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AGENDA for the GP call on March, the 01st, 2018, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić March 1, 2018

March 1, 2018

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the proposal of Agenda for our next telephone conference. Regards Mirjana AGENDA for the GP call on March, the 01st, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Last revision of minutes from the F2F meeting in Brussels https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KIVQlkHYc6_ib1ZDSbxRcLVlSHnhAVvc99ZrGw… 3. Finalization of Repertoire table https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Usd8zv_5TJ-cJaNZ2Iprf-uVIRVan8wZZlkqFGv… 4. Short report from Variant group Denis send the revised variant section: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrT_kfildf1SumYUqjkaIkMT-TYx9IRqtuPMV4Y… 5. Short report from Drafing Team https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dy1zxy2vH6c-xaBMt4nqw4hfUuMN6wNAwDNPDxp… 6. AOB

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Latin GP Bi-weekly meeting Thursday 1600UTC
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Feb. 28, 2018

Feb. 28, 2018

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP Bi-weekly meeting on Thursday at 16.00 UTC. Please find the suggested Agenda by the Chair as following: AGENDA for the GP call on March, the 01st, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Last revision of minutes from the F2F meeting in Brussels https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KIVQlkHYc6_ib1ZDSbxRcLVlSHnhAVvc99ZrGw…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 3. Finalization of Repertoire table https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Usd8zv_5TJ-cJaNZ2Iprf-uVIRVan8wZZlkqFGv…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 4. Short report from Variant group Denis send the revised variant section: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrT_kfildf1SumYUqjkaIkMT-TYx9IRqtuPMV4Y…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 5. Short report from Drafing Team https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dy1zxy2vH6c-xaBMt4nqw4hfUuMN6wNAwDNPDxp…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 6. AOB Regards, Pitinan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Re: [Latingp] Request for agenda for the Latin call on Thursday 1 March
by Mirjana Tasić Feb. 28, 2018

Feb. 28, 2018

Dear Pitinan, Here is the Agenda for the next call. Regards Mirjana AGENDA for the GP call on March, the 01st, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Last revision of minutes from the F2F meeting in Brussels https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KIVQlkHYc6_ib1ZDSbxRcLVlSHnhAVvc99ZrGw… 3. Finalization of Repertoire table https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Usd8zv_5TJ-cJaNZ2Iprf-uVIRVan8wZZlkqFGv… 4. Short report from Variant group Denis send the revised variant section: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrT_kfildf1SumYUqjkaIkMT-TYx9IRqtuPMV4Y… 5. Short report from Drafing Team https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dy1zxy2vH6c-xaBMt4nqw4hfUuMN6wNAwDNPDxp… 6. AOB From: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 13:43 To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Cc: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Subject: Request for agenda for the Latin call on Thursday 1 March Dear Mirjana Could you please suggest the agenda for the Latin conference call on 1 March 2018 (Thursday). Regards, Pitinan

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Variants - work in progress
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Feb. 27, 2018

Feb. 27, 2018

Latin GP, Here is an in-progress draft of the revised variants section per the face-to-face meeting in Brussels and feedback from IP. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrT_kfildf1SumYUqjkaIkMT-TYx9IRqtuPMV4Y… I will continue to augment this document during this week, but your feedback is welcome. Best, Dennis

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Latin GP Bi-weekly meeting Thursday 1600UTC
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Feb. 21, 2018

Feb. 21, 2018

Dear Latin GP members, This is a place holder for the Latin GP Bi-weekly meeting on Thursday at 16.00 UTC. Regards, Pitinan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Re: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP on 15 February 2018
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Feb. 20, 2018

Feb. 20, 2018

My updates below From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 12:04 PM To: "LatinGP(a)icann.org" <LatinGP(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP on 15 February 2018 Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of Latin GP on 15 February 2018. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Rephrase the text in the F2F Minutes of Meeting as discussed by the GP DT - Done 2 Prepare sample labels for Latin Script which are not in A-Z(a-z) MT, MD 3 Review and finalize the code point repertoire by 22 February 2018 MT, BJ, AM, HH 4 Revise the text for Principles for variants as discussed during the F2F meeting DT – In progress 5 Prepare the Latin GP update presentation at ICANN61 by 19 January 2018 MD This summary and the previous meeting notes are posted at the Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP[community.…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> Regards, Pitinan

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FW: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Feb. 20, 2018

Feb. 20, 2018

FYI. I received this through my Unicode feed, and I thought it might be relevant to our repertoire analysis. -Dennis From: Unicode <unicode-bounces(a)unicode.org> on behalf of Christoph Päper via Unicode <unicode(a)unicode.org> Reply-To: Christoph Päper <christoph.paeper(a)crissov.de> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 2:50 PM To: "unicode(a)unicode.org" <unicode(a)unicode.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character? Apparently the presidential decree prescribing the new Kazakh Latin orthography and alphabet has been amended recently. The change completely dumps the previous approach of digraphs with an apostrophe in second position in favor of an acute diacritic mark above the base letters for vowels Á/á, Í/í, Ó/ó, Ú/ú, Ý/ý and two consonants Ǵ/ǵ and Ń/ń, while the other two become commonly encountered H digraphs, Ch/ch and Sh/sh. Rejoice. https://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/novyiy-variant-kazahskogo-alfavita-la… http://www.akorda.kz/kz/legal_acts/decrees/kazak-tili-alipbiin-kirillicadan… http://www.akorda.kz/upload/media/files/785986f23c47a407facbfa52b935fc85.doc -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

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Summary of Latin GP on 15 February 2018
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Feb. 20, 2018

Feb. 20, 2018

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of Latin GP on 15 February 2018. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Rephrase the text in the F2F Minutes of Meeting as discussed by the GP DT 2 Prepare sample labels for Latin Script which are not in A-Z(a-z) MT, MD 3 Review and finalize the code point repertoire by 22 February 2018 MT, BJ, AM, HH 4 Revise the text for Principles for variants as discussed during the F2F meeting DT 5 Prepare the Latin GP update presentation at ICANN61 by 19 January 2018 MD This summary and the previous meeting notes are posted at the Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP[community.…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> Regards, Pitinan

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Final repertoire table done by Hazem Hezzah, updated by Mirjana
by Mirjana Tasić Feb. 15, 2018

Feb. 15, 2018

Dear GP members, Please find the link to google document with almost final Repertoire table. Hazem has done all of it, I have updated with additional information which were not in the original table. My updates are marked yellow in at least one cell of the row. Everybody with a link can comment it. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Usd8zv_5TJ-cJaNZ2Iprf-uVIRVan8wZZlkqFGv… Regards Mirjana From: Hazem Hezzah <hhezzah.las(a)gmail.com> Organization: LAS Date: Monday, February 12, 2018 at 12:29 To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>, 'Mats Dufberg' <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se>, "'Tan Tanaka, Dennis'" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>, 'Bill Jouris' <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com>, 'Michael Bauland' <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de>, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Cc: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Hello all, I finished merging & formatting the final repertoire. Here it is attached for all to take a look and comment. Here my comments where feedback is needed: 1. Some code points have too many supporting references. Should we include them all in the table? 2. 0069 + 0331 (LATIN SMALL LETTER I + COMBINING MACRON BELOW) : Glyph is missing 3. 00F3 ó (LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH ACUTE): Many references to different languages, and only Spanish in the language column Regards, Hazem Hezzah From: Hazem Hezzah [mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 07 February, 2018 14:41 To: 'Mirjana Tasić'; 'Sarmad Hussain'; 'Mats Dufberg'; 'Tan Tanaka, Dennis'; 'Bill Jouris'; 'Michael Bauland'; 'Pitinan Kooarmornpatana' Subject: RE: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Actually the final LGR proposal will be in Word, so it will be easier to integrate. Will go on with Word. Regards, Hazem Hezzah From: Mirjana Tasić [mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs] Sent: Wednesday, 07 February, 2018 14:12 To: Sarmad Hussain; Hazem Hezzah; 'Mats Dufberg'; 'Tan Tanaka, Dennis'; 'Bill Jouris'; 'Michael Bauland'; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Subject: Re: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Dear Hazem, My opinion is that if word document suits better for your work, please use word. Word document is acceptable for LGR proposal, as Sarmad said, so please use the word. Regards Mirjana From: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 11:00 To: Hazem Hezzah <hhezzah.las(a)gmail.com<mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com>>, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs<mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>>, 'Mats Dufberg' <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se<mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se>>, "'Tan Tanaka, Dennis'" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>>, 'Bill Jouris' <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com<mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>>, 'Michael Bauland' <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de<mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de>>, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org<mailto:pitinan.koo@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Hi Hazem, If the intent is to make table for the LGR proposal, the word version can work equally effectively. However, I defer to the GP members to decide. Regards, Sarmad From: Hazem Hezzah [mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:53 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>; 'Mirjana Tasić' <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs<mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>>; 'Mats Dufberg' <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se<mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se>>; 'Tan Tanaka, Dennis' <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>>; 'Bill Jouris' <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com<mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>>; 'Michael Bauland' <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de<mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de>>; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org<mailto:pitinan.koo@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Hi Sarmad, That manual conversion is what I was trying to do, only Excel doesn’t accept multiple links in the same cell, so I have to convert the table to a Word document. Regards, Hazem Hezzah From: Sarmad Hussain [mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, 07 February, 2018 11:30 To: Hazem Hezzah; 'Mirjana Tasić'; 'Mats Dufberg'; 'Tan Tanaka, Dennis'; 'Bill Jouris'; 'Michael Bauland'; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Subject: RE: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Hi Hazem, We did receive both the mails. I would suggest to keep the references and the links when conflating the rows, where possible, as it provides more comprehensive information to the reader. If you would like, I can help with converting the information to another table – should be able to do it manually. Please let me know. Regards, Sarmad From: Hazem Hezzah [mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:10 PM To: 'Mirjana Tasić' <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs<mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>>; 'Mats Dufberg' <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se<mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se>>; 'Tan Tanaka, Dennis' <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>>; 'Bill Jouris' <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com<mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>>; 'Michael Bauland' <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de<mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de>>; Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org<mailto:pitinan.koo@icann.org>> Cc: latingp(a)icann.org<mailto:latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] FW: Final repertoire table Seems my previous mail didn’t go through the list. Regards, Hazem Hezzah From: Hazem Hezzah [mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 06 February, 2018 0:07 To: 'Latin GP' Subject: Final repertoire table Dear all, I started merging the rows for the final repertoire table, but noticed that Excel treats several URLs in the same cell as a single URL. It links only to the first URL within the cell. So, is it acceptable to have the Reference column not linking to all references, or should I move the work to be a Word table? Specially that the final table will be embeded in a Word document. I checked the Arabic LGR, and may be we can take its repertoire table as a reference. Regards, Hazem Hezzah

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Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Feb. 14, 2018

Feb. 14, 2018

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meeting on Thursday, February the 15th, at 16:00 UTC. Please find enclosed the proposed agenda. The link to the Minutes from F2F meeting is https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KIVQlkHYc6_ib1ZDSbxRcLVlSHnhAVvc99ZrGw…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ________________________________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on 15th of February 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Discussion on minutes from the F2F meeting in Brussels 3. Short report from Repertoire Group 4. Short report from Variant group 5. Short report from Drafting Team 6. AOB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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