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Re: [At-Large] [ga] VeriSign Registry Service Proposal
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 26, 2008

June 26, 2008

Danny, Chuck and all, Thank you Danny for making us all aware of this. Chuck, thank you for making us as aware as you possibly could regarding this proposal. Is this a TLD or a Domain Name? I believe you meant TLD. In any event, our INEGroup members will be very interested I am sure to review this proposal very closely and shall relay their remarks to me which I shall share as broadly as possible to ICANN staff, Bod and other constituency groups within the GNSO. -----Original Message----- >From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Jun 25, 2008 6:33 PM >To: ga(a)gnso.icann.org >Subject: [ga] VeriSign Registry Service Proposal > > >>>CHUCK GOMES: In the interest of transparency and disclosing my interests, I would like to inform you that VeriSign has submitted a registry service proposal for the allocation of single and two-character domain names. There aren't very many two-character domain names available, by the way, one. > So, unfortunately, until it's posted it is not appropriate for me to discuss the details. I can tell you that I believe that we incorporated a lot of the issues that were recommended in the comments with regard to ICANN's paper and that we think it has excellent benefit for the community. > And in fairness to ICANN staff so that we submitted it late leading up to these meeting and at a very difficult time for them to respond -- although we have had some interaction, so I don't want this to come across as a criticism to ICANN staff that it hasn't been posted. > If per chance -- and I don't know whether this will happen or not -- it is posted this week, we will be happy to talk about it and receive comments from people. > >https://par.icann.org/files/paris/Paris-GNSO-22JUN08am.txt > > > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Regarding New GTLD's: RIAA "ask" for ACTA: Online Infringring Activites
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 26, 2008

June 26, 2008

All, I believe it would be wise to read the following closely and consider where the IPC and in particular the RIAA is regarding the potential USE of new GTLD's and IDN's. http://www.keionline.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=190 RIAA Suggestions for content of ACTA These are the substantive suggestions for provisions of the ACTA that the RIAA sent to the USTR on March 17, 2008. [snip] J. Online Infringing Activities Parties shall: 1. Provide exclusive rights under copyright to unambiguously cover Internet use. 2. Establish appropriate rules regarding liability of service/content providers: (a) Establishing primary liability where a party is involved in direct infringement; and ensure the application of principles of secondary liability, including contributory liability and vicarious civil liability, as well as criminal liability and abetting if appropriate. (b) Establishing liability for actions which, taken as a whole, encourage infringement by third parties, in particular with respect to products, components and/or services whose predominant application is the facilitation of infringement. 3. Provide remedies and injunctive relief against any entity that: (a) Creates or otherwise maintains directories of infringing materials; (b) Provides "deeplinks" to infringing files; (c) Commits any act, practice or service that has little or no purpose or effect other than to facilitate infringement, or that intentionally induces others to infringe (specifically allowing proof of "intent" by reference to objective standards--i.e. a reasonable person would surmise such an intent); 4. Require internet service providers and other intermediaries to employ readily available measures to inhibit infringement in instances where both legitimate and illegitimate uses were facilitated by their services, including filtering out infringing materials, provided that such measures are not unduly burdensome and do not materially affect the cost or efficiency of delivering legitimate services; 5. Require Internet service providers or other intermediaries to restrict or terminate access to their systems with respect to repeat infringers. 6. Establish liability against internet service providers who, upon receiving notices of infringement from content provides via eÂmail, or by telephone in cases of pre-release materials or in other exigent circumstances, fail to remove the infringing content, or access to such content, in an expeditious manner, and in no case more than 24 hours; or Provide that, in the absence of proof to the contrary, an internet service provider shall be considered as knowing that the content it stores is infringing or illegal, and thus subject to liability for copyright infringement, after receiving notification from the right holder or its representative, normally in writing, including by email or by telephone in the case of pre-release materials or in other exigent circumstances. 7. Establish, adequately fund and provide training for a computer crimes investigatory unit. 8. Provide injunctive relief against intermediaries whose services are used for infringing activities regardless of whether damages are available. 9. Establish policies against the use of government networks and computers, as well as those networks and computers of companies that have government contracts, to prevent the use of such computers and networks for the transmission of infringing materials, including a ban on the installation of p2p applications except, and to the extent to which, some particular government use requires such installation. 10. Consideration to be given to the following: possible rules on data retention, the right to information giving right holders access to data held by ISPs in the preparation and course of proceedings including in civil proceedings, and availability of complete and accurate WHOIS data. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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GNSO Improvements
by Alan Greenberg June 26, 2008

June 26, 2008

The Board has approved the BGC report on GNSO restructuring with the exception of Council structure. It is creating a working group and the structure of this group has been tightly specified by the Board IT IS RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD ENDORSES THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE'S GNSO REVIEW WORKING GROUP, OTHER THAN ON GNSO COUNCIL RESTRUCTURING, AND REQUESTS THAT THE GNSO CONVENE A SMALL WORKING GROUP ON COUNCIL RESTRUCTURING, INCLUDING ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CURRENT NOMCOM APPOINTEES, ONE MEMBER FROM EACH CONSTITUENCY, AND ONE MEMBER FROM EACH LIAISON-APPOINTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IF THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO DESIRES, AND THAT THIS GROUP SHOULD REACH CONSENSUS AND SUBMIT A CONSENSUS RECOMMENDATION ON COUNCIL RESTRUCTURING BY NO LATER THAN JULY 25, 2008, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE ICANN BOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT NO LATER THAN THE BOARD'S MEETING IN AUGUST 2008. That gives the ALAC a seat on this working group. I don't know exactly how quickly it will form, but since it must report in less than a month, I expect it to be very soon, and I think it important that we be there from Day-one. I have asked that the ALAC support my being on this working group. My major goal will be to ensure that regardless of the ultimate structure, that the users and not only registrants will have a place in the Non-commercial Stakeholders group. Further refinements we can discuss over the next week. I do note that it will be an interesting challenge for us to come up with a way to create such a User Constituency, but we will face that once we have the opportunity. Alan

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[Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Direct From ICANN Paris Meeting: Surprise! TheMoney is What Matters!]
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 26, 2008

June 26, 2008

All, FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Direct From ICANN Paris Meeting: Surprise! TheMoney is What Matters! Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:53:48 -0700 From: privacy(a)vortex.com Reply-To: PRIVACY Forum Digest mailing list <privacy(a)vortex.com> To: privacy-list(a)vortex.com Direct From ICANN Paris Meeting: Surprise! The Money is What Matters! http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000394.html Greetings. Since my posting yesterday ( http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000393.html ) expressing strong distaste for ICANN's plans to vastly expand the global top-level domain (gTLD) naming system, I've received some interesting analysis and reports from the current Paris ICANN meeting itself. They boil down to one inescapable and extremely unfortunate fact. ICANN has seemingly become dangerously beholden to moneyed interests, and pretty much everyone else now gets short shrift -- to the detriment of the Internet and its users at large. I don't even really blame ICANN's people and participants for this per se -- structural problems with ICANN, some reaching back to its essentially ad hoc creation in the first place (and arguably to the death of Internet pioneer Jon Postel) have essentially guaranteed this state of affairs. While there do appear to be attendees at the Paris meeting who are concerned broadly about DNS stability under the new ICANN plan, the vast bulk of attendees see the upcoming gTLD gold rush as yet another way to line their pockets with greenbacks and euros -- the vast majority of attendees are apparently registrars and registries (and their minions) -- they know which side their bread is buttered on. Priorities at the meeting were reportedly set in the ICANN version of the Twilight Zone. While long-winded (and palpably boring) monologues restating existing positions on squeezing money out of new gLTDs took most of an afternoon, truly important issues like IPv6 reportedly got barely five minutes. One correspondent expressed to me his belief that the complicated (and still incomplete in key respects) ICANN procedures would likely keep us from being flooded with millions of new gTLDs overnight -- but implied (and I agree with this part completely) that voluminous and expensive litigation by particularly aggressive and militant applicants could result in literally any outcomes, however bizarre and disruptive to the Internet and its users -- and the world at large -- those outcomes may be. I would add that this particular correspondent took a much more upbeat stance in a public posting on a major mailing list today -- leaving out most of the strong misgivings and concerns that they expressed to me in private e-mail. I don't care to speculate on the reasons for this discrepancy. I was also blamed indirectly for the problem. Participants in Paris who bemoaned the current state of affairs regarding ICANN apparently expressed some exasperation that interested parties (such as myself) -- who are concerned about the truly important Interent issues -- haven't actively participated in the ICANN process, attended the meetings, and otherwise tried to alter the existing ICANN trajectory into a sensible course. Outside of the fact that many persons -- including me -- don't have the resources to fly around the world to frequently exotic ICANN meeting locales (at this stage, paying for gas just to get around L.A. is a concern), there is another key factor at work. With truly the greatest of respect for ICANN's hard-working people, I still would suggest that many observers of ICANN feel that its structural processes are broken in ways that cannot be significantly influenced by persons with contrarian views vs. ICANN's existing modus operandi. Many of us believe that a dramatic change in "Internet governance" is long overdue, and that this cannot be accomplished within the existing structure of ICANN, despite ICANN's best efforts. Such a belief does not engender an obvious enthusiasm for spinning wheels and fighting battles whose outcomes are usually predetermined. However, I do have a few ideas for useful new gTLDs. How about: dot-shameful dot-ripoff dot-greed dot -- oh, you get the idea. When the most accurate way to predict the outcome of controversial Internet technical issues is to employ the maxim "Follow the Money!" -- well, to call it a sad state of affairs is a supreme understatement. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren(a)vortex.com or lauren(a)pfir.org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list http://lists.vortex.com/mailman/listinfo/privacy Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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[Fwd: IGC Membership list]
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 26, 2008

June 26, 2008

All, FYI -------- Original Message -------- Subject: IGC Membership list Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:24:06 +0530 From: "Parminder Jeet Singh" <parmindersingh(a)itforchange.net> To: <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Dear IGC List Participant, We are preparing a list of members of the Internet Governance Caucus as per its charter (http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html ). The charter defines members as individuals, acting in personal capacity, who subscribe to the charter of the caucus. We request you to go through the charter and if you are willing to subscribe to it, please indicate so in reply to this email. You are requested to reply within 3 weeks (end of day July 17th, 2008) of receiving this email to get your name in the IGC members list. The members list generated at the end of 3 weeks, seen together with the condition that the member need to be subscribed to the IGC email list for 2 months prior to that date, will be used to prepare the voting list for voting for our new co-coordinator. The members list of course will remain open for any new subscription, at all times. Apart from giving your full name, you may, if you so desire, provide any affiliations etc, to help us maintain a complete list of IGC members along with some basic information about them. Thanks, and best regards. Parminder Parminder Jeet Singh Co-coordinator, IGC Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] Front Running motion passed
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 26, 2008

June 26, 2008

Bret and all, Wonderful! < sarcasm intended > So they just punted, eh? I suppose in the the Domain Name tasting non solution is yet to be implemented, the registrars and registries wanted to use Front Running as their best method of addressing the problem until of if the Domain Name tasting non solution is fully implemented across all registrars and registries which will not likely be in my lifetime. So essentially this whole process was another dog and pony show. Outstanding! < sarcasm intended > So I suppose it's time to get boned up again with those Restraint of Trade statutes, eh? -----Original Message----- >From: Bret Fausett <bfausett(a)internet.law.pro> >Sent: Jun 25, 2008 9:48 AM >To: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [At-Large] Front Running motion passed > >Dear ALAC members, > >FYI, below is a message received this morning from the GNSO Staff. I >was the designated person from the ALAC to work on this committee. If >and when the GNSO reinstates the drafting committee, let's review the >ALAC position and appointment again as well. For the time being, we >can consider the drafting committee work I was assigned to do for the >ALAC closed. > > Bret > >Begin forwarded message: > >From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen(a)icann.org> >Date: June 25, 2008 7:18:15 AM PDT >To: "mail=gnso-fr-dt(a)icann.org" <gnso-fr-dt(a)icann.org> >Subject: [gnso-fr-dt] Front Running motion passed by the GNSO Council >25 June 2008 > > >Dear All, > >The GNSO Council at its Open Meeting in Paris, today Wednesday, 25 >June 2008, unanimously passed the following motion on Front Running: > >Motion proposed by Avri Doria and seconded by Chuck Gomes > >Whereas, > >On 17 March 2008, the ICANN board referred a question about Front >Running to the GNSO council, and > >On 8 May 2008 created a drafting team to define a pre-issues research >effort and asked the staff to prepare a response to the questions, and > >On 29 May 2008 ICANN staff prepared a response >http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/front-running-staff-response-to-gnso-c… >to the question asked during the 8 May Council meeting, and whereas >this report recommended that more information was needed to proceed, and > >Information is needed to determine whether the changes recommended for >the AGP will affect front running, > >Resolved: > >The Council puts the drafting team effort on hold until such time as >current research efforts are completed. > > >Let me know if you have any questions. > >Thank you. >Kind regards, > >Glen > > > >Glen de Saint Géry >GNSO Secretariat >gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org >http://gnso.icann.org > > > >-- >Bret Fausett (skype me at "lextext") >smime.p7s is a digital signature >http://www.imc.org/smime-pgpmime.html >------------------------------------- > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Fw: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Priorities Amuck: ICANN Poised to Trigger Naming Quagmire
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 25, 2008

June 25, 2008

All, I and our members fully agree with Laurens review here. It's clear that pending the GNSO review completion that some Constituency groups, namely the IPC and the BC are interested in gaining influence before users, the NCUC, and other thus far non represented groups in the GNSO of ICANN gain influence in the decision making process of ICANN. What worries me is as Lauren points out, that security concerns for users of all types and at all levels will be facing increasing attempted criminal scams, far more additional UCE/Spam ect., and that LEA's will be facing a far greater challenge accordingly. Perhaps this is what ICANN intends vis a vi "dilution is the solution to polution" attitude? -----Forwarded Message----- >From: privacy(a)vortex.com >Sent: Jun 25, 2008 10:01 AM >To: privacy-list(a)vortex.com >Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Priorities Amuck: ICANN Poised to Trigger Naming Quagmire > > > > Priorities Amuck: ICANN Poised to Trigger Naming Quagmire > > http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000393.html > > >Greetings. With all of the high-priority issues we face today >regarding the Internet --like assuring network neutrality, or even >getting decent Internet services to the 80% of the world's >population that doesn't have them now -- it's distressing to see >that ICANN is poised tomorrow to potentially trigger a confusing and >likely highly litigious, wasteful, and disruptive land grab in new >global top-level domain names (gTLDs) -- >( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7468855.stm ). > >While ICANN's theoretical rationale for loosening up the domain name >environment is not utterly without merit, the likely real world >implications of a relative flood of new top-level domain names >should be pretty obvious to even a casual observer of the Net over >recent years. > >Everybody and his brother will want a top-level name. ICANN will be >deluged with applications. Clever crooks will find ways to game the >application and auction processes in league with shady registries. >Name confusion and phishing will rise to new heights. Full >employment for lawyers is guaranteed, as trademark disputes -- and >other legal disputes filed against ICANN's decisions regarding >particular names, balloon to capture as much oxygen as possible. >The dot-ex-ex-ex controversy and related censorship concerns >associated with the horrible idea of a sex-centric TLD will rise yet >again from the grave. > >And through it all, ICANN will be spinning its wheels with a >complicated and expensive process while so many more important >Internet issues are rotting essentially ignored on the sidelines >( http://icann.org/topics/new-gtld-program.htm ). > >ICANN needs to get over their "domain names as issue #1" fetish once >and for all. Some minor relaxation of the gTLD structure is >probably warranted, but not the waste of time, money, and other >resources that their current plan seems sure to trigger -- and we >could definitely live without the consumer confusion and risks that >will arise from this mess as well. > >Enough is enough. It's time for ICANN to get its priorities straight. > >--Lauren-- >Lauren Weinstein >lauren(a)vortex.com or lauren(a)pfir.org >Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 >http://www.pfir.org/lauren >Co-Founder, PFIR > - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org >Co-Founder, NNSquad > - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org >Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com >Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy >Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com > >_______________________________________________ >privacy mailing list >http://lists.vortex.com/mailman/listinfo/privacy Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Review Workshop at Cairo?
by Jeffrey A. Williams June 25, 2008

June 25, 2008

Izumi, Darlene and all, Sorry Izumi that you were so shabbily treated. Same for Darlene, all be in her case such was mostly of her own making. Never should anyone feel intimidated. Selective Censorship seemed to be prevelent at the below mentioned meeting. Such a practice for whatever reason is not excusable if transparency and openness is a stated principal. -----Original Message----- >From: Izumi AIZU <iza(a)anr.org> >Sent: Jun 25, 2008 3:50 PM >To: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson(a)gov.nu.ca> >Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Review Workshop at Cairo? > >Dear Darlene and all, > >trying to be engaged in productive and constructive way from >different regions, cultures and preofessional backgrounds is >always a challenge and one has to, sometimes, stand up and >do the dirty work. > >And I am also very greatful for the support you gave, Darlene. > > >2008/6/26 Thompson, Darlene <DThompson(a)gov.nu.ca>: >> Hi Izumi, >> >> I just wanted to thank you for the statement that you made about the set up >> of that meeting room. Even as a North American, I was completely >> intimmidated - so I can ESPECIALLY appreciate how it must be for other >> cultures. >> >> Thank you VERY much for bringing that up. >> >> D >> ________________________________ >> From: alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Izumi AIZU >> Sent: Wed 6/25/2008 10:54 AM >> To: At-Large Worldwide >> Subject: [At-Large] ALAC Review Workshop at Cairo? >> >> I went to the small room meeting of Board Governance Committee Working >> Group on ALAC review this morning and offered some suggestions including >> the way they moderate the session so that many non-English native speakers >> in the audience could also participate easily. That was well accepted and I >> was >> asked to offer my intervention IF and when something wrong culturally >> happens. >> >> That happened, unfortunately, as the moderator kept asking questions only >> to the members of the podium, and arbitrarily started to nominate people to >> come and get on the podium. I waited for quite a while for him to start >> accepting open comments, but that did not happen. So I flagged, asked >> the moderator for me to say something, but then rejected. In the end I was >> given, and offered the suggestion, but all in all it was not accepted. >> >> In the large room and in that fashion, it is not inclusive nor constructive >> to >> let that to happen. >> >> But it gave me some other ideas - since it is the VERY review on ALAC, >> why not ALAC organize a workshop on our own? >> >> It could be a joint session with BGC WG on ALAC, in the way most >> constructive to all, including ALSs and RALO people, as well as with >> other ICANN constituencies, at our coming Cairo meeting. >> >> Being put on the table subject to review is one thing, but cooperating >> with that process will add more value to the review and, in turn, to >> ALAC I believe. >> >> izumi >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Izumi Aizu << >> >> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita >> Kumon Center, Tama University, Tokyo >> Japan >> * * * * * >> << Writing the Future of the History >> >> www.anr.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> > > > >-- > >> Izumi Aizu << > > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita > Kumon Center, Tama University, Tokyo > Japan > * * * * * > << Writing the Future of the History >> > www.anr.org > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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ALAC Review Workshop at Cairo?
by Izumi AIZU June 25, 2008

June 25, 2008

I went to the small room meeting of Board Governance Committee Working Group on ALAC review this morning and offered some suggestions including the way they moderate the session so that many non-English native speakers in the audience could also participate easily. That was well accepted and I was asked to offer my intervention IF and when something wrong culturally happens. That happened, unfortunately, as the moderator kept asking questions only to the members of the podium, and arbitrarily started to nominate people to come and get on the podium. I waited for quite a while for him to start accepting open comments, but that did not happen. So I flagged, asked the moderator for me to say something, but then rejected. In the end I was given, and offered the suggestion, but all in all it was not accepted. In the large room and in that fashion, it is not inclusive nor constructive to let that to happen. But it gave me some other ideas - since it is the VERY review on ALAC, why not ALAC organize a workshop on our own? It could be a joint session with BGC WG on ALAC, in the way most constructive to all, including ALSs and RALO people, as well as with other ICANN constituencies, at our coming Cairo meeting. Being put on the table subject to review is one thing, but cooperating with that process will add more value to the review and, in turn, to ALAC I believe. izumi -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita Kumon Center, Tama University, Tokyo Japan * * * * * << Writing the Future of the History >> www.anr.org

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Front Running motion passed
by Bret Fausett June 25, 2008

June 25, 2008

Dear ALAC members, FYI, below is a message received this morning from the GNSO Staff. I was the designated person from the ALAC to work on this committee. If and when the GNSO reinstates the drafting committee, let's review the ALAC position and appointment again as well. For the time being, we can consider the drafting committee work I was assigned to do for the ALAC closed. Bret Begin forwarded message: From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen(a)icann.org> Date: June 25, 2008 7:18:15 AM PDT To: "mail=gnso-fr-dt(a)icann.org" <gnso-fr-dt(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-fr-dt] Front Running motion passed by the GNSO Council 25 June 2008 Dear All, The GNSO Council at its Open Meeting in Paris, today Wednesday, 25 June 2008, unanimously passed the following motion on Front Running: Motion proposed by Avri Doria and seconded by Chuck Gomes Whereas, On 17 March 2008, the ICANN board referred a question about Front Running to the GNSO council, and On 8 May 2008 created a drafting team to define a pre-issues research effort and asked the staff to prepare a response to the questions, and On 29 May 2008 ICANN staff prepared a response http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/front-running-staff-response-to-gnso-c… to the question asked during the 8 May Council meeting, and whereas this report recommended that more information was needed to proceed, and Information is needed to determine whether the changes recommended for the AGP will affect front running, Resolved: The Council puts the drafting team effort on hold until such time as current research efforts are completed. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org -- Bret Fausett (skype me at "lextext") smime.p7s is a digital signature http://www.imc.org/smime-pgpmime.html -------------------------------------

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