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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 24, 2008

May 24, 2008

John and all, There should be no preference as registrants are also users. Registrants should have no more or no less level of privacy that any non-registrant user has and is guarenteed them under the law of their country of origin or domocile. -----Original Message----- >From: John Levine <johnl(a)iecc.com> >Sent: May 23, 2008 5:13 PM >To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> >Cc: alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy > >> Privacy is a fundamental human right recognized in the UN Declaration of >> Human Rights, the International Convenant on Civil and Political Rights >> and in many other international and regional treaties. If you require >> some basic information on privacy rights as they exist in your >> jurisdiction, please feel free to contact: > >Sounds great. So are we agreed that a core value of ICANN should be to >protect the privacy of all individual Internet users, without giving >preference to the small minority who have registered domains? > >Regards, >John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", >Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor >"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 24, 2008

May 24, 2008

Michele and all, Agreed. Lets not forget that the only "Privacy Provider" for individuals privacy is the individual him/herself. No legislation or regulation of whatever sort, should allow criminals to hide, and those that are in violation as we have all recently seem with the errant News spam to this forum is included. Intentional Spam is a crime. Failure to report such is also a crime. -----Original Message----- >From: Michele Neylon <michele(a)blacknight.ie> >Sent: May 23, 2008 5:37 PM >To: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy > >I'd support Danny in this quite happily. > >The counter-arguments that have been raised all work on the basis that >privacy equates with privacy providers. That doesn't have to be the case. > >If you register a .ie, co.uk or a .eu you are granted a degree of >privacy be default in line with EU legislation. > >That does not mean that a criminal can hide. > >Regards > >Michele > > >-- >Mr Michele Neylon >Blacknight Solutions >Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection >http://www.blacknight.com/ >http://blog.blacknight.com/ >Tel. 1850 929 929 >Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 >Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 >------------------------------- >Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business >Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 24, 2008

May 24, 2008

Vini and all, Well at least we agree on a few important things, but still disagree on others. That's progress! >:) First, no one of reasonable intelligence believes anything Wikipedia says about any organization or individual for well documented reasons. Second, Geneva Conventions were and sometimes still are convenient when things are not going so well for some group or nation in turmoil, than when things settle down, the Geneva conventions are easily ignored and ignored routinely. Third, Bulgaria was smart and remains so in not having a credit card system, however ICANN early on in 1999 mandated the need for a credit card for registering a Domain Name despite that being a restraint of trade and a disadvantage to countries like Bulgaria. It is true that issues that concern the good ole USA are not always shared by other countries especially those countries that are not democratic, are run by dictators or military junta's. And that is how things should be, so let those countries develop, deploy and market their own Internet anchored by their respective ccTLD's. I am sure that Estonia would be happy to help Bulgaria develop their own Internet as I am just as sure that Iran would be more than happy to help Iraq and Afghanistan develop theirs as well. >:) But frankly I believe the largess of the rest of the world can do without the additional spam. All this chatter about what should be "Core Values" is nothing new in the ICANN jaundra, it is only being rehashed. Yet if ICANN ever expects to break away for US control, it will need to be very strong in it's "Core Values" that the US has historically supported and espoused for decades. -----Original Message----- >From: Veni Markovski <veni(a)veni.com> >Sent: May 23, 2008 7:19 PM >To: Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info>, At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy > >Hi. > >As long as we talk about conventions, how about the Geneva conventions >( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions ) ? > >ICANN should treat PoW civilized, and should not use chemical weapons. > >Of course, one can only wonder how amazingly different topics could be >produced on this list, which cause people to waste time to read and >respond to them. > >Privacy issues are quite different in the USA (where they will take >your phone number in any grocery "for the discounts card"), in >Bulgaria, where social security numbers, SSN, can be found in any >federal, regional or municipal institution ( but then, the SSN is of >no usage, as there is no working credit card system), or in Canada, or >in Denmark or Sweden. Or in China, Australia, South Africa, etc. > >The problems that are of concern for the American At Large members are >not necessarily the ones of concern for the rest of the world. > >Ah, and let's not forget also the interest of the commercial >registrants for their own privacy (and in some cases at the users' >expense) > >Best, >Veni > > > > >On 5/23/08, Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info> wrote: >> Before we start making a laundry list of values - let's first review >> existing statements and values mentioned both by users and At-large. >> Privacy is such a core value - and I support - Danny's proposal that >> privacy be added as a core value. >> >> On the topic of additional values - instead of listing individual >> rights (such as privacy, gender, etc) we might want instead to focus >> on having ICANN adopt as a key value - a strong endorsement of the >> international norms such as the Vienna convention on human rights. The >> logic being, if it wants to act as an international body - they it >> should adopt and promote rights already agreed to by the international >> community. >> >> >> http://www.unhchr.ch/huridocda/huridoca.nsf/(Symbol)/A.CONF.157.23.En >> >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> On 23-May-08, at 3:26 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >> >>> Hi Danny >>> Not to say I agree or disagree, but I would like to ask - why privacy >>> as a core value and not for example adding gender into core value #4 >>> (functional, geographic, and cultural diversity ) >>> Why is privacy a core value in your opinion? >>> Jacqueline >>> Danny Younger wrote: >>>> Dear members of the ALAC: >>>> >>>> As you may be aware, privacy is not an ICANN "Core >>>> Value". The word "privacy" does not appear within the >>>> bylaws. I am of the view that ICANN would be well >>>> served by articulating that it respects privacy. >>>> >>>> If we ultimately seek to arrive at a consensus on the >>>> fundamental issue of protection of personal privacy, >>>> we need to have a starting point to stimulate >>>> ICANN-wide discussion. Accordingly, I am asking you >>>> to drive home this point by petitioning the ICANN >>>> Board to amend its core values section in the bylaws >>>> so that privacy may come to be acknowledged as a value >>>> to be respected. >>>> >>>> I look forward to your comments. >>>> >>>> Danny Younger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ALAC mailing list >>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> >>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ALAC mailing list >>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> >>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> > >-- >Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Testing IPv6
by WWWhatsup May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

> >This article appeared today on a Canadian IT website: > >http://vip.itworldcanada.com/t?r=2&c=8440&l=7158&ctl=39C07:C6754470ADC4CFC8… In that article it says: >One sign that demand for IPv6 is growing -- and also a good way to test if your own Internet connection is ready for IPv6 -- is Google's introduction of direct access to its search engine for IPv6 users, which the company announced on its official blog on Tuesday. The address ipv6.google.com will only work if you have an IPv6 connection, according to Google. Much to my surprise that, while it doesn't eork on my XP SP3 box, http://ipv6.google.com/ works fine in IE7 on my vanilla Vista box connected via Verizon (aka the VVV :) The teredo tunneling protocol is suppoosedly built in to Vista by default, but I still find it hard to credit that it works out of the box, and supposedly it's in XP SP2 too, so that can't be it. I had tested a sample video stream mentioned on nanog last week (it's supposed to go full screen PAL @ 1.5mpbs if you have IPv6 - otherwise it's 320x240 @400kpbs ) with no joy - http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp I note that the intriguing http://www.ipv6experiment.com/ is yet to go onstream. Joly MacFie http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [At-Large] Privacy, rights and fall meeting..
by Jacqueline A. Morris May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

Well - I don't. Jacqueline. Of course, Jacque might, whoever that may be! Jeffrey A. Williams wrote: > Jacque and all, > > If I understand you correctly you want non discrimination > due to gender added as a "Core Value" re the Egypt fall meeting, > and if not, than privacy should also not be added or is redundant. > I do strongly agree as a "Core Value" non discrimination due > to race, gender or condition of servitude should be such > "Core Values" and so added accordingly and specifically. > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> >> Sent: May 23, 2008 2:17 PM >> To: Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info> >> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Privacy, rights and fall meeting.. >> >> All I asked is WHY it's important to you and Danny. If you don't want to >> answer, fine. >> I NEVER suggested that we act to have gender be added - I simply noted >> that it wasn't there (as many other values aren't) so why do you guys >> want privacy added? >> And I have no idea what you are talking about re Egypt. >> Jacqueline >> >> Robert Guerra wrote: >> >>> Jacqueline: >>> >>> Have we had discussions about gender before in regards to icann >>> policy? Is there a working group, policy group that is talking about >>> gender? have any user groups and/or at-large groups raised the issue >>> before? >>> I don't think so. If you want to start that - new - discussion, please >>> feel free to do so. >>> >>> At-large groups have commented on the importance of privacy, and such >>> - it is the reason I am supportive of Danny's proposal. I'm not saying >>> one right is more important then the other - just that ALAC has raised >>> the right of Privacy as a right before and we should include it as a >>> core value. >>> >>> Of course, having ICANN adopt and include more comprehensive core >>> values that are support of human rights would be most welcome. As >>> I've mentioned before, instead of including a laundry list of rights >>> to include (and ones to exclude) at-large might prefer instead to >>> support that ICANN adopt the UNDHR as a core value. Countries have >>> done so at the UN - icann should as well. >>> >>> btw. I still haven't gotten any comments from you or others on the >>> ALAC in regards to my request to ICANN management to state if they >>> will seek assurances from the Egyptian authorities that users from >>> both Egypt and the region will be able to freely attend the meeting >>> and have access to an unfiltered internet. In short I am most >>> disappointed that ALAC and the at-large community seems mostly >>> silent on the issue.. >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 23-May-08, at 4:08 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> hi Robert >>>> Since you also indicate that you think privacy is a core value, I >>>> will ask you the question as well - what in your opinion makes >>>> privacy a core value? What are the reasons? I can see gender being a >>>> core value , it's pretty universal, I can see cultural diversity - >>>> pretty much universal as well - basically all the human rights >>>> ones. Privacy isn't a value enshrined in consitutions and cultures >>>> universally AFAIK. So it will help explain it if you guys could say >>>> what it is, and why it's a core value. >>>> >>>> Jacqueline >>>> Robert Guerra wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Before we start making a laundry list of values - let's first >>>>> review existing statements and values mentioned both by users and >>>>> At-large. Privacy is such a core value - and I support - Danny's >>>>> proposal that privacy be added as a core value. >>>>> >>>>> On the topic of additional values - instead of listing individual >>>>> rights (such as privacy, gender, etc) we might want instead to >>>>> focus on having ICANN adopt as a key value - a strong endorsement >>>>> of the international norms such as the Vienna convention on human >>>>> rights. The logic being, if it wants to act as an international >>>>> body - they it should adopt and promote rights already agreed to >>>>> by the international community. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.unhchr.ch/huridocda/huridoca.nsf/(Symbol)/A.CONF.157.23.En >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 23-May-08, at 3:26 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Danny >>>>>> Not to say I agree or disagree, but I would like to ask - why >>>>>> privacy >>>>>> as a core value and not for example adding gender into core value #4 >>>>>> (functional, geographic, and cultural diversity ) >>>>>> Why is privacy a core value in your opinion? >>>>>> Jacqueline >>>>>> Danny Younger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear members of the ALAC: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As you may be aware, privacy is not an ICANN "Core >>>>>>> Value". The word "privacy" does not appear within the >>>>>>> bylaws. I am of the view that ICANN would be well >>>>>>> served by articulating that it respects privacy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we ultimately seek to arrive at a consensus on the >>>>>>> fundamental issue of protection of personal privacy, >>>>>>> we need to have a starting point to stimulate >>>>>>> ICANN-wide discussion. Accordingly, I am asking you >>>>>>> to drive home this point by petitioning the ICANN >>>>>>> Board to amend its core values section in the bylaws >>>>>>> so that privacy may come to be acknowledged as a value >>>>>>> to be respected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I look forward to your comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Danny Younger >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> ALAC mailing list >>>>>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> ALAC mailing list >>>>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>>> >>>>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ALAC mailing list >>>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> >>>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ALAC mailing list >>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> >>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> > > Regards, > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - > Abraham Lincoln > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] > =============================================================== > Updated 1/26/04 > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. > div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail > jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com > My Phone: 214-244-4827 >

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Re: [At-Large] Most Spam Sites Tied to a Handful of Registrars
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

Michele and all, Yes these are the top ten out of 20+. The washington post left out the larger registrars like register.com, godaddy, and towcows. But what's far more important is that ICANN is sitting on it's hands in addressing this known problem. Seems to me that the DOJ needs to look into such more closely. Seems to me that aiding and abetting any illegal act with intent as this seems to be regarding ICANN, is far less than expectable. Action by the DOJ is long overdue. -----Original Message----- >From: Michele Neylon <michele(a)blacknight.ie> >Sent: May 23, 2008 5:42 AM >To: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] Most Spam Sites Tied to a Handful of Registrars > > >On 23 May 2008, at 13:29, Danny Younger wrote: > >> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/05/most_spam_sites_tied_to_… >> >> Top Ten List: >> 1. Xinnet Bei Gong Da Software >> 2. BEIJINGNN >> 3. Todaynic >> 4. Joker >> 5. eNom, Inc. >> 6. MONIKER >> 7. Dynamic Dolphin >> 8. The Nameit Co/AITDOMAINS.COM >> 9. PDR >> 10. Intercosmos/DIRECTNIC >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > >Todaynic are spammers themselves, so it's hardly surprising that >they're on that list. > >It's a pity that ICANN does not take action against the likes of >TodayNic. I get more than a little p****ed off with their blog and >forum spam techniques > >Regards > >Michele > >Mr Michele Neylon >Blacknight Solutions >Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection >http://www.blacknight.com/ >http://blog.blacknight.com/ >Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 >Locall: 1850 929 929 >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 >Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 >------------------------------- >Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business >Park,Sleaty >Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] Testing IPv6
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

Joly and all, Googles implimentation of IPv6 is improper, as wheather or not you have a IPv6 network connection, proper tunneling should allow any connection to access IPv6 based sites. Ergo, Google is yet again demonstrating it's less than considerate attitude towards consumers/users and in doing so also harming the expansion of IPv6 accordingly. However given Googles corproate culture, I am not surprised. -----Original Message----- >From: WWWhatsup <joly(a)punkcast.com> >Sent: May 23, 2008 11:40 AM >To: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [At-Large] Testing IPv6 > > >> >>This article appeared today on a Canadian IT website: >> >>http://vip.itworldcanada.com/t?r=2&c=8440&l=7158&ctl=39C07:C6754470ADC4CFC8… > > >In that article it says: > >>One sign that demand for IPv6 is growing -- and also a good way to test if your own Internet connection is ready for IPv6 -- is Google's introduction of direct access to its search engine for IPv6 users, which the company announced on its official blog on Tuesday. The address ipv6.google.com will only work if you have an IPv6 connection, according to Google. > >Much to my surprise that, while it doesn't eork on my XP SP3 box, http://ipv6.google.com/ works fine in IE7 on my vanilla Vista box connected via Verizon (aka the VVV :) > >The teredo tunneling protocol is suppoosedly built in to Vista by default, but I still find it hard to credit >that it works out of the box, and supposedly it's in XP SP2 too, so that can't be it. > >I had tested a sample video stream mentioned on nanog last week (it's supposed to go full screen PAL @ 1.5mpbs if you have IPv6 - >otherwise it's 320x240 @400kpbs ) with no joy - http://master.nacevi.cz/ct24v6.asp > >I note that the intriguing http://www.ipv6experiment.com/ is yet to go onstream. > >Joly MacFie > >http://isoc-ny.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > WWWhatsup NYC >http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

Jacque and all, Privacy has always, sense the Bill of Rights in the United States of America been a "Core Value" by such and other Constitutional Acts, such as the Privacy Act, Financial Privacy Act, and the 4th amendment. Internationally, the UN recognizes privacy as a "Core Value" and that such should be considered universal. Ergo, and frankly Jacque, you have little idea of which you speak. -----Original Message----- >From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> >Sent: May 23, 2008 1:08 PM >To: Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info> >Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Action Requested on Privacy > >hi Robert >Since you also indicate that you think privacy is a core value, I will >ask you the question as well - what in your opinion makes privacy a core >value? What are the reasons? >I can see gender being a core value , it's pretty universal, I can see >cultural diversity - pretty much universal as well - basically all the >human rights ones. Privacy isn't a value enshrined in consitutions and >cultures universally AFAIK. So it will help explain it if you guys could >say what it is, and why it's a core value. > >Jacqueline >Robert Guerra wrote: >> Before we start making a laundry list of values - let's first review >> existing statements and values mentioned both by users and At-large. >> Privacy is such a core value - and I support - Danny's proposal that >> privacy be added as a core value. >> >> On the topic of additional values - instead of listing individual >> rights (such as privacy, gender, etc) we might want instead to focus >> on having ICANN adopt as a key value - a strong endorsement of the >> international norms such as the Vienna convention on human rights. The >> logic being, if it wants to act as an international body - they it >> should adopt and promote rights already agreed to by the international >> community. >> >> >> http://www.unhchr.ch/huridocda/huridoca.nsf/(Symbol)/A.CONF.157.23.En >> >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> On 23-May-08, at 3:26 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Danny >>> Not to say I agree or disagree, but I would like to ask - why privacy >>> as a core value and not for example adding gender into core value #4 >>> (functional, geographic, and cultural diversity ) >>> Why is privacy a core value in your opinion? >>> Jacqueline >>> Danny Younger wrote: >>> >>>> Dear members of the ALAC: >>>> >>>> As you may be aware, privacy is not an ICANN "Core >>>> Value". The word "privacy" does not appear within the >>>> bylaws. I am of the view that ICANN would be well >>>> served by articulating that it respects privacy. >>>> >>>> If we ultimately seek to arrive at a consensus on the >>>> fundamental issue of protection of personal privacy, >>>> we need to have a starting point to stimulate >>>> ICANN-wide discussion. Accordingly, I am asking you >>>> to drive home this point by petitioning the ICANN >>>> Board to amend its core values section in the bylaws >>>> so that privacy may come to be acknowledged as a value >>>> to be respected. >>>> >>>> I look forward to your comments. >>>> >>>> Danny Younger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ALAC mailing list >>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> >>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ALAC mailing list >>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> >>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Govts should intervene on IPV4 allocation: OECD
by Evan Leibovitch May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

This article appeared today on a Canadian IT website: http://vip.itworldcanada.com/t?r=2&c=8440&l=7158&ctl=39C07:C6754470ADC4CFC8… Interesting that ICANN was never mentioned in that article. - Evan

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Most Spam Sites Tied to a Handful of Registrars
by Danny Younger May 23, 2008

May 23, 2008

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/05/most_spam_sites_tied_to_… Top Ten List: 1. Xinnet Bei Gong Da Software 2. BEIJINGNN 3. Todaynic 4. Joker 5. eNom, Inc. 6. MONIKER 7. Dynamic Dolphin 8. The Nameit Co/AITDOMAINS.COM 9. PDR 10. Intercosmos/DIRECTNIC

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