January 2008 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Google won't knee cap domain tasting
by Bill Silverstein Jan. 26, 2008

Jan. 26, 2008

Even if Google will not accept domain names that have been registered for less than 5 or even 10 days, it does not matter. It is very simple on a new domain name to redirect the surfer to a a domain name that has been approved by Google for Adsense.

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Fwd: [ttcs] Google May Knee Cap Domain Tasting
by Jacqueline Morris Jan. 26, 2008

Jan. 26, 2008

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dev Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:33:08 -0400 Subject: [ttcs] Google May Knee Cap Domain Tasting To: lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: ttcs(a)yahoogroups.com Google is said to be considering banning newly registered domain names from participating in the Google for Domain Names program, severely hampering the practice of domain tasting. According to Jay Westerdal at Domain Tools, Google would block all domains if they are less then five days old. In Jay's words, "This potential new policy change by Google could stop all Domain Tasting in its tracks." Read rest of article at http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/google-may-knee-cap-domain-tasting/ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com

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IDN Glossaries now available in several languages
by Nick Ashton-Hart Jan. 23, 2008

Jan. 23, 2008

Dear All: I'm happy to let you know that the IDN Glossary is now available in Spanish, Portuguese, French, Russian, Arabic, and Simplified Chinese - all from http://www.icann.org/topics/idn/idn-glossary.htm -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Input Period Extended into Issues Report for the IDN ccPDP
by Nick Ashton-Hart Jan. 23, 2008

Jan. 23, 2008

Dear At-Large: I've been asked to convey the following to you which I suspect will be of interest to many of you: At its meeting on 2 October 2007 the ccNSO Council requested the creation of an Issue Report as a first step in launching a ccPDP. To identify matters that are potentially relevant to the Issues Report, a comment period was opened on 19 December 2007 and would remain open until 25 January 2008. In the Issue Report the following needs to be considered: 1. Whether Article IX of the ICANN bylaws applies to IDN ccTLDs associated with the ISO 3166-1 two letter codes, and if it does not then to establish if Article IX should apply. 2. Whether the ccNSO should launch a PDP to develop the policy for the selection and delegation of IDN ccTLDs associated with the ISO 3166-1 two-letter codes. As you may have noted both the GNSO Council and ccNSO Council have send a letter to the ICANN Board relating to core elements of the IDN ccPDP. It is anticipated the ccNSO and GNSO Council will meet during the ICANN meeting in New Delhi to explain and discuss the background of the views expressed in the letters. It is my view as Issue Manager of the ccPDP that the outcome of such a meeting, if it will be convened, is significant as input for the Issues Report. Therefore the period to provide input into the Issues Report is extended from 25 January until 22 February 2008. According to the ICANN by laws the creation of the Issue Report is the second step in launching the IDN ccPDP. The first step was the request of the ccNSO Council on 2 October 2007 to create an Issue Report. The final step is the decision of the ccNSO Council to initiate the ccPDP (see ICANN by laws Annex B, section 2). -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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TR: Une "Fondation DNS" aliment ée par l'ICANN ?
by Daniel Dardailler Jan. 22, 2008

Jan. 22, 2008

Hello all Reacting to a couple of posts, sorry if this is a bit long and a repeat for some (e.g. those who have read http://www.w3.org/2005/02/W3C-Global-Focus.html) Adam: > W3C is an industry association, doesn't the > Internet industry think it worth supporting? Not > as if it's an industry short on cash W3C is a standard body, much like the IETF, or the Unicode consortium. (that is, if you believe TCP/IP, XML, UTF, etc. are standards) We are funded by various sources: - membership fee (roughly 2/3 or our revenue, a third US, a third software IT, not the same third - check http://www.w3.org/Consortium/about-w3c.html) paying members are harder to sign in since 2000 as you may imagine - a third coming from specific external grants (e.g. for Web Accessibility for People with Disabilities, Mobile Web in Developing countries, I18N, etc), - or from end-user supporters, or event sponsoring, (our meetings are free for their participants) Much like the IETF, we receive no government ICT standard money (coming from citizen's taxes), it all goes to more official bodies (ITU or ISO's chapters for instance). W3C is a joint project between about 20 non-for-profit institutes world wide (our hosts and offices), whose productions (e.g. XML, HTML, http, URLs, CSS, Web2API, WebServices, SemanticWeb, etc) are free for all (not just free access, but royalty free) and generate a lot of profit in lots of communities, including the near-by DNS community. The funding we receive goes in a pot, which is in turn used to pay a staff of about 100 folks around the world (like me, or our director Tim Berners-Lee), who manage about 100 groups, for a total expert population of about 1500 folks (with 500 free participants). The pot is also used to pay for comm, qa, system/servers, big meetings, and free/open source tools (e.g. validator.w3.org, and various other operational resources). In case it is not clear: there is no free lunch. IETF is also funded by the industry, and also has mgnt and technical staff (gardians of their RFC bylaws), and comm staff (ISOC, etc), and mgnt (IAB, etc), etc, but most of these staff are loaned by its membership, and its sister organisations, rather than organized as a consortium like W3C. We have of course technical liaisons and joint groups together, and we operate under the same "rough consensus and running code" motto. I believe it would be good for the DNS governance bodies to invest in organisations like us, doing Internet&Web std. We are one family of folks responsible for the long term stability of the entire Internet&Web platform, and I think the std developpers have in the past 20 years shown a good return on investment wrt quality and adoption (compared to what the real governments have paid in the sixties and seventies for non-IP network and applications standardisation). Not to mention that we've been a protocol supporting and technical liaison for ICANN since its inception. This is getting too long already.. All I'm saying is that: Guess what a billion potential programmers brought by one happy root wants every Xmas ? more Open Web standards :) Vittorio: > .. I'm fine with ~$0.20 per domain, I'm fine > with supporting developing country ccTLDs or the IGF (or the At Large ;) > if there's enough coming from it, but no one tasked ICANN with being the > Treasure Ministry of the Internet, let alone deciding how to > redistribute money from the "undeserving" to the "deserving". So this is about drawing the "deserving" line at a level we're all fine with. We're missing data here. I'm fine with the idea of funding several "good for the Internet community actions" with these DNS auction extra-benefits (single letter or new TLDs). Even if we, W3C, don't get anything out of a DNS trust, if we just drop the entire idea and go find our support somewhere else, I would think that selling rare DNS resources a high price on the free market and re-investing the money in the DNS foudations (whatever you think they are) is a smart move. You'll understand that my focus is on Open Web Standardization support, as a foundation layer among others, and in the Internet dev community in general. Cheers, and Happy new year to all. Ps: I'll be in Delhi for those of you who wants to chat f2f - and if I find an affordable hotel :|

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TR: Une "Fondation DNS" alimentée par l'ICANN ?
by Sébastien Bachollet Jan. 22, 2008

Jan. 22, 2008

Hi May be it is a subject where Ralos and Alac must have a say? See the proposal of the W3C to create a Trust Fund to help standardisation organization to fulfil there mandates. All the best Sébastien Bachollet Président sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr -----Message d'origine----- De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 16 janvier 2008 16:02 À : gt-international(a)nic.fr Objet : Une "Fondation DNS" alimentée par l'ICANN ? Dans le cadre de la consultation de l'ICANN sur les modes d'allocation des noms de domaine à un caractère dans les gTLDs (ex: a.com) le W3C a fait une intéressante proposition ici : http://forum.icann.org/lists/allocationmethods/msg00033.html Il s'agirait de créer un Trust Fund avec l'argent issu des enchères ou autres, en vue de financer les organismes de développement des standards comme W3C, IETF ou UNICODE. -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: 01 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill(a)afnic.fr ***************************** No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.4/1227 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 01:40 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1231 - Release Date: 18/01/2008 11:55

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Review of the Joint Partnership Agreement (JPA) between ICANN and the US Government
by Nick Ashton-Hart Jan. 17, 2008

Jan. 17, 2008

Dear All: The Joint Project Agreement between the United States government and ICANN will have a mid-term review in March. As part of this review, the US government put out a Notice of Inquiry (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2007/ICANN_JPA_110207.html ) asking for comments on the continued transition to the private sector of the technical coordination and management of the Internet’s domain name and addressing system (DNS). ICANN has responded to this call with several documents: a section in our Annual Report (http://www.icann.org/annualreport/annual-report-2006-2007.pdf ); a letter of submission (http://icann.org/correspondence/dengate-thrush-to-sene-09jan08.pdf ); and a table of achievements (http://icann.org/general/jpa-10-responsibilities-table-09jan08.pdf ). You can review the progress ICANN has reported to the USG on each of the 10 responsibilities in the JPA individually on pages 12 to 18 of the Annual Report. The seven-page submission letter (http://icann.org/correspondence/dengate-thrush-to-sene-09jan08.pdf ), sent on 9th January 2008, is signed by ICANN's chairman of the Board, Peter Dengate Thrush, and outlines the Board's position that it has met fully its obligations and responsibilities. The JPA can now be completed. And finally, the table of achievements (http://icann.org/general/jpa-10-responsibilities-table-09jan08.pdf ), whose index runs to 41 pages and when printed out runs to several hundred pages of evidential documentation, demonstrates what precisely ICANN has done in completion of the Joint Project Agreement. ICANN would like to encourage all interested parties to review the documents and particularly to contact the United States government and make their views known. Over the course of the next few months, ICANN will add more information about the review and its progress on www.icann.org . ICANN welcomes your feedback and assistance either on the ICANN blog, at http://blog.icann.org/?p=262, on the public participation website, at http://public.icann.org/, or by email to: http://icann.org/general/contact.htm . Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Inviting Indian public to New Delhi meeting
by Wendy Seltzer Jan. 16, 2008

Jan. 16, 2008

I recommend that ALAC make a concerted effort to invite a large number of members of the Indian Internet-using public to the New Delhi meeting. It would be very useful to hear how their concerns compare with those we've heard so far, and to hear what new issues they raise. How might we find ways to contact the Indian Internet-using public? --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/

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Domain name front-running by Network Solutions
by Brendler, Beau Jan. 16, 2008

Jan. 16, 2008

I'm guessing many of you have seen this, but if not... http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359 The blog the story references is here: http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=85864 Perhaps specifically of interest: "Front running domain names is a bold move by any registrar as it breaks a certain level of trust that the general public places in using a whois search. ICANN SSAC has conducted a "study" on front running recently in which they wrote "ICANN's Registrar Accreditation Agreement and Registry Agreements do not expressly prohibit registrars and registries from monitoring and collecting WHOIS query of domain name availability query data and either selling this information or using it directly," Warehousing domains in order to sell them to "potentially interested parties" isn't specifically forbidden in the registrar contract with ICANN but is addressed in points 3.7.9 and 4.2.5 of the contract in which they leave room for new rules or revisions to the contract." -----Original Message----- From: Maxim Weinstein [mailto:mweinstein@cyber.law.harvard.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:57 AM To: Brendler, Beau Subject: Domain name front-running by Network Solutions Hey, Beau. If you haven't already seen this: http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359 you should take a look. This is (or should be) big news. =Max= *** Scanned

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Jan. 15, 2008

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