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WEBCAST TODAY: Human Rights, Accountability, and Internet Governance
by Joly MacFie Nov. 17, 2014

Nov. 17, 2014

Just starting. Another top flight event from ISOC-DC. joly posted: " Today, Monday 17 November 2014 the Greater Washington DC Chapter of the Internet Society (ISOC-DC) and the Institute of International Economic Policy (IIEP) present Human Rights, Accountability, and Internet Governance . This free luncheon seminar consid" [image: ISOC DC Human Rights in IG] <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/isoc-dc_hr_ig_170x255.png> Today,* Monday 17 November 2014* the *Greater Washington DC Chapter of the Internet Society <http://www.isoc-dc.org/>* (ISOC-DC) and the *Institute of International Economic Policy <http://www.gwu.edu/~iiep/> *(IIEP) present *Human Rights, Accountability, and Internet Governance <http://www.isoc-dc.org/2014/11/human-rights-accountability-and-internet-gov…> *. This free luncheon seminar considers how recent proposed changes in Internet governance will affect human rights online and how Internet governance institutions and processes might be made more accountable to netizens. Panel: Ambassador *David Gross*, Wiley Rein; *Danielle Kehl*, Open Technology Institute, New America Foundation; *Manu Bhardwaj*, United States Department of State; *Robert Guerra*, Founder & Executive Director, Privaterra; Member, ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC); *Andrea Glorioso*, European Union Delegation to the United States. Moderator: *Susan Ariel Aaronson*, Research Professor of International Affairs, The George Washington University. The event will be webcast live on the *Internet Society Livestream <https://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/humanrights>* channel. *What: Human Rights, Accountability, and Internet Governance <http://www.isoc-dc.org/2014/11/human-rights-accountability-and-internet-gov…> Where: Elliott School of International Affairs, George Washington University, Washington DC When: Monday 17 November 2014 12-30pm-2pm EST | 17:30-19:00 UTC Webcast: https://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/humanrights <https://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/humanrights> Twitter: @isocdc + #humanrights <https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=isocdc%20humanrights&src=typd>* Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7212#respond> See all comments <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7212#comments> *Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7212 -------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Re: [At-Large] Updated : Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen
by Vint Cerf Nov. 17, 2014

Nov. 17, 2014

works for me. v On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:14 AM, James Seng <james.seng(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > Here is the updated Statement that we intends to release at the WIC @ > Wuzhen. > > In view of the latest statement of Netmundial Initiatives by "I"STAR as > well as some other comments, we have modify the original statement that > reference NETmundial statement to the following: > > "We, the undersigned, sincerely invite the leaders of the Chinese > Internet Community to recognize the following generally acceptable Internet > principles as a base upon which to build for the Internet in China:" > > I understand there is a differences between NETmundial statement in April > 2014 and the current NETmundial Initiatives but that might easily confused > by someone who is not familiar with the events. > > There are some minor grammar and typo edits. > > For those who has signed, please also let me know if your name is > represented correctly. > > Thank you for your support! > > -- > -James Seng >

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Re: [At-Large] [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen
by Izumi AIZU Nov. 17, 2014

Nov. 17, 2014

Agree with Pindar, and pls add my name. Thank you and see you there as I will join the WIC. Izumi 2014年11月17日月曜日、Pindar Wong<pindar.wong(a)gmail.com>さんは書きました: > Noted with understanding James. > > Perhaps consider adding a date and title of some sort, so that others may > easily refer to it. > > Cheers, > > p. > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM, James Seng <james.seng(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','james.seng(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> I have send out an email with the updated statement in full. >> >> For many of us here who have been involved in many ways, I think we >> understand the differences between "NETmundial Multistakeholder Statement" >> published in April 2014 and "NETmundial Initiatives by WEF". But for a >> causal reader (or even just a reader armed with Google), NETmundial is a >> loaded word right now that may cause confusion. >> >> I rather we spend time to focus on the message we want to deliver and not >> get rope into the controversy revolving around NETmundial right now. >> >> Of course, please send me your feedback and if most agree to put it back, >> I will do so. >> >> We have 48 hours to the event. >> >> -James Seng >> >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder < >> anne-marie.eklund-lowinder(a)iis.se >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','anne-marie.eklund-lowinder(a)iis.se');>> >> wrote: >> >>> I agree with Pindar, I would prefer to have the reference more >>> substantial. >>> >>> Anne-Marie >>> >>> >>> >>> Skickat från min HTC >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> Från: "Pindar Wong" <pindar.wong(a)gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pindar.wong(a)gmail.com');>> >>> Till: "James Seng" <james.seng(a)gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','james.seng(a)gmail.com');>> >>> Kopia: "discuss(a)1net.org >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discuss(a)1net.org');>" <discuss(a)1net.org >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discuss(a)1net.org');>>, "At-Large >>> Worldwide" <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org');>> >>> Rubrik: [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ >>> Wuzhen >>> Datum: mån, nov 17, 2014 07:41 >>> >>> Well... looks arguable vague to me James. Which 'generally acceptable >>> Internet principles' do you refer to? >>> >>> Whereas April's NETmundial.br referenced earlier had a clear process and >>> clear outcome captured in a public document. >>> >>> p. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM, James Seng <james.seng(a)gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','james.seng(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> I intent to modify the statement to: >>>> >>>> "We, the undersigned, sincerely invite the leaders of the Chinese >>>> Internet Community to recognize the generally acceptable Internet >>>> principles as a base upon which to build for the Internet in China." >>>> >>>> Would that be okay? >>>> >>>> -James Seng >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong(a)gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pindar.wong(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Dave. >>>>> >>>>> For those of us in Hong Kong, your signature is especially meaningful. >>>>> >>>>> p. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dave Farber <dave(a)farber.net >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dave(a)farber.net');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok I'll sign it >>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014 8:21 PM, "Pindar Wong" <pindar.wong(a)gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pindar.wong(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be really good if you could also sign it Dave. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> May I suggest then to change the text from >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'to take the principles of NETmundial and to build upon them for the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chinese Internet.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'to take the principles of NETmundial.br of April 2014 >>>>>>> <http://netmundial.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NETmundial-Multistakeholder…> >>>>>>> and to build upon them for the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chinese Internet.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This would avoid the 'confusingly similar' ;) NETmundial Initiative >>>>>>> (NMI). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as the later, I believe the ISOC BoT had this so say >>>>>>> yesterday:- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initi… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> p. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, DAVID J. FARBER <farber(a)gmail.com >>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','farber(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you add the term original bazilian netmundir rather than the >>>>>>>> ambiguioius just netmundie, I would like to sign it. I want to >>>>>>>> distinguished from the current suggestions . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014 10:18 AM, "Christopher Wilkinson" < >>>>>>>> lists(a)christopherwilkinson.eu >>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lists(a)christopherwilkinson.eu');>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You may add my name to the list of signatories: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christopher Wilkinson 秦基辅 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2014, at 07:51, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pindar.wong(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear James, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps also consider that your recommendation be reworded as >>>>>>>>> follows:- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Specifically, we would like to highlight the following >>>>>>>>> recommendations to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Preserve Internet as an innovation environment based on open and >>>>>>>>> distributed architecture; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Develop the Internet as an unified and unfragmented space based on >>>>>>>>> end-to-end open Internet and adoption of IPv6; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Promote open standards made by rough consensus of the global >>>>>>>>> technical community; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Uphold the security, stability and resilience of the Internet >>>>>>>>> through strong cooperation among different stakeholders;' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also perhaps this friendly amendment:- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Support the evolving Internet governance ecosystem by building >>>>>>>>> upon existing multi-stakeholder processes ensuring meaningful and >>>>>>>>> accountable *participation*.' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> m2c, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> p. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:43 PM, James Seng <james.seng(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','james.seng(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, very good point. It should be Internet in China. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014, WUKnoben < >>>>>>>>>> wolf-ulrich.knoben(a)t-online.de >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wolf-ulrich.knoben(a)t-online.de');>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With regards to para 3, I wonder whether making reference to the >>>>>>>>>>> “Internet in China” instead of the “Chinese Internet” would make the global >>>>>>>>>>> approach of the statement more clear. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wolf-Ulrich >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* James Seng >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:43 AM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* At-Large Worldwide ; mailto:discuss@1net.org >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet >>>>>>>>>>> Conference @ Wuzhen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A couple of us have prepared a statement (as attached) to >>>>>>>>>>> present at the World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen next week. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions to the statements are welcome. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you are willing to add your name to the statement, please >>>>>>>>>>> drop me an email. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -James Seng >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> discuss(a)1net.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -James Seng >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>> discuss(a)1net.org >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discuss(a)1net.org');> >>>>>>>>>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>> discuss(a)1net.org >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discuss(a)1net.org');> >>>>>>>>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>> discuss(a)1net.org >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discuss(a)1net.org');> >>>>>>>>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -James Seng >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -James Seng >> > > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan www.anr.org

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Internet Society Statement on the NETmundial Initiative
by Joly MacFie Nov. 17, 2014

Nov. 17, 2014

For some background on this read Kieren McCarthy <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/07/internet_un_security_council_net_mu…> and Philip Corwin <http://www.circleid.com/posts/20141007_beyond_netmundial_initiative_or_iner…> . joly posted: " Yesterday, November 16 2014. following it's meeting in Honolulu, the Internet Society's Board of Trustees issued the following statement: Recently, the “I* Group” different from the one-time NETmundial meeting in which we participated in April 2014; we e" [image: Internet Society] <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/isoc.png> Yesterday, November 16 2014. following its meeting <http://internetsociety.org/board-meeting-agenda-no-117> in Honolulu, the Internet Society's Board of Trustees issued the following statement <http://internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initi…> : Recently, the “I* Group” [1] was invited to participate in the NETmundial Initiative, which is different from the one-time NETmundial meeting in which we participated in April 2014; we endorsed the outcomes of that meeting. This new and different NETmundial Initiative has been organized by the partnership of the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee (CGI.br), the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), and the World Economic Forum (WEF)[2]. This announcement has resulted in considerable discussion and concern amongst various stakeholders regarding the purpose, scope, and nature of the proposed activity or organization. The Internet Society Board discussed this proposed NETmundial Initiative in depth during its meeting November 15 – 16, 2014. As a result, the Internet Society Board first emphasizes that the main priority facing the Internet community right now is the IANA Functions’ Stewardship Transition and recommends that all organizations in the Internet community should be highly focused on effectuating a successful transition. The Internet Society remains fully committed to the September 2015 milestone set for completing a plan that will meet the criteria set by U.S. National Telecommunications & Information Administration (NTIA). With respect to the need for new groups, such as the NETmundial Initiative and its Coordination Council, the Internet Society Board reiterates that the Internet Society’s longstanding position is that there is no single, global platform that can serve to coordinate, organize or govern all the Internet issues that may arise. At its heart, the Internet is a decentralized, loosely coupled, distributed system that allows policies to be defined by those who require them for their operations and that ensures that issues can be resolved at a level closest to their origin. The ecosystem draws its strength from the involvement of a broad range of actors working through open, transparent, and collaborative processes to innovate and build the network of networks that is the cornerstone of the global economy.[3] Based on the information that we have to date, the Internet Society cannot agree to participate in or endorse the Coordination Council for the NETmundial Initiative. We are concerned that the way in which the NETmundial Initiative is being formed does not appear to be consistent with the Internet Society’s longstanding principles, including: • Bottom-up orientation • Decentralized • Open • Transparent • Accountable • Multi-stakeholder The Board has asked the Internet Society’s CEO, Kathryn Brown, to convene a dialogue within the Internet Society community. This includes Internet Society Chapters from around the world, Internet Society organization members, the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), the the Internet Architecture Board (IAB), partners from the Internet technical community, and others. The dialogue should consider whether any new initiatives or groups are needed at the current time and, if so, to define the objectives for any such effort. In addition, Bob Hinden, Chairman of the Internet Society Board of Trustees has initiated a dialogue with the Chairman of the ICANN Board, given ICANN’s leading involvement in the NETmundial Initiative. The Internet Society remains committed to a vision of the Internet that is open, inclusive, decentralized and for the benefit of all people throughout the world. Notes: [1] The I* Group encompasses the Internet Society, IETF, IAB, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Regional Internet Registries (RIRs), ICANN, and the regional Top Level Domain (TLD) organizations. [2] https://www.netmundial.org/press-release-1 [3] The Internet Society’s position from the World Summit on Information Society (WSIS) of 2003 and 2005, is “Many issues cannot be solved by new, overarching structures at a global level but rather by building on today’s open, multi-stakeholder and cooperative processes.” And that the community should “...consider whether new structures will bring truly measurable, positive change to the functioning, stability, security and openness of the Internet.” (http://www.internetsociety.org/wsis) Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7205#respond> See all comments <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7205#comments> *Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7205 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Nov. 14, 2014

Nov. 14, 2014

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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Nov. 7, 2014

Nov. 7, 2014

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WEBCAST WEDNESDAY: Quartz’s The Next Billion: New York
by Joly MacFie Nov. 5, 2014

Nov. 5, 2014

This has just started. Quartz is a new online business publication from the publishers of The Atlantic. This is the second of their series of futurist conferences. The next will be in London in 2015. joly posted: "Tomorrow, Wednesday November 5 2014 Quartz will be holding a full day conference The Next Billion - one of a global series exploring the next generation of technologies and strategies that will help companies and individuals around the globe prepare for" [image: The Next Billion] <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/nextbillion.png>Today, *Wednesday November 5 2014, Quartz <http://qz.com/>* will be holding a full day conference *The Next Billion <http://thenextbillion.qz.com/newyork2014/>* - one of a global series exploring the next generation of technologies and strategies that will help companies and individuals around the globe prepare for the next billion internet users to come online. Speakers include representatives from *Microsoft*, *SmartThings*, *goTenna*, *Harvard Law School*, the * Ford Foundation*, and *Al Jazeera America*. The sold out event will be webcast live via *Livestream <http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10591685/thenextbillion>*. *What: Quartz's The Next Billion: New York <http://thenextbillion.qz.com/newyork2014/> Where: Bohemian National Hall, NYC Agenda: http://thenextbillion.qz.com/newyork2014 <http://thenextbillion.qz.com/newyork2014> When: Wednesday November 5 2014 9:30am-4:45pm EST | 14:30-21:45 UTC Webcast: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10591685/thenextbillion <http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10591685/thenextbillion> Twitter: # <https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%23qznextbillion>**qznextbillion <https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%23qznextbillion>* Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7168#respond> See all comments <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7168#comments> *Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7168 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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