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New APRALO Wiki
by Karaitiana Taiuru Sept. 8, 2008

Sept. 8, 2008

Colleagues, I strongly encourage you to visit www.apralo.org to visit the new structure of our Wiki and to read the new information that is there. I am certain that most questions can now be answered from our Wiki. If anyone requires some training on how to update/modify the Wiki, there is a link at the bottom. Lastly, thank you to Frederic who spent his weekend updating the all the RALO Wiki. Regards, Karaitiana Taiuru

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9 September 1300 UTC: Discussion on ICANN Travel Procedures and the ALAC Review
by At-Large Staff Sept. 3, 2008

Sept. 3, 2008

Dear all, You have been invited by the ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr to join a community-wide discussion on the new ICANN travel procedures and the ALAC Review on Tuesday September 9th. The discussion will start at 1300 UTC and is scheduled to for 30 minutes. It will precede the monthly ALAC teleconference scheduled at 1330 UTC. French and Spanish interpretation will be available for this call if requested. Please get in touch with us before Friday, 1200 UTC if you would like to be on either the French or Spanish channel. If you are in a country with a toll free phone number you can use this number and the access codes to join the English, French or Spanish channel. A list of the toll free phone numbers is available on the meeting page for this meeting. https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?09_september_2008 You will also find additional documents with background information on the ICANN travel procedures and the ALAC Review on this page. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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ICANN meeting in Cairo Egypt
by Karaitiana Taiuru Sept. 2, 2008

Sept. 2, 2008

The 33rd ICANN public meeting will be held in Cairo Egypt on November 02-07 2008. Meeting details including Visa, accommodation etc is available at http://cai.icann.org/ . At the moment there is no planned APRALO meeting in Cairo. But if you are are planning on being there could you let me know as we may possibly schedule the monthly APRALO meeting there. Regards, Karaitiana Taiuru

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Updates
by Karaitiana Taiuru Sept. 1, 2008

Sept. 1, 2008

Dear APRALO colleagues, Please find below a number of updates from this past week. Our main web site with the wiki is www.apralo.org . 1. The minutes of the previous meeting have now been uploaded. Available at https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?26_august_2008 or Under the "Meetings and Events" link . 2. To assist with greater participation in monthly phone conferences and to ensure greater transparency and ownership, the Agenda items for the following month will be able to be added to by all members in the wiki under the "Meetings and Events" link. Also via email for those with connectivity issues. Thus resulting in the whole list of Agenda items being available to view by all of our members. Our secretary Pavan from ISOC-HK will then collate the Agenda items one week prior to our meeting. The phone details to dial in will also be in the Meetings page. 3. The APRALO finance working group has been re-established and include John Fung from ISOC-HK, Leslie Allison from PICISOC (Pacific Islands) and myself - New Zealand. If anyone with relevant experience would like to join the working group in my place, please let me know. I would like to publically thank John Fung for his efforts and dedication to the finances working group. I would also like to thank the former members. 4. Details of all working group members and appointments are now easily located under the "APRALO Officers" link at www.apralo.org or directly here https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?apralo_officers . If you are interested in being involved with any of the working groups, please contact me. 5. A brief presentation describing APRALO is now available from https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?resources or under the "Resources". Please feel free to download and use it as you wish. A reminder that our phone conferences are the 4th Tuesday of every month at UTC 05:00. Free dial in numbers are available as is the option to be called out to if you have issues from within your country. Regards, Karaitiana Taiuru APRALO Vice Chairman Karaitiana Taiuru Internet Advocate Ph/txt: +64 21 070 7507 Web: www.taiuru.maori.nz Blog: http://taiuru.maori.nz/blog/ Email: karaitiana(a)taiuru.maori.nz IM: ktaiuru (Skype/MSN/GoogleTalk) Bio: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ktaiuru PO Box 10286 Christchurch, 8145 New Zealand

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PacINET 2008 starting in 45 mn
by Franck Martin Sept. 1, 2008

Sept. 1, 2008

Sorry to be slightly off topic, but this conference may interest you as we are talking about Internet Governance too. We are ready to start on Marratech in 45mn. get Marratech at www.marratech.com then go to https://marratech.webapps.isoc.org:8001/ no login/password needed, just click on ISOC Auditorium We will start 9am CK time GMT-10 Program, etc.. on www.picisoc.org Be there or be square.

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REMINDER: 5 September 1300 UTC: Board Liaison Candidates Presentation
by At-Large Staff Aug. 29, 2008

Aug. 29, 2008

Dear all, We would like to remind about the presentation of the ALAC Board Liaison candidates next Friday 5 September from 1300 UTC until 1400 UTC. Please find participation instructions for this teleconference and a short biography of the candidates on the meeting page: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?board_liaison_candidates_presentation Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org ------ Forwarded Message From: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:56:28 -0700 To: <alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: Wendy Seltzer <wendy(a)seltzer.com>, "Brendler, Beau" <Brenbe(a)consumer.org> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] 5 September 1300 UTC: Board Liaison Candidates Presentation Dear all, We would like to invite you to a conference call with the ALAC Board Liaison candidates. Following a short introduction of the candidates, Wendy Seltzer and Beau Brendler will be available to answer your questions. The conference will be Friday September 5th from 1300 UTC to 1400 UTC . There will be simultaneous interpretation into French and Spanish. Participants are requested to provide their comments or questions in advance, to the extent possible, at the following URL by using the ŒComment¹ button at the top of the page: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?board_liaison_candidates_presentation You may also find participation instructions and the curricula vitae of the candidates on this page. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC-Announce mailing list ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. icann.org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org ------ End of Forwarded Message

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ICANN 发布 2009 财年社群差旅支持程序修订版
by At-Large Staff Aug. 28, 2008

Aug. 28, 2008

ICANN 发布 2009 财年社群差旅支持程序修订版 http://www.icann.org/zh/announcements/announcement-13aug08-zh.htm 2008 年 8 月 13 日社群差旅支持程序的创建工作始于 2007 年下半年，一些社群成员明确要求差旅支持（尽管对此问题的讨论由来已久）。我们已经就社群差旅支持进行了广泛的咨询。首先在新德里召开了研讨会，征集公众意见并发布分析成果。然后，在 6 月份公布了一份草案，这份草案在巴黎举行的预算会议上经过了讨论，并再次通过当面接触、电子邮件和网络三种方式征集了相当广泛的意见。我们对这些第二轮征集到的意见进行了总结和分析。有关此最新摘要，可从以下网址获得： http://forum.icann.org/lists/travel-support-draft/msg00013.html 2009 财年社群差旅支持程序 ( http://www.icann.org/zh/topics/travel-support/revised-procedure-11aug08-zh.h tm) 修订版文件力求接纳来自社群的反馈意见。当然，就这个问题所收到的意见不可能完全一致。不过社群强烈赞同这种观点：程序要形成文件，并具透明性、一致性以及遵从性，同时要接受评审/修订，只有这样才能生效。比较最终程序与巴黎会议上所讨论的草案，其主要修改包括以下几点：确保为 NomCom 提名的顾问提供差旅支持加强申请和会后报告的透明度为支持组织的分配机制赋予一定的灵活性，同时不加重主席的负担本文件力求全面而不冗赘。因此，对诸多具体问题将不予作答。ICANN 员工将通过设立并发布常见问答（常见问题解答文档）来收集问题，同时为整个社群提供一致解答。如有疑问，请将问题发送至与您合作最为密切的 ICANN 工作人员，或发送至：travel-support(a)icann.org. 目前，工作人员将通过开罗会议就首次实施此程序过程中所出现的问题收集反馈意见，并视需要进行说明。另外，工作人员还将利用 6 月份 ICANN 会议进行的公共咨询，于年底对社群差旅支持程序进行全面的评审，而 RSSAC 如果愿意也可以借此机会提出更多建议。 -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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ALAC 向 ICANN 董事会提交的关于 GNSO 理事会构成的声明
by At-Large Staff Aug. 25, 2008

Aug. 25, 2008

ALAC 向 ICANN 董事会提交的关于 GNSO 理事会构成的声明 http://www.atlarge.icann.org/zh-hans/zh/announcements/announcement-14aug08- zh.htm 介绍性说明本声明由一般会员咨询委员会（At-Large Advisory Committee，简称 ALAC）在其 2008 年 8 月 12 日举行的会议上审议通过，并由 ALAC 主席 John Jeffrey 先生于 2008 年 8 月 14 日转交给 ICANN 董事会秘书长。 [介绍结束] 翻译注释本文档的原始版本为英文。如果非英语版本与原始文档有出入，或者在理解上有出入，请以原始文档为准。一般会员咨询委员会谨此就通用名称支持组织 (GNSO) 改进和改革计划中 GNSO 理事会和 GNSO 选区组织的构成向董事会表达以下观点。由于时间紧迫，ALAC 附于《工作组关于 GNSO 理事会重构的报告》后的这一声明由 ALAC 一小部分成员撰写，具体包括我们在工作组中的代表 Alan Greenberg 以及由 Cheryl Langdon-Orr、Sébastien Bachollet、Vanda Scartezini 和 Izumi Aizu 组成的咨询小组。本文档附有声明的原始版本。经过与整个委员会讨论本声明，我们欣喜地宣布，本声明已由整个委员会批准。在 ALAC 之前声明的基础上，委员会认为需要对若干问题进行阐明并作出评论。相互尊重工作组步调高度一致，表现出了统一的立场，这一点难能可贵，也表明了所有成员的决心和灵活性。但是，我们确实遗憾地看到，附在报告中的一些选区组织声明对 ALAC 代表（以及提名委员会成员）作了贬低性的评价。我们愿意承认自己在 ICANN 中的资历不如域名支持组织 (DNSO)/GNSO 的其他成员。但是，我们相信“新成员们”是根据其所代表的机构/团体的需求和愿望诚恳地参与洽谈的，我们觉得，因为资历比较浅以及在有些情况下对 GNSO 应如何演变发展有着不同的观点而对其进行排斥是非常不恰当的。 GNSO 在重构后的演变发展对于 GNSO 在实施新结构后应如何演变发展，我们也与现有的一些选区组织有着不同的观点。如董事会管理委员会 (BGC) 报告中所指出的，组建新选区组织的过程自 GNSO 成立以来就一直写在章程中。但是，可能是由于“自行组建”以及日常管理的沉重负担（实际上或意识上的），这一过程从未付诸实施。采用了新结构后，由于现有的选区组织可能认为自己能代表所有观点因此无需组建新选区组织，这一过程的实施可能更为困难。对于非商业利益主体团体 (NCSG)，这一问题尤其严重。如非商业使用者 (NCUC) 指出的，“非商业互联网用户和注册人对 ICANN（具体来说是 GNSO）管辖范围内事务的具体关注程度，与他们对一般社群和选区组织的关注相比，只占很小的一部分”。对于一般会员来说当然也是如此。大多数一般会员网络结构 (ALS) 在接受 ICANN 管理之前便已存在。它们成为了 ALS，是因为其固有的使命与 ICANN 一般会员的使命存在合理的重合。但 ICANN 不是它们存在的唯一原因，甚至不是主要原因；在有些情况下，ICANN 在它们投入时间应对的机构中排在后面。期望一个团体自行组建并成为新的 GNSO 选区组织，是很高的期望。要实现这一期望，就必须得到若干方面的协助： · ICANN（以及利益主体团体）必须使创建和运行新选区组织的过程尽可能地容易。它们所需满足的要求必须合理，并且一以贯之地执行。 · 这些新的实体必须安心地觉得自己能作为谨慎选定的团体参与政策制定过程 (PDP)，其参与程度与资深成员相当（当然，要考虑到规模），并且不屈从于这些资深成员。没有这一保障，它们就没有理由投入巨大的精力来参与 GNSO 的过程。 · 加入一个级别，使等级结构从“GNSO→选区组织”转变为“GNSO→利益主体团体→选区组织”（或根据共识提案转变为“GNSO→议院→利益主体团体→选区组织”），这一过程必须妥善管理，以最大程度降低进一步的复杂性并减少进一步的自主工作需求。在我们看来，精简的层级结构绝对是必需的。如果在新的非商业利益主体团体中能实现以上几点，那么 BGC 报告第 5.3 节构想的非商业实体新生就可能真地出现。 ALAC 附于《工作组关于 GNSO 理事会重构的报告》后的声明（附于工作组向董事会提交的报告后） ALAC 很荣幸能成为这一工作组的成员，对于工作组提议了一个令各方都满意的合理结构尤其感到欣喜。这一成果事先没有任何保障。参与这项工作的各方，包括它们的选区组织和顾问，在工作中表现出了勤恳、灵活、诚恳和坚韧的精神，都应得到赞赏。Rob Hoggarth 在这项工作中的贡献尤其可圈可点。 ALAC 通过根据 ICANN 章程指派到 GNSO 的联络员而参与了这一工作组。不过，整个过程的主要目标是确保估计的 13 亿互联网用户的利益在 gTLD 政策制定过程中能得到某种程度的正式体现。参与这一过程与 ALAC 的职责相当不同（ALAC 的职责包括在事后向董事会提供咨询）。明确地说，ALAC 认为除了行使了自身目前的联络和董事会咨询职责外，没有以任何其他方式参与 gTLD 的政策制定过程。我们也没有看到整个一般会员组织担负了任何正式的职责，自身也没有做这样的主张。 ALAC 乐意与 ICANN 合作，鼓励全球用户群在非商业利益主体团体 (NCSG) 内组建和参与新的非商业用户选区组织，直到在 NCSG 中建立更具代表性的、以用户为导向的结构。我们也乐意在这一利益主体团体的设计、结构开发和实施上发挥不可或缺的作用，直到这些新的选区组织能代表自身利益。在参与工作组工作的整个过程中，我们都支持在 GNSO 中保留提名委员会提名人 (NCA)。也许在未来，当 NCSG 以及某种程度上商业利益主体团体拥有了具广泛代表性的选区组织，可能就不再需要 NCA 了。但是在此之前，这些提名人的存在对于至少部分地抵制代表自身商业利益的大多数评议员来说是必不可少的。对于工作组提案的意见 ALAC 总地支持这项大规模工作的成果，但希望提出以下具体意见： 1. 董事会在决定每个利益主体团体的规模时宜采取极简主义的方式。BGC 报告正确地提议了新的委员会规模应比其前身小。董事会应重点确保每个议院中孤立的 NCA 不受到不合理的压制，或实质性地被剥夺发言权。目前 1 个 NCA 对 6 个选区组织评议员的比率看来是合理的，但有人建议将比例升为 1 比 18！类似地，每个议院中评议员的数量应保持适当平衡，以防势力较大的评议员在讨论中（纯粹以人数）占支配地位。 2. 有一点很麻烦，在提案中，其中一个 NCA 被剥夺了权利。虽然尚未找出各方都能接受的解决方案，但这做法在 ICANN 中树立了一个很不理想的先例。 3. 提案中描述的提名 GNSO 主席的过程难以操作并且充满矛盾。它要求提名委员会确定一名提名人，该提名人必须拥有担任 GNSO 主席的能力和意愿。此人还可能需要相当熟悉 GNSO，从而能马上理解其各项过程和限制。但结果可能是这个人不担任主席，而担任无表决权的委员会成员。作为提名委员向 GNSO 理事会提名的人选，此人需符合的特点中经常被提到的是他/她必须来自 ICANN 外部，并且从未与 GNSO 选区组织有关联。提名委员会如何能通过一个提名人来满足这所有要求，这一点相当模糊。或者，最终可能发现许多人自荐担任这一职位。 4. 到目前为止，过渡过程尚未引起重视；这一新的委员会能否在详细的政策和规范制定之前运行，这一点也尚未得到重视。 5. 我们认为，董事会的每项选举中未能纳入所有评议员（包括所有 NCA，可以为表决设置一定程度的权重以防表决人数不平衡），这一点非常遗憾。 6. 关于 GNSO 理事会或议院通过表决罢免一名 NCA，董事会宜修订章程，要求如果董事会需批准一项有理由的罢免，就同时需要提名一名替代的 NCA 并任职到未来提名委员会确定的时间。 -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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[Reminder] APRALO Teleconference @ Tue 26 Aug 05:00 – 06:00 ()
by Google Calendar Aug. 25, 2008

Aug. 25, 2008

apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, this is a reminder for Title: APRALO Teleconference Time: Tue 26 Aug 05:00 – 06:00 (Time zone: GMT (no daylight saving)) Where: Teleconference - Adigo Calendar: Description: 0500 UTC Start. Full agenda and participation details can be found on the meeting page: https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?meetings_and_events You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=azkwbDI0c3M0djR0N3VqbG… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively, you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Re: [APAC-Discuss] Agenda Posted
by Hong Xue Aug. 25, 2008

Aug. 25, 2008

The wiki is at https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?26_august_2008 Adam's suggestion is quite sensible. The deep link is not easy to be found. I'm now having extremely limited connection and cannot login to edit. One additional item that has been discussed several times is "reviewing the quorum of the monthly calls in the operational principles" Hong On 8/22/08, Adam Peake <ajp(a)glocom.ac.jp> wrote: > Dear Pavan, > > Could you give the URL for the page with the draft agenda. Wiki's are > useful, but I think basic information should be sent in email. With > title, data and time of the meeting in the Subject line. > > Many thanks, > > Adam > > > At 5:33 PM +0800 8/21/08, Pavan Budhrani wrote: >>Dear All, >> >>The Agenda has been posted on the Wiki, if you would like to make changes >> or >>comments, feel free to do so. Thanks >> >> >>Pavan Budhrani >>Communications Manager, >>DotAsia Organisation >>_______________________________________________ >>APAC-Discuss mailing list >>APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… >> >>Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > APAC-Discuss mailing list > APAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org >

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