May 2008 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

Code of Conduct for continued participation /discussion on this list
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr May 27, 2008

May 27, 2008

Obviously it is time to post to this list (another) copy of the Code of Conduct applying to this list.mm From Page 16 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure. Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC Chair 2007-2008 Rule 22 - Code of Conduct 22.1 The ALAC discussion lists and its other online collaborative spaces serve two purposes. They are where we discuss ICANN-related policy issues and attend to administrative tasks related to the management of ALAC. 22.2 Content that is acceptable in our online collaborative spaces is defined as: 22.3 Discussion on ICANN-related policy issues, 22.4 Discussion of ALAC administrative matters, 22.5 Announcements of conferences, events, or activities related to ICANN matters. 22.6 Inappropriate postings include: 22.7 Unsolicited bulk e-mail, 22.8 Discussion of subjects unrelated to ICANN policy, meetings, activities, or technical concerns, 22.9 Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject, 22.10 Postings libellous being used to abuse, harass, stalk, or threaten others, 22.11 Postings that are, knowingly false, ad-hominem, or misrepresents another person, 22.12 Postings that violate an obligation of confidentiality, 22.13 Postings that violate the privacy of others, 22.14 Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are not related to ICANN matters. 22.15 The ALAC Chair is empowered to suspend or restrict a person's posting rights when the content that person has posted is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. The Chair defines and determines inappropriate content on a case-by-case basis. Our definitions are not limited to this list. If the Chair suspends posting rights or deletes a comment or link, they will say so and explain why. When determining the duration of the suspension, the Chair is required to take into account the overall nature of the postings by an individual and whether particular postings are an aberration or typical. 22.16 Occasionally, a participant may engage in what amounts to a "denial-of-service" attack to disrupt the consensus-driven process. Typically, these attacks are made by repeatedly posting messages that are off-topic, inflammatory, or otherwise counter-productive, and the Chair may choose to revoke the participant's posting rights. In contrast, good faith disagreement is a healthy part of the consensus-driven process. For example, if the group is unable to reach consensus, this is an acceptable, albeit unfortunate, outcome; however, if that group fails to achieve consensus because it is being continuously disrupted, then the disruption constitutes an abuse of the consensus-driven process. Interactions of this type are fundamentally different from "the lone voice of dissent" in which a participant expresses a view that is discussed but does not achieve consensus. In other words, individual bad faith should not trump community goodwill.

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Briefing Session of the Draft Operating Plan and Budget 08/09
by Matthias Langenegger May 27, 2008

May 27, 2008

Veuillez trouver la version française du message suivant plus bas Por favor véase el mensaje en español abajo All: As you will have noticed, the Draft Operating Plan and Budget for FY 2008/2009 has recently been published for public comment. You can find the details here: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-17may08.htm We would like to provide an opportunity for members of the At-Large Advisory Committee and interested At-Large community members to have a briefing on this in two weeks. Kevin Wilson, ICANN's Chief Financial Officer will give a presentation on the subject and respond to questions from At-Large community members. If his schedule allows it, ICANN's Chief Operating officer Doug Brent will also join this call. If you would like to participate in this briefing session, please follow the link below where you will find a couple of slots to chose from for the week of June 9th. http://www.doodle.ch/9rmqs8sr3mqvbmbg (Please choose your language) Please note that the slot on Tuesday, June 10th would be previously to the monthly ALAC teleconference, which will begin at 1330 UTC. Cher(e)s membres, Comme vous l'aurez remarqué, le plan préliminaire d'opération et du budget pour l'exercice financier 2008/2009 a été récemment édité pour les commentaires publics. Vous pouvez trouver les détails ci-après : http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-17may08.htm A cet effet, nous voudrions présenter aux membres du Comité Consultatif At-Large (ALAC) ainsi qu'aux membres intéressés de la Communauté At-Large d'avoir une session d'information dans deux semaines. Monsieur Kevin Wilson, le Directeur Financier de l'ICANN présentera un exposé sur le sujet et répondra aux questions des membres intéressés de la Communauté At-Large. Si son programme le lui permet, Monsieur Doug Brent, le Directeur des Opérations d'ICANN se joindra également à cette conversation téléphonique. Ceux d'entre vous intéressé par cette présentation, veuillez s'il vous plait utiliser le lien ci-dessous qui vous dirigera vers deux ou trois choix proposées pour la semaine du 9 juin. Nous vous enverrons par la suite une invitation électronique. http://www.doodle.ch/9rmqs8sr3mqvbmbg (choissisez votre langue s'il vous plaît) Veuillez noter que le choix du mardi 10 juin précédera la téléconférence mensuelle de l'ALAC, qui commencera à 13.30 UTC. Estimados miembros de At-Large, Como ya ha notado, el plano preparatorio de las operaciones y los presupuestos ha sido publicado para los comentarios públicos. Para ver los detalles siga el siguiente vinculo: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-17may08.htm En este contexto, queremos darles a los miembros del comité de asesores At-Large así como a los miembros interesados de la comunidad At-Large la oportunidad de tener una sesión de información en dos semanas. Señor Kevin Wilson, el director financiero de ICANN ha declarado estar dispuesto a hacer una presentación sobre este asunto y responder a las preguntas de los miembros de la comunidad At-Large. Si su programa se le permite, señor Doug Brent, el director de las operaciones de ICANN participará igualmente a este conversación telefónica. Si le interesa esta presentación, siga por favor el vínculo abajo para encontrar unas opciones para la semana del nueve de Junio. http://www.doodle.ch/9rmqs8sr3mqvbmbg (elige su idioma por favor) Nótase que la opción de martes 10 Junio precederá la teleconferencia mensual del comité de asesores At-Large que empezará a las 1330 UTC. Regards, Cordialment, Cordialmente, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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ALAC Action Requested on Privacy
by Danny Younger May 27, 2008

May 27, 2008

Dear members of the ALAC: As you may be aware, privacy is not an ICANN "Core Value". The word "privacy" does not appear within the bylaws. I am of the view that ICANN would be well served by articulating that it respects privacy. If we ultimately seek to arrive at a consensus on the fundamental issue of protection of personal privacy, we need to have a starting point to stimulate ICANN-wide discussion. Accordingly, I am asking you to drive home this point by petitioning the ICANN Board to amend its core values section in the bylaws so that privacy may come to be acknowledged as a value to be respected. I look forward to your comments. Danny Younger

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Re: [At-Large] [governance] Fall ICANN meeting in Cairo - Rights discussion off the agenda ... ?
by Robert Guerra May 27, 2008

May 27, 2008

John: well - my opinion differs. No need to forward the message, i'll so myself. Correct me if i'm wrong, has anyone @ ALAC mentioned that issues of freedom of expression, censorship and internet freedom ARE of concern to ICANN. All i have heard so far - is that the issue is best dealt with elsewhere, or that it is not "within the scope" or "mission" of ALAC and/or ICANN. regards Robert On 26-May-08, at 6:14 PM, John Levine wrote: >> Representative Edward J. Markey (D-MA) published a public statement >> the other day in which he and other congressional representatives >> seem >> to indicate that ICANN promotes free speech principles. However >> recent >> comments by members of the ICANN at-large advisory committee as well >> as members of ICANN staff seem to indicate that issues of freedom of >> expression, censorship and internet freedom is NOT of concern to >> ICANN. > > Hi, Robert. Any objections if I forward this gross misrepresentation > of the discussion on the ALAC list back to the ALAC? > Begin forwarded message: > From: Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info> > Date: May 13, 2008 8:51:39 AM GMT-04:00 > To: Khaled KOUBAA <khaled.koubaa(a)gmail.com> > Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >, icann-list(a)sorehands.com, aheineman(a)ntia.doc.gov, > mike(a)palage.com, Paul Twomey <twomey(a)icann.org>, carlton.samuels(a)uwimona.edu.jm > , Jeff Neuman <Jeff.Neuman(a)neustar.us>, Beau Brendler <Brenbe(a)consumer.org > >, CWallace(a)cygnacom.com > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Middle East & North Africa Outreach > > Khaled: > > First, thanks for your comments. > > My original email was to assess, if ICANN/At-Large staff had > undertaken any efforts or is planning any such efforts to involve > and engage internet users from the middle east and/or north african > region for the upcoming fall public meeting in Egypt. I am well > aware of the geopolitical issues of the region - indeed they are > complex. However, it is a region with a growing and vibrant online > community of bloggers and internet governance specialists. > > Through my involvement and engagement with Diplo Foundation, Global > Voices, and many other organizations that I advise - I have a great > deal of contact with people in the region who are active on the > internet . They are experts in internet governance, journalists, > bloggers and yes, even user groups. In essence, they are active > internet users that happy to know the fall ICANN meeting will be in > their part of the world and seem to be keen to learn more, be active > in the meeting and share their perspective on key issues that affect > the region such as IDN, Multi-lingual internet, DNS security, etc. > > As you may know, one of the big issues discussed among bloggers and > other users from the region is - of course - internet censorship and > other restrictions imposed by governments such as Tunisia, Egypt, > Syria and others. Reports from the Open Net Initiative, Global > Voices Online and others speak in dire terms about how internet > users are censored, blocked, arrested or worse. > > http://del.icio.us/internetfreedom/egypt > http://del.icio.us/internetfreedom/syria > http://opennet.net/ > http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/ > > As such - a question to ICANN staff and upper management - who do > seem to be cc'd on the message... Can the organization guarantee > that the meeting will have open and unfiltered access to the > internet, and be open to all internet users from the region who > wish to attend. > > > regards > > Robert Guerra >

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Re: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 26, 2008

May 26, 2008

Joly and all, Egypt like most nations in the middle east do not fully or even to a great degree endorse or except within the boundaries of their respective countries, respect democratic "Core Values" as it were, and will not likely do so in my lifetime sparing some great conflagration or near biblical proportions. So Joly, your URL reference comes as no great surprise to me, and should not to those that are globally aware. The question is, should ICANN in it's meeting in Egypt espouse and promote such "Core Values" at the meeting, and is doing so within the scope or ICANN's mission? My answer is yes, but I doubt that ICANN as an organization has the courage or ability politically speaking by which to do so with any real or earnest conviction. Yet I remain hopeful that ICANN will take up the challange anyway... -----Original Message----- >From: WWWhatsup <joly(a)punkcast.com> >Sent: May 24, 2008 11:33 PM >To: at-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet > >Doesn't look too good > >http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/16/egypt-torture-for-bloggers-and… > >At 17:37 2008-05-23, you wrote: >>On 23-May-08, at 5:17 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >> >>> And I have no idea what you are talking about re Egypt. > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > WWWhatsup NYC >http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 25, 2008

May 25, 2008

Jacque and all, I find it completely ironic that Robert, yourself or several others of this ML forum are concerned what so ever about Censorship in Egypt ( and yes censorship in Egypt is very prevalent ) when the ALAC itself practices censorship as does the NARALO. Absolutely extraordinary! >:( -----Original Message----- >From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> >Sent: May 25, 2008 9:04 AM >To: Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info> >Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet > >Personally, I'm OK with 2), and would support ALAC sending a letter to >the Board asking for such assurances, but with regard to 1), I still >ask - raise the issue to whom? What's the specific action you want the >At Large community to take regarding 1)? >Jacqueline >Robert Guerra wrote: >> I'll repeat two specific items that I mentioned in my original message >> to the list on the topic. That being, that I would like to consult the >> at-large community on two specific items: >> >> 1. raise the issue of limitations to freedom of expression and >> censorship that takes place en Egypt, and if the at-large community >> would be interested in raising this - key issue for internet users in >> Egypt . >> >> 2. seek assurances from ICANN that the meeting will be open to all >> internet users that wish to attend the meeting and that the internet >> available at the meeting will be uncensored >> >> >> I await further comments and/or suggestions. >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> On 25-May-08, at 11:25 AM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >> >> >>> Raise the issue where, to whom? >>> Besides cancelling the Cairo meeting, what else is it likely that >>> ICANN can do? Maybe the ITU might be better suited re freedom of >>> access to the telecomms that are necessary to access the Internet, >>> or the UN or Amnesty International re the human rights of people >>> arrested for civil disobedience or protest - not sure who else >>> works with political prisoners etc. But I'm pretty sure it isn't in >>> the ICANN (or the ALAC) mandate. >>> If ALAC wanted to, as a group of 100 groups, sign a petition, I'd >>> probably back that, but it might be difficult to get all the ALSes >>> to sign, and other than that, I can't see anything else to do - if >>> you have any suggestions, be glad to hear them. >>> Jacqueline >>> Robert Guerra wrote: >>> >>>> Glad you mentioned a reference to global voices. In fact, i >>>> mentioned them earlier . Suffice it to say, that I would hope that >>>> at-large can proactively raise the issue. If it doesn't, likely >>>> there will be others who do... >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> On 25-May-08, at 2:33 AM, WWWhatsup wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Doesn't look too good >>>>> >>>>> http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/16/egypt-torture-for-bloggers-and… >>>>> >>>>> At 17:37 2008-05-23, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 23-May-08, at 5:17 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> And I have no idea what you are talking about re Egypt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WWWhatsup NYC >>>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ALAC mailing list >>>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> >>>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ALAC mailing list >>>> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> >>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC mailing list >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet (resending)
by Jeffrey A. Williams May 25, 2008

May 25, 2008

Robert and all, Blocking of Domain Names is much different that DNS poisoning. Blocking of domain names as a result of improper DNS configuration of a Domain name is an appropriate approach to protecting ones self or others whom may be on public mailing lists where a subscriber has a improperly configured DNS for their Domain name. So your statement below is technically misleading and therefore confused accordingly. As such for YOU to inform any unwitting user of anyting along these particular areas of interest and concern would be ill advised it would seem. Therefore our members whom reside in Egypt and the region will very soon be enguaged in insuring that those interested users are aware of such and are not taken in by such improper and far less than accurate technical information that you or the ALAC may, but hopefully will not endorse from you in particular. -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Guerra <lists(a)privaterra.info> >Sent: May 25, 2008 1:39 PM >To: John Levine <johnl(a)iecc.com> >Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet (resending) > >John: > >One of the technical measures used in the the region to implement >censorship of websites - is via blocking and/or poisoning the DNS. >Thus, the discussion is - i believe - is inside ICANN's scope. > >Furthermore, I have also called for outreach efforts that can be >planned well ahead of the fall meeting to inform internet users about >ICANN, and see they can participate in our discussions. That too, i >believe is well inside ALAC's scope and mission > > >regards > >Robert > > > >On 25-May-08, at 4:22 PM, John Levine wrote: > >>> 4a. The role of the At-Large Advisory Committee ("ALAC") shall be to >>> consider and provide advice on the activities of ICANN, insofar as >>> they relate to the interests of individual Internet users. >>> >>> - Individual internet users in Egypt are active online (see refs >>> below). >> >> Individual Internet users do all sorts of stuff. By this logic, we >> should be lobbying in favor of clean drinking water and sanitary >> sewers, too. There are all sorts of things that are virtuous and >> important, but outside ICANN's scope. >> >> ICANN's remit is really quite narrow: DNS, IP allocation, and minor >> IANA registry management. It makes sense to do what we can to >> encourage and enable individuals from north Africa and west Asia to >> participate at the meeting, but beyond that, we're off in the weeds. >> >> R's, >> John > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC mailing list >ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Board agenda for May 29
by Wendy Seltzer May 25, 2008

May 25, 2008

Below is the agenda for the Board's May meeting. Assuming there's power this time, I will be on the call. Please let me know if there are items on which ALAC or members would like views expressed. Can you please help me to understand before then the final status of the ALAC's participation in the triangle GNSO proposal? Was there ALAC ratification? Does ALAC have views it would like advanced in the discussion of GNSO improvements? Thanks, --Wendy 29 May 2008 Special Meeting of the ICANN Board of Directors Proposed Agenda 1) Approval of the 30 April 2008 Board Minutes 2) President's Report 3) ICANN Meetings Reform Discussion 4) ICANN Paris Meeting Discussion 5) Finance Committee's Update: ICANN Budget and other matters 6) New Board Committee's Discussion 7) Board Governance Committee's Acceptance of Proposal for Formation of Review Working Groups for RSSAC 8) Discussion on Board Review, including discussion of selection of independent third-party board review consultant 9) Update Discussion on New gTLDs 10) GNSO Improvements Report and Update on Implementation Efforts 11) WHOIS Policy Information Update 12) Discussion of Board Tools 13) GNSO Proposal on Absentee Voting 13) Review of GNSO's Motion on Domain Name Tasting 15) PIR's Proposed Implementation of DNSSEC in .ORG 16) Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) Negotiations and Process Update 17) Single-Letter Names at the Second Level Information Update 18) Update Discussions on various Bylaws-Mandated Reviews 19) Compensation Committee Report 20) Other Business -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/

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Re: [At-Large] FW: ICANN Multilingualism and Information Usage Survey
by Elisabeth Porteneuve May 24, 2008

May 24, 2008

Dear All, I just answered the Survey, and wanted to make a public comment, but there is no more ANY ICANN place one can write: * Icann Blog http://blog.icann.org/ is for Some-Selected-People only, * Public Comments http://www.icann.org/public_comment/ are Forum-By-Topic, and this survey is not classified as a public comment topic. My apologies I use At Large list - actually I do not know, and could not figure out if I fit here by some rule, or I am just tolerated here. If At Large is not a place I fit in, what is the right place for me ? The place I can meet ICANN's participants from the whole world ? My comment about the Survey is following: when I answer ANY survey, I like to receive an email copy of what I actually wrote. It seems to me as a basic fairness, especially when the Survey states up front that all answers are publics for some people (not only the company making survey). Kind regards, Elisabeth Porteneuve

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ALAC Teleconference 27 May 1330 UTC
by Matthias Langenegger May 24, 2008

May 24, 2008

Dear all, This is to remind you about the upcoming ALAC teleconference on Tuesday, 27 May at 1330 UTC. We received one apology in respect to the email Nick sent out earlier this week so there should be quorum for this call. The meeting will resume the issues that the ALAC was not able to discuss on their last meeting due to time constraints. Please find a meeting agenda and participation instructions on the link below. The meeting will have French and Spanish interpretation. https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?27_may_2008 Best Regards, -- Matthias Langenegger At-Large Coordination Officer Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger

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