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Agenda for Discussion with members of the ICANN Board on Tuesday
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 27, 2007

Oct. 27, 2007

Dear Members: This is a reminder to please provide the topics you wish to discuss with the members of the Board of ICANN on Tuesday between 0900 - 1100 PDT. These can be provided under the agenda item section on the page for that meeting, which can be found at https://st.icann.org/alac/ index.cgi?30_october_2007_bo. FYI, I am informed that At-Large is the only community meeting with the board on Tuesday which has yet to provide the items it wishes to discuss. All members of the community are invited to participate in this meeting - in person if you are in Los Angeles, or via remote participation if you are not present - full details may be found at the above-referenced page. Community members may also provide, via the comment button, topics that they would like to see discussed on the above-referenced page. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 595 85 44 mobile: +41 (79) 595 54 68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Summary of New GTLDs Process available in Spanish, French, and English
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 26, 2007

Oct. 26, 2007

I'm happy to inform you that the Summary of the Final Report on the GNSO New GTLDs Policy is available online from the Los Angeles documents area of the ALAC working Wiki at https://st.icann.org/alac/ index.cgi?los_angeles_documents For those who wish to comment on the process, there is a special email address which you should send to so that your comments can be addressed as part of the Workshop on the New GTLDs Process which is taking place as part of the Los Angeles ICANN Meeting - send to new- gtlds-workshop(a)icann.org For further information on the session itself look at http:// losangeles2007.icann.org/node/45. Plans are underway to allow remote participants to speak telephonically during parts of the meeting - audio streams of the meeting for listening will be available. Simultaneous interpretation in several languages will be provided. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 595 85 44 mobile: +41 (79) 595 54 68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Schedule Conflicts Matrix
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 23, 2007

Oct. 23, 2007

Dear All: I asked a colleague to draw up a document showing the conflicts between the At-Large schedule and the rest of the ICANN LA schedule - it is attached. Hopefully this will help all of you planning on attending the meeting. Fly safe and I'll look forward to seeing you all in a few days! -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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FW: ccTLD IDN
by Jacqueline A. Morris Oct. 22, 2007

Oct. 22, 2007

Resending. From: Jacqueline A. Morris [mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 20:55 To: alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; 'NA Discuss'; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'; 'Asia-Pacific Discuss' Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] FW: ccTLD IDN Importance: High Dear At Large Please take notice of the communication from the ccNSO Chairman below. IDNs are a very important issue, especially to the individual internet user who uses other scripts. The At Large also has a working group on IDNs, chaired by Hong Xue, and you are encouraged to join. At Large IDN Policy work can be found at https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?idn_policy_formation Thanks Jacqueline A. Morris ALAC Chair From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo@auda.org.au] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 21:06 To: 'Jacqueline A. Morris' Cc: Boswinkel, Bart Subject: ccTLD IDN Importance: High Greetings Jacqueline, As you are aware, the ICANN Board resolved in San Juan on 29 June 2007, inter alia, that the ICANN community including the GNSO, ccNSO, GAC, and ALAC continue to work collaboratively, taking the technical limitations and requirements into consideration, to explore both an interim and an overall approach to IDN ccTLDs associated with the ISO 3166-1 two-letter codes and recommend a course of action to the Board in a timely manner. Since San Juan, the ccNSO Council has undertaken a considerable program of work to determine the best way to respond to the Boards request. Overall approach At a meeting on 12 September 2007, in accordance with ICANN bylaws, the ccNSO Council requested an Issue Report be prepared to establish whether the ccNSO should launch a PDP to develop the policy for the selection and delegation of IDN ccTLDs associated with the ISO 3166-1 two letter codes. In preparing the Issue Report the Issue Manager (Bart Boswinkel) should take into account the joint ccNSO GAC Issues Paper, the technical limitations and requirements, and any other matters that the Issues Manager considers to be of relevance. The Issues Report is the first step in the process of launching ccPDP and at large input will be sought throughout the preparation of the Report. Should a ccPDP be launched following the Issues Report, the ccNSO will seek to work closely with the at large community. Interim approach The ccNSO Council agreed that the first step in considering an interim approach should be to determine the extent of the pressing need claimed by some in the community. On 5 October 2007 I sent a letter to all ccTLD managers seeking answers to three questions. I anticipate that the responses to this letter will provide guidance as to whether an interim fast-track approach to enable the introduction of a limited number of IDN ccTLDs is a desirable and necessary step. As there is no pre-defined process to deal with such an interim approach, the ccNSO has released two discussion documents (attached) regarding a possible interim approach to IDN ccTLDs. The Designing an Interim Approach document considers how an interim approach could be managed and canvasses time lines. The Charter IDNC document is a first draft of what the charter for an interim approach committee might look like. The principle of having an interim approach, the results of my letter to ccTLD managers, and these two documents will be discussed by the ccNSO in Los Angeles. As you will appreciate there is some urgency to resolve the issue of an interim approach and this is why the ccNSO is working to a tight schedule. I would hope, in the event that an interim fast-track approach can be developed to enable the deployment of a limited number of IDN ccTLDs into the root, that the timing for this be closely aligned with the release of gTLD IDNs. I shall be grateful if you will forward this email to the ALAC, At Large and RALO lists for their information. Kind Regards, Chris Disspain Chair ccNSO Important Notice - This email may contain information which is confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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New Community input into IGD processes web site.
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Oct. 21, 2007

Oct. 21, 2007

Following is some information about a new web site to facilitate Community input into IGF processes, that some of you may have an interest in contributing to. Firstly let me apologise for the cross posting between lists but it is important IMO that information such as this gets out to the Regional Lists as well as the public At-Large list subscribers. This information was recently posted to the ISOC Public Policy list as well, so some of you no doubt are already aware of this new initiative, but I have been requested by Jeremy Malcolm to assist my spreading the word and encouraging participation from the widest possible audience ( so feel free to pass it on) into this new and important initiative. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) <SNIP> from email previously sent to : plenary(a)intgovforum.org, governance(a)lists.cpsr.org , memberpubpol(a)elists.isoc.org on 19th October 2007. A new Web site for the IGF community has just been launched at http://igf-online.net/ by the Online Collaboration Dynamic Coalition (ODCD), a bottom-up multi-stakeholder working group of the IGF. The new site already hosts a number of useful resources including a community blog, wiki, calendar, chat and needs feeds, most of which were selected for their capacity to support multilingual usage. It also features a specially-designed menu running along the top of most pages of the site, that links in external Web sites including the Secretariat's official Web site and that of the Rio hosts. This new site for the Rio meeting and beyond supersedes last year's site (which, beset by hosting troubles, is currently inaccessible), and thanks to a sponsor's generosity now provides the IGF community with a dedicated server on which a large variety of online tools can be hosted without the limitations of a standard Web hosting service. Members of the IGF community, including dynamic coalitions, are encouraged to begin using the new site now. By registering (or logging in with your existing OpenID) you can begin posting on the community blog, adding events to the calendar, and entering information on the wiki. Hosting of other content will be accommodated on request. Volunteers are needed to help with translating the site's content into other languages, designing a complementary set of themes, and spreading the word. Please contact me or the Online Collaboration Dynamic Coalition if you would like to help, have any trouble using the site, or have any new ideas for it. -- Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}' <end SNIP>

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FW: ccTLD IDN
by Jacqueline A. Morris Oct. 20, 2007

Oct. 20, 2007

Dear At Large Please take notice of the communication from the ccNSO Chairman below. IDNs are a very important issue, especially to the individual internet user who uses other scripts. The At Large also has a working group on IDNs, chaired by Hong Xue, and you are encouraged to join. At Large IDN Policy work can be found at HYPERLINK "https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?idn_policy_formation"https://st.icann.o rg/alac/index.cgi?idn_policy_formation Thanks Jacqueline A. Morris ALAC Chair From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo@auda.org.au] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 21:06 To: 'Jacqueline A. Morris' Cc: Boswinkel, Bart Subject: ccTLD IDN Importance: High Greetings Jacqueline, As you are aware, the ICANN Board resolved in San Juan on 29 June 2007, inter alia, that the ICANN community including the GNSO, ccNSO, GAC, and ALAC continue to work collaboratively, taking the technical limitations and requirements into consideration, to explore both an interim and an overall approach to IDN ccTLDs associated with the ISO 3166-1 two-letter codes and recommend a course of action to the Board in a timely manner. Since San Juan, the ccNSO Council has undertaken a considerable program of work to determine the best way to respond to the Board’s request. Overall approach At a meeting on 12 September 2007, in accordance with ICANN bylaws, the ccNSO Council requested an Issue Report be prepared to establish whether the ccNSO should launch a PDP to develop the policy for the selection and delegation of IDN ccTLDs associated with the ISO 3166-1 two letter codes. In preparing the Issue Report the Issue Manager (Bart Boswinkel) should take into account the joint ccNSO GAC Issues Paper, the technical limitations and requirements, and any other matters that the Issues Manager considers to be of relevance. The Issues Report is the first step in the process of launching ccPDP and at large input will be sought throughout the preparation of the Report. Should a ccPDP be launched following the Issues Report, the ccNSO will seek to work closely with the at large community. Interim approach The ccNSO Council agreed that the first step in considering an interim approach should be to determine the extent of the pressing need claimed by some in the community. On 5 October 2007 I sent a letter to all ccTLD managers seeking answers to three questions. I anticipate that the responses to this letter will provide guidance as to whether an interim fast-track approach to enable the introduction of a limited number of IDN ccTLDs is a desirable and necessary step. As there is no pre-defined process to deal with such an interim approach, the ccNSO has released two discussion documents (attached) regarding a possible interim approach to IDN ccTLDs. The Designing an Interim Approach document considers how an interim approach could be managed and canvasses time lines. The Charter IDNC document is a first draft of what the charter for an interim approach committee might look like. The principle of having an interim approach, the results of my letter to ccTLD managers, and these two documents will be discussed by the ccNSO in Los Angeles. As you will appreciate there is some urgency to resolve the issue of an interim approach and this is why the ccNSO is working to a tight schedule. I would hope, in the event that an interim fast-track approach can be developed to enable the deployment of a limited number of IDN ccTLDs into the root, that the timing for this be closely aligned with the release of gTLD IDNs. I shall be grateful if you will forward this email to the ALAC, At Large and RALO lists for their information. Kind Regards, Chris Disspain Chair – ccNSO Important Notice - This email may contain information which is confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. Please consider the environment before printing this email. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 09:54 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 09:54

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Some issues with displaying IDNs
by Rajnesh D. Singh Oct. 18, 2007

Oct. 18, 2007

There is a nice article by Kim Davies on some of the current difficulties with displaying IDNs. Well worth a read (particularly if you, like me, can read one of the scripts being deployed): ------ Earlier this week, we inserted <http://www.circleid.com/posts/icann_sample_internationalized_domain_test/> eleven new top-level domains in the DNS root zone. These represent the term "test" translated into ten languages, in ten different scripts (Chinese is represented in two different scripts, and Arabic script is used by two different languages). This blog post is not about that. (If you're interested about it, read our report on the delegations <http://www.iana.org/reports/testetal-report-01aug07.htm>.) What I would like to talk about is some of the difficulties we face today in expressing scripts in a consistent way over the Internet. The fact is, whilst we are at the best time in history for having computers represent many different languages clearly and consistently, we are still a long way from the level of support needed to give us strong confidence that people can always see what we intend them to see. Full post here: http://www.circleid.com/posts/7101414_difficulties_displaying_international… -- Kind regards, Rajnesh D. Singh COO, PATARA www.patarapacific.com Chair, ICANN Asia Pacific Regional At-Large Organisation www.apralo.org Chairman, Pacific Islands Chapter, Internet Society www.picisoc.org President, IPv6 Forum Pacific Islands www.ipv6forumpacific.org Director, Pacific Internet Technology Centre www.pacificit.org 310 Princes Road Tamavua Suva Fiji Tel: +679 332 0606 Fax: +679 332 0800 Read my ramblings at http://singh-a-blog.blogspot.com/

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] [At-Large] GNSO working group
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Oct. 16, 2007

Oct. 16, 2007

Danny I'm not sure what the purpose is of the roll call below actually is as that is a 'simple list of ALAC Members' and I understand that a main aim of the WG would be to illicit comment from the At-Large Community... Otherwise it would be a matter of gaining *ALAC member only views* in one of our regular meetings. It appears your measure is based upon traffic to the GNSO- Liaison list and the public one (where this message seems to have gone)... Since the call for the WG went out, and yes it is a tight time frame (which may or may not result in as much input as many of us might hope)... I'd like therefore to point out just few small things that do have I believe some relevance, to what I can only assume is implied criticism of the ALAC:- Alan Greenberg - is the ALAC GNSO liaison so it is literally 'his list' this work is being done on. Do you expect him to respond or reply to each point made by each party throughout the whole process in some form of metric measure? OR as I have assumed, and I suspect many of my fellow ALAC Members have as well, that as GNSO Liaison his role will be to take the lead on preparation of consensus outcomes from the WG process AND to take the lead on this activity on behalf of the ALAC as a whole? Alan, you may wish to clarify your expectations regarding this issue as well. Many ALAC Members will already BE subscribers to this list any way... I know I was but I did take the time to let ALAN know after the call to form the WG and use this list, that I was interested specifically in contributing to the outcomes of the WG process and what I had done THAT DAY to start outreach into my ALS regarding this important issue. Which includes having our ED bring to the WG a consensus view she is having developed by ISOC-AU, when that has happened THEN it will come into this space and the APRALO list... I will be taking the opportunity to input my personal comments into those processes, as this WG needs to develop a Macro view on behalf of At-Large, not be lead in any direction by a few wordy (as I often am) and outspoken people. And we should remember that we are in the EARLY stages of At-Large input processing, comment deadline is set in the time line for the 22nd of October, and in my experience people often work *to* a deadline. Also most ALS's and Internet users will take some considerable amount of the short time allocated, in this process just getting themselves informed and *then* they will (if they can) formulate a response... We must remember we in the ALAC, and the respondents to this WG so far, already have informed opinions and commentaries virtually 'ready to go' on this topic, and/or these issues are part of our core activity of interests. That is NOT the case for all in At-Large and the ALS's in particular. Further we should remember that in some of our ALS's and RALO's no comment does *not mean NO interest* rather it means No major disagreement with what has been said so far. And again we are a way off from final draft time (even in the proposed time course) so minor points and alterations will not come out until then. At this stage we can only hope that general consensus opinion is being built and cross checked. Also you should not expect a plethora of "me to- I say what they said" responses at least from the Asia Pacific Region, it is just not done that way in our region. However it is no doubt important to make timely reminders of the URGENT need for input into this fast tracked process. So to that end I have copied this response to your message to both my RALO and my ALS - where we can only trust the important first stage work is being done (since they had their attention called to it over the weekend) - and wait to see what is posted to the list by the 22nd of October. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 12:37 AM To: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com; 'Alan Greenberg' Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [At-Large] GNSO workign group Jacqueline, Re: Have we had any interest in the wg? Its a very short timeframe, so it should get started on working... Comments received from ALAC members thus far: Mohamed El Bashir -- none Hawa Diakite -- none Alice Wanjira-Munyua -- none Izumi Aizu -- none Cheryl Langdon-Orr -- none Siavash Shahshahani -- none Veronica Cretu -- none Sébastien Bachollet -- none Annette Muehlberg -- none Jacqueline Morris -- none Carlos Aquirre -- none José Ovidio Salgueiro -- none Robert Guerra -- none Beau Brendler -- none Alan Greenberg -- none Comments received from others: Danny Younger Wendy Seltzer Vittorio Bertola Jeff Williams ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org

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New gTLDs Working Group Formation
by Jacqueline A. Morris Oct. 16, 2007

Oct. 16, 2007

Dear At Large The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) has released a summary of the report on the Introduction of new top level domains for the At-Large community's consideration and use at the GNSO's New gTLD Workshop at the ICANN Los Angeles meeting on Monday, 29 October 2007. This document is meant to provide a concise and easy to read summary of the key elements of the Report, and is organized to correspond with the Workshop sessions. At-Large participants (such as the TTCS) are encouraged to consider the summary, and the Report, and submit questions in advance that they would like the Workshop panelists to address on the 29th. The At Large is creating a short term working group to discuss and generate comments for input into the process and transmission to the Board of ICANN. The Working Group will work via a mailing list, and interested persons can subscribe to this list at http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-liaison_atlarge-lists.i cann.org The timeframe for the working group is short, with a deadline of October 25th. A suggested work plan drawn up by a member of the WG is below. You can see that the work will be intense, but it is very important. 1) Timeframe of ad-hoc WG: ends on Thursday 25 Oct. (2) Links to reference documents are provided (3) The 20 GNSO new gTLD recommendations are cited (4) WG members will each draft comments on whatever issues they might have with certain recommendations (5) Initial comments due by 22 October (6) First draft of Final Document (incorporating all comments) by 23 October (7) Final Document by 25 October (8) ALAC reviews WG effort in LA and provides Statement to accompany the Final Document for transmission to the ICANN board. I hope that you will participate as this is a very important issue, with serious ramifications for the future direction of the Internet, and vitally important to individual users. Below please find links to the relevant documents related to the Introduction of New Top Level Domains. We will also shortly be creating a wiki workspace for the working group, but in the meantime, you can find information on the GNSO Liaison wiki page at https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?gnso_liaison. Additional documents: Recent public comments submitted by the community on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtldfinalreport-2007/ The summary of the report on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains : http://ttcsweb.pbwiki.com/f/New+gtlds+workshop+document.pdf (PDF ; 191K) (Thanks to the TTCS, one of our Caribbean ALSes for hosting the pdf) The Actual Report on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains is available in two parts : Part A - http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm Part B - http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-partb-01aug07.htm (As soon as other languages are available, we'll post the links) Please participate! Sincerely Jacqueline A. Morris ALAC Chair No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 15:09

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IDN Wikis Go Live - in 11 Languages - http://idn.icann.org
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 15, 2007

Oct. 15, 2007

From http://icann.org/announcements/announcement-15oct07.htm My Name, My Language, My Internet: IDN Test Goes Live ICANN launches global test of Internationalized Domain Names 15 October 2007 ICANN is celebrating the ability of people to get "My name, My Language. My Internet" wiki pages with the launch of the IDN evaluation with T-Shirts displaying example.test in the 11 languages. MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: Internet users around the globe can now experiment with their name in their language on their Internet with today’s launch of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers live testing of Internationalized Domain Names in 11 languages. “This is one of the most exciting times yet in the development of IDNs,” said Dr Paul Twomey, ICANN’s President and CEO. “Internet users who speak the 11 languages of the test can play a key role in testing how IDNs operate, and help us move toward full implementation for all the languages of the world.” Internet users around the globe can now to access wiki pages with the domain name example.test in the 11 test languages -- Arabic, Persian, Chinese (simplified and traditional), Russian, Hindi, Greek, Korean, Yiddish, Japanese and Tamil. The wikis will allow Internet users to establish their own subpages with their own names in their own language -- one suggestion is: example.test/yourname. ICANN has also put a video explaining the evaluation process on YouTube, and available on the ICANN website. The wiki pages can be accessed by typing example.test in the characters of one of the 11 languages, or by going to http:// idn.icann.org. “These wikipages are key to the test. We want to know how the URL displays in the Internet browser, if it works when you cut and paste it into the body of an email to a friend, and how all of this impacts the root zone,” Dr Twomey added. The 11 evaluation wikis will remain online until IDNs are fully implemented and the first top-level domain is introduced in the evaluation language. The full introduction of IDNs will mean that people can write the whole of a domain name in the characters used to write their own language. Presently you can only use these characters before the dot, so .com, .net, .org and the like can only be written in characters from basic Latin. IDNs will change this so that literally tens of thousands of characters will be available to the world. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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