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by Adam Peake Aug. 28, 2008

Aug. 28, 2008

Hi, The ALAC website <http://www.atlarge.icann.org/> has a menu section "Mailing Lists" and "See All Lists" <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo>. But that list of list does not include the ALAC members list <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org>, surely the most important as it's the one most of us can only read via the archives. Think it would be a good idea to correct this. Hope a link to the ALAC list archives will be included soon in the list of all lists. Thanks, Adam

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FW: Report of the WHOIS Study Hypothesis Group attached
by Nick Ashton-Hart Aug. 27, 2008

Aug. 27, 2008

Dear Working Group Members and At-Large Community Members: Attached please find the report of the WHOIS Study Hypothesis Group to the GNSO Council as requested by the Council in its resolution of 26 June 2008. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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More than half of the ALAC will be encouraged to resign
by Danny Younger Aug. 25, 2008

Aug. 25, 2008

Dear all, A few days ago ICANN Staff posted a document on the At-Large Announce list entitled, "Perfomance overview ALAC and Liaisons final.pdf" which details the abysmal degree of ALAC member participation. Under the terms of the ALAC Internal Rules of Procedure committee members are required to (1) cast a vote (including abstention) in at least 3/4 of ALS accreditations (2) Participate in at least 2/3 of the ALAC conference calls in any 6 month period (3) Attend at least one physical ICANN meeting in any 9 month period The rules (20.10) stipulate that in case of failure to meet the requirements, the Chair will privately encourage the member to resign, and if that doesn't happen within 14 days that other measures leading to a recall may be taken. As anticipated, more than half of the ALAC have not achieved their participatory requirements -- in total eight members plus one liaison are in formal default of their very minimal obligations. I'm looking forward to seeing these rules enforced by the ALAC Chair. It's long past time to get rid of the dead wood. P.S. The Staff document is attached to their letter on the Global ALAC election process -- you may read it here: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac-announce_atlarge-lists.icann.…

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Comprehensive Study Shows IPv6 Shift Isn't Happening
by Danny Younger Aug. 25, 2008

Aug. 25, 2008

[excerpt] Despite predictions that the Internet's IPv4 protocol will run out of addresses sometime in 2011, little seems to have been done to transition to IPv6, the new protocol that will provide enough Internet addresses for the near future, according to an Arbor Networks study. The study found that the there were only about 600 Mbps of inter-domain IPv6 traffic between June 2007 and June of this year, or just 0.0026 percent of the amount of overall IPv4 traffic. The study also found that IPv6 traffic peaked twice between Nov. 4 and Dec. 25 of last year. Arbor's Scott Iekel-Johnson says the largest of these spikes happened when 1,168 people in attendance at a meeting of the Internet Engineering Task Force were asked to turn off IPv4 functionality on their network connections and routers and test to see which sites could be accessed. Iekel-Johnson says the fact that just under 1,200 people caused the largest spike in IPv6 traffic over the last 12 months "speaks volumes" about the lack of adoption of the new protocol. Synopsis courtesy of ACM TechNews http://technews.acm.org/#375298 Full article at http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2328258,00.asp

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An Illustrated Guide to the Kaminsky DNS Vulnerability
by Robert Guerra Aug. 16, 2008

Aug. 16, 2008

I came across the following article that I think could be of interest to At-Large. regards Robert --- An Illustrated Guide to the Kaminsky DNS Vulnerability http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/iguide-kaminsky-dns-vuln.html The big security news of Summer 2008 has been Dan Kaminsky's discovery of a serious vulnerability in DNS. This vulnerability could allow an attacker to redirect network clients to alternate servers of his own choosing, presumably for ill ends. This all led to a mad dash to patch DNS servers worldwide, and though there have been many writeups of just how the vulnerability manifests itself, we felt the need for one in far more detail. Hence, one of our Illustrated Guides. This paper covers how DNS works: first at a high level, then by picking apart an individual packet exchange field by field. Next, we'll use this knowledge to see how weaknesses in common implementations can lead to cache poisoning. By fully understanding the issues at play, the reader may be better equipped to mitigate the risks in his or her own environment.

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Changes to how this list handles replies
by At-Large Staff Aug. 15, 2008

Aug. 15, 2008

Dear All: In order to help prevent harvesting of addresses, and large numbers of duplicate postings being received, we have been asked by the Chair to change the mailing list behaviour for replies to messages which are sent through the mailing list. Henceforward, all reply-to¹s in the headers will be stripped, and by default, when you reply to the list, the only recipient will be the list itself. If you have any issues or comments with this, Cheryl has asked that you direct them to her and not to the list. Note that this change affects only this public global list. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Aug. 15, 2008

Aug. 15, 2008

Mr. Williams, Further to the personal email message sent to you last week and the general message sent to the At-Large List (copy included below) regarding the duration and terms of your banning from list posting privileges being decided by the ALAC as a whole at our monthly meeting on August 12, please be advised that it was resolved at this meeting that your period of sanction will be applied for 6 months from the date of original notification, and that after that time a review of your posting privileges will be held (there were some complaints about off list contact and harassment that the ALAC considered also inappropriate and if such matters are bought to the attention of the ALAC Chair during the sanction period then this will be considered by the ALAC when it looks at your reinstatement of posting ability. Please also note that it was further agreed that any future digression from the established Code of Conduct for the At-Large list after you again have full subscription and posting rights returned will result in an immediate escalation of future sanction to permanent suspension. The minutes of this meeting have been posted and can be found linked to https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?12_august_2008 As yet the recording of the meeting has not been uploaded. Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC Chair 2008-2009 Copy of earlier message on this topic. At-Large Staff wrote: > Dear List Members: > > On Tuesday 5th August, Jeff Williams was notified by the Chair of the ALAC that further off-topic postings such as that entitled How to carjack a top Google exec, according to Google would result in his posting privileges on the public At-Large list being revoked, for a time to be decided by the ALAC. > Since that notification, further off-topic postings have been sent, and as a consequence we have been asked to suspend his posting privileges. He will continue to receive messages from the list, however, posts sent to the list will be bounced back to him automatically. > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul > ICANN At-Large Staff > email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Aug. 15, 2008

Aug. 15, 2008

Any further correspondence to the At-Large list on this topic or in a similar vein of personal insult or tone will be considered a be second breach of the List Code of Conduct and a sanction will be applied. Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC Chair 2008-09 From: Thompson, Darlene [mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:15 AM To: Joe Baptista Cc: Brendler, Beau; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams Joe, I do not and will not accept anybody dictating terms to me. My work is done with the full knowledge and permission of the GN. If you personally find this to be confusing, then I applaud your ability to work a computer at all. This will be my last e-mail to you so if you are a "last word freak" go for it. D _____ From: publicroot.info(a)gmail.com on behalf of Joe Baptista Sent: Thu 8/14/2008 9:47 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Brendler, Beau; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson(a)gov.nu.ca> wrote: Anything that I say on this list is on behalf of our non-profit organization, N-CAP, or myself. Then say it using a non governmental email address. Your posting from Nunavut provincial government email address. If your business here is not related to my government then kindly post from an appropriate address. You are exercising a form of deception I do not approve of. It is not on behalf of any Government. Also, unless you live in Nunavut, I am not a member of "your government". But either way, it has nothing to do with it. You most certainly are madam. Your government ultimately receives funding from Mr. Taxpayer. Thats who pays your bills - me - and people like me across Canada and Nunavut. So until the government of Nunavut stops suckling the taxpayers tit you most certainly do serve us. So kindly mind your manners and get yourself a non governmental email address if you intend to participate in this as a non government representative - because until then anyone is going to assume you making decisions on behalf of the Nunavut government and I don't think the Nunavut government has any position on Jeff Williams one way or the other. I hope this clears up any misconception. Once you get your self another email address that has no association with the Nunavut government - then there will be no further misconceptions. Until then you are using your government email address in a manner which is confusing and deceptive. kindest regards Joe Baptista Mr. Canadian Taxpayer Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca _____ From: publicroot.info <http://publicroot.info/> @gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> [mailto:publicroot.info@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joe Baptista Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:33 PM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Brendler, Beau; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams I'm a little concerned that a member of my government is participating in the censorship of others. Thats not nice for my civil servants to be meddlers and be seen to be biased on behalf of a Canadian government agency. cheers joe baptista On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson(a)gov.nu.ca> wrote: Seconded. Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe@consumer.org] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 AM To: Thompson, Darlene; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams The motion to suspend Williams permanently was seconded by Jose Salgueiro. However, no one has officially seconded the motion to suspend JFC Morfin/Louis Bleriot/Jefsey yet. So please feel free! Procedurally speaking, I'm not sure such actions can be taken by open motion, I think the authority rests with the chair. -----Original Message----- From: Thompson, Darlene [mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:41 AM To: Brendler, Beau; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams Hi Beau, Do these motions need to be seconded by another ALAC member? If not, I would definitely second both this motion and the one for Jeff Williams. Why aren't we hearing from ALAC these days? D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:07 PM To: JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams This message makes no sense in English or in French. Don't you also operate under the alias of Louis Bleriot as well? Setting up filters and deleting messages from my mailbox hinders productivity. I hearby make a motion for the moderation of JFC Morfin. Beau Brendler -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of JFC Morfin Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:51 PM To: Brendler, Beau; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams At 15:34 08/08/2008, Brendler, Beau wrote: >I'd like to make a motion that the suspension be permanent, on the >basis that similar warnings/suspensions have been issued many times >before and ignored, and that the poster has long been known to the >ICANN community as a disruptive presence. Dear Beau, I am afraid that on such a basis many would think the first to be permanently suspended should be ... ICANN. It happens that this is precisely the theme of this year as this may be the case on Sept 1st, 2009. Don't you think it could be more productive for all of us, including Jeff Williams, to debate this point, as the NTIA does. Another discussion priority could be : why france@large has not yet received the readable terms answer promised by the Staff, what prevents it to engage into any reconsideration procedure. J'ai peur que sur cette base beaucoup ne pensent que la première à devoir être suspendue de façon permanente devrait être ... l'ICANN. Il appert que ce soit précisément le thème de cette année puisque cela peut être le cas au 1er septembre 2009. Ne pensez-vous qu'il nous serait à tous plus productif, y compris à Jeff Williams, de débattre de ce point, comme le fait le NTIA. Une autre priorité de discussion pourrait être : pourquoi france@large n'a-elle toujous pas reçu la réponse en termes lisibles promise par le Staff, lui interdisant tout appel. jfc _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org/> *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ******** _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org/> *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ******** _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org/> -- Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org <http://www.publicroot.org/> PublicRoot Consortium ---------------------------------------------------------------- The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 -- Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org <http://www.publicroot.org/> PublicRoot Consortium ---------------------------------------------------------------- The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084

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August 08 ICANN Policy Update now online
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Aug. 14, 2008

Aug. 14, 2008

As not everyone on this list may be currently subscribed to the monthly ICANN Policy Update Newsletter, please note the August update is now available at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/policy/update-aug08.htm CLO

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Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams
by Brendler, Beau Aug. 14, 2008

Aug. 14, 2008

This message makes no sense in English or in French. Don't you also operate under the alias of Louis Bleriot as well? Setting up filters and deleting messages from my mailbox hinders productivity. I hearby make a motion for the moderation of JFC Morfin. Beau Brendler -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of JFC Morfin Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:51 PM To: Brendler, Beau; At-Large Staff; at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams At 15:34 08/08/2008, Brendler, Beau wrote: >I'd like to make a motion that the suspension be permanent, on the >basis that similar warnings/suspensions have been issued many times >before and ignored, and that the poster has long been known to the >ICANN community as a disruptive presence. Dear Beau, I am afraid that on such a basis many would think the first to be permanently suspended should be ... ICANN. It happens that this is precisely the theme of this year as this may be the case on Sept 1st, 2009. Don't you think it could be more productive for all of us, including Jeff Williams, to debate this point, as the NTIA does. Another discussion priority could be : why france@large has not yet received the readable terms answer promised by the Staff, what prevents it to engage into any reconsideration procedure. J'ai peur que sur cette base beaucoup ne pensent que la première à devoir être suspendue de façon permanente devrait être ... l'ICANN. Il appert que ce soit précisément le thème de cette année puisque cela peut être le cas au 1er septembre 2009. Ne pensez-vous qu'il nous serait à tous plus productif, y compris à Jeff Williams, de débattre de ce point, comme le fait le NTIA. Une autre priorité de discussion pourrait être : pourquoi france@large n'a-elle toujous pas reçu la réponse en termes lisibles promise par le Staff, lui interdisant tout appel. jfc _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********

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