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ALAC statement on Domain Tasting
by Alan Greenberg Dec. 2, 2007

Dec. 2, 2007

Earlier this year, the ALAC requested that ICANN develop an Issues Report on Domain Tasting. Although the ICANN Bylaws allow an Advisory Committee to request such reports, this was the first (and so far only) time that a committee had actually done so. The Issues report (http://gnso.icann.org/issues/domain-tasting/gnso-domain-tasting-report-14ju…) was issued in June and sent to the GNSO for further action. The ALAC's request for the Issues Report is at the end of the report. The GNSO charted an ad hoc group to further investigate and propose Terms of Reference for a possible Policy Development Process (PDP). That group's report can be found at http://www.gnso.icann.org/drafts/gnso-domain-tasting-adhoc-outcomes-report-…. At the LA ICANN meeting, the GNSO decided that domain tasting merited further action, and voted to initiate a PDP. Constituency input has been solicited and is due by December 5th. Although not a GNSO constituency, input from the ALAC has been requested as well (a first, I believe). The statements will be combined by ICANN staff, and the result will go back to the GNSO. To the extent that more work may need to be done at that time, working groups will likely be formed. The ALAC meeting on Nov. 20th accepted that we should contribute a statement to the process, but that it did not need to be exhaustive (for reasons of both time and that our actions had initiated the activity). I propose the following statement. Comments and suggestions welcome. ======================= ALAC "Constituency" statement regarding the PDP on Domain Tasting The ALAC is pleased to have been asked to submit a statement regarding the newly launched GNSO Policy Development Process (PDP) on Domain Tasting. Domain tasting is the use of legitimate ICANN-approved processes to register a domain, test if there is any substantial traffic (perhaps because it was recently in use by someone else or is similar to another regularly used domain), and if not, cancel the registration at no net cost to the registrant. The issue of domain tasting has been regularly been discussed since the phenomena began in 2005 - and with good reason. In January 2005, before the practice was common, for .com and .net, there were about 1.7 million domains registered and 0.7 million domains deleted for a net increase of 1.0 million domains. By the end of the month, there were just over 40 million total domains registered. Two years later, at the end of January 2007, the total number of domains had increased by 78% to 72 million domains. However, in January 2007, there were 51 million domains registered and 48 million domains deleted. That is, there was a net increase of 3 million names, but most of the rest were just being "tasted". In the period since January 2007, the practice has grown even more. Although the practice is relatively widely used, the majority of tasting was being done by just three registrars, all of which have the same address, telephone number and formation date. The ALAC initiated the formal investigation of domain tasting by requesting that ICANN develop an Issues Report. This was done with the support of several GNSO constituencies. Ultimately, the Issues Report was delivered to the GNSO and at the ICANN meeting in Los Angeles, the GNSO decided to undertake a PDP with the intent of further understanding the effects of domain tasting and if appropriate, recommend measures to impede domain tasting. The ALAC is not only pleased that the GNSO has taken this action, but is particularly pleased that the action was taken with a 72% vote where only >33% was required to initiate a PDP. This indicated wide GNSO constituency support for the action. Although each constituency may have different reasons for supporting the process, it is nonetheless encouraging that the end target is the same. The GNSO has chosen to solicit constituency statements and most likely will create one or more working groups to further investigate domain tasting. From the ALAC's perspective, our main concerns were raised in the request for the Issues Report and with the possible exception of the reference to Facilitation of Criminal Activity, the positions remain valid. The ALAC advocates any and all actions that will reduce or eliminate domain tasting. It will support the PDP in whatever ways are most productive to better understand the impacts of domain tasting and to ultimately meet this end.

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ALAC statement on Domain Tasting
by Danny Younger Dec. 1, 2007

Dec. 1, 2007

While I appreciate Alan's endeavor to arrive at a Statement, I am dissatisfied with the proposed ALAC Statement on Domain Tasting. The Statement as written does nothing more than report that: (1) ALAC is pleased that someone else will do the real policy-formulating work (2) ALAC has no new concerns (prior concerns have already been cited in an Issues report) (3) as long domain tasting is reduced or eliminated, ALAC has no preference as to how this is accomplished. In my view, such a Statement is not sufficiently helpful. Constituency Statements called for by the GNSO ask for the following: (1) positions to be taken -- as in, do we support the elimination of the add grace period or do we support the imposition of registrar-level transaction fees during the AGP, or do we support something else? (2) an analysis of the degree of support for a policy position by way of a tally of the vote held by the group on the policy choices that were enumerated (3) a listing of all positions held by all parties to the debate (4) A clear statement of how the constituency arrived at its position detailing specific group meetings, teleconferences, or other means of deliberating an issue, and a list of all members who participated or otherwise submitted their views (5) An analysis of how the issue would affect the group, including any financial impact on the group (6) An analysis of the period of time that would likely be necessary to implement the policy. For an example of what a Statement should look like, please see http://www.gtldregistries.org/news/2007/2007-10-04-01.pdf or look at http://www.ncdnhc.org/policydocuments/PDP-Dec05-NCUC-CONST-STMT-JUNE2007.pdf ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

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Fwd: SV: [governance] Innovation
by Robert Guerra Dec. 1, 2007

Dec. 1, 2007

Not sure if all those subscribed to this list are aware of the rather comprehensive discussion taking place on the Internet Governance Mailing list on and about At-Large and ALAC. Well worth a read, as the discussion is far more comprehensive then what has been the case on this list.. If you aren't subscribed to the governance list, i'll share a recent posting by Wolfgang Kleinwächter. Internet Governance list Subscription & Archive details@ http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance regards Robert Begin forwarded message: > From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang <wolfgang.kleinwaechter(a)medienkomm.uni-halle.de > > > Date: December 1, 2007 4:13:04 AM GMT-05:00 > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > Subject: SV: [governance] Innovation > Reply-To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.xn--org,kleinwchter-9kb, Wolfgang <wolfgang.kleinwaechter(a)medienkomm.uni-halle.de > > > > Two comments to two aspects of the discussion: > > Accountability of elected representatives: > > Yes, we had five elected AT Large Directors in 2000. I organized > from Melbourne onwards until 2002 at seven ICANN Meetings the so- > called "Dialogue with At Large Directors" together with Hans Klein. > With the exception of one occasion, we never managed to bring all > five ALM directors into a dialogue with their constituencies. Very > often they had "higher priorities" than talking to their voters > during the one week of an ICANN meeting. Karl came nearly everytime, > Kato (the Asian At Large director from Fujitsu) and Campos (the > Latin America Director from the Bank of Brasil) came frequently. Nii > from Africa as often as he could. But Andy Mueller Maguhn ignored it > widely. And when Andy, who got such an enourmes support in the > elections, ended its mandate as director in 2002 he totaly > disappeared from the scene. He did not undertake any effort to fight > for a improved at large representation with his knowledge as former > ICANN director. Karl did it. Andy did not. Karl voted very often > "against", Andy voted very often "abstain". How can election > guarantee that you get at the end indeed the people who behave in a > responsible way? I know that among all the bad procedures you have > at your disposal, fair, free and transparent elections are the best > you can get. But while elections are important and an empowring > instrument, they do not settle all problems. > > Empowering of Internet Users: > In the reform process ICANN moved from one extreme to another: The > original plan in 1998 was to have nine voting At Large Directors. > After four years in 2002 you got just one non voting AL liaison. The > background for this movement is - as described elswhere - mainly > political. We know this. A big fear and mistrust by some political > (and probably also economic) groups was in favour of an exclusion of > AL to minimize the risk that uncontrollable voices can make their > way to the decisions making process. Within WSIS it was a long way > until governments recognized civil society as a main stakeholder and > accepted multistakeholderism as a principle. During PrepCom1 at WSIS > I in 2002 in Geneva, the doors were closed and CS had no access even > to the Plenary. There were a lot of turbulences in front of the > closed doors in the ICCG in Geneva. One conclusion which was drawn > by CS folks in Geneva was that they have to counter the governmental > argument that CS is just a bunch of "individual noise makers" who > have no mandate from anybody. The result was the start of a process > of self-organisation among CS which procuded the CS Plenary, the CS > Bureau, the CS Content & Themes and about 30 caucuses and working > groups. One was the CS Internet Governance Caucus (co-chaired first > by YJ and me after WSIS I by Jeanette and Adam and now by Parminder > and Vittorio). The self organisation of the caucus paved the way for > the recognition by the other stakeholders. The IGC became a > respected partner in the process, was asked to nominate members for > the WGIG and published reasonable statements. It had been the IGC- > WGIG members which became a driving force in the WGIG process > itself, which paved the way for the Tunis Agenda. In fact, two > milestones of WGIG were initiatited and drafted by CS people: the IG > definition and the proposal for an Internet Governance Forum. > > Can be lessons learned for ICANN? Yes. > 1. do your homework in pushing foreward the self-organization > process using the existing structures for innovative actions > 2. pratice what you preach with regard to bottom up, > 3. draft understandable and rational language with substantial > proposals > 4. make concrete contributions in the acting bodies. > One outcome from the ALAC review process could be to change the > Advisory Committee status into a supporting organisation status > which would than allow an ALSO to send two voting directors to the > Board. > > Wolfgang > > ________________________________ > > Fra: Jacqueline A. Morris [mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com] > Sendt: fr 30-11-2007 16:12 > Til: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > Emne: RE: [governance] Innovation > > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Karl Auerbach [mailto:karl@cavebear.com] >> >> It is good to hear that people are getting interested. >> >> Was it you who mentioned previously that you thought that the >> Director >> elected for LA in year 2000 did not fully represent the Caribbean >> area? > > Yes, it was. And I note that yet again you write LA, not LAC. So - > if as you > say, the Director was elected for LA - not LAC, obviously they didn't > represent the Caribbean at ALL, as there isn't even the single > letter that > includes us in the regional name. > >> Do you think that the ALAC - a channel in which your regions views >> are >> filtered and then filtered and then filtered again - is as good as >> having a Director you can chose and elect? > > > I disagree with the premise - I don't think that the views are " > filtered > and then filtered and then filtered again". And honestly, once one > elects a > Director, until the next election, there's no accountability - or > that's > what I am accustomed to here. The elected person or persons can > choose to > put forward the regional views or their personal ones, as they want. > At the > end, they can be voted out, but the next person will do exactly the > same > thing. In the current case, all the views are going forward, without > filtration. > >> Back here in the US there was a thing known as a "company union" - >> see >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_union > > OK... I don't see the analogy, but ... > >> If you were drowning, as internet users are, in a sea of >> powerlessness, >> and if given a choice between the ALAC, and its nearly vacuous >> ability >> to hold ICANN to account, and real elections for real identifiable >> people - including themselves if they chose to run, don't you think >> that many, perhaps most would chose elections? > > Yet again, I disagree with the base concept here. I think that > Internet > users in the Caribbean are drowning in a sea of lack of information, > lack of > infrastructure, lack of affordable technology; not powerlessness > that can be > fixed with a vote. We need information, outreach, we need to know and > understand what the issues are. Then we can determine what we think > about > those issues and then we can say- this is what we want/need. An > election > system won't do that IMO. NGOs and information campaigns and > technology > transfer and training programs will. And the ALSes can work on that, > and > they can get support from ICANN and other organizations to do that. > > Honestly, I think that you are coming from a place that is so > different to > the reality here that it's almost impossible to relate. > > Jacqueline > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.10/1160 - Release Date: > 11/29/2007 > 20:32 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance

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Re: [At-Large] I'm inviting you into the "At-Large GNSO Liaison" workspace
by Wendy Seltzer Dec. 1, 2007

Dec. 1, 2007

Why are we creating a new workspace here, rather than using space within the overall ALAC wiki? I don't think this fragmentation helps us or our public keep track of activities. Thanks, --Wendy Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > Hi, > > I'm inviting you to join At-Large GNSO Liaison, one of our shared workspaces. Sign in using the information below: > > web address: https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/ > username: > > > > Because you already have a Socialtext Appliance account, the password is the same as the password you use for your other Socialtext Appliance workspaces. > If you don't remember it, follow this link to select a new password: > https://st.icann.org/nlw/forgot_password.html > > > You may want to keep this email for future reference. > > Thanks, > > Nick Ashton-Hart > -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/

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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Digest, Vol 11, Issue 54
by Bill Silverstein Nov. 30, 2007

Nov. 30, 2007

> > It's a trademark suit, but among the allegations is that they used tasting > and kiting (repeated 4.999 day registrations) to hide their identity. > I'm kind of surprised that the suit didn't name ICANN as an additional > defendant. I did a short talk on tasting and kiting at MAAWG last month, > and just from the stats that ICANN publishes, I pointed out these > registars for their glaringly abusive behavior, registering millions of > domains and refunding all but a few thousand of them. There's no question > that ICANN knows what they've been doing. I thought about that too. The problem is that ICANN is more a regulatory body than a party. In theory (though it is not done) a registrar can be sanctioned for not following the terms of the contract. Certain people at ICANN believes that the only sanction available is to terminate the registrar's contract, and the problem with that is that it could credit a registerfly situation. I believe that ICANN has the legal ability ability suspend the ability of a registrar to register new domain names -- which may be the big stick needed to get the registrar to clean up its act.

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7.3 earthquake in southern caribbean
by Jacqueline Morris Nov. 29, 2007

Nov. 29, 2007

Just had an earthquake - 7.3 - some structural damage but I'm fine. Don't know about St Lucia - it was the epicenter, I heard Jacqueline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:30:19 -0400 Subject: Re: SocialText Training / Q&A To: Yan Sun <yan.sun(a)icann.org>, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org>, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet(a)icann.org>, John Carmona <jcarmona(a)adigo.com>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au>, Veronica Cretu <VeronicaC(a)diplomacy.edu>, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> Earthquake - 7.3 - some structural damage but I'm fine. Not sure about electricity at home - heading there now. If no electricity and cannot connect will send word, but it seems as if all will be ok St Lucia got hit worse - epicenter was there. Jacqueline On 11/29/07, Yan Sun <yan.sun(a)icann.org> wrote: > Thanks. > > > On 11/29/07 9:15 AM, "Nick Ashton-Hart" <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> wrote: > > > USA: Toll-Free (North America Only): +1 (800) 550-6865 / USA Toll: +1 > (213) > > 233-3193 > > > > (added to page - sorry about that) > > > > > > >

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Dell sues largest domain tasting registrar(s)
by Danny Younger Nov. 29, 2007

Nov. 29, 2007

http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/11/dell-vs-florida-registrars/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

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RBN strikes again, using Chinese-registered domains in US
by Brendler, Beau Nov. 29, 2007

Nov. 29, 2007

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7118452.stm Note the following a few paragraphs down: "While computer security researchers have seen small-scale attempts to subvert search results before now, the sheer scale of this attack dwarfed all others. "This was fairly epic," said Alex Eckelberry, head of Sunbelt Software - one of the firms that uncovered the attack. Mr Eckelberry said tens of thousands of domains were used in the vanguard of the attack. Most domains were Chinese registered, hosted in the US and were only a couple of days old. Websites loaded on these domains were booby-trapped with malicious software that looked for vulnerabilities in copies of Microsoft's Internet Explorer used to browse them." "Whenever a single political movement corners power we find ourselves in the realm of totalitarian kitsch." -- Kundera

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FYI: [ALAC-Internal] IDNC working group representatives from the ALAC
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Nov. 28, 2007

Nov. 28, 2007

A *complete* list (i.e. ALL the Officers, Liaisons (including SSAC, PSC, Appointments, etc., and to .Mobi , etc.,) is currently being finalised by the ALAC for distribution to this list and public posting on our Wiki; but in the interim, Wendy has requested a repost to this list of the following notice of appointments of ALAC representation to the IDNC WG CLO -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Seltzer [mailto:wendy@seltzer.com] Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2007 5:44 AM To: cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] IDNC working group representatives from the ALAC Please re-post this to the public list. Thanks, --Wendy Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote: > Dear Chris, > > Further to your formal invitation to appoint two (2) persons as ALAC > representatives to the cross constituency IDN Working Group, on the 22nd of > November, under the ICANN Board Resolution: > http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-02nov07.htm#_Toc55609363 ); and > under the provisions of the Charter IDNC WG Final documentation; whereas, > According to paragraph C (membership) of the Charter, 2 representatives of > the At Large community can now be nominated. > > The deadline (1200 UTC 27th November) for ALAC commentary or opposition to > the nominees listed below has now past. > > Therefore please be advised that the two ALAC Representatives (and their > preferred email contacts for this topic) to the IDNC, Cross Constituency > Working Group are: > - Cheryl Langdon-Orr (ALAC Chair 200-2008 term langdonorr(a)gmail.com ) > - Hong Xue (continuing ALAC IDN Liaison hongxueipr(a)gmail.com ) > > > We look forward with eager anticipation to the deliberations of this WG > beginning before the end of this year as you indicated in your invitation, > furthering the important issues relating Internet users regarding a > fast-track approach to the implementation of IDN ccTLDs and to positively > contribute to the report from the IDNC WG expected by the ICANN Board at the > meeting in New Delhi in February, 2008. > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > > > ALAC please note: > The Charter for the IDNC is available at: > http://www.ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC-Internal mailing list > ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists. icann.org > > ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac > ALAC Official: http://alac.icann.org > ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org > -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 // office: 617.373.7331 Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC-Internal] Current Nominees / Volunteers List
by Brendler, Beau Nov. 27, 2007

Nov. 27, 2007

Nope, not attacked. But judging from the relatively lukewarm response, and the fact the new ALAC chairman is appointing subcommittees and/or allocating responsibilities within the ALAC to help address the problem I thought a "special advisor" could help solve, I'm inclined to just drop the whole thing, I'm too busy with other work to keep bringing it up and re-explaining it. Having worked with Jonathan directly over the last two years on a couple of things, I have a different perspective of his views, at least pertaining to consumer groups. The term "civil society" seems to me a Euro/academic construct that hasn't much meaning among the people I work with, so I don't know how to address it. FYI, Jonathan indicated interest, but hasn't "accepted" anything, since there's nothing to accept. Please call me if you want to go into further details. -----Original Message----- From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette@wzb.eu] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:47 AM To: Brendler, Beau Cc: Nick Ashton-Hart; Jacqueline Morris Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Current Nominees / Volunteers List Hi, I hope you didn't feel attacked. I had never heard of these special advisor positions before. I assume there were discussions on the internal ALAC list before the RALO people were subscribed to it? I was curious about both, the specific functions of the advisors and, admittedly, a bit about your choices. Jon Zittrain doesn't think much of civil society engagement in ICANN as he has stated again and again. This is why I wondered why he was suggested and also why he accepted this role. best, jeanette Brendler, Beau wrote: > Hi, Jeanette. I've posted more than once on this issue, so I invite > you to call me directly if you have questions. (914) 378-2018 > > -----Original Message----- > From: alac-internal-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > Jeanette Hofmann > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:45 AM > To: Nick Ashton-Hart > Cc: ALAC & Secretariats Internal > Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Current Nominees / Volunteers List > > > Hi, could someone please explain to me what are Special Advisers on > Internet Governance Policy? > Thank you, jeanette > > Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >> Dear All: >> >> Here's the list of nominees and/or volunteers for open working groups >> / >> positions. I've pasted the text below for ease of reading. >> >> I believe this is correct - if I've left anyone out please accept my >> apologies and let me know; we can then submit the list to the public >> list for review? >> >> Note that those who have volunteered for working groups should feel >> free >> to jump in now and join the working group mailing lists and review / >> update the working group pages, all of which can be found >> at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?at_large_policy_working_groups > >> Nominations for Open Liaison Positions and >> >> Volunteers for Working Groups >> >> >> >> 2007/8 >> >> >> /Nominations / Volunteering Notices Received on or before the 20^th >> November 2007 / >> >> >> >> *ALAC Committee Officers* >> >> >> _Rapporteur_ >> >> >> Hawa Diakite (accepted) >> >> >> >> >> *Liaisons* >> >> >> WHOIS >> >> Jose Ovidio Salgueiro >> >> >> GAC >> >> Izumi Aizu (accepted) >> >> >> >> *Working Groups* >> >> >> >> _IDNs_ >> >> >> Thu Hue (member) >> Fatimata Seye Sylla >> Hong Xue (as IDN Liaison) >> Franz Gerbosch >> Sergio Salinas Porto >> >> _WHOIS_ >> >> Claudia Fonseca (Vanda, 18/10) >> >> _Registrant/Registrar Relations_ >> >> Sebastien Ricciardi >> Rudi Vansnick >> >> _IPv4 - IPv6 Migration_ >> >> Patrick Vande Walle >> Izumi Aizu >> Carlos Aguirre >> >> _New GTLDs_ >> >> Nguyen Thu Hue >> >> Gurumurthy Kasinathan >> >> Erick Iriarte Ahon >> >> Sebastien Ricciardi >> >> >> Domain Tasting >> >> Alan Greenberg >> Izumi Aizu >> >> >> *Ad-Hoc Positions* >> >> >> _Special Adviser on Internet Governance Policy_ >> >> Jonathan Zittrain >> Wolfgang Kleinwachter >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Nick Ashton-Hart >> Director, At-Large >> ICANN >> Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 >> USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 >> Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 >> Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 >> email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org <mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> >> Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com <mailto:ashtonhart@hotmail.com> / >> AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com <mailto:nashtonhart@mac.com> / Skype: >> nashtonhart >> Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC-Internal mailing list ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge- > li > sts.icann.org >> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >> ALAC Official: http://alac.icann.org >> ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC-Internal mailing list ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge- > li > sts.icann.org > > ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac > ALAC Official: http://alac.icann.org > ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org > > *** > Scanned *** Scanned

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