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Corrected Minutes - Phone call on May the 16, 2017.
by Mirjana Tasić May 24, 2017

May 24, 2017

Dear colleagues, I did not noted that Hazem Hezzah attended the meeting. Thank you, Hazem, for helping me with attendance. Regards Mirjana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Roll call 2. Organization of Repertoire and Variant Group 3. AOB Notes: 1. Roll call: Following GP members were present on the call: Bill Jouris Dennis Tan Fiammetta Caccavale Hazem Hezzah Michael Bauland Nebiye Petek Kurtböke Sarmad Hussain Dennis Tan Meikal Mumin Mats Dufberg Mirjana Tasić 1. Organization of Repertoire and Variant Group After some discussion Variant and Repertoire group were organized: Repertoire group members: * Nebiye Petek Kurtböke(chair) * Ahmed * Fiammetta * Hazem * Meikal * Mats * Mirjana * Ousmane * Tran Canh * Violet Variant group members: * Bill * Denis * Michael * Meikal One week the Group call will be organized, and the other week will be the Panel call. Sarmad will issue doodle poll in order to decide the dates and time for phone calls of the Repertoire group. Also, Panel phone call schedule should be adjusted if necessary. Variant group will agree on their calls schedule by themselves. Variant group will also decide who will lead the group. 1. AOB Sarmad and Mirjana will try to provide draft agenda for Istanbul face to face meeting. [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp

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Preliminary list of Languages using Latin script with EGIDS=1-4
by Mirjana Tasić May 24, 2017

May 24, 2017

Dear GP members Here we have two links: 1. Preliminary list of Languages using Latin script sorted by EGIDS (only 1-4) and then by ISO 639-3 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBb7wsy_hjBex6JXSIeJNOeK1KMIjU70pQRqLFR… I have granted access to this table for all GP members 2. Procedure which has been used in measuring the time necessary for processing all letters for one language https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRYCtrgYqcK1USIE4AQ-oc5ypWGGq9Th6i9sHCA… This is the information for people who are new to the group, so they can see how we processed languages in one of the previous steps. Regards Mirjana

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Re: [Latingp] Preliminary list of Languages using Latin script with EGIDS=1-4
by Textual Solutions May 24, 2017

May 24, 2017

Mirjana, there's nothing 'romantic' about language data, how you look at linguistic information depends on which scjhool of linguistics you come from! The training I had recommends that if you look at your data unbiased and without a theory in mind,, patterns will emerge. My suggestion is we start by allocating a certain number of languages to each member. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> wrote: > Dear Nebiye, > > > > You should explain to the group, what someone should look for. Your > question is not clear to me, if I start looking at the languages, I have to > have some idea, what to look for. > > > > Regards > > > > *From: *Textual Solutions <textualsolutions(a)gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 22:28 > *To: *Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> > *Cc: *Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Latingp] Preliminary list of Languages using Latin script > with EGIDS=1-4 > > > > Mirjana, thanks, it's now a matter of who's going to look at which > languages? Could the members of the Repertoire group please state > preferences? > > > > 23 May 2017 22:13 tarihinde "Mirjana Tasić" <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> > yazdı: > > Dear GP members > > > > Here we have two links: > > > > > > 1. Preliminary list of Languages using Latin script sorted by EGIDS > (only 1-4) and then by *ISO 639-3* > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBb7wsy_hjBex6JXSIeJNOeK1KMIjU70pQRqLF > R331s/edit?usp=sharing > > > > I have granted access to this table for all GP members > > > > > > > > 2. Procedure which has been used in measuring the time necessary > for processing all letters for one language > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRYCtrgYqcK1USIE4AQ- > oc5ypWGGq9Th6i9sHCAEF2Y/edit?usp=sharing > > > > This is the information for people who are new to the group, so they can > see how we processed languages in one of the previous steps. > > > > > > Regards Mirjana > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Latingp mailing list > Latingp(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp > >

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notes from the Repertoire group meeting 23rd May
by Textual Solutions May 24, 2017

May 24, 2017

I'll listen to the recording and revise my notes later, please comment 1. Sarmad shared ARABIC GP's work to set an example 2. Highlighted the issue of 'combined marks' and how they should be treated 3. They should be treated as Sequences rather than code points 4. Mirjana thinks diacritics by themselves should be excluded 5. Sarmad underlined 'contextual motivation' 6. In the course of our work new code points are expected to be discovered and we'll move on from MSR2 to MSR3 7. What to do with letters not existing in MSR2 8. Are the principles used by the other script groups (eg arabic) applicable to Latin? 9. How to draft new principles? 10. First round of RGIDS languages 1-4 to be circulated (180)

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FW: 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 - Invitation to edit - comments from GMAIL
by Mirjana Tasić May 24, 2017

May 24, 2017

Dear GP members, I am forwarding comments from GMAIL to our list, for the record. Regards Mirjana From: Mirjana Tasic <tasmirjana(a)gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 10:35 To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Subject: Fwd: 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 - Invitation to edit Begin forwarded message: From: Textual Solutions <textualsolutions(a)gmail.com<mailto:textualsolutions@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 - Invitation to edit Date: May 24, 2017 at 07:44:40 GMT+2 To: Baky Bauro <bakiaubauro(a)gmail.com<mailto:bakiaubauro@gmail.com>> Cc: Mirjana Tasic <tasmirjana(a)gmail.com<mailto:tasmirjana@gmail.com>>, abdeslam.nasri(a)gmail.com<mailto:abdeslam.nasri@gmail.com>, ahmedbakhat(a)yahoo.com<mailto:ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com>, bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com<mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>, dt9176(a)gmail.com<mailto:dt9176@gmail.com>, elvin.prasad.fj(a)gmail.com<mailto:elvin.prasad.fj@gmail.com>, fiammettacaccavale(a)yahoo.it<mailto:fiammettacaccavale@yahoo.it>, hhezzah.las(a)gmail.com<mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com>, mats.dufberg(a)iis.se<mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se>, meikal(a)mumin.de<mailto:meikal@mumin.de>, Michael Bauland <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de<mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de>>, richof77(a)gmail.com<mailto:richof77@gmail.com>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>, seun.ojedeji(a)gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>, tarik.merghani(a)gmail.com<mailto:tarik.merghani@gmail.com>, Violet Rose Ningakun <vningakun(a)upng.ac.pg<mailto:vningakun@upng.ac.pg>> It most certainly is! This reminder is for those members of the group who aren't familiar with the Asia-Pacific region ))) On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Baky Bauro <bakiaubauro(a)gmail.com<mailto:bakiaubauro@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Mirjana Thanks for your email. I request to kindly note that Kiribati is different from Solomon Islands, hence grateful if could change Language map to Kiribati instead of Solomon Islands. For the other parts or components of the Script, I wish we could have time to consider them during f2f meeting please. Again thanks for the great effort. Regards Bakiau [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Mirjana Tasic (via Google Docs) <tasmirjana(a)gmail.com<mailto:tasmirjana@gmail.com>> wrote: Mirjana Tasic<mailto:tasmirjana@gmail.com> has invited you to edit the following document: [https://ssl.gstatic.com/docs/documents/share/images/services/document-4.png] 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBb7wsy_hjBex6JXSIeJNOeK1KMIjU70pQRqLFR…> [ender's profile photo]editing rights for Languages EGIDS = 1-4 Open in Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBb7wsy_hjBex6JXSIeJNOeK1KMIjU70pQRqLFR…> Google Docs: Create and edit documents online. Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA You have received this email because someone shared a document with you from Google Docs. [ogo for Google Docs]<https://drive.google.com/>

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Fwd: 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 - Invitation to edit
by Mirjana Tasic May 24, 2017

May 24, 2017

Dear GP members, I am forwarding comments from GMAIL to our mailing list regards Mirjana > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Textual Solutions <textualsolutions(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 - Invitation to edit > Date: May 24, 2017 at 07:44:40 GMT+2 > To: Baky Bauro <bakiaubauro(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Mirjana Tasic <tasmirjana(a)gmail.com>, abdeslam.nasri(a)gmail.com, ahmedbakhat(a)yahoo.com, bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com, dt9176(a)gmail.com, elvin.prasad.fj(a)gmail.com, fiammettacaccavale(a)yahoo.it, hhezzah.las(a)gmail.com, mats.dufberg(a)iis.se, meikal(a)mumin.de, Michael Bauland <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de>, richof77(a)gmail.com, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>, seun.ojedeji(a)gmail.com, tarik.merghani(a)gmail.com, Violet Rose Ningakun <vningakun(a)upng.ac.pg> > > It most certainly is! This reminder is for those members of the group who aren't familiar with the Asia-Pacific region ))) > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Baky Bauro <bakiaubauro(a)gmail.com <mailto:bakiaubauro@gmail.com>> wrote: > Dear Mirjana > > Thanks for your email. > > I request to kindly note that Kiribati is different from Solomon Islands, hence grateful if could change Language map to Kiribati instead of Solomon Islands. For the other parts or components of the Script, I wish we could have time to consider them during f2f meeting please. > > Again thanks for the great effort. > > Regards > Bakiau > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <x-msg://4/#m_6419461637223755632_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Mirjana Tasic (via Google Docs) <tasmirjana(a)gmail.com <mailto:tasmirjana@gmail.com>> wrote: > Mirjana Tasic <mailto:tasmirjana@gmail.com> has invited you to edit the following document: > > 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBb7wsy_hjBex6JXSIeJNOeK1KMIjU70pQRqLFR…> > editing rights for Languages EGIDS = 1-4 > Open in Docs <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBb7wsy_hjBex6JXSIeJNOeK1KMIjU70pQRqLFR…> > Google Docs: Create and edit documents online. > Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA > You have received this email because someone shared a document with you from Google Docs. <https://drive.google.com/> >

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Latin GP Repertoire WG meeting 20170523
by Sarmad Hussain May 23, 2017

May 23, 2017

Dear All, Please find attached the principles for inclusion and exclusion from Arabic GP, discussed in the call today. Regards, Sarmad -----Original Appointment----- From: Sarmad Hussain Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:51 PM To: Latin GP Subject: Latin GP Repertoire WG meeting - alternate Tuesdays 5pm UTC When: Occurs every 2 week(s) on Tuesday effective 5/23/2017 until 6/30/2017 from 10:00 PM to 11:00 PM (UTC+05:00) Islamabad, Karachi. Where: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Latin GP Repertoire WG meeting - alternate Tuesdays 5pm UTC
by Sarmad Hussain May 23, 2017

May 23, 2017

How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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FW: Minutes - Phone call on May the 16, 2017.
by Mirjana Tasić May 22, 2017

May 22, 2017

Dear GP members, I am sending again my yesterday mail with minutes, because I did not get the copy of this mail. Sorry for this exta mail, I dont know what went wrong. Regadrs Mirjana From: Mirjana Tasić Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:07 PM To: latingp-bounces(a)icann.org Subject: Minutes - Phone call on May the 16, 2017. Dear colleagues, Here are some notes from the conference call held on May the 16, 2017. Sorry I am late with notes. Comments, corrections, suggestions are very appreciated. Regards Mirjana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Roll call 2. Organization of Repertoire and Variant Group 3. AOB Notes: 1. Roll call: Following GP members were present on the call: Bill Jouris Dennis Tan Fiammetta Caccavale Michael Bauland Nebiye Petek Kurtböke Sarmad Hussain Dennis Tan Meikal Mumin Mats Dufberg Mirjana Tasić 1. Organization of Repertoire and Variant Group After some discussion Variant and Repertoire group were organized: Repertoire group members: * Nebiye Petek Kurtböke(chair) * Ahmed * Fiammetta * Hazzem * Meikal * Mats * Mirjana * Ousmane * Tran Canh * Violet Variant group members: * Bill * Denis * Michael * Meikal One week the Group call will be organized, and the other week will be the Panel call. Sarmad will issue doodle poll in order to decide the dates and time for phone calls of the Repertoire group. Also, Panel phone call schedule should be adjusted if necessary. Variant group will agree on their calls schedule by themselves. Variant group will also decide who will lead the group. 1. AOB Sarmad and Mirjana will try to provide draft agenda for Istanbul face to face meeting.

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Latin GP and working groups - phone call schedules verification
by Mirjana Tasić May 22, 2017

May 22, 2017

Dear GP members, please find enclosed summarized information about our future calls, and explanation from Sarmad about Variant group calls. * We shall have Panel phone calls every second week at 12:00 UTC starting from Tuesday next week i.e May the 30th. * Repertoire phone calls will be every second week at 17:00 UTC starting from Tuesday May 23rd . * Variant phone call is scheduled this week at 15:00 UTC on Friday 26th of May - this shedule might change in future. Sarmad is not organizing the variant group call - that is managed by the Dennis, who is chairing it. So those members wanting to attend it should connect with Dennis directly. Regards Mirjana

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