October 2009 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Travel Funding
by Danny Younger Oct. 8, 2009

Oct. 8, 2009

It has been about a month since the ICANN Board announced that the At-Large Community will be permitted to appoint a director to the Board, so one would have thought that there would have been an immediate flurry of on-line discussion in all of the regions in order to quickly turn this long-held dream of at-large representation into a reality. But there are no online discussions on this topic on the African list, nor on the European list, nor on the Latin American list nor on the Asia-Pacific list. It's just another ho-hum moment for those non-commercial organizations that are pretending to be the at-large in exchange for travel funding to ICANN sessions. These orgs obviously don't care about board-level representation and obviously don't care about the real at-large community -- they are pretenders; they can't be bothered to "do" anything other than to hold out their hands in anticipation of travel vouchers. Have we seen any notices posted at the local level about the upcoming at-Large director appointment? Of course not. ALS representatives can't be bothered to inform their own local communities. The whole process is a sham and always has been.

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments for 2009 - 2010
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 6, 2009

Oct. 6, 2009

I wish to nominate James Seng as the ALAC IDN Liaison. His biography provided with the announcement of his appointment to the ALAC (http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-28aug09-en.htm) included: "James is or has been involved in numerous Internet-related groups and committees including the Asia Pacific IPv6 Task Force, Internet Engineering Task Force, ICANN's IDN Registry Implementation Committee, Domain Name Technical Committee of the Singapore Network Information Center, Asia Pacific Internet Association. He also served as Co-chair of the IDN Working Group, Internet Engineering Task Force, 1999-2003 and Chair of the iDNS Working Group, Asia Pacific Networking Group, 1998-2000." Alan

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments for 2009 - 2010
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 6, 2009

Oct. 6, 2009

I accept the nomination for Vice-Chair. Although seconds are not required according to our rules, I think it is fine tradition and I support the nominations of Cheryl, Sebastien and Patrick. In addition, I nominate myself for the position of GNSO Liaison. I do this after due consideration and with just a bit of reluctance, but the following is my rationale: - The two roles combined will not exceed the workload that I was prepared to take on as Board Liaison; - I think that this year, with the restructured GNSO being seated in Seoul, having an ALAC Liaison understanding the history of how we got here, and the complex politics within the GNSO, is going to be extremely important; - I have established credibility with the majority of old GNSO Council members, and I believe that this has been critical to our overall perceived credibility in ICANN. Carrying this credibility to the new Council will be very valuable and I think that I am in a good position to do this. At the same time, it is imperative that we start getting more ALAC and At-Large people familiar with the GNSO and GNSO Council, and GNSO members familiar with them. I would suggest that active participation of ALAC and At-Large members in GNSO WGs is the key to this. Alan At 06/10/2009 01:13 AM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote: >I would like to nominate for: > >ALAC Chair Position: Cheryl Langdon-Orr > >ALAC Vice-Chair Position: Alan Greenberg > >SSAC Liaison: Patrick Vande Walle > >All the best > >Sébastien Bachollet >Président d'honneur - Isoc France >sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr >www.egeni.org >www.isoc.fr > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge- > > lists.icann.org] De la part de Cheryl Langdon-Orr > > Envoyé : mardi 6 octobre 2009 07:04 > > À : ALAC Working List > > Cc : At-Large Worldwide > > Objet : [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments > > for 2009 - 2010 > > > > *ELECTION CALL Nominations are currently open for:* > > > > *- ALAC Liaison (other than the Board Liaison {finalised}); > > - ALAC Appointments (such as WHOIS AND IDN);* > > *- ALAC Officer Positions.* > > > > Please refer to ROP's here http://tinyurl.com/levxyf which in brief > > state > > that:- > > - Only ALAC members serving after the Seoul meeting may be nominated > > for > > Officer positions. > > - Only current ALAC members may submit nominations. > > - Self nominations are allowed. > > - For Liaisons and Appointments there are no formal restrictions > > regarding > > ALAC membership, but the ROP's say "They shall normally be persons who > > are > > current or former members of the ALAC, or are anyway familiar with the > > activities and functioning of ICANN and of the ALAC." It should be > > noted > > that budget allocation for travel to ICANN Meetings is only assured for > > serving ALAC Members and therefore a non-ALAC Member Liaison or > > Appointment > > nominee should certify to the ALAC their ability to undertake all > > aspects of > > their job descriptions (including attendance at all three ICANN > > Meetings), without receiving travel support to do so. > > > > *All nominations and acceptances etc., are to be sent to the public > > ALAC > > List* "ALAC Working List" <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > All details and the repository for nominee details is found at > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?at_large_elections_2009 > > > > <https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?at_large_elections_2009> > > Relevant > > text from this page is copied below: > > <Start SNIP> * Other Liaison positions > > * > > The elections for ALAC Liaisons to the Bylaw mandated GNSO and ccNSO > > Councils as well as the SSAC, GNSO User House/NCSG/NCUC {subject to > > discussions at Seoul meeting and agreement from the receiving party} > > and the > > liaison appointments to IDN and WHOIS Policy Processes will be > > conducted > > through a single, global election process. The ALAC will vote on the > > list of > > candidates using the Instant Runoff Voting system< > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting>, as provided in > > Rule > > 10.4 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure. This means they will rank each > > candidate, from most preferred to least preferred, using the electronic > > voting system regularly used for ALAC voting. > > > > **Election timetable:* > > * > > During its August 4 meeting, the ALAC adopted timetable for the Liaison > > elections (now modified to allow call to occur after Board Liaison > > election > > is completed yet still fit with ROP's): > > > > Nominations Open/Election Call Issued: 5th October > > Nominations Close: 19th October > > Acceptance of Nominations Due By: 26th October > > ALAC Voting Begins: 1 November > > ALAC Voting Concludes: At ALAC Chair's discretion, generally votes are > > held > > over a 5 or 7 day period > > > > > > **Requirements and Obligations:** > > > > Please click here < > > https://st.icann.org/alac- > > docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_liaisons> > > for an overview on the general obligations and requirements for ALAC > > Liaison > > positions as specified by the organising instruments. Interested > > candidates > > may also want to review the Draft Position Description for ALAC Members > > and > > Liaisons <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_alac_pd> which was > > prepared by ALAC member Alan Greenberg and is currently open for > > comments > > from the At-Large community. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > ** > > > > *ALAC Officers* > > > > According to the two motions of the ALAC, which were adopted during the > > 25 > > November 2008 ALAC > > > > Meeting < > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?25_november_2008_summary_minutes> > > the > > ALAC Officers consisting of a Chair, two Vice-Chairs, and a Rapporteur > > shall > > represent different ICANN Geographic Regions. As our adopted ROP's have > > not > > as yet been altered to reflect a method of ensuring this diversity this > > will > > be a subject for discussion and decision at the Seoul Meeting of the > > ALAC. > > > > * *Election Timetables** > > > > Nominations Open/Election Call Issued: 5th October > > Nominations Close: 19th October > > Acceptance of Nominations Due By: 26th October > > ALAC Voting Begins: 1 November > > ALAC Voting Concludes: At ALAC Chair's discretion, generally votes are > > 5-7 days in length > > > > > > * *Requirements and Obligations** > > > > Please click here < > > https://st.icann.org/alac- > > docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_officers> > > for an overview on the general obligations and requirements for ALAC > > Officer > > positions as specified by the organising instruments. > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)ALAC Chair 2007-2009 > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC mailing list > > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- > > lists.icann.org > > > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments for 2009 - 2010
by Patrick Vande Walle Oct. 6, 2009

Oct. 6, 2009

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:13:57 +0200, Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr> wrote: > SSAC Liaison: Patrick Vande Walle Thanks for your support and trust Sébastien. By way of this e-mail, I accept the nomination. Patrick >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge- >> lists.icann.org] De la part de Cheryl Langdon-Orr >> Envoyé : mardi 6 octobre 2009 07:04 >> À : ALAC Working List >> Cc : At-Large Worldwide >> Objet : [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments >> for 2009 - 2010 >> >> *ELECTION CALL Nominations are currently open for:* >> >> *- ALAC Liaison (other than the Board Liaison {finalised}); >> - ALAC Appointments (such as WHOIS AND IDN);* >> *- ALAC Officer Positions.* >> >> Please refer to ROP's here http://tinyurl.com/levxyf which in brief >> state >> that:- >> - Only ALAC members serving after the Seoul meeting may be nominated >> for >> Officer positions. >> - Only current ALAC members may submit nominations. >> - Self nominations are allowed. >> - For Liaisons and Appointments there are no formal restrictions >> regarding >> ALAC membership, but the ROP's say "They shall normally be persons who >> are >> current or former members of the ALAC, or are anyway familiar with the >> activities and functioning of ICANN and of the ALAC." It should be >> noted >> that budget allocation for travel to ICANN Meetings is only assured for >> serving ALAC Members and therefore a non-ALAC Member Liaison or >> Appointment >> nominee should certify to the ALAC their ability to undertake all >> aspects of >> their job descriptions (including attendance at all three ICANN >> Meetings), without receiving travel support to do so. >> >> *All nominations and acceptances etc., are to be sent to the public >> ALAC >> List* "ALAC Working List" <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> >> All details and the repository for nominee details is found at >> https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?at_large_elections_2009 >> >> <https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?at_large_elections_2009> >> Relevant >> text from this page is copied below: >> <Start SNIP> * Other Liaison positions >> * >> The elections for ALAC Liaisons to the Bylaw mandated GNSO and ccNSO >> Councils as well as the SSAC, GNSO User House/NCSG/NCUC {subject to >> discussions at Seoul meeting and agreement from the receiving party} >> and the >> liaison appointments to IDN and WHOIS Policy Processes will be >> conducted >> through a single, global election process. The ALAC will vote on the >> list of >> candidates using the Instant Runoff Voting system< >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting>, as provided in >> Rule >> 10.4 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure. This means they will rank each >> candidate, from most preferred to least preferred, using the electronic >> voting system regularly used for ALAC voting. >> >> **Election timetable:* >> * >> During its August 4 meeting, the ALAC adopted timetable for the Liaison >> elections (now modified to allow call to occur after Board Liaison >> election >> is completed yet still fit with ROP's): >> >> Nominations Open/Election Call Issued: 5th October >> Nominations Close: 19th October >> Acceptance of Nominations Due By: 26th October >> ALAC Voting Begins: 1 November >> ALAC Voting Concludes: At ALAC Chair's discretion, generally votes are >> held >> over a 5 or 7 day period >> >> >> **Requirements and Obligations:** >> >> Please click here < >> https://st.icann.org/alac- >> docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_liaisons> >> for an overview on the general obligations and requirements for ALAC >> Liaison >> positions as specified by the organising instruments. Interested >> candidates >> may also want to review the Draft Position Description for ALAC Members >> and >> Liaisons <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_alac_pd> which was >> prepared by ALAC member Alan Greenberg and is currently open for >> comments >> from the At-Large community. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ** >> >> *ALAC Officers* >> >> According to the two motions of the ALAC, which were adopted during the >> 25 >> November 2008 ALAC >> >> Meeting < >> https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?25_november_2008_summary_minutes> >> the >> ALAC Officers consisting of a Chair, two Vice-Chairs, and a Rapporteur >> shall >> represent different ICANN Geographic Regions. As our adopted ROP's have >> not >> as yet been altered to reflect a method of ensuring this diversity this >> will >> be a subject for discussion and decision at the Seoul Meeting of the >> ALAC. >> >> * *Election Timetables** >> >> Nominations Open/Election Call Issued: 5th October >> Nominations Close: 19th October >> Acceptance of Nominations Due By: 26th October >> ALAC Voting Begins: 1 November >> ALAC Voting Concludes: At ALAC Chair's discretion, generally votes are >> 5-7 days in length >> >> >> * *Requirements and Obligations** >> >> Please click here < >> https://st.icann.org/alac- >> docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_officers> >> for an overview on the general obligations and requirements for ALAC >> Officer >> positions as specified by the organising instruments. >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)ALAC Chair 2007-2009 >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- >> lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org >> ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac -- Blog: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu Twitter: http://twitter.vande-walle.eu Identica: http://identica.vande-walle.eu

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments for 2009 - 2010
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Oct. 6, 2009

Oct. 6, 2009

Sebastien I'd be honored to continue in my current role as Chair of the ALAC during my final term with the ALAC -> Thank you and please note my formal Acceptance of Nomination. Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2009/10/6 Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr> > I would like to nominate for: > > ALAC Chair Position: Cheryl Langdon-Orr > > ALAC Vice-Chair Position: Alan Greenberg > > SSAC Liaison: Patrick Vande Walle > > All the best > > Sébastien Bachollet > Président d'honneur - Isoc France > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge- > > lists.icann.org] De la part de Cheryl Langdon-Orr > > Envoyé : mardi 6 octobre 2009 07:04 > > À : ALAC Working List > > Cc : At-Large Worldwide > > Objet : [ALAC] ELECTION CALL ALAC Officers, Liaisons and Appointments > > for 2009 - 2010 > > > > *ELECTION CALL Nominations are currently open for:* > > > > *- ALAC Liaison (other than the Board Liaison {finalised}); > > - ALAC Appointments (such as WHOIS AND IDN);* > > *- ALAC Officer Positions.* > > > > Please refer to ROP's here http://tinyurl.com/levxyf which in brief > > state > > that:- > > - Only ALAC members serving after the Seoul meeting may be nominated > > for > > Officer positions. > > - Only current ALAC members may submit nominations. > > - Self nominations are allowed. > > - For Liaisons and Appointments there are no formal restrictions > > regarding > > ALAC membership, but the ROP's say "They shall normally be persons who > > are > > current or former members of the ALAC, or are anyway familiar with the > > activities and functioning of ICANN and of the ALAC." It should be > > noted > > that budget allocation for travel to ICANN Meetings is only assured for > > serving ALAC Members and therefore a non-ALAC Member Liaison or > > Appointment > > nominee should certify to the ALAC their ability to undertake all > > aspects of > > their job descriptions (including attendance at all three ICANN > > Meetings), without receiving travel support to do so. > > > > *All nominations and acceptances etc., are to be sent to the public > > ALAC > > List* "ALAC Working List" <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > All details and the repository for nominee details is found at > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?at_large_elections_2009 > > > > <https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?at_large_elections_2009> > > Relevant > > text from this page is copied below: > > <Start SNIP> * Other Liaison positions > > * > > The elections for ALAC Liaisons to the Bylaw mandated GNSO and ccNSO > > Councils as well as the SSAC, GNSO User House/NCSG/NCUC {subject to > > discussions at Seoul meeting and agreement from the receiving party} > > and the > > liaison appointments to IDN and WHOIS Policy Processes will be > > conducted > > through a single, global election process. The ALAC will vote on the > > list of > > candidates using the Instant Runoff Voting system< > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting>, as provided in > > Rule > > 10.4 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure. This means they will rank each > > candidate, from most preferred to least preferred, using the electronic > > voting system regularly used for ALAC voting. > > > > **Election timetable:* > > * > > During its August 4 meeting, the ALAC adopted timetable for the Liaison > > elections (now modified to allow call to occur after Board Liaison > > election > > is completed yet still fit with ROP's): > > > > Nominations Open/Election Call Issued: 5th October > > Nominations Close: 19th October > > Acceptance of Nominations Due By: 26th October > > ALAC Voting Begins: 1 November > > ALAC Voting Concludes: At ALAC Chair's discretion, generally votes are > > held > > over a 5 or 7 day period > > > > > > **Requirements and Obligations:** > > > > Please click here < > > https://st.icann.org/alac- > > docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_liaisons> > > for an overview on the general obligations and requirements for ALAC > > Liaison > > positions as specified by the organising instruments. Interested > > candidates > > may also want to review the Draft Position Description for ALAC Members > > and > > Liaisons <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_alac_pd> which was > > prepared by ALAC member Alan Greenberg and is currently open for > > comments > > from the At-Large community. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > ** > > > > *ALAC Officers* > > > > According to the two motions of the ALAC, which were adopted during the > > 25 > > November 2008 ALAC > > > > Meeting < > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?25_november_2008_summary_minutes> > > the > > ALAC Officers consisting of a Chair, two Vice-Chairs, and a Rapporteur > > shall > > represent different ICANN Geographic Regions. As our adopted ROP's have > > not > > as yet been altered to reflect a method of ensuring this diversity this > > will > > be a subject for discussion and decision at the Seoul Meeting of the > > ALAC. > > > > * *Election Timetables** > > > > Nominations Open/Election Call Issued: 5th October > > Nominations Close: 19th October > > Acceptance of Nominations Due By: 26th October > > ALAC Voting Begins: 1 November > > ALAC Voting Concludes: At ALAC Chair's discretion, generally votes are > > 5-7 days in length > > > > > > * *Requirements and Obligations** > > > > Please click here < > > https://st.icann.org/alac- > > docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_officers> > > for an overview on the general obligations and requirements for ALAC > > Officer > > positions as specified by the organising instruments. > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)ALAC Chair 2007-2009 > > _______________________________________________ > > ALAC mailing list > > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- > > lists.icann.org > > > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac > > -- Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)

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Re: [At-Large] Questions regarding New Board Director position
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

At 05/10/2009 12:33 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >2009/10/5 Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> > > > > > And a few more comments from me. > > > >ditto. And more from me. >Sometimes I wonder if the whole discussion of Wolf's comments were better >just done here on the mailing list. Wikis are not the best medium for >forums. A position that I have long taken! Something that we can agree upon! :-) Alan

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Re: [At-Large] Questions regarding New Board Director position
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

At 04/10/2009 11:52 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >Alan wrote: > >Wolf posted some questions regarding the proposed At-large Director, and I > > have given my view on them - > > https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?ideas_for_consideration. > > > > I have no doubt that others may have somewhat different views. > > > >I have provided some answers as well, though they're more of an expansion of >Alan's comments than disagreement. And a few more comments from me. Alan

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Registrar behaviour
by Derek Smythe Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

Hi all I have a strange question. We all know that the registrar EstDomains is no more based upon certain aspects that were revealed relating to it's director's past. Of course this was in line with the behavioral requirements to become and stay a registrar. Now what if a registrar is in a country where cybercrime is a non issue and the registrar is actively being abused or maybe even abusing his position for cybercrime; scam websites, botnets, spamming and CP etc - in fact every form of deviant net behavior not only frowned upon, but would make the reason EstDomains was suspended look like a walk in the park, with many of the acts being advertised as okay. Domains are set up such as to frustrate law enforcement and lawyers. How to handle this situation if this situation is being exploited to actively attract the money and business of international cyber criminals who in turn prey upon innocent netizens and central to this is domains? Then to crown it all, ICANN is being used to give the registrar credibility on the same pages attracting cyber criminals! Derek

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Re: [At-Large] Board appointments to fill 3 non-commercial seats on the new Council
by Beau Brendler Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

It seems assumptions are being made about the consumer constituency based on an absence of facts. Shocking! You wrote: >It is my recollection that Rosemary was at the NCUC meeting in >> Sydney, and seemed very sympathetic to NCUC at the time. While I >> would assume she has been lobbied by Consumer Constituency folk, it >> is my hope that she will be sympathetic to NCUC arguments.< Never heard of her. Never met her. Never lobbied her. I agree with Bret Fausett -- though, as one of the applicants for the seats who wasn't picked, I don't think it's necessarily appropriate to make public comments about the candidates. "Lobbied by Consumer Constituency folk" -- don't look for phantoms where there aren't any. "While I would assume she has been lobbied by Consumer Constituency folk, it is my hope that she will be sympathetic to NCUC arguments." Generally speaking, I doubt the two would be in opposition much of the time. What are you so afraid of? -----Original Message----- >From: William Drake <william.drake(a)graduateinstitute.ch> >Sent: Oct 1, 2009 4:57 AM >To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] Board appointments to fill 3 non-commercial seats on the new Council > >As usual, NCUC and ALAC members are having the same conversations in >their respective silos, e.g. on .hn, the AoC, etc. Since I replied to >David on the NCUC list where he'd posted but he was forwarding from >here, I should share my reply here as well. So FWIW... > >Bill > >Begin forwarded message: > >> From: William Drake <william.drake(a)graduateinstitute.ch> >> Date: October 1, 2009 10:46:43 AM GMT+02:00 >> To: NCUC Members List <NCUC-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> >> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Fwd: Board appointments to fill 3 non- >> commercial seats on the new Council >> >> Hi >> >> On Oct 1, 2009, at 7:21 AM, David Cake wrote: >> >>> At 11:31 AM +0900 1/10/09, Adam Peake wrote: >>>>> From: Denise Michel <denise.michel(a)icann.org> >>>>> To: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au>, >>>>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> Subject: [At-Large] Fwd: Board appointments to fill 3 non- >>>>> commercial seats >>>>> on the new Council >>>>> >>>>> Dear Community Members, >>>>> >>>>> The Board has appointed the following individuals to serve as Non- >>>>> Commercial >>>>> Stakeholder Group (NCSG) representatives on the new GNSO Council: >>>>> >>>>> Mohammed Rafik Dammak - Tunisia >>>>> Rosemary Sinclair - Australia >>>>> Debra Hughes - United States >>> >>> It is my recollection that Rosemary was at the NCUC meeting in >>> Sydney, and seemed very sympathetic to NCUC at the time. While I >>> would assume she has been lobbied by Consumer Constituency folk, it >>> is my hope that she will be sympathetic to NCUC arguments. >> >> Hope so too. I suppose it may depend on the argument we're making...? >> >> In the event anyone's not familiar, a wee bit of background on the >> group of which she is the Chair of the Board, the International >> Telecommunications Users Group. INTUG was established by a bunch of >> large transnational corporations back in 1974 to advocate the >> liberalization of global telecom markets. They were, in effect, a >> sort of issue-specific International Chamber of Commerce. In >> parallel with other big business associations, they lobbied >> governments at both the national and multilateral level; I dealt >> with some of their folks in the 80s to mid-90s in the ITU context, >> and still have some of the docs they submitted to ITU and OECD from >> those days. They were especially active in advocating the loosening >> of regulations on the international private leased circuits used by >> financial and other corporate users to construct closed private >> networks bypassing public switched networks for global voice and >> data transmission (pre-commercial Internet), but also pushed for the >> reduction of international calling rates (fixed and mobile) under >> the accounting and settlements system. Thereafter, if I recall >> correctly, a lot of their early members bled off into other industry >> lobbying groups; the current membership http://intug.org/members/our-members/ >> seems to comprise national associations, some of which are not >> entirely big business, e.g. the membership of ATUG (which she also >> heads) "consists of 1/3 from the Top 1000 trading companies in >> Australia, 1/3 from the Small to Medium Enterprise sector and 1/3 >> coming from small business, consultants, educational organisations >> such as TAFE and local government." >> >> In the Internet era INTUG's been less visible (at least to me) >> relative to other industry lobbying groups so I'm not aware of its >> positions on most ICANN issues, but it's a founding member of the >> Alliance for Global Business, which has taken stands on some >> relevant topics. For example, you can read the AGB's Global Action >> Plan for Electronic Business here http://www.witsa.org/papers/3rdEd-GlobalActionPlan.pdf >> . Some quotes of interest: >> >> *WTO members should recognize that specific WTO agreements governing >> trade in goods, trade in services, or trade-related intellectual >> property apply to electronic transmissions...Business will work to >> encourage all countries to implement effectively the TRIPS >> agreement. Business will also continue to develop and deploy >> technologies that prevent IP infringements in the online environment. >> >> *Business should have a significant role in the formation of policy >> for technical management of the domain name system and the >> development of policy. Through the various Supporting Organizations >> of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), >> and in particular the Business Constituency of the Domain Name >> Supporting Organization (DNSO), business will continue to work to >> ensure continued stability and security of the Internet, as well as >> appropriate protection of intellectual property. The protection of >> intellectual property (especially famous names) and efficient ways >> of dealing with cybersquatting remain priority issues for business. >> >> *Governments should recognize that the Internet is a new medium >> providing new opportunities and challenges. Existing regulatory >> systems must provide consumers with useful protection of their >> personal data and at the same time guarantee the free flow of >> information needed for the information society to produce the >> anticipated benefits. Governments should also recognize that self >> regulation may be a more flexible method of achieving data >> protection than government regulation. To that end, governments >> should: • work with the private sector to adopt interpretation of >> existing regulatory solutions based on the criteria in the paragraph >> above; • recognize the validity and adequacy of effective >> selfregulation augmented by the use of privacy-enhancing >> technologies; and • educate the public to use such privacy-enhancing >> technologies properly. >> >> And so on... >> >> I look forward to working on issues of common concern with the INTUG >> Chair and the other board appointees in the new SG for noncommercial >> users. >> >> Best, >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> > >*********************************************************** >William J. Drake >Senior Associate >Centre for International Governance >Graduate Institute of International and > Development Studies >Geneva, Switzerland >william.drake(a)graduateinstitute.ch >www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html >*********************************************************** > > >_______________________________________________ >At-Large mailing list >At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Civic Representation in ICANN: WhatNow? - ISOC-NY Forum @ NYU 10/8/09
by Beau Brendler Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

Yes, I meant the current re-organization scheme. No intent on my part to try to take credit for others' work -- and, in fact, I am very glad you told me this idea has been around since 2001. -----Original Message----- >From: Joly MacFie <joly(a)punkcast.com> >Sent: Oct 5, 2009 6:29 AM >To: Chris McElroy 786-317-8774 <namecritic(a)blogs.pn> >Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Civic Representation in ICANN: WhatNow? - ISOC-NY Forum @ NYU 10/8/09 > >Well, I can't speak for Beau, but I would imagine what he meant is >that this was the intitial proposal under the current re-organization >scheme. > >Joly > > > >On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Chris McElroy 786-317-8774 ><namecritic(a)blogs.pn> wrote: >> Uh, Beau, you wrote; "It was not necessarily a recent proposal to establish >> a consumer constituency -- I wrote the initial proposal back in February, I >> think." >> >> It's been proposed since 2001. So, no it isn't necessarily a recent >> proposal, nor did you originally write one. Originally, it was proposed by >> several people over the years. >> >> Chris McElroy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beau Brendler" >> <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> >> To: "Joly MacFie" <joly(a)punkcast.com>; "At-Large Worldwide" >> <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>; "NA Discuss" >> <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Civic Representation in ICANN: WhatNow? >> - ISOC-NY Forum @ NYU 10/8/09 >> >> >>> A couple of minor corrections: >>> >>> The biographical stuff is accurate but incomplete, in that I left >>> Consumers Union at the end of May, after eight years, and am now at NARSAD, >>> the National Alliance for Research on Schizophrenia and Depression. I am no >>> longer with a consumer organization, though I do continue in consumer >>> journalism, writing a column for AOL's Money and Finance section >>> (http://www.walletpop.com/blog/bloggers/beau-brendler/) It was not >>> necessarily a recent proposal to establish a consumer constituency -- I >>> wrote the initial proposal back in February, I think. It's since been >>> heavily rewritten and re-submitted to recast some presuppositions and >>> correct some inaccuracies. >>> >>> As for this paragraph: >>> However some members – of both the NCUC and At-Large – with particular >>>> >>>> axes to grind, are keen on a plan that will permit them to represent >>>> their interests in the GNSO without having to carry the NCUC with >>>> them. >>> >>> I'm not entirely sure what that means. But the proposal for the consumer >>> constituency grew out of issues related to ALAC, which, at the time, was not >>> really set up to accomodate the interests of consumer groups. >>> >>> And those three seats are no longer placeholders, the board has chosen >>> candidates for them. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From: Joly MacFie <joly(a)punkcast.com> >>>> Sent: Oct 2, 2009 10:41 PM >>>> To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, NA Discuss >>>> <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Civic Representation in ICANN: What Now? - ISOC-NY >>>> Forum @ NYU 10/8/09 >>>> >>>> *** Please feel free to email me off list with any egregious mistakes >>>> in my description below. Joly(a)punkcast.com *** >>>> >>>> >>>> Civic Representation in ICANN: What Now? >>>> >>>> What: An ISOC-NY Forum >>>> When: Thurs Oct 8 2009 – 6:45pm – 8:45pm >>>> Where: Warren Weaver Hall NYU >>>> 251 Mercer St Rm 317 >>>> New York NY 10012 >>>> http://cs.nyu.edu/web/Location/directions.html >>>> Who: Dr Milton Mueller; Beau Brendler; Danny Younger >>>> >>>> Admission free: RSVP president(a)isoc-ny.org >>>> >>>> On Oct 1 2009 the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers >>>> (ICANN) entered a new era as its Joint Project Agreement (JPA) with >>>> the US Government expired and it became a truly independent global >>>> organization. In this forum we will examine the processes, currently >>>> in flux, of how we the people will get to participate in this new >>>> paradigm. >>>> >>>> The newly coined Articles of Commitment (AoC) state that ICANN will >>>> “operate as a multi-stakeholder, private sector led organization with >>>> input from the public, for whose benefit ICANN shall in all events >>>> act.” >>>> >>>> Currently there are two mechanisms by which the Internet using public >>>> are represented at ICANN. The Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC >>>> aka NonComm) in the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and >>>> the At-Large organization.. >>>> >>>> The At-Large Advisory Council was formed, with official liaison >>>> status, as an interim measure in 2003 after the ICANN board had >>>> dispensed with direct public elections. In 2007 with the establishment >>>> of regional At-Large Organizations (ALO’s). the ALAC became permanent. >>>> ALO membership is open to all individuals and organizations can apply >>>> to become an At-Large Structure (ALS). In 2009 it was agreed that an >>>> ICANN board seat be allotted to the At-Large. >>>> >>>> The GNSO Council is ICANN’s primary body responsible for policy >>>> recommendations for generic top level domains. The board balances the >>>> GNSO recommendations with input from the Government Advisory Committee >>>> (GAC) and liaisons from various technical groups, plus At Large (soon >>>> to be seated, as mentioned) plus the ICANN Ombudsman. >>>> >>>> Other constituencies in are, Business/Commercial, Registries, ISPs, >>>> and Intellectual Property. The NCUC, formerly the Noncommercial Domain >>>> Holders Constituency, has thus been, since ICANN’s inception, the sole >>>> voice of non-commercial users on the GNSO Council. As such it has >>>> taken to representing regular internet users’ concerns as well as >>>> those of registrants. >>>> >>>> Earlier this year ICANN proposed another re-organization, replacing >>>> the GNSO constituencies with two ‘houses’ – Contracted and >>>> Non-contracted, each of which was further divided into two stakeholder >>>> groups. Contracted has Registries and Registrars; Non-Contracted has >>>> Commercial (CSG) and Noncommercial (NCSG). 12 seats on the GNSO >>>> Council would be split thus: CSG 6; NCSG 6; Registries 3; Registrars >>>> 3. >>>> >>>> The former ISP, Business, and IP constituencies are to be folded into >>>> the CSG and presumably take two seats each. >>>> >>>> On the NCSG front: 3 seats have been alloted to the NCUC and 3 >>>> placeholders have been selected by the ICANN Structural Improvement >>>> Committee. >>>> >>>> The NCUC has argued against the plan insisting that it will only serve >>>> to further balkanize the GNSO process, and that practical policymaking >>>> would be better served by ad-hoc working groups than the proposed >>>> legislative approach. >>>> >>>> http://gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/en/improvements/executive-summary-ncsg-pro… >>>> >>>> However some members – of both the NCUC and At-Large – with particular >>>> axes to grind, are keen on a plan that will permit them to represent >>>> their interests in the GNSO without having to carry the NCUC with >>>> them. >>>> >>>> The three speakers we are bringing together on Oct 8 represent widely >>>> differing views on how it is best to proceed in the public interest. >>>> It is sure to be a very lively and interesting discussion. >>>> >>>> We will webcast and there will be an opportunity for remote >>>> participation via a chatroom. >>>> >>>> More info: http://isoc-ny.org/?p=886 >>>> >>>> Speakers: >>>> >>>> Dr. Milton Mueller >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller is a Professor and Director of the Telecommunications >>>> Network Management Program at the Syracuse University School of >>>> Information Studies. He is the author of ‘Ruling the Root: Internet >>>> Governance and the Taming of Cyberspace’ (MIT Press, 2002) – the >>>> definitive account of early Internet governance debates. Mueller was a >>>> co-founder of the Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC) and was >>>> chair of NCUC from 2003-2005. >>>> >>>> http://www.internetgovernance.org/people-mueller.html >>>> >>>> Beau Brendler: >>>> >>>> Beau Brendler is a journalist and consumer activist who takes a >>>> particular interest in Internet affairs. He was a founder and >>>> editorial director of ABCNews.com before moving to a fulltime position >>>> at the Consumers Union in 2001 where he launched Consumer WebWatch . >>>> He is an active member of the ICANN Community and serves on the >>>> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) . He has recently proposed the >>>> establishment of a Consumer Constituency within the Generic Names >>>> Supporting Organization (GNSO). >>>> >>>> Danny Younger: >>>> >>>> Danny Younger has been involved with ICANN since at least 2001 >>>> including active participation on the General Assembly mailing list. >>>> He represented ISOC-NY in the Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC) >>>> from 2004-2007. He has for some time advocated for a single >>>> Registrants constituency within the GNSO. >>>> >>>> More info: >>>> ICANN Structure: http://www.icann.org/en/structure/ >>>> NonCommercial Users Constituency: http://www.ncdnhc.org/ >>>> At-Large Advisory Committee: http://alac.icann.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Joly MacFie 917 442 8665 Skype:punkcast >>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> >>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… >>>> >>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>> ------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> At-Large mailing list >>> At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> >>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… >>> >>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> >> > > > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Joly MacFie 917 442 8665 Skype:punkcast >WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >At-Large mailing list >At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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