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IDN ccTLD: Agenda Item for Teleconf tomorrow (28 Aug)
by Rajnesh D. Singh Aug. 28, 2007

Aug. 28, 2007

Colleagues, We have a teleconference scheduled tomorrow. Details here: https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007 One agenda item is a request from APTLD for APRALO's support on a fast-tracked allocation of IDN ccTLDs on a limited basis. Details of this including the APTLD position as a PDF are available at the link above, and I have copied the text of the request below for your convenience. I welcome your comments and input so we can deliberate on this request. Regards, R. -------- Original Message -------- / Raj, / / / / One of the things that we would very much appreciate APRALO considering is the allocation of top level IDN ccTLDs on a very limited basis. / / / / IDN ccTLDs at the top level are the equivalent of the existing ccTLDs (allocated to a country or a territory), but in a script that is more useable to the cc's population. / / / / APTLD prepared the attached proposal for a FastTrack allocation of ccTLD IDN's on a very limited basis while ICANN goes through their more extensive Policy Development Process (which can take two years - or more!). / / / / APTLD has received endorsement from CENTR (the European equivalent of APTLD) who have a number of members directly affected. / / / / In a recent survey of members by both APTLD and CENTR, there were less than a dozen ccTLDs that expressed an interest in participating in the FastTrack option - but those members represent more than 25% of the WORLD's population. / / / / We would very much appreciate it if APRALO could consider supporting this very limited and controlled approach and to vocally show this support at the ICANN meeting LA. Don Hollander, APTLD General Manager / ---------------------------

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] + reminder on teleconf this week]
by Siavash Shahshahani Aug. 28, 2007

Aug. 28, 2007

Having thought long and hard about it the last few days, I have decided to withdraw from candidacy for the Nominating Committee and I hereby notify you to that effect. I will also inform my ALAC colleagues in due time that I do not wish to be considered for the position. I put up my name partly because I knew how hard it was in the past to find someone for the job, partly because I thought I had the over-all necessary qualifications, and also because it was a way of keeping in touch with ICANN. Now that I see enthusiasm for the position among newcomers, I should step aside and let new blood get into the system. I wish to thank all specially Cheryl and Bilal for their support. Regards, Siavash > We have heard from several ALS' that submitting all 3 names to ALAC is > acceptable. > > This being a case of "rough consensus", I will ask our ALAC Reps to > forward the names to ALAC late next week. > I think it would be good if the 3 candidates can provide a short bio to > our ALAC Reps to support their respective case for NomCom selection, and > I would suggest you do this by say Wednesday 29th. > > Also, a reminder that we have a teleconference scheduled for Tuesday > 28th - see https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007 > If you have any items you wish to put on the agenda, please do so at the > link above and join the meeting to elaborate/discuss. > > > Regards, > R. > > > > David Farrar wrote: >> I am happy with all names to go forward. >> >> DPF >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of >> Charles >> Mok >> Sent: 23 August 2007 6:57 p.m. >> To: rajnesh(a)pacificit.org >> Cc: 'Asia-Pacific Discuss' >> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] >> >> Dear all, I am in agreement with Cheryl, Izumi and Rajnesh! >> >> Charles >> ISOC HK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of >> Rajnesh >> D. Singh >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:00 AM >> Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss >> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] >> >> We have views from 3 ALS' (Cheryl, Izumi, Me) thus far that sending all >> names for consideration is a good way forward. >> I would like to hear from at least another 3 or 4, so we have "rough >> consensus". >> >> Alternatively, I would like to hear objections to this. >> >> Izumi - just a minor correction to be pedantic. 2 candidates had process >> issues. I cannot see a process issue with Karaitiana. >> He self-nominated and had a seconder before the deadline. >> >> >> Regards, >> R. >> >> >> Izumi AIZU wrote: >> >>> In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed >>> to have some minor process questions. >>> >>> I agree with Siavash and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not >>> "representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from >>> ALAC to NomCom. >>> >>> If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from >>> ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom >>> becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the >>> representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider >>> governance in my understanding. >>> >>> I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom >>> members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations >>> to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision. >>> >>> So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to >>> send all three candidates. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> izumi >>> >>> 2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh <rajnesh(a)pacificit.org>: >>> >>> >>>> Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position >>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800 >>>> From: Christopher To <christopher(a)hkiac.org> >>>> To: <rajnesh(a)pacificit.org> >>>> CC: Gary Soo <email(a)garysoochambers.hk> >>>> References: <46CBE1AB.9080503(a)pacificit.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rajnesh, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of >>>> *Rajnesh D. Singh >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM >>>> *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss >>>> *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Colleagues, >>>> >>>> The deadline for nominations has closed. >>>> >>>> We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below. >>>> >>>> **CANDIDATE** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **NOMINATED BY** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **ALS** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **NOMINATION DATE** >>>> >>>> Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ISVK-India / >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ISVK-India / >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 14th August 2007 >>>> >>>> Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheryl Langdon-Orr / >>>> >>>> Bilal Beiram >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ISOC-AU / >>>> >>>> AKMS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 15th August 2007 >>>> >>>> Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> New Zealand Maori Internet Society / >>>> Franck Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> New Zealand Maori Internet Society / >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 15th August 2007 >>>> >>>> >>>> Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and >>>> Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has >>>> accepted >>>> the nomination. >>>> >>>> At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus >>>> that >>>> APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within >>>> ALS'. >>>> If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and >>>> functions >>>> could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have >>>> 2 >>>> persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person >>>> nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'. >>>> >>>> If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference >>>> must >>>> be between Nirmol and Karaitiana. >>>> >>>> I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate >>>> nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and >>>> let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach >>>> this decision by the end of this coming weekend. >>>> >>>> I look forward to your input. > > _______________________________________________ > APAC-Discuss mailing list > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org > ------------------------------------------------- IPM/IRNIC P.O.Box 19395-5564, Shahid Bahonar Sq. Tehran 19548, Iran Phone: (+98 21) 22 82 80 80; 22 82 80 81, ext 113 Cell: (+98 912)104 2501 Fax: (+98 21) 22 29 57 00 Email: shahshah(a)irnic.ir, shahshah(a)nic.ir ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- IPM/IRNIC P.O.Box 19395-5564, Shahid Bahonar Sq. Tehran 19548, Iran Phone: (+98 21) 22 82 80 80; 22 82 80 81, ext 113 Cell: (+98 912)104 2501 Fax: (+98 21) 22 29 57 00 Email: shahshah(a)irnic.ir, shahshah(a)nic.ir -----------------------------------------------

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] pacific update
by Hong Xue Aug. 28, 2007

Aug. 28, 2007

Thanks for letting us know this initiative. It's well worth the reference of the other cctlds. Hong On 8/28/07, Karaitiana Taiuru <karaitiana(a)taiuru.maori.nz> wrote: > > With the recent discussions of IDN implementation and the fact that we > represent a proportion of the world that have plethora of various languages, > i thought some of you may be interested in what Maori are proposing in NZ. > We are asking for a bilingual DNS for .nz . > > I imagine that there will be other cultures doing the same thing in the > future. > > Our proposal can be found here: > http://www.amio.maori.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?p=485 > > > Karaitiana Taiuru > http://www.taiuru.maori.nz > Personal Ramblings: http://www.taiuru.maori.nz/blog/ > LinkedIn: Karaitiana > Skype: Ktaiuru > > _______________________________________________ > APAC-Discuss mailing list > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org >

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pacific update
by Karaitiana Taiuru Aug. 27, 2007

Aug. 27, 2007

With the recent discussions of IDN implementation and the fact that we represent a proportion of the world that have plethora of various languages, i thought some of you may be interested in what Maori are proposing in NZ. We are asking for a bilingual DNS for .nz . I imagine that there will be other cultures doing the same thing in the future. Our proposal can be found here: <http://www.amio.maori.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?p=485>http://www.amio.maori.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?p=485 Karaitiana Taiuru http://www.taiuru.maori.nz Personal Ramblings: http://www.taiuru.maori.nz/blog/ LinkedIn: Karaitiana Skype: Ktaiuru

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Fwd: [icann-staff] Assistance with translation
by Nick Ashton-Hart Aug. 27, 2007

Aug. 27, 2007

Dear All: I hope that some of you will feel able to help out with this important work :) Begin forwarded message: > From: Paul Twomey <paul.twomey(a)icann.org> > Date: 27 August 2007 06:52:57 BDT > To: "Icann-Staff(a)Icann.Org Icann-Staff(a)Icann.Org" <icann- > staff(a)icann.org> > Subject: [icann-staff] Assistance with translation > > Dear Colleagues: > > As you will remember, an email was sent out requesting for > volunteers to check and correct translations of ICANN documents on > 11th July. Whilst a couple of volunteers did step forward, we are > still well-short of the 5 checkers per language that we require, > and it is essential that we have at least five well in advance of > the Los Angeles meeting in order to meet the demands for > multilingual documents which that meeting will impose on us. > > At the same time, we are trying not to ask members of the Staff to > volunteer for this task - as you are all fully occupied doing your > non-translation-related job. Ideally we are looking for members of > the ICANN community to help us out with this key, urgent need. > > It would therefore be a great help if you could pass along the text > of the email below - modified if you think that's needed - to the > constituencies that each of you work with. > > Many thanks in advance for your help with this crucial task! > > Paul T > ------ > > Dear Colleagues: > > As you know, ICANN is working to provide more access to its key > documents in non-English editions. > > What you may not know is that each translated document must be > checked before it is made publicly by someone either on the staff, > or in the ICANN community, who is fluent in both English and the > language of the translated text, to ensure that the quality of the > translation is good, but also that ICANN-specific terminology and > phrases are correctly rendered in the translated text. > > The increase in volume of translated documents means that the > existing pool of translation checkers is no longer sufficient to > the task. > > If we could get an additional five checkers in the languages listed > below, by rotating through the list of checkers we could ensure > that the 'fatigue factor' was removed for a good while - and also > increase the capacity of the system to release translations in a > more timely fashion. > > Do you know anyone who would be happy to help? Do you speak any of > these languages (alongside English) with sufficient skill to > volunteer yourself? > > If the answer to either of those questions is "yes" please send an > email to: trans-comm(a)icann.org, with the following information: > > 1) Name of the Checker > 2) Languages they can check > 3) Contact info for the person (an email address and, if possible, > a phone number too) > > The languages we need are: > > Spanish > Brazilian Portuguese > French > Arabic > Russian > Chinese > > Please note that no assumptions should be made that the above- > listed languages represent anything more than languages in which > translated texts of some documents will be made available from time > to time, and for which we need checkers in the interim period > whilst a more holistic enterprise-wide approach to multilingualism > is developed in concert with the community. > > There will be some special 'thank yous' to the people who help with > this task over time - but the biggest thank you will be from the > community themselves. Because of these key people, more people will > be able to participate in the work of ICANN throughout the world, > and a greater diversity of views and a richer debate will be had by > all stakeholders. > > We hope you will pass this along to suitable potential checkers and > thanks in advance for your help! > > -- > Regards, > > The ICANN Translations Committee > > trans-comm(a)icann.org >

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Reminder: Teleconference TOMORROW, 28th August
by Nick Ashton-Hart Aug. 27, 2007

Aug. 27, 2007

Dear All: This is a (belated) reminder of the monthly teleconference taking place tomorrow, 28th August, details as follow also at https:// st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007. PLEASE NOTE: I may be unable to attend tomorrow as I'm in the process of moving from the UK to Geneva 28-30 August APRALO Teleconference for August 2007 Date: 28 August 2007 APRALO Teleconference Time: 0600 UTC (for the time in various timezones click here) Summary Minutes: Meeting Summary 28 August 2007 Transcription: Transcription 28 August 2007 Recording: Available 48 Hours after meeting A G E N D A Agenda is in draft form until adoption at the beginning of the meeting. Documents are linked for download next to the agenda items they belong to where available Attendance: Apologies: Adoption of the Agenda Adoption of the Minutes of the Previous Meeting: 25 July 2007 Matters Arising from these Minutes * APRALO meetings * Issues Working Groups (including any Reports) * Outreach efforts - APNG Camp Budget Information regarding the mechanism for Statement Development that is used in auDA Policy Making WEB PAGE. However in Synopsis: auDA uses a variety of advisory panels, committees (standing and ad hoc), and other consultative groups to help it develop policies and practices that are appropriate for the Australian environment, and responsive to user needs. These groups operate according to a few basic general principles: * membership is voluntary (but auDA has discretion to provide financial assistance where required) * members are appointed on the basis of their individual skills and experience, as well as the stakeholder interests they represent * meeting minutes are published on the auDA website * draft proposals and recommendations are released for public comment, before being submitted for auDA approval * secretariat support is provided by auDA. 4. Working Group Liaisons from APRALO - ALAC Reps to brief on needs ALAC Working Groups currently (or soon) requiring input. Assembly-wg no description available Idn-wg Idn-wg Policy Discussion IPv6-WG IPv4 - IPv6 Migration issues Working Group RAA-WG RAA Working Group Whois-wg Whois-wg Policy Discussion 5. Keith Davidson will present APTLD's case, regarding the approach from APTLD to support their stand on IDN ccTLD (see Attachment section for document, and text of request from Don Hollander is below) REQUEST FROM APTLD: One of the things that we would very much appreciate APRALO considering is the allocation of top level IDN ccTLDs on a very limited basis. IDN ccTLDs at the top level are the equivalent of the existing ccTLDs (allocated to a country or a territory), but in a script that is more useable to the cc's population. APTLD prepared the attached proposal for a FastTrack allocation of ccTLD IDN's on a very limited basis while ICANN goes through their more extensive Policy Development Process (which can take two years - or more!). APTLD has received endorsement from CENTR (the European equivalent of APTLD) who have a number of members directly affected. In a recent survey of members by both APTLD and CENTR, there were less than a dozen ccTLDs that expressed an interest in participating in the FastTrack option - but those members represent more than 25% of the WORLD's population. We would very much appreciate it if APRALO could consider supporting this very limited and controlled approach and to vocally show this support at the ICANN meeting LA. Current Activity to date in the ALAC WG on this matter can be found at https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?alac_idn_working_group Discussion of the matter and consideration of the following Proposed Motion:- 'That APRALO support the "very limited and controlled approach"; for an allocation of ccTLD IDN's, as proposed by the APTLD, for a FastTrack allocation of ccTLD IDN's, while ICANN goes through their more extensive Policy DevelopmentProcess; and to vocally show this support at the ICANN meeting LA.' Proposed: CLO Seconded: Any Other Business Remote Participation Access PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION Please join MR NICK ASHTON HART on AUG-28-2007 (Monday) at 06:00 AM UNIVERSAL TIME. Access information is below. CALL DATE: AUG-28-2007 (Monday) CALL TIME: 06:00 UNIVERSAL TIME DURATION: 1 hr PASSCODE: 6014169 LEADER: MR NICK ASHTON HART DIAL-IN NUMBERS: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number AUSTRALIA 61-2-8211-1396 1-800-758-196 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-80-003 0800-677-861 BELGIUM 32-1-150-0312 0800-4-9471 BRAZIL 0800-8912026 CHILE 1230-020-2453 CHINA* 10800-712-1202 10800-120-1202 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156439 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-16 DENMARK 45-7014-0239 8088-2100 FINLAND 358-106-33-149 0-800-1-12771 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-76 080-563-9909 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-76 080-563-9909 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-75-25-35 080-563-9909 GERMANY 49-69-2222-3198 0800-101-6627 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0674 00800-12-6609 HONG KONG 852-2286-5642 800-968-764 HUNGARY 06-800-17241 INDIA 000-800-852-1218 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3502 IRELAND 353-1-247-5274 1800-992-870 ISRAEL 1-80-9303035 ITALY 39-02-3601-0953 800-985-849 JAPAN 81-3-5539-5164 0034-800-40-0719 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1351 MALAYSIA 1-800-80-8124 MEXICO 001-866-627-0579 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8530 0800-023-4392 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4646 0800-447-834 NORWAY 47-21-59-00-49 800-15497 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072083 POLAND 00-800-1211184 PORTUGAL 8008-12439 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-9873011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9208 800-120-4284 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-16 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-93384 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1062 00798-14800-6326 SPAIN 34-91-414-40-78 800-098-194 SWEDEN 46-8-505-96-328 0200-897-068 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-4210 0800-000-782 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7358 00801-137-694 THAILAND 001-800-1206-65092 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9016 0800-279-3590 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3216 0800-279-3590 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2116 0800-279-3590 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7950-6551 0800-279-3590 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1416 0800-279-3590 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3431 USA 1-210-795-1143 866-297-1588 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-2797 *Access to your conference call will be either of the numbers listed, dependent on the participants' local telecom provider Restrictions may exist when accessing freephone/toll free numbers using a mobile telephone. 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Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] + reminder on teleconf this week
by Rajnesh D. Singh Aug. 26, 2007

Aug. 26, 2007

We have heard from several ALS' that submitting all 3 names to ALAC is acceptable. This being a case of "rough consensus", I will ask our ALAC Reps to forward the names to ALAC late next week. I think it would be good if the 3 candidates can provide a short bio to our ALAC Reps to support their respective case for NomCom selection, and I would suggest you do this by say Wednesday 29th. Also, a reminder that we have a teleconference scheduled for Tuesday 28th - see https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007 If you have any items you wish to put on the agenda, please do so at the link above and join the meeting to elaborate/discuss. Regards, R. David Farrar wrote: > I am happy with all names to go forward. > > DPF > > -----Original Message----- > From: apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Charles > Mok > Sent: 23 August 2007 6:57 p.m. > To: rajnesh(a)pacificit.org > Cc: 'Asia-Pacific Discuss' > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] > > Dear all, I am in agreement with Cheryl, Izumi and Rajnesh! > > Charles > ISOC HK > > -----Original Message----- > From: apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rajnesh > D. Singh > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:00 AM > Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] > > We have views from 3 ALS' (Cheryl, Izumi, Me) thus far that sending all > names for consideration is a good way forward. > I would like to hear from at least another 3 or 4, so we have "rough > consensus". > > Alternatively, I would like to hear objections to this. > > Izumi - just a minor correction to be pedantic. 2 candidates had process > issues. I cannot see a process issue with Karaitiana. > He self-nominated and had a seconder before the deadline. > > > Regards, > R. > > > Izumi AIZU wrote: > >> In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed >> to have some minor process questions. >> >> I agree with Siavash and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not >> "representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from >> ALAC to NomCom. >> >> If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from >> ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom >> becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the >> representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider >> governance in my understanding. >> >> I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom >> members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations >> to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision. >> >> So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to >> send all three candidates. >> >> Thanks, >> >> izumi >> >> 2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh <rajnesh(a)pacificit.org>: >> >> >>> Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position >>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800 >>> From: Christopher To <christopher(a)hkiac.org> >>> To: <rajnesh(a)pacificit.org> >>> CC: Gary Soo <email(a)garysoochambers.hk> >>> References: <46CBE1AB.9080503(a)pacificit.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> Rajnesh, >>> >>> >>> >>> The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Christopher >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of >>> *Rajnesh D. Singh >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM >>> *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss >>> *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position >>> >>> >>> >>> Colleagues, >>> >>> The deadline for nominations has closed. >>> >>> We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below. >>> >>> **CANDIDATE** >>> >>> >>> >>> **NOMINATED BY** >>> >>> >>> >>> **ALS** >>> >>> >>> >>> **NOMINATION DATE** >>> >>> Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK) >>> >>> >>> >>> ISVK-India / >>> >>> >>> >>> ISVK-India / >>> >>> >>> >>> 14th August 2007 >>> >>> Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS) >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheryl Langdon-Orr / >>> >>> Bilal Beiram >>> >>> >>> >>> ISOC-AU / >>> >>> AKMS >>> >>> >>> >>> 15th August 2007 >>> >>> Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society) >>> >>> >>> >>> New Zealand Maori Internet Society / >>> Franck Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> New Zealand Maori Internet Society / >>> >>> >>> >>> 15th August 2007 >>> >>> >>> Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and >>> Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has accepted >>> the nomination. >>> >>> At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus that >>> APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within ALS'. >>> If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and functions >>> could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have 2 >>> persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person >>> nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'. >>> >>> If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference must >>> be between Nirmol and Karaitiana. >>> >>> I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate >>> nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and >>> let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach >>> this decision by the end of this coming weekend. >>> >>> I look forward to your input.

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]]
by Rajnesh D. Singh Aug. 25, 2007

Aug. 25, 2007

Forwarded to the list as per Izumi's request below. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:18:47 +0900 From: Izumi AIZU <iza(a)anr.org> To: nirmol xxxx <nirmol(a)atensassociates.com> CC: Bilal S. Beirm <bbeirm(a)tagorg.com>, rajnesh(a)pacificit.org, Asia-Pacific Discuss <apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> References: <8157321273FDDF4FBFED93102976F07F0F7409(a)mail.tago.org> <838286.37890.qm(a)web812.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear all, I didn't realize my posting was bounced - maybe usgin gmail with my original address was the reason... in that case, Rajnesh, could you kindly forward this to the list? And, as for what Nirmol wrote, honestly I could not understand why exactly you could not agree with the explanation I wrote. I did not write, or intended to say that anyone is partial. I think and I thought each one is equally good including Siavash who is not a member himself, but nominated by a member of APRALO and seconded. I would appreciate if someone, either NIrmol himsel and/or someone who could understand what he wrote could explain that to me. I do not see any "bias" in my own message or any other so far except putting Siavash outside the candidate. I might be wrong, and I am open and willing to know if that's the case. Thanks, izumi 2007/8/23, nirmol xxxx <nirmol(a)atensassociates.com>: > dear all, > > I quite disagree with the explantion forwarded by Izumi. > > I dont understand why any one will be partial. > What makes anyone think that a memeber of APRALO will be impartial. > In that case it can be agrued that a non member would not as much be > interested in the affairs as would a member be (no offence to Siavash). > > I think the explanation was totally uncalled for, taking into account the > healthy functioning of the organisation so far. > > I think all of us have organised ourself into this organisation for a noble > purpose and biases should not be interpreted unless they are capable of > being substantiated, afterall APRALO, ALAC and ICANN have one objective in > mind the development of healthy and futuristic policies for the benefit of > the 'registered name holder' and the end user and any one capable of helping > this objective is equal to another. > > No intention to be offensive to anyone but i think the mail was not in the > spirit of consensus and hormony. > > God bless > Nirmol > ISVK India > > > "Bilal S. Beirm" <bbeirm(a)tagorg.com> wrote: > Agree with Izumi's comments. > > Bilal > -----Original Message----- > From: apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On > Behalf Of Izumi > AIZU > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:38 AM > To: rajnesh(a)pacificit.org > Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] > > In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed > to have some minor process questions. > > I agree with Siavash and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not > "representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from > ALAC to NomCom. > > If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from > ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom > becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the > representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider > governance in my understanding. > > I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom > members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations > to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision. > > So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to > send all three candidates. > > Thanks, > > izumi > > 2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh : > > Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination. > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position > > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800 > > From: Christopher To > > To: > > CC: Gary Soo > > References: <46CBE1AB.9080503(a)pacificit.org> > > > > > > > > Rajnesh, > > > > > > > > The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Christopher > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On > Behalf Of > > *Rajnesh D. Singh > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM > > *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss > > *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position > > > > > > > > Colleagues, > > > > The deadline for nominations has closed. > > > > We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below. > > > > **CANDIDATE** > > > > > > > > **NOMINATED BY** > > > > > > > > **ALS** > > > > > > > > **NOMINATION DATE** > > > > Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK) > > > > > > > > ISVK-India / > > > > > > > > ISVK-India / > > > > > > > > 14th August 2007 > > > > Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS) > > > > > > > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr / > > > > Bilal Beiram > > > > > > > > ISOC-AU / > > > > AKMS > > > > > > > > 15th August 2007 > > > > Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society) > > > > > > > > New Zealand Maori Internet Society / > > Franck Martin > > > > > > > > New Zealand Maori Internet Society / > > > > > > > > 15th August 2007 > > > > > > Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and > > Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has > accepted > > the nomination. > > > > At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus > that > > APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within > ALS'. > > If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and > functions > > could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have > 2 > > persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person > > nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'. > > > > If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference > must > > be between Nirmol and Karaitiana. > > > > I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate > > nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and > > let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach > > this decision by the end of this coming weekend. > > > > I look forward to your input.

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Call for Participation: Trust and the Future of the Internet (ISOC)
by Rajnesh D. Singh Aug. 24, 2007

Aug. 24, 2007

Please note the following, if of interest. Note the EOI deadline is today (Aug 24th). Regards, R. Call for Participation: Trust and the Future of the Internet The Internet Society (ISOC) Board of Trustees is currently engaged in a discovery process to define a long term Major Strategic Initiative to ensure that the Internet of the future remains accessible to everyone. The Board believes that Trust is an essential component of all successful relationships and that an erosion of Trust: in individuals, networks, or computing platforms, will undermine the continued health and success of the Internet. The Board will meet in special session the first week October of 2007 for intensive study focused on the subject of trust within the context of network enabled relationships. As part of this process, the Board is hereby issuing a call for subject experts who can participate in the two day discussion. Topics of interest include: the changing nature of trust, security, privacy, control and protection of personal data, methods for establishing authenticity and providing assurance, management of threats, and dealing with unwanted traffic. Participants will be selected based on a short paper summarizing individual interests and qualifications as well as availability. The retreat will be held in Toronto, Ontario (CA) . Travel and accommodation costs will be covered by ISOC and participants should expect to arrive October 4th and depart on the 6th or 7th. Expressions of interest may be emailed to: oct07-retreat(a)elists.isoc.org <mailto:oct07-retreat@elists.isoc.org> and papers should not exceed three pages. Papers must received by August 24th, 2007 and the Program Committee will make their selections on or before September 7th, 2007. Subject experts will be allotted one hour for presentation on October 5th and will be included in the days round-table discussions. In order to facilitate open discussion, final presentation materials should be forwarded to ISOC no later than September 21st, 2007. We look forward to a lively and informative meeting on this important topic and encourage you to share this announcement with your communities of interest." Lucy Lynch Director of Technical Projects Internet Society (ISOC)

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NomCom 2008 Position
by Rajnesh D. Singh Aug. 23, 2007

Aug. 23, 2007

Colleagues, The deadline for nominations has closed. We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below. *CANDIDATE* *NOMINATED BY* *ALS* *NOMINATION DATE* Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK) ISVK-India / ISVK-India / 14th August 2007 Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS) Cheryl Langdon-Orr / Bilal Beiram ISOC-AU / AKMS 15th August 2007 Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society) New Zealand Maori Internet Society / Franck Martin New Zealand Maori Internet Society / 15th August 2007 Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has accepted the nomination. At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus that APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within ALS'. If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and functions could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have 2 persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'. If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference must be between Nirmol and Karaitiana. I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach this decision by the end of this coming weekend. I look forward to your input. -- Kind regards, Rajnesh D. Singh Chair, ICANN Asia Pacific Regional At-Large Organisation www.apralo.org

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