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Re: [At-Large] ALAC Statement for the ICANN Board Request for Responses]
by Siavash Shahshahani Oct. 11, 2007

Oct. 11, 2007

Hi Danny, Annette I'm in complete agreement with you on the fact that IDN gTLDs now have a jump. And it is exactly for this reason that I've been pushing for 'fast-track' both at APTLD and as ALAC's liaison to ccNSO. On the other hand I don't think GNSO or gTLD operators are to blame for this state of affairs. If the work for a regular IDN ccPDP started right now, it'll another 2 1/2 to 7 years before anything comes out(Cf. ccNSO estimate). Further, any comprehensive effort in this direction will undoubtedly rekindle old GAC-ccOperator disputes on delegation issues; that's why many cc operators in countries not affected by IDNs have been at best apathetic toward IDN cc's and policy work has been delayed. I think our best bet at this time is to: 1. Support a fast-track initiative for those territories that really want IDN cc's and are not subject to local community conflicts on the issue. 2. Work hard to make sure that the next round of ICANN gTLD selections (that may include IDNs) do not discriminate against small operators from less developed countries. It is important that this issue be emphasized at the Oct 29 meeting in LA. Regarding the standards body for territorial scripts, the problem is that no such body has yet been identified or universally recognized. I'm sure ISO will not adopt a list that may include minority languages out of 'official' favor by a member government. Siavash > Hello Siavash, > > ICANN can act based on what it considers to be > "reasonable cause". One example of reasonable cause > cited in the bylaws is "the promotion of effective > competition". > > Competition is not "effective" if one set of players > can obtain a market advantage by having their class of > TLDs launched before another set of players is ready. > > In the IDN world, do we really want to see an > advantage given to either IDN gTLDs or to the IDN > ccTLDs by having one of these groups launched before > the other? > > While everyone recognizes the need to move forward and > expeditiously with the implementation of IDNs, > shouldn't we be considering the implications of > "unfair advantage" on the marketplace? > > The current schedule for the release of new gTLDs > seems to be in advance of the scheduled release of new > ccTLDs (even if a fast-track IDN ccTLD approach is > adopted). Doesn't that concern you? > > Personally, I think that slowing down the > implementation of IDN gTLDs is indeed possible (if we > choose to respect the principle of competition based > on a level playing field). > > With regard to the issue of an ISO list, just as RFC > 1591 states: "The IANA is not in the business of > deciding what is and what is not a country", so too > should we be asserting: > > "The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is > and what is not a country's set of territorial > scripts" -- this truly should be a matter for a > standards body to determine through its processes. I > remain of the view that ICANN, in its role as > technical manager of the DNS, should only act when > such a list is properly compiled. > > regards, > Danny > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > ------------------------------------------------- IPM/IRNIC P.O.Box 19395-5564, Shahid Bahonar Sq. Tehran 19548, Iran Phone: (+98 21) 22 82 80 80; 22 82 80 81, ext 113 Cell: (+98 912)104 2501 Fax: (+98 21) 22 29 57 00 Email: shahshah(a)irnic.ir, shahshah(a)nic.ir ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- IPM/IRNIC P.O.Box 19395-5564, Shahid Bahonar Sq. Tehran 19548, Iran Phone: (+98 21) 22 82 80 80; 22 82 80 81, ext 113 Cell: (+98 912)104 2501 Fax: (+98 21) 22 29 57 00 Email: shahshah(a)irnic.ir, shahshah(a)nic.ir -----------------------------------------------

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New Delhi will host the 31st ICANN Meeting, 10-15 February 2008
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 11, 2007

Oct. 11, 2007

http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09oct07.htm New Delhi, India will host the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers' 31st International Public Meeting from 10-15 February 2008. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Nomination for Vice-Chair
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 11, 2007

Oct. 11, 2007

I nominate Robert Guerra for position of ALAC Vice-Chair. Alan

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Agenda Drafts for LA At-Large Meetings
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

Dear All: As requested on the teleconference today, I have tried to create room in the various meeting slots for all the items for which discussion time was requested. I have also provided draft budgets incorporating the three main themes of work discussed on the last Secretariats teleconference for those meetings, and provided on the Thursday afternoon joint ALAC/Secretariats meeting with time for the ALAC to be acquainted with the results of the Secretariats' work on these subjects as well as time for that work to be synthesised with the work ALAC is doing on the same subjects - especially in the forward- looking planning for the community for the coming year. I am certain that there are missing things (I have to go look at some emails provided by various of you during the budgeting discussions) however, what I hope I have done is broken the work down in such a way that the agendas are not too extensive for the amount of time of the meetings. As always - these are on Wikis - Members should feel free to propose/ add/delete as they see fit. This is hopefully a good starting place though. Again the one-stop-shop page is: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi? 30_october_2007 -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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ccNSO liaison report
by Siavash Shahshahani Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

Dear All, The following is my report based on the recent telephone session. There will be another telephone conference before LA Meeting which I will also report on. That will be my last report as I'm not a candidate for the liaison position after my ALAC term is up at the end of LA Meeting. Here are the main points: 1. Work got underway for the Issues Report to start a PDP for cc IDNs. 2. A letter was sent out by ccNSO Chair to ccTLD managers to get an estimate of interest and preparation in starting a fast-track approach for starting a limited number of IDN cc's. Presumably a simultaneous letter went out from GAC Chair to GAC reps for the same purpose. 3.The charter of a WG was established with the ultimate goal of attracting more ccTLDs to ccNSO membership. In the first phase some research will be done. 4. A ccTLD Comunity List will be started soon. 5. A replacement is sought in North America region for Bernie Turcott of Canada who resigned ccNSO. More after the next conference call. Siavash ------------------------------------------------- IPM/IRNIC P.O.Box 19395-5564, Shahid Bahonar Sq. Tehran 19548, Iran Phone: (+98 21) 22 82 80 80; 22 82 80 81, ext 113 Cell: (+98 912)104 2501 Fax: (+98 21) 22 29 57 00 Email: shahshah(a)irnic.ir, shahshah(a)nic.ir -----------------------------------------------

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Schedule Posted for ICANN’s 30th International Public Meeting
by Robert Guerra Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues: Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed. That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place. In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all. regards Robert -- Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles. “We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table,” said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. “The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN – it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf’s term as chair, will welcome ICANN’s new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names.” “On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting’s tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair,” Levins added. The meeting, which also serves as ICANN’s 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport. “If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved,” Levins added. “We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free.” To learn more about the meeting go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org. To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.

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LA agenda SC issues
by Annette Muehlberg Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

Dear Robert, Veronica, Didier, in our ALAC tel conf today we discussed that the LA agenda subcommittee should take care of the following issues: - Find a time slot to discuss the budget and invite Doug Brent - Find a time slot to discuss the At-Large Summit - Find a time slot (or time slots) to discuss and publicly present Policy issues as there are: 1. New gTLDS 2. IDNs: ALAC Statement for the ICANN Board Request for Responses (Hong pointed out that we have to deal with this issue until tuesday!) 3. RAA Review 4. WHOIS Service 5. IPv4 - IPv6 Migration additional: 6. Domain Tasting All ALAC meetings should be announced with a precise agenda (Nick volunteered to put a first draft together today) best greetings to all of you Annette

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Re: [At-Large] APRALO Budget
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

I think you have just proposed it ;) Honestly I'm entirely happy to propose a regionalised budget internally for the year beginning July 2008. We would just want to be careful that in doing so, all regions are treated equally resource-wise. As to participation, yes of course, I believe that it is not possible to have too much participation, and the broader-based that participation is, the better! I am in the (unfortunately rather protracted) process of acquiring two new members of staff, one for coordination and support, and the other dedicated to helping build the capacities of the RALOs. Until then, I'm the only one here, so having a more aggressive recruitment strategy has been impossible, but it would be very helpful if the community could work on such a strategy, so when the new people are brought onboard they would be able to help to implement it. On 9 Oct 2007, at 07:33, Guru@ITfC wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Would it be part of ALAC interests/mandate to get more and more of > the 'users' from different regions get more involved in its work / > engaging with ICANN. On these lines, should we be putting in some > effort to getting more participants from less represented regions > of the world (relative to potential participation, even if not > relative to other regions). > > in which case, making region wise allocations would be more useful, > as you have also suggested. can we ask ICANN to start budgeting in > this manner from this year. how can one go about proposing such an > idea? > > thanks > Guru > _____________ > Gurumurthy K > IT for Change, Bangalore > Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities > www.ITforChange.net > From: alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac- > bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:45 PM > To: nirmol xxxx > Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss; RAJNESH D. SINGH; At-Large Worldwide > Subject: Re: [At-Large] APRALO Budget > > Nirmol: > > Firstly, please be careful about sending emails to multiple lists. > Your reply went to the global list, the ALAC committee (who are on > the global list) and also to AP... Crossposting (and especially > duplicate posting) is something that bothers many... > > With respect to the funding which ICANN provides for At-Large > activities, the budget for that is drawn up by the staff of ICANN. > We do want and ask for the input of the regions, and the ALAC, on > what projects and activities should be priorities for the region > and if there is any financial component and it is possible to > quantify that, this is of course helpful. If regions or the ALAC > wish to have budgets and get funding from other sources, that would > of course be entirely up to the region. > > There is no budget for a specific region; ICANN doesn't budget in > this way. We could, and it may make sense to do that going forward, > but that hasn't been the case in the past. > > The largest portion of the At-Large budget is for the travel > support provided to the community to attend ICANN meetings. This is > sufficient to support 35 people from the community attending each > ICANN International Meeting. This is made up of the ALAC (15) and > the ALS representatives from the region which the given meeting is > in make up the rest. If there are some meetings where less than 35 > people attend, then this funding goes to a meeting where there are > more people, or to other projects which the community proposes > during the year - that sort of thing. > > As to timelines, regions and the ALAC are all free to propose ideas > through December, really; I have to get serious about preparing a > first draft in January. That said, having a set of priorities for > work over the course of the coming year would be most helpful, and > since the ALAC and the regional Secretariats are meeting in LA to > do (amongst other things) just that, perhaps post-LA would be the > most logical time to begin crafting a plan of activities that > supports the macro-level strategy. > > Of course, the suggestion box is always open. I would much rather > put together a budget draft that's heavily informed by the > community's plans and strategy for action than to make one up on my > own. > > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart > Director, At-Large > ICANN > Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 > USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 > Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 > Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 > email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org > Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / > Skype: nashtonhart > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > > > > On 8 Oct 2007, at 15:01, nirmol xxxx wrote: > >> Hi Raj, >> I havent heard on this myself except that I am a part of the >> Budget-WG. >> In this regard I request all members to send their views on items >> they intend us to consider in formulating the next Budget. >> Raj, please let me know who will be financing the budget or do we >> have to undertake a study on sources of funding as well? I >> understand that so far ICANN was funding the activities. >> Please also let us know the time line for the preparation of Budget. >> Nick, can you forward me the last budget and guidelines, if any, >> with respect to the same prepared by ICANN or APRALO so far. >> We understand that the Budget is for the FY 2008-2009. >> John, please feel free to contact me on the above email to work on >> this further. >> Regards, >> Nirmol >> >> >> "Rajnesh D. Singh" <rajnesh(a)pacificit.org> wrote: >> Hi John/Nirmol, >> >> Cheryl advised at the last teleconference that the ALAC budget >> process >> is underway (or will be very soon). >> >> We need to get the APRALO submission finalised. Please let us know >> status of your WG's work thus far, and what we need to do to get this >> finalised. >> >> Just to revisit, APRALO will meet at: >> (i) ICANN February 2008 meeting (likely to be in Delhi) >> (ii) IGF 2008 (Delhi in November) >> >> Additionally, we need to consider presence at: >> (i) APNG camp >> (ii) APTLD meeting >> (iii) APNIC meeting >> >> We also need to look at support for: >> (i) APNG Camp 2008 >> >> >> If anyone has suggestions for further meeting/event support, >> please advise. >> >> -- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Rajnesh D. Singh >> >> COO, PATARA www.patarapacific.com >> Chair, ICANN Asia Pacific Regional At-Large Organisation >> www.apralo.org >> Chairman, Pacific Islands Chapter, Internet Society www.picisoc.org >> President, IPv6 Forum Pacific Islands www.ipv6forumpacific.org >> Director, Pacific Internet Technology Centre www.pacificit.org >> >> 310 Princes Road Tamavua Suva Fiji >> Tel: +679 332 0606 Fax: +679 332 0800 >> >> Read my ramblings at http://singh-a-blog.blogspot.com/ >> >> >

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IDN Introduction Video - multilingual - online now
by Nick Ashton-Hart Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

Dear At-Large members: In case you have not already seen it, ICANN has produced a short video about IDNs, with subtitles in several languages. You can choose the language of your choice and view the video at: http://dotsub.com/films/idnspart/index.php We hope it is useful - and of course, welcome any comments you may have - including on the quality of the translations :) -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Board liaison report
by Vittorio Bertola Oct. 9, 2007

Oct. 9, 2007

All, The Board met by teleconference on September 11. A detailed report is available at http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-11sep07.htm . The main decisions at the meeting were: - draft terms of reference for the Board review were put up for public comment; - Hagen Hultzsch, former Board member from Germany, was appointed as new Nomcom Chair for 2008; the Board also confirmed Mr. Ribeiro Filho from Brazil as Nomcom representative for academic institutions; - Delhi was chosen as host for the ICANN meeting in February 2008, while Dubai was recommended for a regional meeting in 2008; - .kp (North Korea) was delegated; - .me and .rs (Montenegro and Serbia) were delegated, on the basis that .yu should be discontinued in a reasonable period of time; - there was some discussion on some gTLD contracts, particularly .aero and .post, which present some open issues; - there was some discussion on Whois, where staff reported that support for OPOC is vanishing and the GNSO policy process is likely to end up in nothing. Discussion on the Board list, apart from general chat, was mostly focused on the issue of succession to Vint. The matter was deferred to a special meeting held on October 4 in Frankfurt, including the new Board members for 2008, in which the new Chairman was to be picked, even if informally. Wendy attended that meeting for the ALAC, so she will supplement this report with hers. Regards, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------

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