December 2008 - At-Large - lists.icann.org

The ALAC Voting Process
by Danny Younger Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

Cheryl, We have now had two consecutive ALAC Monthly Meetings in which a vote was introduced at the very last moment without the benefit of prior substantive on-line discussion, with the motions being drafted on the fly (specific motion language not being fully ready or well-articulated or available sufficiently in advance of the session). The ALAC voting process is not up to expected standards. You have Rules in place, but you are not following your own rules: ALAC-Rules of procedure (July4, 07) Rule 16 - Resolutions and Amendments 1. Draft resolutions and amendments may be proposed by the participants referred to in Rule 1 and shall be transmitted in writing to the Chairperson, which shall circulate copies to all participants. 2. Motions need to be seconded by another delegate. As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment shall be discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated sufficiently in advance to all participants. If you truly want individual user participation, then please allow the local ALSs and the Regionals to consider the propositions being voted upon by their representatives (elected and unelected) sufficiently in advance of the Monthly meeting.

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Re: [At-Large] Outrageous -- even more so.
by Bill Silverstein Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

** Reply to note from Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:52:49 -0800 (PST) > > Today ICANN put up a notice indicating that it will hold community discussions in Washington DC > and Marina del Rey on the "Revisiting Vertical Separation of Registries and Registrars" report. > > When are these meetings? In 2 days in Washington, DC and one week later in California. > > Thanks to ICANN for the heads up. I'm sure that everyone in the non-contracted-parties world will > be able to drop whatever they are doing and rush to these events. Of course, no remote > participation is offered. > > The notice is here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-09dec08-en.htm It gets better. When I rsvp'd this is what I got back: "At this time detailed information is not available for the meeting scheduled on Friday, December 19, 2008 from 10:00 - 13:00 PST/18:00 - 21:00 UTC; we will notify you when the meeting logistics are finalized." So, where is the meeting??? ------------------------------------------------------ Who is General Error and why is he reading my drive?

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Outrageous
by Danny Younger Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

Today ICANN put up a notice indicating that it will hold community discussions in Washington DC and Marina del Rey on the "Revisiting Vertical Separation of Registries and Registrars" report. When are these meetings? In 2 days in Washington, DC and one week later in California. Thanks to ICANN for the heads up. I'm sure that everyone in the non-contracted-parties world will be able to drop whatever they are doing and rush to these events. Of course, no remote participation is offered. The notice is here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-09dec08-en.htm

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Local police takes over domains from foreign countries
by Lutz Donnerhacke Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

Hi, I just noticed a somewhat strange action of our local police department. The seemed to issue an order against a local registrar to change the domain owner located in a different country. Please note, that there is no court order. IMHO the police officer prefered to take over the domain instead of taking the domain down or (best case) requesting international administrative assistance. I might be wrong. My question is: Does the ICANN allow registrars to change the holder instead of setting the domain on "hold" in such a situation? Situation from 2008-11-30 (http://www.whois.de/currentWhois/view/bet3000.com) Domain Name:bet3000.com Created On:2003-06-02 15:18:55 Last Updated On:2008-06-03 03:32:10 Expiration Date:2009-06-02 15:18:55 Status:ok Registrant-ID:IBAL1-EPNIC Registrant-Name:International Betting Association Limited Registrant-Street:4 College Lane Registrant-City:Gibraltar Registrant-Postal-Code:4 College Registrant-Country:GI Registrant-Phone:+350.20052577 Registrant-FAX:+350.20052782 Registrant-Email:info@iba.gi Situation today (current whois) Domain Name:bet3000.com Created On:2003-06-02 15:18:55 Last Updated On:2008-12-02 10:32:26 Expiration Date:2010-12-01 04:59:59 Status:registrarHold Registrant-ID:BD512-EPNIC Registrant-Name:Juergen Buessow Registrant-Organisation:Bezirksregierung Duesseldorf Registrant-Street:Cecilienallee 2 Registrant-City:Duesseldorf Registrant-Postal-Code:40474 Registrant-Country:DE Registrant-Phone:+49.2114750 Registrant-Email:poststelle@brd.nrw.de

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Outrageous
by Danny Younger Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

Just received this note from Paul Levins: Danny Thanks fro your call just now. I agree the notice was very short and I apologize for the short notice. Remote participation will be provided. If you RSVP there will be numbers sent to you and you will be able to participate that way. I am arranging for another notice to go out making it clear that there is remote particiaption Paul

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Re: [At-Large] Outrageous
by jsalgueiro＠cantv.net Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

That´s ICANNs style of doing things, we should not be surprised by this Jose Original Message: ----------------- From: Bret Fausett bfausett(a)internet.law.pro Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:23:19 -0500 (EST) To: at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Outrageous I had a similar reaction. I wrote to ICANN privately and asked if they would postpone these until January to allow more notice and greater participation. I would very much like to attend one of these consultations, but unfortunately, I have existing engagements in Los Angeles during the DC meeting and on the East Coast during the LA meeting! I would block my schedule for the LA meeting though if I had more notice. -- Bret _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange

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Re: [At-Large] Outrageous
by carlos aguirre Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

And participation possibilities? ------Mensaje original------ De: Danny Younger Para: at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: marilynscade(a)hotmail.com Asunto: [At-Large] Outrageous Enviado: 9 Dic 2008 16:52 Today ICANN put up a notice indicating that it will hold community discussions in Washington DC and Marina del Rey on the "Revisiting Vertical Separation of Registries and Registrars" report. When are these meetings? In 2 days in Washington, DC and one week later in California. Thanks to ICANN for the heads up. I'm sure that everyone in the non-contracted-parties world will be able to drop whatever they are doing and rush to these events. Of course, no remote participation is offered. The notice is here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-09dec08-en.htm <http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-09dec08-en.htm> _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican…> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org> Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry® de Claro Argentina

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Re: [At-Large] Outrageous
by Bret Fausett Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

I had a similar reaction. I wrote to ICANN privately and asked if they would postpone these until January to allow more notice and greater participation. I would very much like to attend one of these consultations, but unfortunately, I have existing engagements in Los Angeles during the DC meeting and on the East Coast during the LA meeting! I would block my schedule for the LA meeting though if I had more notice. -- Bret

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Public Participation Committee of the Board
by Danny Younger Dec. 8, 2008

Dec. 8, 2008

Wendy, 1. Any chance that you could arrange a briefing for us on the planned activities of the Board's Public Participation Committee? Was the Committee created to assist the Public Participation Manager, or for some other purpose? 2. Do you expect the Board to similarly launch a Public Representation Committee? 3. Any updates from the Board Privacy Committee? best regards, Danny

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Re: [At-Large] [ALAC-Announce] REMINDER: ALAC Teleconference 09 December 1230 UTC
by Patrick Vande Walle Dec. 6, 2008

Dec. 6, 2008

I also note that the meeting is also one hour longer than previously foreseen, and that the meeting wil be interrupted by an unplanned event. I find it peculiar that the ALAC would on the one hand complain to the board that the public forum in Cairo was interrupted with VIP speeches and on the other hand do exactly the same with ALAC's teleconference. It is already difficult to fit the planned teleconferences in the middle of the business day (European time). It is even more of an annoyance to have last minute changes. Can we have the meeting slots for the upcoming three months and a guarantee that the ALAC will stick to it ? Thanks a lot Patrick At-Large Staff wrote, On 5/12/08 18:35: > Dear all, > > This is to remind you about the next ALAC teleconference scheduled this > coming Tuesday at 1230 UTC. Please note that this is one hour earlier than > during previous months. A draft agenda and further details have been posted > under: > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?09_december_2008 > > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Marie-Hélène Bouchoms > ICANN At-Large Staff > email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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