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Sharp S
by Bill Jouris Jan. 2, 2020

Jan. 2, 2020

Dear colleagues, It seems to me that we have two options to address the IP's concerns about Sharp S: 1) we can say something like "Sharp S can only occur when used in a valid German word or name. Thus it cannot be the first letter in a TLD, must follow a vowel, etc." At which point we will need to reference an authoritative source on what are valid German words and valid German names. 2) we can say something like "The variant relationship between double S (ss) and Sharp S exists because of different usages in different places where German is the official language. But that relationship is otherwise irrelevant for constructing TLDs. From the beginning, TLDs have existed which were not valid words. That practice has continued as new gTLDs (not to mention ccTLDs) were established. It is not our intention to police German spelling rules. Therefore a Sharp S can occur at the beginning of a TLD, following a consonant (including following another Sharp S), etc." I confess that my initial inclination was to go with option 1. But Michael has convinced me that the second option is more reasonable. If we go with the former, it would clearly need to go in Section 7 WLEs. That may also be the correct place to put the latter text, if that is how we go. Or maybe another location would be better.... Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Task distribution for Appendix D
by Mirjana Tasić Dec. 29, 2019

Dec. 29, 2019

Dear GP members, Here is task distribution for Appendix D. The same file could be found in our DROPBOX folder 2019-12-05-Report<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zfkwsxg3gfk8sv0/AAC3Ts7KPbF76l7l2D4-iWzsa?dl=0> Please do it ASAP. Please send your contributions to the list as word files, Sarmad, Pitinan or me will put your contributions in the Report. Report file is too large to use it for this updates by everyone. When all texts would be in the Report, I hope Bill will find some time to check the language. Regards Mirjana

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Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Status of the Report
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Dec. 27, 2019

Dec. 27, 2019

Dear Mirjana, and All, Sure, I’ll check the report as instructed. Happy holidays to you all. Talk to you in 2020! Regards, Pitinan From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 05:53 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Cc: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Status of the Report Dear GP members, Dear Pitinan, Dear Sarmad, I have tried to incorporate following changes to 2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR [dropbox.com] Bill’s contribution sent in an e-mail on Dec 13th BJ - 2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR [dropbox.com] Then I incorporated manually changes from 2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR-REV MM 2019-12-18-merged with Google Docs and repaired [dropbox.com] sent by Meikal Today Meikal sent the same file as previous (MM-2019-12-27-New version of revision of Proposal from Dec 18 with all changes in Green for MT) [dropbox.com] where changes which should be incorporated in the report are marked green. I hope that Pitinan could check if I have inserted all important changes in our new Report file (2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR [dropbox.com] I have added my last contribution for Appendix D in our new Report file (2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR [dropbox.com] In the new Report file (2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR [dropbox.com] TBDs comments in the text, which are done, have been removed. Pitinan and Sarmad have offered their help for future maintenance of the Report. I want to thank them for their offer. Pitinan, please try to do following with current version of the Report ((2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR [dropbox.com] Check if I have inserted all changes which Meikal has marked in green in his contribution (MM-2019-12-27-New version of revision of Proposal from Dec 18 with all changes in Green for MT) [dropbox.com] . Add Meikal’s Appendix D contribution from file (2019-12-15-Appendix D Homework MM) We shall discuss how to proceed with changes of the Report during our next call. Best Regards Mirjana

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Status of the Report
by Mirjana Tasić Dec. 27, 2019

Dec. 27, 2019

Dear GP members, Dear Pitinan, Dear Sarmad, I have tried to incorporate following changes to 2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/2c001b4if1f3x1b/2019-12-05-IP-Proposal%20for%20a%…>: 1. Bill’s contribution sent in an e-mail on Dec 13th BJ - 2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zh6ydg3uiszywq/BJ%20-%202019-12-05-IP-Proposal%2…> 2. Then I incorporated manually changes from 2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR-REV MM 2019-12-18-merged with Google Docs and repaired<https://www.dropbox.com/s/80fdj98pk6kptgg/2019-12-05-IP-Proposal%20for%20a%…> sent by Meikal 3. Today Meikal sent the same file as previous (MM-2019-12-27-New version of revision of Proposal from Dec 18 with all changes in Green for MT) <https://www.dropbox.com/s/bri9eahmuk2elxt/MM-2019-12-27-New%20version%20of%…> where changes which should be incorporated in the report are marked green. I hope that Pitinan could check if I have inserted all important changes in our new Report file (2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fuax3orttbjf6e/2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScript…>) 4. I have added my last contribution for Appendix D in our new Report file (2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fuax3orttbjf6e/2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScript…>) 5. In the new Report file (2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fuax3orttbjf6e/2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScript…>) TBDs comments in the text, which are done, have been removed. Pitinan and Sarmad have offered their help for future maintenance of the Report. I want to thank them for their offer. Pitinan, please try to do following with current version of the Report ((2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScriptRootZoneLGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fuax3orttbjf6e/2020-01-02-ProposalForLatinScript…>): * Check if I have inserted all changes which Meikal has marked in green in his contribution (MM-2019-12-27-New version of revision of Proposal from Dec 18 with all changes in Green for MT) <https://www.dropbox.com/s/bri9eahmuk2elxt/MM-2019-12-27-New%20version%20of%…> . * Add Meikal’s Appendix D contribution from file (2019-12-15-Appendix D Homework MM<applewebdata://52086B7D-898D-4962-9629-FCF597D2B073/2019-12-15-Appendix%20D%20Homework%20MM.docx>) We shall discuss how to proceed with changes of the Report during our next call. Best Regards Mirjana

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Call today?
by Hazem Hezzah Dec. 26, 2019

Dec. 26, 2019

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IP feedback on 2019-12-05 Version of the Report
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Dec. 20, 2019

Dec. 20, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the feedback from the IP on section 6.3.4 of the latest submitted proposal . The submitted proposal is also attached. However, for easy reference, following is the specific table with mapping to IP feedback. Kindly review and use it as information to finalize the Latin GP proposal. Section 6.3.4 from file “2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR.docx” Source Unicode NameSource Code PointSource GlyphVariant Relation-shipTarget GlyphTarget Code PointTarget Unicode NameDispositionRationaleIP # Latin Small Letter L006Cl↔ӏ04CFCyrillic Small Letter PalochkaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design1 Latin Small Letter L006Cl↔ا0627Arabic Letter AlefBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design2 Latin Small Letter L006Cl↔ା0B3EOriya Vowel Sign AaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design3 Latin Small Letter Dotless I0131ı↔ו 05D5Hebrew Letter VavBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design6 Latin Small Letter Dotless I0131ı↔ၢ1062Myanmar Vowel Sign Sgaw Karen EuBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design5 Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔ο0B6FGreek Small Letter OmicronBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font designNA Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔о043FCyrillic Small Letter OBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font designNA Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔օ0585Armenian Small Letter OhBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design8 Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔ס05E1Hebrew Letter SamekhBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design7 Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔ଠ0B20Oriya Letter TthaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design4 Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔ഠ0D20Malayalam Letter TthaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design4 Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔ဝ101DMyanmar Letter WaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font designNA Latin Small Letter O006Fo↔ዐ12D0Ethiopic Syllable Pharyngeal ABlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design8 Latin Small Letter C0053c↔С0441Cyrillic Small Letter ESBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design9 Latin Small Letter C0053c↔ເ0EC0Lao Vowel Sign EBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design10 Latin Small Letter C0053c↔င1004Myanmar Letter NgaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design11 Latin Small Letter Open O0254ɔ↔ວ0EA7Lao Letter WoBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design10 Latin Small Letter Open O0254ɔ↔ာ102CMyanmar Vowel Sign AaBlockedGlyphs nearly identical due to font design12 Regards, Pitinan From: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, December 6, 2019 at 08:43 To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Cc: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org>, Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] FOR IP: 2019-12-05 Version of the Report - Proposal for Latin script Root Zone LGR - working material Thank you Mirjana, all, for your efforts. This has been shared with IP for review. Regards Sarmad Sent from my iPhone On 06-Dec-2019, at 1:20 AM, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> wrote: Dear Pitinan, Dear Sarmad, Please forward this version of Latin GP Report to IP as discussed with IP members during ICANN66 Montreal meeting. In this working document Latin GP addressed some TBD issues mentioned by IP. Some TBD issues could not be addressed in this version, because some more discussion in the Latin GP is necessary. All TBD form IP have been written in red ink. All addressed TBD are marked green. I am sending two versions of the working document. Version 2019-12-04 is with track changes Version 2019-12-05 is with all changes accepted and some additional TBD resolved. More formatting of the document is done. Some problems with references are solved. Best regards Mirjana <2019-12-04-IP-TrackOn-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR.docx> <2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR.docx>

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[update zoom link] Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Dec. 20, 2019

Dec. 20, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This meeting is cancelled due to the holiday break. Regards, Pitinan

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Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Dec. 19, 2019

Dec. 19, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meeting on Thursday 19 December 2019, 16:00-17:00 UTC. Please join the meeting at https://icann.zoom.us/j/824530213. Please find attached the message from the chair and agenda. Regards, Pitinan ........ Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. For Agenda item no 3 it is important to be familiar with following documents in the DROPBOX: * IP-Review-Latin-Variants-201910-04-final [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_9i6s…> * Cross-Script-Talking-Points-v2 [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_62rk…> PLEASE READ THEM BEFORE CALL. All obsolete versions of data sets in our LATIN GP DROPBOX folder 2019-12-05-Report[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_sh_zfk…> containing current documents for work are moved to folder ARCHIVE in the same folder. I have made our working version of the report (2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_2c00…>) read only, so you should make your copies of the report and send them to me or put them in the DROPBOX for further merge. The last change of this data set was on Dec 18th, 2019, when I made it READ ONLY. Please start the filename of your copy of the report with your initials for example MT-2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on December the 19th 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Review of 2019-12-18-AppendixD-missingAnalysis [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_kcde…>. 3. Review of Variants discussion with IP during ICANN66 2019-12-12-TBD-ReportV5-VariantAnalysis [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_hh5e…>. Please read before call following documents in the DROPBOX: * IP-Review-Latin-Variants-201910-04-final [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_9i6s…> * Cross-Script-Talking-Points-v2 [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_62rk…> 4. Next meeting proposal December the 26th, 2019, 16:00UTC , or January the 2nd, 2020, or January 9th 2020 5. AOB

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New document 2019-12-19-AppendixD-missingAnalysis-assigned for discussion
by Mirjana Tasić Dec. 19, 2019

Dec. 19, 2019

Dear GP members, I added new version of the document about appendix D<https://www.dropbox.com/s/el65acjt1cnkr04/2019-12-19-AppendixD-missingAnaly…> finalization. This is proposal, we shall discuss it today. Regards Mirjana

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AGENDA for the GP call on December the 19th 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Dec. 18, 2019

Dec. 18, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. For Agenda item no 3 it is important to be familiar with following documents in the DROPBOX: * IP-Review-Latin-Variants-201910-04-final<https://www.dropbox.com/s/9i6s2wrc48ivtpt/IP-Review-Latin-Variants-201910-0…> * Cross-Script-Talking-Points-v2<https://www.dropbox.com/s/62rkjkb6slob3g0/Cross-Script-Talking-Points-v2.do…> PLEASE READ THEM BEFORE CALL. All obsolete versions of data sets in our LATIN GP DROPBOX folder 2019-12-05-Report<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zfkwsxg3gfk8sv0/AAC3Ts7KPbF76l7l2D4-iWzsa?dl=0> containing current documents for work are moved to folder ARCHIVE in the same folder. I have made our working version of the report (2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR<https://www.dropbox.com/s/2c001b4if1f3x1b/2019-12-05-IP-Proposal%20for%20a%…>) read only, so you should make your copies of the report and send them to me or put them in the DROPBOX for further merge. The last change of this data set was on Dec 18th, 2019, when I made it READ ONLY. Please start the filename of your copy of the report with your initials for example MT-2019-12-05-IP-Proposal for a Latin Script Root Zone LGR. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on December the 19th 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Review of 2019-12-18-AppendixD-missingAnalysis<https://www.dropbox.com/s/kcdef70mtox770t/2019-12-18-AppendixD-missingAnaly…>. 3. Review of Variants discussion with IP during ICANN66 2019-12-12-TBD-ReportV5-VariantAnalysis<https://www.dropbox.com/s/hh5e7jh8rdrkixg/2019-12-12-TBD-ReportV5-VariantAn…>. Please read before call following documents in the DROPBOX: * IP-Review-Latin-Variants-201910-04-final<https://www.dropbox.com/s/9i6s2wrc48ivtpt/IP-Review-Latin-Variants-201910-0…> * Cross-Script-Talking-Points-v2<https://www.dropbox.com/s/62rkjkb6slob3g0/Cross-Script-Talking-Points-v2.do…> 4. Next meeting proposal December the 26th, 2019, 16:00UTC , or January the 2nd, 2020, or January 9th 2020 5. AOB

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