March 2013 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

RES: Message to the ALSes within At Large [Capacity Building WG]
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org March 8, 2013

March 8, 2013

Dear Salanieta; Im working with the Staff in order to send you an LACRALO update list with the data for you required . Warm regards, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Secretaria LACRALO-ICANN/ 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org> http://atlarge.icann.org Secretaria FLUI 2009-2012 sylvia_leite=Skype Descrição: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < <mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> Date: 2013/3/7 Subject: [At-Large] Message to the ALSes within At Large [Capacity Building WG] To: At-Large Worldwide < <mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Dear Colleagues, The At Large Capacity Building Working Group is in the process of verifying information and we would be grateful if you could advise us whether your At Large Structure (ALS) is spelt correctly or if there has been a substantial name change. We would also like to know what primary language is spoken in your country and what the secondary languages are. To see the list, please visit: https://community.icann.org/x/3oc3Ag You can place your comments directly on the wiki or send us an email by replying to this email to let us know of any corrections or additions that we should make. Kindly note that we are in the process of adding new ALSes that have recently joined At Large. By this email, we would like to request each RALO Secretariat to urge their members to send us feedback and to forward this message to their respective RALOs. Many Thanks, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Chair At Large Capacity Building Working Group _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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RrSG Statement on RAA Talks
by Michele Neylon :: Blacknight March 8, 2013

March 8, 2013

As you will discover today ICANN has published "a" version of the new RAA for comment. As this impacts on multiple topics / themes you'll have to excuse me for cross-posting this The Registrar SG Negotiating Team feel this publication was premature and have issued a statement: http://michele.cat/22 Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions ♞ Hosting & Domains ICANN Accredited Registrar http://www.blacknight.co http://blog.blacknight.com/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 US: 213-233-1612 Locall: 1850 929 929 Facebook: http://fb.me/blacknight Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten March 8, 2013

March 8, 2013

Total of 6 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Mar 8 00:53:05 EST 2013 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 50.00% | 3 | 93.33% | 389056 | salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com 16.67% | 1 | 3.24% | 13491 | avri at acm.org 16.67% | 1 | 1.74% | 7236 | narten at us.ibm.com 16.67% | 1 | 1.69% | 7058 | roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 6 |100.00% | 416841 | Total

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] Closed generic statement
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro March 1, 2013

March 1, 2013

Dear All, I have been in meetings whole day and it's been a really hectic week. I am attaching my thoughts on the matter which I have pasted on the wiki. They are also on the wiki. My comments on the Statement to point to the relevant portions of the Affirmation of Commitment in relation to ICANN's obligations and what it should consider. Kind Regards, Sala On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca>wrote: > Evan has kindly pointed out that in my last sentence before my > signature, it should have been "... ADDED in the last sentence." > > Alan (trying to extract his foot from his mouth, and hoping to teach > his fingers how to select the correct keys) > > At 28/02/2013 01:23 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote: > >Evan and I have agreed on three small changes that have been > >suggested. They are shown on the wiki at > >https://community.icann.org/x/Z4JwAg. The resultant version is: > >==== > >On the whole, the ALAC does not believe that unlimited closed > >generics provide public benefit and would prefer that TLDs -- > >especially for strings representing categories -- were not allocated > >in a way that would lock out broad access to sub-domains. Some > >members of At-Large believe, on principle, that all closed generics > >are harmful to the public good. Others believe that, while not > >necessarily being beneficial to end users, closed gTLDs should be > >allowed as simply being consistent with existing practise for > >lower-level domains. > > > >However, in developing this response to the Board's request, the ALAC > >found the issue to be far more nuanced than the above hard positions > >would suggest. There may be innovative business models that might > >allow a closed TLD to be in the public interest. An example might be > >a registry that makes 2nd level names available at no cost to anyone, > >but retains legal control over them. This is similar to the model > >used by Facebook and many blog hosting sites. Allowance should be > >made for applicants interested in widespread sub-domain distribution > >that do not require domain-name sales as a source of revenue, or for > >other forms of sub-domain allocation. > > > >Whether a generic-word string is used with its generic meaning or in > >some other context may also be relevant. The fictitious but famous > >computer manufacturer, Orange Computers Inc. using the TLD ".orange" > >might be acceptable, while the same string used as a closed TLD by a > >California Orange Growers Cooperative (and not allowing access to > >orange producers from Florida or Mediterranean and South American > >countries) might well be considered unacceptable. > > > >Allowing this nuanced approach would likely involve a case by case > >review of how a TLD will be used and how its sub-domains will be > >allocated. Moreover, it would require a contractual commitment to not > >change that model once the TLD is delegated. > > > >In summary, the ALAC believes that completely uncontrolled use of > >generic words as TLDs is not something that ICANN should be > >supporting. However, some instances of generic word TLDs could be > >both reasonable and have very strong benefits of just the sort that > >ICANN was seeking when the TLD space was opened. Such uses should not > >be excluded as long as it can be established that they serve the > >public interest. > >==== > >The changes were: > >- "unlimited" added in the first sentence. > >- "We can foresee" changed to "There may be" in the 2nd sentence of > >paragraph 2. > >- "as long as it can be established that they serve the public > >interest" assed in the last sentence. > > > >Alan > > > >At 28/02/2013 01:00 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote: > > >At Tuesday's ALAC meeting, Evan presented a statement on closed > > >generic word domains that gave the two opposing positions that had > > >been expressed by various ALAC and At-Large people. I suggested that > > >the ALAC not vote for or against that statement, but each member say > > >with side they supported. As the discussion evolved, there was some > > >discomfort about simply giving a tally of the two sides, and > > >moreover, that it ignored a third option that allowed some parts of > > >both sides to be supported. I volunteered to work with Evan to > > >create a new version. > > > > > >I did create such a 3rd "in between" option. As we were reviewing > > >it, and partially guided by a message from Roberto Gaetano, Evan > > >suggested that this in-between option, with some enhancements, could > > >be a single statement that most or all of the ALAC could support. > > > > > >What you see here is an evolution of that statement. Thanks to > > >Olivier and Rinalia who identified a number of problems with > > earlier versions. > > > > > >The comment period closes on March 7th, so a vote will need to be > > >completed by March 6th. I believe that Olivier would like to start a > > >vote relatively quickly, so if you have any problems with what you > > >see here, please speak up quickly. > > > > > >This new statement is also posted on the wiki - > > >https://community.icann.org/x/Z4JwAg. > > > > > >Alan > > > > > >================================= > > > > > >On the whole, the ALAC does not believe that closed generics provide > > >public benefit and would prefer that TLDs -- especially for strings > > >representing categories -- were not allocated in a way that would > > >lock out broad access to sub-domains. Some members of At-Large > > >believe, on principle, that all closed generics are harmful to the > > >public good. Others believe that, while not necessarily being > > >beneficial to end users, closed gTLDs should be allowed as simply > > >being consistent with existing practise for lower-level domains. > > > > > >However, in developing this response to the Board's request, the > > >ALAC found the issue to be far more nuanced than the above hard > > >positions would suggest. We can foresee innovative business models > > >that might allow a closed TLD to be in the public interest. An > > >example might be a registry that makes 2nd level names available at > > >no cost to anyone, but retains legal control over them. This is > > >similar to the model used by Facebook and many blog hosting sites. > > >Allowance should be made for applicants interested in widespread > > >sub-domain distribution that do not require domain-name sales as a > > >source of revenue, or for other forms of sub-domain allocation. > > > > > >Whether a generic-word string is used with its generic meaning or in > > >some other context may also be relevant. The fictitious but famous > > >computer manufacturer, Orange Computers Inc. using the TLD ".orange" > > >might be acceptable, while the same string used as a closed TLD by a > > >California Orange Growers Cooperative (and not allowing access to > > >orange producers from Florida or Mediterranean and South American > > >countries) might well be considered unacceptable. > > > > > >Allowing this nuanced approach would likely involve a case by case > > >review of how a TLD will be used and how its sub-domains will be > > >allocated. Moreover, it would require a contractual commitment to > > >not change that model once the TLD is delegated. > > > > > >In summary, the ALAC believes that completely uncontrolled use of > > >generic words as TLDs is not something that ICANN should be > > >supporting. However, some instances of generic word TLDs could be > > >both reasonable and have very strong benefits of just the sort that > > >ICANN was seeking when the TLD space was opened. Such uses should > > >not be excluded. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ALAC mailing list > >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > > >At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > >ALAC Working Wiki: > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC mailing list > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > ALAC Working Wiki: > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Tel: +679 3544828 Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten March 1, 2013

March 1, 2013

Total of 8 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Mar 1 00:53:05 EST 2013 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 12.50% | 1 | 71.89% | 453743 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca 12.50% | 1 | 20.30% | 128105 | salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com 12.50% | 1 | 1.80% | 11336 | cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 12.50% | 1 | 1.69% | 10689 | roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com 12.50% | 1 | 1.31% | 8238 | narten at us.ibm.com 12.50% | 1 | 1.11% | 7020 | elisabeth.porteneuve at latmos.ipsl.fr 12.50% | 1 | 0.97% | 6113 | karlenef at gmail.com 12.50% | 1 | 0.93% | 5894 | dogwallah at gmail.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 8 |100.00% | 631138 | Total

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