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Re: [At-Large] Director White Paper - Request for Comments
by Elisabeth Porteneuve Jan. 14, 2010

Jan. 14, 2010

Apparently my email did not reach at-large list - maybe my email subscription ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <elisabeth.porteneuve(a)latmos.ipsl.fr> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "Marco Lorenzoni" <marco.lorenzoni(a)icann.org>; <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [At-Large] Director White Paper - Request for Comments > Greetings, > > I found this New Year wishes from Rod Beckstrom very scaring: > "May the Internet remain unfettered throughout this new decade 3:10 AM Jan > 2nd " > > It seems to me it fits well into your discussion. > No doubts to me, ICANN's structure is getting more and more into > defense-wall. Why, and what is the end-users place in that? > > Kind regards, > Elisabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel(a)firsthand.net> > To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: "Marco Lorenzoni" <marco.lorenzoni(a)icann.org>; > <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Director White Paper - Request for Comments > > >> Evan >> >> >> >> >> On 13 Jan 2010, at 20:20, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >> >>> >>> With the expiration of the JPA and its replacement by the "Affirmation >>> of >>> Commitments", power evolves from one government to many. But this is >>> still a >>> far far distance from the notion that ICANN gets its mandate from the >>> Internet end-user. >>> >> >> Neither the JPA nor Affirmation of Commitments amended the fundamental >> rationale for ICANN to work from the bottom up for a very limited scope >> of resources including DNS root entries, IP address delegations, AS >> Number delegations, and Port address registry. The point of reference >> remains the Internet user. >> >> Governments all have jurisdiction locally over their territory including >> over any network infrastructure or services and use of trademarks. These >> powers are general and pervasive and subject to both multi and bi lateral >> treaty arrangements. This is not changed with the move from the JPA. >> >> ICANN has nothing like this scope. >> >> >>> I say this not with approval, but as what I believe is a realistic >>> evaluation of what I have encountered. We can't properly plan strategy >>> unless we have a clear picture of what we're dealing with. >> >> Hmm. So what happens when that application service comes through from the >> user edge that provides useful support for trademarks across the world in >> a way that the DNS cannot? >> >> That won't happen at ICANN. No assumption should be made that ICANN is >> the place to control the routing of names more generally on networks. >> >> >> Christian >> _______________________________________________ >> At-Large mailing list >> At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> >> >

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Director White Paper - Request for Comments
by At Large Staff Jan. 13, 2010

Jan. 13, 2010

* La version française est ci-dessous *La versión española está abajo Dear All, At its 22 December 2009 teleconference, the ALAC charged a small group with the task of creating an initial white paper on the proposed process for the selection of an ICANN At-Large Board Member to be distributed for wide-spread comment early in January 2010. Please find attached a copy of the Director White Paper in EN and FR for review. The Spanish document will be available in the next few days. The Director White Paper is also available for comment on wiki pages. The portal page is available at: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?director_white_paper. All members of the At-Large community are encouraged to comment on the Director White Paper prior to the next Community Call on the At-Large Selection Process to be scheduled between 27-29 January 2010 (a Doodle will be sent shortly). Comments will be accepted in any of the six UN languages. Please make your comments directly on the wiki page using the "comment" button. It is additionally requested that At-Large community members forward this message to other relevant lists to distribute the call for comments on the Director White Paper as widely as possible. Regards, ** Cher tous, À sa téléconférence du 22 décembre 2009, l'ALAC a chargé un petit groupe de la tâche de créer un premier livre blanc sur le procédé proposé pour le choix d'un membre du conseil At-Large d'ICANN à distribuer pour le commentaire répandu tôt en janvier 2010. Veuillez trouver ci-joint une copie du directeur livre blanc en en et franc pour la revue. Le document espagnol sera disponible en prochains jours. Le directeur livre blanc est également disponible pour le commentaire aux pages de wiki. Le page portique de `est disponible à : https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?director_white_paper. Tous les membres de la communauté At-Large sont encouragés à présenter leurs observations sur le directeur livre blanc avant le prochain faire appel de la Communauté au processus de sélection At-Large à programmer entre les 27-29 janvier 2010 (un Doodle sera envoyé sous peu). Des commentaires seront acceptés dans des six langues l'unes des de l'ONU. Veuillez formuler vos commentaires directement sur la page de wiki utilisant le " ; comment" ; bouton. On lui demande en plus que membre de la Communauté At-Large font suivre à ce message d'autres listes appropriées pour distribuer l'appel pour des commentaires sur le directeur livre blanc aussi largement comme possible. Cordialment, ** Estimado todos, En su teleconferencia del 22 de diciembre de 2009, el ALAC encargó a un pequeño grupo de la tarea de crear un Libro Blanco inicial en el proceso propuesto para la selección de un miembro del Consejo At-Large de ICANN que se distribuirá para el comentario extenso temprano en enero de 2010. Encuentre por favor ató una copia del director Libro Blanco en el EN y el franco para la revisión. El documento español estará disponible en los próximos días. El director Libro Blanco está también disponible para el comentario en las páginas del wiki. El page porta del `está disponible en: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?director_white_paper. Animan a todos los miembros de la comunidad At-Large a comentar respecto al director Libro Blanco antes de la llamada siguiente de la comunidad en el proceso de selección At-Large que se programará entre el 27-29 de enero de 2010 (un Doodle será enviado pronto). Los comentarios serán aceptados en seis idiomas unas de los de la O.N.U. Haga por favor sus comentarios directamente en la página del wiki usando el " comment" botón. Se pide además que los miembros de la Comunidad At-Large transmiten a este mensaje otras listas relevantes para distribuir la llamada para los comentarios sobre el director Libro Blanco tan extensamente como sea posible. Respetos, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org

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Director White Paper: versión español
by At Large Staff Jan. 13, 2010

Jan. 13, 2010

*The English version is available below *La version française est ci-dessous Estimados: Aquí pueden encontrar la versión en español del Libro Blanco en adjunto (los apéndices y glosario se agregarán pronto). Como recordatorio, el Libro Blanco (en inglés, francés y español) está disponible ahora para comentario sobre en este sitio web: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?director_white_paper. Respetos, ** Dear All, Please find the Spanish version of the Director White Paper attached (appendices and glossary to be added soon). As a reminder, the Director White Paper (in EN, FR and ES) is now available for comment on the portal page available at: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?director_white_paper. Regards, ** Cher tous, Veuillez trouver la version espagnole du directeur livre blanc attachée (les annexes et le glossaire à ajouter bientôt). Comme rappel, le directeur livre blanc (en anglais, français et espagnol) est maintenant disponible pour le commentaire sur le page portique de `disponible à : https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?director_white_paper. Cordialment, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nuestros_p=E9sames_a_Sergio_Salin = =?iso-8859-1?q?as_Porto =
by carlos aguirre Jan. 8, 2010

Jan. 8, 2010

Dear Silvia.: Thank`s for the information. Privately I sent to Sergio a mail trying to share with him in this moment. Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:34:16 +0000 > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nuestros_p=E9sames_a_Sergio_Salin = =?iso-8859-1?q?as_Porto = > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nuestros_p=E9sames_a_Sergio_Salin = =?iso-8859-1?q?as_Porto = > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > Dear Compañeros of LACRALO; > I write to them to communicate to them that today, 8-01-2010 to the morning, has passed away > the father of our companion and queridísimo friend Sergio. > We are without words by this sudden loss! > What Saline Mr. Carlos rests peacefully! > > sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8f93ca1f21.html > --]] > > > _________________________________________________________________ ¿Querés chatear en todos lados con tu celu? ¡Registrate a SMS Messenger! http://www.somosmessengersiempre.com/?ocid=TWLH

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Weekly posting summary for alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Jan. 8, 2010

Jan. 8, 2010

Total of 12 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Jan 8 00:53:03 EST 2010 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 25.00% | 3 | 25.01% | 23649 | baptista at publicroot.org 16.67% | 2 | 23.22% | 21955 | langdonorr at gmail.com 16.67% | 2 | 12.14% | 11474 | jmamodio at gmail.com 8.33% | 1 | 11.20% | 10585 | carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com 8.33% | 1 | 8.48% | 8019 | staff at atlarge.icann.org 8.33% | 1 | 7.42% | 7017 | patrick at isoc.lu 8.33% | 1 | 6.66% | 6299 | narten at us.ibm.com 8.33% | 1 | 5.87% | 5551 | johnl at iecc.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 12 |100.00% | 94549 | Total

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Letter from the Chair of the Participation and Engagement WG
by ICANN At-Large Staff Jan. 8, 2010

Jan. 8, 2010

Dear All, The following email is transmitted to you on behalf of Carlos Aguirre, Chair of the working group on At-Large Engagement in ICANN. **************** Participation & Engagement in ICANN Working Group. First Letter for the At Large Community Following work started in Mexico Summit by the WG #1, and with the intention to improve this work trying to achieve the objectives fixed in that opportunity, and after to be nominated by ALAC as Chair of this WG, I want to make extensive to every end users around the world the invitation to participate and colaborate in this huge effort. That participation have to do with the engagement in the ICANN task, and with the understanding that the End Users must be involves into the ICANN desitions in order to do a better world for everyone. We need specially ideas of all of you, to give or add our knowledges to who is in charge into the Organization. We are convinced, the participation for End Users is in most of the cases very difficult, and for multiples factors: like different languajes, lack of knowledge, lack of time, priorization of other matters, etc, etc. We are sure, this is not an easy job, but we will try to reduce the gap, with the multiple participation of all of you, and giving a chanel for where this communication could be fluid. That is the intention of this WG. We want, at this moment, add and share with you some new ideas, to the final WG#1 statement (given at the Mexico Summit), to be analized by you, and asking your comments and points of view about this, in principle. After that,Then, the idea is give to you some documents to hear your feedback and opinions and make in this form a shared work in order to improve and make a better and massive participation, generating an brain storming wich could surely help to achive the goals. There are not silly comments nor useless participation, any one of you can do a productive contribution. For that, Could you help us to improve the communication, participation and in definitive our commitment into ICANN ?. We are sure that the response is YES !! We want to receive of any way your participation, trough documents, mails, tweets, messages in any way, in English, Spanish, French or any other languaje. The idea is to have your participation, doesn`t matter how or how much, the important is to do. And we are waiting those comments and points of view. We are waiting your comments, don`t hesitate and GO ahead!! thank`s and best regards, and of course happy new year for all of you. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre ALAC elected member , by LACRALO & chair of Participation and engagement WG. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Some new ideas in a brain storming method to add the final Mexico Summit statement – Add your idea !!!! will be welcomed !!!.!. 1 – Direct communication with each one of ALS leaders, and each end user registered in a data base. 2 – Use of Social Networks, like twitter, facebook, my space and others. 3 – Document Translations in every languaje ( at least in main six : Spanish, French, Chinese, German, Russian & Portuguese) 4 - End User Friendly Document (in different languajes) about tasks and functions and finalities of each one Suporting Organization and Advisory Committees, and any other part of ICANN structure. 5 – Make periodical teleconference with the people who want participate in a WG 6 - YOUR IDEA... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can download the PDF file of the ALAC statement on At-Large Participation in ICANN, which was drafted by the working group on At-Large Engagement in ICANN during the Mexico Summit under: http://tinyurl.com/yfo7phy

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an interesting article that shows people know very little about the Internet. especially the history
by Joe Baptista Jan. 3, 2010

Jan. 3, 2010

The article is titled "PC Worlds Top 10 Security Nightmares of the Decade" can be found at the following URL: http://bit.ly/7nxeD4 It's worth a read.There is nothing spectacular about this article. But it is an excellent example of how little experts know on the subjects they are experts on. The author restates common truths. Robert Siciliano tells us the "last decade has seen technological breakthroughs unlike any other". This is true. But Siciliano also reminds us our technological success has result in a tremendous rise in fraud. I completely agree with him. The reason he argues in his article is that the "speed of the conveniences technology" provides has "far outpaced the security" measure in place today. Again very bang on. But this claim could be subject to some interpretation that at one time our security outpaced or was even better then the available technology. The historical truth is that security has alway lagged behind technology. And much of that is due to a lack of education amongst the masses. But the simple truth of it is that much of the insecurity in the Internet is due to a lot of twits who run the Internet and have an interest in maintaining and controlling the status quo. Mr. Siciliano provides an excellent example of this in his article when he discusses the DNS vulnerability alleged to have been discovered by IOActive researcher Dan Kaminisky. Kaminisky is credited with the identification in 2008 of a DNS vulnerability to various forms of attack including cache poisoning. This is a false allegation that the press has repeated without any investigation of the facts. Kaminisky never discovered anything he simply repackaged an existing well known problem as his own. Also the DNS protocol is not vulnerable in itself nor is it a security risk. The security problem is not in the DNS protocol but in the transport protocol used for DNS transactions. In this case it is the UDP protocol that is vulnerable to attack. This problem has existed for at least 15 years. I remember it existed in the 1990's when I was commissioned to investigate vulnerabilities in military DNS servers. So the Kaminisky claim he discovered anything significant is simply untrue. The Kaminisky affair was more a co-ordinated effort to scare business into adopting a protocol that reverse engineers the Internet in a effort to centralize control of the DNS protocol in the root servers operated by the U.S. government through ICANN its contractor. That protocol DNSSEC has been actively marketed as the solution to the Kaminisky cache poisoning problem. DNSSEC addresses the problem by inserting encryption keys into the DNS that establish a chain of trust from domain names to the root servers operated by the U.S. government. This places a significant amount of control in the hands of one government authority. It also will cost business a fortune to adopt. And Internet DNS traffic is also expected to increase exponentially as every DNS answer must contain encryption key information. Furthermore DNSSEC does not actually fix the problem. The issue as mentioned above is a problem with the UDP protocol and verifying that the DNS information your system requested actually coming from the machine you requested it from. The centralization of DNS encryption keys in the root is a very expensive process that is simply not needed. To fix the UDP problem one only has to ensure that the answers come from the server we are communicating with. Since UDP unlike the TCP protocol has no handshaking capabilities one simply fixes the problem by incorporating a handshaking protocol within UDP and DNS that confirms the server we are getting answer from is the server we originally communicated with. A solution to this problem is available and was developed a few years ago by Dr. Bernstein at the University of Illinois at Chicago. It's called DNSCurve and fixes the problem through a simple key exchange between DNS servers without having to hand over control of the DNS to a central authority. regards joe baptista

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The economics of DNScurve vs DNSSEC and the rational mind
by Joe Baptista Jan. 3, 2010

Jan. 3, 2010

OK let's examine the basic economic of DNSSEC vs DNSCurve. We use a number of assumptions to arrive at the economic costs. 1) Both protocols solve the Bernstein/Kaminsky issue with respect to the UDP vulnerability. At least I have faith DNSSEC will eventually work but I'm sure DNScurve is a gurantee. 2) DNSSEC goes further by putting control of the DNS in the root effectively centralizing control in the hands of the people who run the root. 3) Both protocols require DNS server developers to implement them into their software. Most servers in the wild are now DNSSEC aware. 4) DNSSEC requires that hundreds if not thousands of millions of domain owners sign their domains and hand over control to the master DNS key holder Uncle Sam and associated cronies. 5) DNSSEC has already generated hundreds of millions of dollars in economic benefits. Just you wait till you see the U.S. tax bill for implementing DNSSEC for .gov. I'm sure that will be an eye opener. 6) DNScurve will not have much of an economic impact. Users and domain owners won't even notice its there. So to sum up .... 1) They both solve the problem. 2) DNScurve will cost joe public zero $$$ to implement saving them lots of money. But on the downside there are going to be a lot of unemployed DNSSEC consultants. 3) DNSSEC will cost joe public and the business community billions to implement - ICANN will be given a monopoly over the DNS - and an entire new industry is born. In todays economic times I think DNScurve wins the day. Anyone disagree? regards joe baptista

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Weekly posting summary for alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Jan. 1, 2010

Jan. 1, 2010

Total of 29 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Jan 1 00:53:02 EST 2010 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 13.79% | 4 | 14.58% | 29321 | james at seng.sg 13.79% | 4 | 14.22% | 28602 | joly at punkcast.com 6.90% | 2 | 8.55% | 17190 | cdel at firsthand.net 6.90% | 2 | 7.99% | 16062 | patrick at vande-walle.eu 6.90% | 2 | 7.07% | 14222 | baptista at publicroot.org 6.90% | 2 | 6.59% | 13257 | evan at telly.org 6.90% | 2 | 5.85% | 11753 | johnl at iecc.com 6.90% | 2 | 5.73% | 11516 | karl at cavebear.com 3.45% | 1 | 4.23% | 8503 | hongxueipr at gmail.com 3.45% | 1 | 3.95% | 7944 | danielmonastersky at gmail.com 3.45% | 1 | 3.61% | 7249 | sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr 3.45% | 1 | 3.29% | 6621 | derek at aa419.org 3.45% | 1 | 3.25% | 6532 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca 3.45% | 1 | 3.06% | 6151 | narten at us.ibm.com 3.45% | 1 | 2.92% | 5881 | vb at bertola.eu 3.45% | 1 | 2.62% | 5278 | franck.martin at gmail.com 3.45% | 1 | 2.48% | 4995 | jmamodio at gmail.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 29 |100.00% | 201077 | Total

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC-ExCom] All the Very Best Wishes to you all...
by Daniel Monastersky Dec. 31, 2009

Dec. 31, 2009

The best wishes to all of you. Sincerely, Daniel Monastersky IIISI Rep LACRALO 2009/12/23, Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr>: > Thanks all. > A lot of good wishes for each of you for the Season Greetings and New Year. > > And keeping the luck for all of us for next year specially in travelling. > > All the best > > Sébastien Bachollet > Président d'honneur - Isoc France > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : alac-excom-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-excom- >> bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Carlton Samuels >> Envoyé : mercredi 23 décembre 2009 18:34 >> À : Cheryl Langdon-Orr >> Cc : ISOC-AU Board Members List; alac-excom(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; >> At-Large Worldwide >> Objet : Re: [ALAC-ExCom] All the Very Best Wishes to you all... >> >> Thanks Cheryl. ANd Every Good Wish to You and Yours for the Season and >> New >> Year. >> >> Um, last night AA331 - a flight I take regularly when I route via MIA >> to KIN >> - approached in a rainstorm and overran the runway at KIN and broke >> into two >> pieces. Apparently the pilot didn't put it on the deck at the right >> place. >> Happily, nobody died but about 90 of the 154 aboard were injured. >> Airport >> since reopened and the NTSB folks are on spot investigating. >> >> My luck's still holding......most recent aboard that flight last >> Thursday >> night.......... >> >> Carlton >> ======================================================================= >> ============ >> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr >> <langdonorr(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >> > Wishing each and everyone of you (and yours) all the very best of >> Seasonal >> > Greetings and looking forward to working with you all in 2010... For >> those >> > of you travelling in the next few day (weather permitting ;-)- Travel >> Safe; >> > and the may time you spend with family and friends be everything you >> want >> > it >> > to be... >> > >> > [image: Free Desktop Themes] >> > >> > -- from me (and mine) >> > Cheryl Langdon-Orr >> > (CLO) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ALAC-ExCom mailing list >> > ALAC-ExCom(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-excom_atlarge- >> lists.icann.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC-ExCom mailing list >> ALAC-ExCom(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-excom_atlarge- >> lists.icann.org > > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil

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