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Re: [APAC-Discuss] toll free number
by Hong Xue May 8, 2008

May 8, 2008

Dear Cheryl, I will try to call in but am not sure if the toll free number is working in China Mainland or not. It used to be blocked. In case I cannot call in, could you let the operator call me at +86-10-82425692? Thanks Hong On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au> wrote: > Your Apologies will be noted Izumi... on a related matter can you let me > know when we can have a short chat (Skype will do) relating to some schedule > difficulties for all the meetings and workshop(s) we need to arrange for in > Paris Meeting and the time currently allocated for the IPv6 Workshop you > have arranged? > > Thanks > > CLO > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: izumiaizu(a)gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi > AIZU > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:23 AM > To: Asia-Pacific Discuss > Cc: Cheryl Langdon-Orr; Nick Ashton-Hart > Subject: apology > > I got a business meeting this afternoon and thus will not > be able to join the conf call of APRALO. So sorry about > that. > > best, > > izumi > > > > _______________________________________________ > APAC-Discuss mailing list > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org >

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myanmar cyclone
by Edmon Chung May 6, 2008

May 6, 2008

Hi Everyone, I wonder if anyone is aware of efforts for relief for the myanmar cyclone. We at DotAsia are exploring what we can do to contribute, would like to see if there is anyone who is already working on anything. Edmon

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO planning for IGF
by Hong Xue May 3, 2008

May 3, 2008

The Workshop Proposal is posted at APRALO wiki at https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?planning_for_igf_2008 Hong On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:11 PM, nirmol agarwal <nirmolagarwal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Hong, > > I know it is a bit late in the day to ask you for this but, if you can let > me know how to get on to the page where you have posted your IGF proposal. > > I have been travelling for the past few days and didn't got chance to check > my mails. > > Rgds, > > N. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Given that the submission deadline is coming very soon and I won't > > have any Internet access tomorrow, I made a draft and posted at > > > http://intgovforum.org/interface/interface/proposal_View.php?response_id=29 > > > > Editions are very welcome still. > > > > Hong > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Peake, > > > > > > Thank you for very insightful suggestions. My colleagues at the APRALO > > > would be grateful for your suggestions on the following issues: > > > > > > Could we apply for a session at the plenary, rather than a parallel > > > workshop? This is a the first IGF in AP region that is most Internet > > > populous. APRALO would like to do more contribution for the Internet > > > users in this region. > > > > > > Hong Xue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Adam Peake <ajp(a)glocom.ac.jp> wrote: > > > > Dear Hong, > > > > > > > > This looks like an interesting proposal, thanks! > > > > > > > > I'm a member of the IGF advisory group and have some information > that might > > > > help you. We realized that completing all the information in the > workshop > > > > proposal questionnaire by the April 30 deadline would quite > difficult, so > > > > for April 30 it's only necessary to answer questions 1, 2, 4 and 9. > If you > > > > can answer more, then please do, but the basic questions are: > > > > > > > > 1. Name of proposed workshop > > > > > > > > 2. Provide a concise description of the proposed workshop theme > including > > > > its importance and relevance to the IGF. > > > > > > > > 4. Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their > > > > affiliation to various stakeholder groups. Describe how you will take > steps > > > > to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, geographical diversity > and > > > > gender balance. > > > > > > > > 9. Under which of the five IGF themes does the proposal fall under ? > > > > (access, critical Internet resources, diversity, openness, security) > > > > > > > > Question 2 requires a description of the workshop in about 100- 200 > words, > > > > then list up the names of organizations you would like to invite. IGF > > > > workshops should try to present a range of points of view on an > issue. It's > > > > important to make sure a broad range of interests are represented. > > > > > > > > People perhaps able to help could be Raj Singh, now with ISOC and of > course > > > > very familiar with APRALO. Theresa Swinehart, Global Partnerships. > I think > > > > Theresa might be coordinating ICANN's efforts in Hyderabad (and if > not she's > > > > anyway a member of the IGF advisory group so I expect would be > helpful.) > > > > > > > > Milton Mueller is working on a related proposal you might be > interested to > > > > see > <http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2008-04/msg00424.html> No > > > > overlap with what you're proposing. And best to make sure you don't > overlap > > > > or you may be asked to combine your proposals. > > > > > > > > And... last, about the proposal itself (and this is my personal > opinion, > > > > nothing to do with the advisory group). Given that most international > policy > > > > processes are conducted in English (of course some have > interpretation etc, > > > > but the default tends to be English) the idea of looking at > multilingual > > > > services and multilingual policy-making is very interesting. And very > > > > important to users. I suggest you look beyond just ICANN and try to > include > > > > other organizations -- how do they involve users, how do they address > > > > multilingual issues (ITU, IETF, W3C, WIPO, etc etc.) > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:05 PM +0800 4/26/08, Hong Xue wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Please see my draft proposal for a workshop at IGF 2008 at > > > > > https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?planning_for_igf_2008. > > > > > > > > > > This is the very preliminary draft for us to "hold a place" at the > IGF > > > > > schedule. Feel free to make any change or supplement on the draft. > I > > > > > hope all the comments could be wrapped up by April 29, which would > > > > > make us submit the proposal on April 30. > > > > > > > > > > Hong > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > APAC-Discuss mailing list > > > > > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > > > > > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > APAC-Discuss mailing list > > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org > > > >

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO planning for IGF
by Hong Xue April 30, 2008

April 30, 2008

IGF website asks for passcode, so I copied the whole page onto APRALO wiki. Hong On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Karaitiana Taiuru <karaitiana(a)taiuru.maori.nz> wrote: > Hong, > > Sorry but there is no proposal there at the moment. The page states the > record can not be found. > > Warm Regards > Karaitiana Taiuru > > > -----Original Message----- > From: apac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org]On Behalf Of Hong > Xue > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2008 8:05 p.m. > To: Adam Peake > Cc: apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; Cheryl Langdon-Orr > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO planning for IGF > > > > > Given that the submission deadline is coming very soon and I won't > have any Internet access tomorrow, I made a draft and posted at > http://intgovforum.org/interface/interface/proposal_View.php?response_id=29 > > Editions are very welcome still. > > Hong > > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Mr. Peake, > > > > Thank you for very insightful suggestions. My colleagues at the APRALO > > would be grateful for your suggestions on the following issues: > > > > Could we apply for a session at the plenary, rather than a parallel > > workshop? This is a the first IGF in AP region that is most Internet > > populous. APRALO would like to do more contribution for the Internet > > users in this region. > > > > Hong Xue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Adam Peake <ajp(a)glocom.ac.jp> wrote: > > > Dear Hong, > > > > > > This looks like an interesting proposal, thanks! > > > > > > I'm a member of the IGF advisory group and have some information that > might > > > help you. We realized that completing all the information in the > workshop > > > proposal questionnaire by the April 30 deadline would quite difficult, > so > > > for April 30 it's only necessary to answer questions 1, 2, 4 and 9. If > you > > > can answer more, then please do, but the basic questions are: > > > > > > 1. Name of proposed workshop > > > > > > 2. Provide a concise description of the proposed workshop theme > including > > > its importance and relevance to the IGF. > > > > > > 4. Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their > > > affiliation to various stakeholder groups. Describe how you will take > steps > > > to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, geographical diversity > and > > > gender balance. > > > > > > 9. Under which of the five IGF themes does the proposal fall under ? > > > (access, critical Internet resources, diversity, openness, security) > > > > > > Question 2 requires a description of the workshop in about 100- 200 > words, > > > then list up the names of organizations you would like to invite. IGF > > > workshops should try to present a range of points of view on an issue. > It's > > > important to make sure a broad range of interests are represented. > > > > > > People perhaps able to help could be Raj Singh, now with ISOC and of > course > > > very familiar with APRALO. Theresa Swinehart, Global Partnerships. I > think > > > Theresa might be coordinating ICANN's efforts in Hyderabad (and if not > she's > > > anyway a member of the IGF advisory group so I expect would be > helpful.) > > > > > > Milton Mueller is working on a related proposal you might be > interested to > > > see <http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2008-04/msg00424.html> > No > > > overlap with what you're proposing. And best to make sure you don't > overlap > > > or you may be asked to combine your proposals. > > > > > > And... last, about the proposal itself (and this is my personal > opinion, > > > nothing to do with the advisory group). Given that most international > policy > > > processes are conducted in English (of course some have interpretation > etc, > > > but the default tends to be English) the idea of looking at > multilingual > > > services and multilingual policy-making is very interesting. And very > > > important to users. I suggest you look beyond just ICANN and try to > include > > > other organizations -- how do they involve users, how do they address > > > multilingual issues (ITU, IETF, W3C, WIPO, etc etc.) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:05 PM +0800 4/26/08, Hong Xue wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Please see my draft proposal for a workshop at IGF 2008 at > > > > https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?planning_for_igf_2008. > > > > > > > > This is the very preliminary draft for us to "hold a place" at the > IGF > > > > schedule. Feel free to make any change or supplement on the draft. I > > > > hope all the comments could be wrapped up by April 29, which would > > > > make us submit the proposal on April 30. > > > > > > > > Hong > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > APAC-Discuss mailing list > > > > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > > > > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > APAC-Discuss mailing list > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org > >

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] Important: Resigning from ALAC Position at ICANN
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 28, 2008

April 28, 2008

Dear Veronica: On behalf of the staff may I say that we are sorry to see you leave though we can understand that volunteer activities must take a back seat to your other obligations. It has been a pleasure to work with you, and we hope you will remain connected to the community going forward. We wish you the very best! On 28/04/2008 11:55, "Veronica Cretu" <VeronicaC(a)diplomacy.edu> wrote: Dear colleagues! Warm greetings from Moldova! Hope my message finds you well! I am currently involved as an international expert in a big project for the Ministry of Education of Liberia and will have to spend more than three weeks there starting from May 15. The NGO I run here in Moldova is also involved in many national projects which require very much of my direct involvement: monitoring and evaluation. In this context, it is quite a challenge to find additional time for ALAC activities when I am full-time involved in so many activities. That is why, it is my duty to inform you all that due to the many projects I am currently in charge of, I have to unfortunately resign from my ALAC position. It has not been an easy decision to make at all! I just can not stay in ALAC any longer just for the sake of being on ALAC/AtLarge - I prefer to be effective and to produce impact. And this is smth for which I simply don't have time now! I must say that ALAC has been a great experience for me and I am truly thankful to everyone on ALAC who have been day by day, side by side during this last year. I have learned a lot from this professional, hard-working, committed and culturally diverse community. * I want to thank my European colleagues: Annette and Wolfgang Kleinwächter in the first place, for their confidence in me and for believing that I can bring something new to ALAC, even if I am from Eastern Europe:)! * I am very thankful to Cheryl and Izumi for their openness and for their professional support on the initiatives I launched on ALAC. * I am happy for having worked with my European colleagues: Sebastian and Wolf and all my respect for all EURALO board members for the patience, passion and possible solutions they have been trying to identify in order to make EURALO start working on policy related issues in the region; * My thanks go also for my North American colleagues: Alan, Robert and Beau - for their professional work and support whenever needed; * Jose Ovidio, Carlos, Hawa - my admiration for the effort and time you invest in ALAC - I know it has not been easy for you given the language barriers that you have been facing so far; * Mohamed, Fatimata, Vanda and Thu Hue - many thanks for your energy, time and devotion and for your friendly support on the ideas I was promoting on ALAC/Atlarge. * Many thanks to current ALAC liaisons: Hong, Jacqueline and Wendy; * And of course, my many thanks to Nick - I know it is not an easy task to handle the communication and collaboration with such a big and diverse community. Thank you for your support throughout this year. I know ICANN staff will do much more in order to support ALAC/AtLarge become a viable and strong community now with more staff members in place. I am glad I managed to bring to ALAC/AtLarge some ideas and practices that go back to my professional background. Because I strongly believe that "A policy is a deliberate plan of action to guide decisions and achieve rational outcome(s)." back in Puerto Rico (my first ICANN meeting) I came to the conclusion that ALAC /At Large needs to have a set of mechanisms via which these policies are identified, promoted and evaluated. These are the few things that I have managed to do in the period of June 2007 - present: - I initiated the "OneDay" Workshop for ALAC/AtLarge. - I have designed the agenda and conducted together with Cheryl and Izumi two "OneDay" workshops before ICANN meetings in Los-Angeles and New Delhi. - I have compiled OneDay Evaluation Reports, based on the feedback from ALAC/AtLarge members who have participated in these meetings; - Back in New Delhi, I made a statement on behalf of ALAC on Organizational Development; - I elaborated the ALAC Organizational Development document that focuses on several components of the ALAC's developments; - I proposed a document on "What is an ALAC/AtLarge" Working Group - and the document was used for planning activities per certain working groups during the OneDay workshop in New Delhi ; - I have recently transferred some of the good practices that came as a result of this Organizational Development processes on ALAC into the GNSO Improvements Report. - Along with all the above, I organized a three days training program on Internet Governance and Community Development in Moldova ( www.cmb.md/igf <http://www.cmb.md/igf><http://www.cmb.md/igf> ), during which we had a special session on ALAC/AtLarge @ ICANN. Training participants were 16 young leaders representing civil society, business sector, international community and the Government. - I have had several discussions with APTI members from Romania , as they were our project partners in the above Program, and as a result we have recently received their application in order to become an accredited ALS structure @ICANN from our part of the world. All the reports and documents I produced have been available since produced at https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?organisational_development . To conclude, I want to encourage you to contact me/stay in touch in case you are interested in working on projects/initiatives dealing with ICT for Development, Access to Knowledge, Internet Governance, Community Development, IDNs, Education, Virtual Embassies, Climate Change, etc. both regionally and/or internationally! Good luck with all your initiatives and all the best! As ever, Veronica ________________________________ Veronica Cretu, President, CMB Training Center CMB - Promoting innovations in Communication, Management and Business Chisinau, Moldova www.cmb.md <http://www.cmb.md/><http://www.cmb.md/> www.cmb.md/igf <http://www.cmb.md/igf><http://www.cmb.md/igf> +373 22 27 45 04, 273196 email: vcretu(a)cmb.md <javascript:openWin('/WorldClient.dll?Session=EJQQNER&View=Compose&To=vcretu(a)cmb.md&New=Yes','Compose',800,600,'yes');> VeronicaC(a)diplomacy.edu <javascript:openWin('/WorldClient.dll?Session=EJQQNER&View=Compose&To=VeronicaC(a)diplomacy.edu&New=Yes','Compose',800,600,'yes');> -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO planning for IGF
by Hong Xue April 26, 2008

April 26, 2008

Dear All, Please see my draft proposal for a workshop at IGF 2008 at https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?planning_for_igf_2008. This is the very preliminary draft for us to "hold a place" at the IGF schedule. Feel free to make any change or supplement on the draft. I hope all the comments could be wrapped up by April 29, which would make us submit the proposal on April 30. Hong

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GNSO Improvements - ALAC and Joint Statements - comments requested
by At-Large Staff April 24, 2008

April 24, 2008

Dear All: As you may recall, an Ad-Hoc Working Group on GNSO Improvements, with representatives of each RALO, has been working on a response to the public consultation on the Board Governance Committee¹s proposals for improvements to the GNSO. As a part of that work, the working group was also engaged in negotiations with various communities within the GNSO Community, including the Commercial and Business Users, Intellectual Property, Internet Service and Connectino Providers, and Non-Commercial Users Constituencies. The Joint Statement that resulted from those discussions was posted to the public comment forum today, and is accessible at: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvements-report-2008/msg00012.html. The Working Group also produced a draft statement for transmission to the Board of Directors by the ALAC in its role as an Advisory Committee. That document was subject to a community comment period, and the working group incorporated those comments received however, the working group took the decision that it would be better to wait to finalise the text until after the Joint Statement was finished, so that the At-Large community could take one final look at the two statements, make any comments, and if necessary those comments could then be dealt with in the ALAC¹s individual statement. The ALAC also discussed the progress on this issue at its meeting earlier this month. The Staff have been asked to post a version of the ALAC statement, as well as the Joint Statement, so that comments can be taken. It is envisaged that we will be able to take comments for a few days as the statement can be transmitted to the board following the end of the public comment period on the GNSO Improvements draft, which finishes on the 24th of April. You may access both the draft ALAC Statement, and the Joint Statement, from this URL. Please do use the comment button to provide any comments you care to make. https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?al_alac_gnim_wg_01_01_alac_statemen t_on_gnso_improvements -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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apology
by Izumi AIZU April 21, 2008

April 21, 2008

I got a business meeting this afternoon and thus will not be able to join the conf call of APRALO. So sorry about that. best, izumi

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ALAC Review - Request for Input
by At-Large Staff April 14, 2008

April 14, 2008

Dear All: We have been asked to forward you the below from the team performing the ALAC Review. We hope that you will take this opportunity to provide your views to the review if you have not already done so. --- This email follows our earlier request for feedback to the Independent Review of the At-Large Advisory Committee, being conducted by Westlake Consulting Limited. The closing date for submissions is Friday 18th April. Therefore, if you wish to provide any input or feedback on any of the individual questions in the Terms of Reference <http://www.icann.org/reviews/alac/alac-review-final-tor-20jun07.pdf> , or ³to contribute observations or information about any aspect of the role, structure or operation of the ALAC,² please email alacreview(a)westlakenz.com by Friday 18th April. The main issues the Review Team has to address are: - [To determine] whether the ALAC has a continuing purpose in the ICANN structure; and, - If so, whether any change in structure or operations is desirable to improve its effectiveness. If you would prefer a telephone or Skype call, rather than responding by email, please send your contact details to the same email address, alacreview(a)westlakenz.com, and a member of the Westlake Team will contact you shortly. Among other matters the Terms of Reference note, ³It will be important to consider different perspectives relevant to the ALAC, including the views of individual Internet users, the ALSs, the RALOs, past and current Members of the ALAC, and many others within (and perhaps outside) the ICANN community.² As a result, the Review Team is seeking as wide a range of relevant views as possible. Confidentiality: the Westlake Review Team¹s policy on confidentiality is as follows: ³Your feedback will be treated in confidence. It will not be shared outside the four consultants who comprise the review team (and our office support staff). We might quote from your feedback in our report to ICANN, but we will not identify you as the author. So please feel free to be frank with us.² Westlake Consulting NZ -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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[Fwd: Open Forum Invitation: in preparation for OECD Ministerial meeting on the Future of the Internet, Jun 16, Seoul, Korea]
by Rajnesh D. Singh April 11, 2008

April 11, 2008

Dear Colleagues, Please note the following which may be of interest to your organisation. Regards, R. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Rajnesh D. Singh [mailto:singh@isoc.org] *Sent:* Saturday, 12 April 2008 4:41 AM *To:* AP *Subject:* Open Forum Invitation: in preparation for OECD Ministerial meeting on the Future of the Internet, Jun 16, Seoul, Korea *Importance:* High Dear colleague, We are pleased to confirm that the Internet Technical Community (ITC) will be hosting an open Forum on the 16^th June, in Seoul, Korea. We would be honored if members from your organization attended this event. The Internet technical community <http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/issues/oecd_ministerial.shtml> has been actively engaged in the preparation of the next OECD ministerial conference that will be held from the 17^th to the 19^th June in Korea. Acting as a liaison between the OECD Secretary General and the Internet Technical Community, the Internet Society (ISOC) has been coordinating the ITC's participation in the OECD ICCP meetings over the last year. This forum is designed to be a direct contribution to the ministers' work within three areas: Creativity, Confidence and Convergence. This will be a great opportunity for the Internet Technical Community and OECD member states' delegates to share experiences and exchange perspectives on the "Future of the Internet Economy". Deadline for registration is 31 May 2008. An agenda for the ITC open Forum is available online here: http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/issues/itc_agenda_20080616.shtml Background on the OECD Ministerial meeting is available here: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/63/38/38363529.pdf (PDF) http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/issues/oecd_ministerial.shtml http://www.oecdministerialseoul2008.org/en We look forward seeing you in Seoul! Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require further information. Best regards, Rajnesh D. Singh Regional Manager, Bureau for South and Southeast Asia Internet Society (ISOC) singh(a)isoc.org <mailto:singh@isoc.org> Constance Bommelaer Senior Manager of Public Policy Internet Society (ISOC) bommelaer(a)isoc.org <mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org>

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