December 2007 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Re: [At-Large] [governance] "Internet users" Summit
by Jacqueline A. Morris Dec. 13, 2007

Dec. 13, 2007

This was a first draft at the proposal - there are loads of people working in a committee to develop this proposal further, so your comments should be sent to them, so that they can be taken into consideration. To that end I've copied the ALAC list on this email. Jacqueline > -----Original Message----- > From: Meryem Marzouki [mailto:marzouki@ras.eu.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 19:20 > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > Subject: [governance] "Internet users" Summit > > > Le 10 déc. 07 à 09:32, Vittorio Bertola a écrit : > > > However, since the idea of a summit came out months ago, I have > > been repeating that the ICANN Board will never put money on this if > > a clear explanation of "how will this event make a difference" > > isn't provided. So (AFAIK, as I'm not inside the process any more) > > the organizers are now working on providing exactly that. In > > general, I think that the event could be very useful or very > > useless depending on how its agenda and purposes are set up. I > > expect that this will be presented to the broader community in the > > near future. > > and > > Le 10 déc. 07 à 09:02, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : > > > Why not to start with 12 people in a working group to draft a > > strategy to find out what to do and how to intervene? > > Do you both mean, say, something like this: > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?motion_on_the_summit_proposal > (motion sent to ALAC mailing list on Nov 1st, and - as far as I've > understood - prepared by Sebastien Bachollet (Isoc-France)) ? > > excerpts: > ""ICANN Ensemble" A global summit of the ICANN At-Large community" > - Estimated budget: 500,000 USD (350,000 euros) > > i.e. 310 USD (200 euros) per hotel night and 112 USD (75 euros) per > diem. Which is quite good in Paris (unless, of course, if you only > drink champaign -- a lot of champaign, I mean) > > - Vision > "The Summit's intent to > 3.1.Help the At-Large structures to better understand At-Large > mandates, structures, processes. > 3.2.Provide the tools needed by At-Large leadership to involve and > engage their members. > 3.3.Drive the development of timely policy study and recommendations > reflecting the At-Large point of view on both global and regional > levels. > 3.4.Encourage the exchange of ideas, experiences and energy within > ICANN's At-Large community." > > - 4.Objectives > > "4.1.An informed At-Large community that is better able to interact > with other ICANN constituencies, supporting organisations and > advisory committees. > 4.2.An informed At-Large community that clearly understands the > issues confronting ICANN and ICANN's roles and responsibilities > therein. > 4.3.Increased involvement by At-Large in ICANN policy debate. > 4.4.An At-Large community that more clearly understands the global, > rather than merely regional, point of view on ICANN-related issues. > 4.5.A more engaged At-Large community that clearly understands the > timing and framework of various issues currently confronting ICANN" > > - 5.Deliverables > > "5.1.Resolutions based on policy development. Any resolutions which > are not agreed to at the Final Plenary or require more regional > consultation should be accompanied by hard deadlines for passage. > 5.2.Establishment of working groups related to specific policies with > explicit goals and timetables for production of papers or resolutions. > 5.3.ALS leadership who are fully aware of ICANN, its workings and its > issues, who are ready and able to bring this information to their > members. > 5.4.Improved contacts and relationships between ICANN ALSs, within > and between regions, and between At-Large and other ICANN > constituencies. > 5.5.Work on a Individual Internet Users declaration." > > - 9.Notes > > "[...] > Summit organizers -- with the assistance of ALAC, RALO chairs and > ICANN staff -- will distribute in advance to ALSs information related > to ICANN issues requiring attention. Each ALS is expected to discuss > the policy issues sufficiently so that its delegates to the Summit > can participate and vote on group resolutions. > [...] > > All points of view will be welcomed; however, it is stressed that > the Summit is intended to be a positive, progressive event and > delegates are expected to participate in that spirit. Advocacy > outside the scope of ICANN or intended as simply negative or > obstructionist will not be welcomed." > > (end of quotes) > > In summary: > > - "Internet users" == (current) "ICANN At-Large community". So, let's > call this event by its name, i.e. the big "at-large structures" > party, rather than "Internet users summit". > > - This "summit" is intended for current At-large structures/ALSes > capacity building (what the hell are they doing in the RALOs if not > yet aware of ICANN's - and specially at-large - arcanes and what's at > stake??) > > - Whatever "declaration" will be written, it will be in the name of > all "Individual Internet Users" on earth > > My favorites are the "Notes". The two ones reproduced above mean: > > - "Information related to ICANN issues requiring attention" will be > elaborated and distributed by the "Summit" organizers: frame the > debate as you want, and you'll get the outcome you want > > - "All points of view will be welcomed"... But..."Advocacy outside > the scope of ICANN or intended as simply negative or obstructionist > will not be welcomed." :)))) From only some discussions on this list, > we can imagine what this means. > > Last but not least, given the budget per person, if you're an > academic, I indeed recommend that you attend this "summit" as an ALS > "leader" rather than visiting some colleagues in Paris in an academic > stay framework or rather than coming as a UN consultant (per Suresh's > indications).. Not to mention comparisons with usual low budget CS > activities.. > > In any case, being myself based in Paris, I can guarantee that Paris > is really great in June, and that these people will spend nice > holidays here, in addition to reinforcing their positions as > "leadership", "representing" Internet users, a.k.a citizens. > > Have fun. > > Meryem____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance

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.berlin and ALAC
by Danny Younger Dec. 12, 2007

Dec. 12, 2007

Re: - Evan (waiting for someone from Taiwan to apply for .CHINA ;-) ) >From the ccNSO LA Minutes: 24-04 IT WAS RESOLVED that the ccNSO Council recommends that the ICANN Board apply the following principles in the new gTLD process: No name of a territory as listed in ISO 3166-1 or a meaningful abbreviation of it, whether represented in a non ASCII script or in any recognised language represented in that script, shall be available as a gTLD. This principle should be revisited once the IDN ccPDP Recommendation, if any, is adopted by the Board. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Fwd: [governance] .berlin and ALAC
by Robert Guerra Dec. 11, 2007

Dec. 11, 2007

Copy FYI Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dirk Krischenowski | dotBERLIN" <krischenowski(a)dotberlin.de> > Date: December 11, 2007 10:38:18 AM GMT-05:00 > To: <governance(a)lists.cpsr.org> > Subject: [governance] .berlin and ALAC > Reply-To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org,"Dirk Krischenowski | dotBERLIN" > <krischenowski(a)dotberlin.de> > > I coming back to a posting of Michael Leibrandt from Dec 2, where > Michael > wrote: > > "... The parliament of Berlin has voted down the .berlin proposal > with a > majority decision. Does anybody think that such a local decision > should be > ignored by an ICANN ALAC? ..." > > The part of the statement regarding .berlin is definitely wrong; > therefore > I'd like to make a counterstatement: > > To say it in one sentence: The Parliament of Berlin did not (!) > vote .berlin > down, it was just a recommendation of a subcommittee which voted > against > supporting a motion submitted by one of the opposition parties in > which the > senate is asked to support .berlin. > > A little bit more in detail: In the Berlin House of Representatives > (Berlin > Parliament) the Christian Democrats filed a resolution to support the > .berlin TLD. This was based on another resolution that the Christian > Democrats and the Social Democrats (ruling coalition) in the German > Bundestag (German Parliament). Contrary to the German Bundestag, in > the > Parliament of Berlin the Christian Democrats are in the opposition. > The > majority is by a coalition of the Social Democrats and The Left Wing > Party > (the former Communist Party). > > Since the resolution to support .berlin comes from the opposition, > it seems > to be a natural reflex of the red-red coalition to vote against it. > In the > case Michael mentioned not the parliament, but a subcommittee voted > against > support of the CDU motion based on the argument that the city has an > official city portal and therefore does not need .berlin. This > recommendation will go now to the next level, the main committee. > Let's wait > and see. > > Dirk Krischenowski > Founder and CEO > > www.dotberlin.de > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance

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Board liaison report
by Wendy Seltzer Dec. 10, 2007

Dec. 10, 2007

The board last met in teleconference Nov. 20. Minutes are posted at <http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-20nov07.htm>. An agenda for this month's meeting has not yet been set, but I will circulate it for input when it is available. If there are issues that ALAC would like brought before the Board, now would be a good time to propose them. Might I recommend ALAC's concerns about the Add-Grace Period and an update on the proposed At-Large Summit? During last month's discussion, I requested clarification of the means by which public comments are incorporated into ongoing issue negotiation, particularly in multi-round negotiations. I await further information for the at-large community on how to assure that the concerns of individual users are heard in these discussions as effectively as the representatives of constituency or special interests. --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/

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Report of the Staff, November 2007
by Nick Ashton-Hart Dec. 10, 2007

Dec. 10, 2007

Dear All: For your information, the Report of the Staff of At-Large may be accessed at the following URL: https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/alac/attachments/11_december_2007:2007… I have not attached it to this email in order to limit the bandwidth consumption required for those on low-bandwidth connections. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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fast track process for IDN's
by Danny Younger Dec. 9, 2007

Dec. 9, 2007

In response to Cheryl's note (point 5) on the proposed fast track process for IDN's: The Internet Governance Project has today expressed some concerns about the ccTLDs plans to award themselves a bunch of new IDN TLDs without going through any real process -- see http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2007/12/5/3392238.html I share the point of view expressed therein. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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fast track process for IDN's
by Danny Younger Dec. 9, 2007

Dec. 9, 2007

You write that policy options are clearly recorded in ALAC related Wiki page -- sorry, but I don't see such options enumerated there. Perhaps you could provide a clearer pointer. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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