrick Vande Walle <patrick(a)vande-walle.eu> > > +1 > > Patrick Vande Walle > > On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:45:25 +0200, "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto(a)icann.org> > wrote: > > I might be nave, but can't we simply ask people on all mailing lists to > > subscribe to the alerts if they are interested? > > I, for one, receive these alerts in multiple copies, because they are > > forwarded to multiple lists to which I am subscribed. > > Cheers, > > Roberto > > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC mailing list > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > >

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Welcome to ICANN News Alert (plain text)
by ICANN May 20, 2008

May 20, 2008

Welcome! We're pleased to have you as a member of our mailing list, ICANN News Alert (plain text). This message was sent by: ICANN, 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 , Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 Powered by iContact: http://freetrial.icontact.com Manage your subscription: http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=10787322&l=6333&s=QWLJ&m=10…

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