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Streamlining of email lists
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

Dear All: In the most recent meeting of the At-Large Advisory Committee, it was resolved to simplify the worldwide set of email lists and to delete the -ALS lists in each region, leaving only the -Discuss lists. This will be done today FYI. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [At-Large] Geographic diversity in the NARALO
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

John and Alan, I stand corrected on the Bylaw provision. That said, the requirement of different countries is present in all the other regional MoUs. As to your point about relative population, this could have been said in other regions as well. China and India could have argued this point in Asia, others in LAC, others still in Europe. Nobody has done so. At the UN, voting could be based upon population, or economic output, GDP, or other statistics but it is not; it is based upon the one country, one vote principle. That is the principle which the 'residents or nationals' provision seeks to continue in ICANN. ICANN, as everyone knows, has in the past been criticised for being too US-centric, and also too Western-centric, as well as too English-centric. I would ask you all to consider the message that would be sent if North America were to adopt less diversity guarantees than any other region. 'One man, one vote' is widely admired as a fundamentally important principle. In international relations, the equivalent principle of 'one country, one vote' is also equally fundamentally important. I have a query in on the geographic diversity provision and the different countries question. I'll let everyone know what I hear back... On 19/05/07, John L <johnl(a)iecc.com> wrote: > > Article 5.4.1 of our current MOU states: > > > > "Selected individuals must be individual members or members of different > > At-Large Structures based in different countries in the North American > > region, and they may not be citizens of the same country." > > Well, OK, now it's not in the bylaws, now it's in the proposed MOU. I'm > getting the impression this is a rule that someone made up one day and > said "it's always been that way." ICANN evidently places no requirements > on RALO appointed members other than that they be residents of the region. > > As I hardly need to remind people, the NA region consists, unlike any > other region, of only two countries, one of which is ten times as > populous as the other. While I think it is important to encourage > geographic diversity, I don't think anyone would favor a rule that > required that one member always be from Califonia. Yet California has the > same population as Canada. When the Nomcom member is from Canada (who, > incidentally, I think is doing a fine job, this isn't about him), this > rule would in effect give Canadians twenty times the per capita vote of > Americans. > > I would adjust that section to say: > > "Selected individuals must be individual members or members of different > At-Large Structures based the North American region. To the maximum > extent feasible, the selected individuals should represent the geographic > and cultural diversity of the region." > > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", > Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor > "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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ISOC launches Call for PIR Board Member Nominations
by Franck Martin May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

Not sure you have seen this call, but this is a good place to shape the DNS space the way it should be ;) http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/releases/070511.shtml ISOC launches Call for PIR Board Member Nominations The Internet Society (ISOC) seeks a maximum of three highly qualified individuals to serve on the Board of Directors of the Public Interest Registry (PIR) for the period 2008-2010. PIR's business is managing an international registry of .org domain names. The Board meets in person 3-4 times per year. The time commitment is approximately 14-18 full days per year plus additional phone calls and e-mail. Qualifications sought include: - Demonstrated business acumen with significant entrepreneurial, non-commercial and/or marketing skills; - understanding and engagement in the retail domain name space; - known contributor to the ICANN processes; - financial literacy; - expertise in the application of Internet technologies to support non-commercial organizations; and - experience with the operation and policies of TLD registries. - Global diversity in candidates is desired. Please forward a statement of interest and qualifications, three references, and a curriculum vitae highlighting relevant experience, expertise, and contact information to: *Lynn St. Amour, President and CEO, Internet Society * Email: pir-nomcomm(a)isoc.org. Please submit materials in attached documents (pdf, .doc, .txt) For full consideration, please apply by June 11th, 2007. Applications will be evaluated as they are received. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Franck Martin franck.martin(a)gmail.com "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" G. Bachelard

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ConfirmSystem: registrar@icann.org [[c14efbee4238265b]]
by confirmsystem＠icann.org May 24, 2007

May 24, 2007

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by confirmsystem＠icann.org May 24, 2007

May 24, 2007

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Re: [At-Large] [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
by Jacqueline A. Morris May 24, 2007

May 24, 2007

Hi Wolfgang Carlos Aguirre is the ALAC/NCUC liaison... can you keep him in the loop with this as well as Nick? Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:46 AM To: Annette Muehlberg; sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up Dear list Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the Non-Commercial User Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on Freedom of Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007. What do you think, should we consider to do the two workshops under one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The two workshops are totally independent but complement each other. Each unit would be responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from the joint advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation. And we would give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal, that th voice of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder. Any comments? Wolfgang ________________________________ Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg@web.de] Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37 An: sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up Sébastien, Wolfgang, I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD meeting, as we are working on .berlin what is the current plan? best annette Sébastien Bachollet schrieb: > Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2 important points. > About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in setting up the > meeting especially because we started some work on .paris. > > I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming 8th meeting of the > ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an EURALO outreach > meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) but I think is a good idea. > > I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just before the Icann meeting > in Europe) and I think we need to do also something about Euralo. > > All the best > > > Sébastien Bachollet > Président > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Wolfgang > Kleinwächter > Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 > À : Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large Europe; Nick > Ashton-Hart > Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss > Objet : Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > Sorry I forgot the proposals: > > 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on geographical > TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs. Consumer Choice: > The User Interests in GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in Lisbon, there is a > growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc, .cym, .sco, .london etc) > and there are two main arguments in favour and against. In Germany the local > government which operates berlin.de argues that .berlin would create > consumer confusion while the federal parliament just recently adopted a > resolution arguing GEO-TLDs like .munich, .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or > .leipzig would bring more competition and more consumer choice. I expect > that the ICANN Board if it has to take decisions on such TLDs (based on the > GNSO Policy paper and the GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the > user perspective and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the > preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan. > > 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN Studienkreis > (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, > October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central and Eastern Europe. I ask all ALS and > other friends of EURALO to send me contcats so that we can do outrech and > invite speakers. I will work together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input > from ISOC Europe is welcome. > > Best > > wolfgang > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i cann.org Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.7/816 - Release Date: 5/23/2007 3:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.7/816 - Release Date: 5/23/2007 3:59 PM

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NA conference call ?
by Mr. Robert Guerra May 24, 2007

May 24, 2007

As new ALS's have recently joined from the NA region, might I suggest a regional conference call be scheduled. The purpose of the call would be to have a round of introductions of the ALS's and a presentation of the different topics being discussed at a regional level on the NA list. I believe a call would be constructive in building community and bring an understanding on the viewpoints that exist (which may, or not agree). As for a date - let me suggest a call on or before the first week in June. regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)privaterra.org> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377

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My new blog
by Vittorio Bertola May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

All, I have finally managed to set up a blog in English about ICANN and Internet Governance issues. I plan to use it to post my updates as a Board liaison (in addition to those given directly to the Committee) and for what regards the other processes I am involved in, to spread news and encourage discussion. Don't expect too many posts, but I'll try to use it whenever there is information that needs to be circulated, statements and explanations to be posted, or other blog postings that I'd like to comment ;) The URL is http://bertola.eu/netblog/ and of course, feel free to forward to other RALOs and lists that might be interested in it. Regards, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------

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Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Reason for NO vote for Telecommunities Canada's ALS application
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

Danny, a point on this subject, for my edification if it isn't too much trouble. When the ICANN Bylaws refer to the NCUC in Article X, S5(1)(d), it states: e. Non-Commercial Users (representing the full range of non-commercial entity users of the Internet If one looks at the normal meaning of these words, I would take from it that the NCUC was designed to represent not individual Internet users, but non-commercial legally-constituted (or even not legally constituted) ENTITIES in a comprehensive way. Of course, this would apply to NGOs, and could apply to any NGO, but was that the design of this constituency? I gather that the original idea was that this was for the universities where the Internet was once managed, and other organisations of that type. This is of course not by way of saying that anyone should be excluded - on the contrary - just that it seems you are suggesting that we all blur the lines between individual Internet users' representatives (At-Large) and everyone else non-commercial (NCUC) very considerably. Is that actually beneficial? If you were to do that, then you would end up with duplicative structures, surely? Or are you actually advocating that the two constituencies should be merged together? I very much hope this does not launch a lot of disgruntlement or disagreeableness as that's far from the point (and I fail to see how it would actually bring much benefit) - I'm asking genuine questions here, not presuming the answers (I don't think). On 22/05/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > So why not do the right thing and refer them instead > to the Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC)? > > > --- Luc Faubert <LFaubert(a)conceptum.ca> wrote: > > > Alan, > > > > Thanks for you thorough reply. I appreciate. > > > > >From what I understand of the history behind the > > wording to the effect that orgs certified as ALSes > > should be user-driven, it was meant as a protection > > against lobbying groups. It would be a shame if this > > kept legitimate orgs of orgs out of the process, as > > these are sometimes the only orgs with the human > > resources to invest in the demanding task of > > following ICANN-related activites. > > > > Let's hope ALAC can clear things up before long, as > > another org of orgs from Canada has applied for > > certification (Communautique, an org a bit like TC > > in French-speaking Québec). > > > > Regards, > > > > > > _________________________________________ > > Luc Faubert > > Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du > > changement / > > IT governance and change management consulting > > +1 514 236 5129 > > www.LucFaubert.com > > www.LucFaubert.com/blog > > www.isoc.qc.ca > > www.ccig.ca > > www.uqbm.qc.ca > > www.maillons.qc.ca > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC mailing list > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org > ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Article on ICANN on eweek.com
by Jacqueline A. Morris May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

FYI Good News from ICANN By HYPERLINK "http://www.eweek.com/author_bio/0,1908,a=2299,00.asp"Larry Seltzer May 18, 2007 A deal to resolve the Registerfly crisis, attention to important technical problems and an appearance in the United States are on tap for ICANN. Read the story - link below HYPERLINK "http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2133111,00.asp?kc=EWKNLSTE052207FEA1"h ttp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2133111,00.asp?kc=EWKNLSTE052207FEA1 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM

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