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Yom Kippur
by Vanda Scartezini Sept. 23, 2023

Sept. 23, 2023

To all celebrating this occasion a peaceful and joyful Yom Kippur with all you love! Chag Sameach!! Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPhone Sorry for typos

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DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not others?
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Sept. 19, 2023

Sept. 19, 2023

"*Developers of major pieces of internet software, including the world’s most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously outdated lists of top-level domains.* That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD operator’s quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and many others including major dot-brands, as valid." ....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or tapped without the need for copy/paste. But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out to find out why. Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even .verisign missed the cut-off. If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist. .....During the course of a discussion <https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807> on the web site of the Public Suffix List — which maintains an open-source list of all TLDs and the levels at which names may be registered — it was discovered that the problem may be deeper rooted than the WhatsApp app. It turns out a library in the Android operating system <https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks…> contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since November 24, 2015" Read full article : https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not… Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh

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Re: [At-Large] [AFRI-Discuss] AFRINIC is not undergoing liquidation. The Court has appointed a Receiver and hopefully Afrinic will be back to normal.
by TYokunbo Abiola Sept. 16, 2023

Sept. 16, 2023

Thanks for the update, Dave. Regards,Adetokunbo Abiola. On Saturday, 16 September 2023 at 07:09:59 GMT+1, Thoko Miya via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: Thank you for sharing the update Dave, We welcome news of moves made towards the appointment of Mr Virasami, the Receiver. I think it must be noted that AFRINIC as a registered organisation as mentioned above - remains established as an RIR to share in and express the interests of the community to which it serves. Therefore it must be noted the process and application of a receiver as noted should extend to clarify in whos interests they stand. We as the ALS community are fully in support of this process and look forward to the future of AFRINIC, to the appointment of a new board and consequently I would like to stress: The composition of the board is critical and therefore we humbly ask that the identification, vetting and appointment be, respectfully, a transparent process that duly reflects the needs of the community but also appoints the most relevant, qualified and also active candidates to the position. Kind regardsThoko Miya On Sat, 16 Sept 2023 at 00:41, Tijani via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: Thank you Raymond ; my comments inline Thanks Dave for this update. But from the publication which you shared earlier it was Clouds that took AFRINIC to court of which this judgement was given. Absolutely. For the record, its leaser qualified this judgment of “Historic” Furthermore, from the same publication Cloud argued that the AFRINIC legal team does not have the legal rights to act on behalf of them.Right, and the court kicked the AFRINIC attorney out in full harmony with Cloud leader Do you have any idea in whose interest the receiver is most likely to act? Anything on his profile for consideration? You are right to ask such question considering the above Furthermore, wouldn't it rather be better for the court to give the mandate to the already existing structures of AFRINIC such as the current board members to act in the roles the receiver is acting? Agree, with the court overseeing the election of the new board I seriously hope things get to normal soon, however, I don't see anything to jubilate about yet. Me too, I do hope that AFRINIC go to normal, for the interest of the African community Regards, Raymond Mamattah Accra, Ghana On Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 8:49 PM Bram Fudzulani via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: Thanks Dave for sharing this milestone which is indeed worth celebrating as it gives hope of AFRINIC’s future. Kudos to the Supreme Court judge for this decision. Kind Regards Bram Sent from my iPhone. iTypo. iSorry. > On 15 Sep 2023, at 10:39 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal via At-Large <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > > > Dear Community Members, > > We, the African Internet community have been reasonably concerned > following the news that AFRINIC has come under receivership. A Receiver > Manager for AFRINIC has been appointed by the Supreme Court in > Mauritius. In my humble opinion, there is no need for undue alarm. A > similar option was actually discussed during the recent AFRALO General > Assembly in Accra, Ghana in July 2023. We proposed that AFRINIC should > make an application to the Judge in Chamber of the Supreme Court in > Mauritius for the holding of the AFRINIC Board elections under the Court > supervision to bring back AFRINIC to its functional board and directorship. > > It is important to clarify that the community should not mistake this > situation for liquidation, as AFRINIC is not in a state of liquidation. > > Credit is due to the Judge of the Supreme Court of Mauritius for > appointing a Receiver Manager, Mr. Virasami. Mr. Virasami's role will > primarily involve safeguarding the institution's interests and assets, > overseeing the upcoming Board elections in accordance with AFRINIC's > constitution, and appointing a CEO. He is expected to organize the > Afrinic Board elections within six months, with provisions for extension > if deemed necessary. This process aims to restore the effective > management of the institution through a properly constituted Board and > Directorship. > > For your information, AFRINIC is registered in Mauritius as a Private > Company, Limited by Guarantee, in accordance with the Companies Act 2001 > of Mauritius, bearing File Number C49338 and Business Registration > Number C06049338. > > As AFRINIC operates in accordance with community guidance and its Board is elected by the community, it's crucial to acknowledge that the Board's composition is a direct reflection of the community's choices. Hence, we respectfully ask Mr. Virasami, the Receiver Manager, to consistently share updates with the community regarding the institution's management activities. > > Kind regards > Dave Kissoondoyal > AFRALO Member > ALAC Member > > -- > -------------------------------------------- > The information in this e-mail including any attachments is confidential. It is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) and cannot be used or shared with any third party without permission. > > -------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Kind regards Thokozile Miya LinkedIn Facebook Twitter +27 (0)76 353 1624 _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [At-Large] [AFRI-Discuss] AFRINIC is not undergoing liquidation. The Court has appointed a Receiver and hopefully Afrinic will be back to normal.
by Tijani Sept. 15, 2023

Sept. 15, 2023

Thank you Raymond ; my comments inline Thanks Dave for this update. But from the publication which you shared earlier it was Clouds that took AFRINIC to court of which this judgement was given. Absolutely. For the record, its leaser qualified this judgment of “Historic” Furthermore, from the same publication Cloud argued that the AFRINIC legal team does not have the legal rights to act on behalf of them.Right, and the court kicked the AFRINIC attorney out in full harmony with Cloud leader Do you have any idea in whose interest the receiver is most likely to act? Anything on his profile for consideration? You are right to ask such question considering the above Furthermore, wouldn't it rather be better for the court to give the mandate to the already existing structures of AFRINIC such as the current board members to act in the roles the receiver is acting? Agree, with the court overseeing the election of the new board I seriously hope things get to normal soon, however, I don't see anything to jubilate about yet. Me too, I do hope that AFRINIC go to normal, for the interest of the African community Regards, Raymond Mamattah Accra, Ghana On Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 8:49 PM Bram Fudzulani via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: Thanks Dave for sharing this milestone which is indeed worth celebrating as it gives hope of AFRINIC’s future. Kudos to the Supreme Court judge for this decision. Kind Regards Bram Sent from my iPhone. iTypo. iSorry. > On 15 Sep 2023, at 10:39 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal via At-Large <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > > > Dear Community Members, > > We, the African Internet community have been reasonably concerned > following the news that AFRINIC has come under receivership. A Receiver > Manager for AFRINIC has been appointed by the Supreme Court in > Mauritius. In my humble opinion, there is no need for undue alarm. A > similar option was actually discussed during the recent AFRALO General > Assembly in Accra, Ghana in July 2023. We proposed that AFRINIC should > make an application to the Judge in Chamber of the Supreme Court in > Mauritius for the holding of the AFRINIC Board elections under the Court > supervision to bring back AFRINIC to its functional board and directorship. > > It is important to clarify that the community should not mistake this > situation for liquidation, as AFRINIC is not in a state of liquidation. > > Credit is due to the Judge of the Supreme Court of Mauritius for > appointing a Receiver Manager, Mr. Virasami. Mr. Virasami's role will > primarily involve safeguarding the institution's interests and assets, > overseeing the upcoming Board elections in accordance with AFRINIC's > constitution, and appointing a CEO. He is expected to organize the > Afrinic Board elections within six months, with provisions for extension > if deemed necessary. This process aims to restore the effective > management of the institution through a properly constituted Board and > Directorship. > > For your information, AFRINIC is registered in Mauritius as a Private > Company, Limited by Guarantee, in accordance with the Companies Act 2001 > of Mauritius, bearing File Number C49338 and Business Registration > Number C06049338. > > As AFRINIC operates in accordance with community guidance and its Board is elected by the community, it's crucial to acknowledge that the Board's composition is a direct reflection of the community's choices. Hence, we respectfully ask Mr. Virasami, the Receiver Manager, to consistently share updates with the community regarding the institution's management activities. > > Kind regards > Dave Kissoondoyal > AFRALO Member > ALAC Member > > -- > -------------------------------------------- > The information in this e-mail including any attachments is confidential. It is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) and cannot be used or shared with any third party without permission. > > -------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [At-Large] [AFRI-Discuss] AFRINIC is not undergoing liquidation. The Court has appointed a Receiver and hopefully Afrinic will be back to normal.
by Dave Kissoondoyal Sept. 15, 2023

Sept. 15, 2023

Dear Raymond, Indeed, Clouds Innovation brought AFRINIC to court, and their legal representatives argued that AFRINIC's lawyers could not continue to represent the organization in the case because they were engaged by a non-conforming board consisting of only four members (where a quorum should comprise a minimum of five out of eight members to pass resolutions). So, what has the Court decided? Clouds Innovation's point was found to be valid. Therefore, In its deliberate judgment, the Court took measures to ensure that the AFRINIC board became quorate, allowing it to make decisions and take resolutions for AFRINIC. That's why the Receiver was appointed. It's important to note that the Receiver's mandate is well-defined and not contingent on taking the interests of one party over another. The Court has done what is defined as per the Mauritian Law. Please have a read at the Mauritius Companies Act 2001 - https://companies.govmu.org/Documents/legislation/Companies%20Act%202001.pdf My personal opinion. Rays of hope and I am confident Afrinic will be back to normal Kind regards Dave On 16/09/2023 00:59, Raymond Mahatma wrote: > Thanks Dave for this update. But from the publication which you shared > earlier it was Clouds that took AFRINIC to court of which this > judgement was given. > > Furthermore, from the same publication Cloud argued that the AFRINIC > legal team does not have the legal rights to act on behalf of them. > > Do you have any idea in whose interest the receiver is most likely to > act? Anything on his profile for consideration? > > Furthermore, wouldn't it rather be better for the court to give the > mandate to the already existing structures of AFRINIC such as the > current board members to act in the roles the receiver is acting? > > I seriously hope things get to normal soon, however, I don't see > anything to jubilate about yet. > > Regards, > > Raymond Mamattah > Accra, Ghana > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 8:49 PM Bram Fudzulani via AFRI-Discuss > <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > > Thanks Dave for sharing this milestone which is indeed worth > celebrating as it gives hope of AFRINIC’s future. > > Kudos to the Supreme Court judge for this decision. > > Kind Regards > Bram > > Sent from my iPhone. iTypo. iSorry. > > > On 15 Sep 2023, at 10:39 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal via At-Large > <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Community Members, > > > > We, the African Internet community have been reasonably concerned > > following the news that AFRINIC has come under receivership. A > Receiver > > Manager for AFRINIC has been appointed by the Supreme Court in > > Mauritius. In my humble opinion, there is no need for undue alarm. A > > similar option was actually discussed during the recent AFRALO > General > > Assembly in Accra, Ghana in July 2023. We proposed that AFRINIC > should > > make an application to the Judge in Chamber of the Supreme Court in > > Mauritius for the holding of the AFRINIC Board elections under > the Court > > supervision to bring back AFRINIC to its functional board and > directorship. > > > > It is important to clarify that the community should not mistake > this > > situation for liquidation, as AFRINIC is not in a state of > liquidation. > > > > Credit is due to the Judge of the Supreme Court of Mauritius for > > appointing a Receiver Manager, Mr. Virasami. Mr. Virasami's role > will > > primarily involve safeguarding the institution's interests and > assets, > > overseeing the upcoming Board elections in accordance with AFRINIC's > > constitution, and appointing a CEO. He is expected to organize the > > Afrinic Board elections within six months, with provisions for > extension > > if deemed necessary. This process aims to restore the effective > > management of the institution through a properly constituted > Board and > > Directorship. > > > > For your information, AFRINIC is registered in Mauritius as a > Private > > Company, Limited by Guarantee, in accordance with the Companies > Act 2001 > > of Mauritius, bearing File Number C49338 and Business Registration > > Number C06049338. > > > > As AFRINIC operates in accordance with community guidance and > its Board is elected by the community, it's crucial to acknowledge > that the Board's composition is a direct reflection of the > community's choices. Hence, we respectfully ask Mr. Virasami, the > Receiver Manager, to consistently share updates with the community > regarding the institution's management activities. > > > > Kind regards > > Dave Kissoondoyal > > AFRALO Member > > ALAC Member > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------------- > > The information in this e-mail including any attachments is > confidential. It is intended solely for the attention and use of > the named addressee(s) and cannot be used or shared with any third > party without permission. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > At-Large mailing list > > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > _______________________________________________ > > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing > of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing > list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy > (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of > Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the > Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style > delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), > and so on. > _______________________________________________ > AFRI-Discuss mailing list > AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss > > Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent > to this list are more accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of > your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing > list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy > (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of > Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the > Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style > delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), > and so on. >

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AFRINIC is not undergoing liquidation. The Court has appointed a Receiver and hopefully Afrinic will be back to normal.
by Dave Kissoondoyal Sept. 15, 2023

Sept. 15, 2023

Dear Community Members, We, the African Internet community have been reasonably concerned following the news that AFRINIC has come under receivership. A Receiver Manager for AFRINIC has been appointed by the Supreme Court in Mauritius. In my humble opinion, there is no need for undue alarm. A similar option was actually discussed during the recent AFRALO General Assembly in Accra, Ghana in July 2023. We proposed that AFRINIC should make an application to the Judge in Chamber of the Supreme Court in Mauritius for the holding of the AFRINIC Board elections under the Court supervision to bring back AFRINIC to its functional board and directorship. It is important to clarify that the community should not mistake this situation for liquidation, as AFRINIC is not in a state of liquidation. Credit is due to the Judge of the Supreme Court of Mauritius for appointing a Receiver Manager, Mr. Virasami. Mr. Virasami's role will primarily involve safeguarding the institution's interests and assets, overseeing the upcoming Board elections in accordance with AFRINIC's constitution, and appointing a CEO. He is expected to organize the Afrinic Board elections within six months, with provisions for extension if deemed necessary. This process aims to restore the effective management of the institution through a properly constituted Board and Directorship. For your information, AFRINIC is registered in Mauritius as a Private Company, Limited by Guarantee, in accordance with the Companies Act 2001 of Mauritius, bearing File Number C49338 and Business Registration Number C06049338. As AFRINIC operates in accordance with community guidance and its Board is elected by the community, it's crucial to acknowledge that the Board's composition is a direct reflection of the community's choices. Hence, we respectfully ask Mr. Virasami, the Receiver Manager, to consistently share updates with the community regarding the institution's management activities. Kind regards Dave Kissoondoyal AFRALO Member ALAC Member -- -------------------------------------------- The information in this e-mail including any attachments is confidential. It is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) and cannot be used or shared with any third party without permission. --------------------------------------------

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Re: [At-Large] At-Large Digest, Vol 181, Issue 2
by Shadrach Ankrah Sept. 14, 2023

Sept. 14, 2023

Thank you Dev for sharing this post. I am excited to know this issue and will read more on this to learn more. On Tue, 12 Sep 2023, 3:17 pm , <at-large-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > Send At-Large mailing list submissions to > at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > at-large-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > at-large-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of At-Large digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not > others? (Dev Anand Teelucksingh) > 2. Re: DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but > not others? (BF) > 3. Re: DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but > not others? (Bill Jouris) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> > To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:42:09 -0400 > Subject: [At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs > but not others? > "*Developers of major pieces of internet software, including the world’s > most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously outdated lists of > top-level domains.* > > That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD operator’s > quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and many others > including major dot-brands, as valid." > ....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or > domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or > tapped without the need for copy/paste. > > But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent > via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, > despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out > to find out why. > > Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized > by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in > November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated > after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains > linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but > .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even > .verisign missed the cut-off. > > If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify > the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist. > > .....During the course of a discussion > <https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807> on the web site of the > Public Suffix List — which maintains an open-source list of all TLDs and > the levels at which names may be registered — it was discovered that the > problem may be deeper rooted than the WhatsApp app. > > It turns out a library in the Android operating system > <https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks…> > contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since > November 24, 2015" > Read full article : > > https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not… > > > Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: BF <betty(a)ipeos.com> > To: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> > Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:59:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: [At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some > TLDs but not others? > Since 2015! > Geez! > > Sent from Android device > > Le 12 sept. 2023 10:42, Dev Anand Teelucksingh via At-Large < > at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit : > > "*Developers of major pieces of internet software, including the world’s > most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously outdated lists of > top-level domains.* > > That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD operator’s > quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and many others > including major dot-brands, as valid." > ....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or > domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or > tapped without the need for copy/paste. > > But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent > via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, > despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out > to find out why. > > Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized > by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in > November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated > after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains > linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but > .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even > .verisign missed the cut-off. > > If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify > the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist. > > .....During the course of a discussion > <https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807> on the web site of the > Public Suffix List — which maintains an open-source list of all TLDs and > the levels at which names may be registered — it was discovered that the > problem may be deeper rooted than the WhatsApp app. > > It turns out a library in the Android operating system > <https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks…> > contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since > November 24, 2015" > Read full article : > > https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not… > > > Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bill Jouris <b_jouris(a)yahoo.com> > To: ICANN At-Large List <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some > TLDs but not others? > He complains that he couldn't get ICANN interested in the problem. It > would be interesting to know just who at ICANN he was talking to. > > Bill Jouris > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_And…> > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:43 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh via At-Large > <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > "*Developers of major pieces of internet software, including the world’s > most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously outdated lists of > top-level domains.* > > That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD operator’s > quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and many others > including major dot-brands, as valid." > ....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or > domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or > tapped without the need for copy/paste. > > But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent > via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, > despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out > to find out why. > > Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized > by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in > November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated > after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains > linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but > .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even > .verisign missed the cut-off. > > If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify > the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist. > > .....During the course of a discussion > <https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807> on the web site of the > Public Suffix List — which maintains an open-source list of all TLDs and > the levels at which names may be registered — it was discovered that the > problem may be deeper rooted than the WhatsApp app. > > It turns out a library in the Android operating system > <https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks…> > contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since > November 24, 2015" > Read full article : > > https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not… > > > Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Africa’s Internet registry placed under receivership
by Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond Sept. 13, 2023

Sept. 13, 2023

For those who are not on the At-Large Skype and for the record, today's news: https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/507882-africas-internet-registry-pl…

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WEBCAST SEP 11-15 South School on Internet Governance / Escuela del Sur de Gobernanza de Internet / Escola Sul sobre Governança da Internet
by Joly MacFie Sept. 11, 2023

Sept. 11, 2023

Massive attendance from multiple countries! 5 Days! The big keynotes will be on at lunchtime today (UTC-3). ¡Asistencia masiva de múltiples países! ¡5 dias! Las grandes conferencias tendrán lugar hoy a la hora del almuerzo (UTC-3). Participação massiva de vários países! 5 dias! As grandes palestras acontecerão na hora do almoço de hoje (UTC-3). [image: ISOC LIVE] <https://isoc.live/16868>On *Monday-Friday September 11-15 2023* the 2023 the 15th *South School on internet Governance <https://www.gobernanzainternet.org/ssig2023/en/>* will be held in Campina Grande, Brazil. De *segunda a sexta-feira, de 11 a 15 de setembro de 2023*, a 15ª *Escola Sul sobre Governança da Internet <https://www.gobernanzainternet.org/ssig2023/pt/>* será realizada em Campina Grande, Brasil. Del *lunes al viernes 11 al 15 de septiembre de 2023* se llevará a cabo en Campina Grande, Brasil, la 15ª *Escuela del Sur sobre Gobernanza de Internet <https://www.gobernanzainternet.org/ssig2023/>*. *PROGRAM https://www.gobernanzainternet.org/ssig2023/tpl/pdf/ssig_2023.pdf <https://www.gobernanzainternet.org/ssig2023/tpl/pdf/ssig_2023.pdf>* *LIVESTREAM EN/ES/PT https://www.youtube.com/@ssiglac/streams <https://www.youtube.com/@ssiglac/streams>* *TWITTER #SSIGLAC <https://bit.ly/SSIGLAC> @SSIGLAC * *MASTODON #SSIGLAC <https://mastodon.social/tags/SSIGLAC>* -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -

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Request to join At-Large discussion forum
by Faheem Soomro Aug. 20, 2023

Aug. 20, 2023

Hi, This is Faheem Soomro, and want to subscribe to At-Large discussion forum. Please accept my request. Regards, Faheem Soomro

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