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AGENDA for the Latin GP call on November the 21th 2019
by Bill Jouris Nov. 19, 2019

Nov. 19, 2019

Dear colleagues, here is the proposed agenda for Thursday's call: AGENDA for the GP call on November the 21th 2019, 16:00UTC - Roll call - Status of additional In-script variant analysis homework - Meikal Trello | | | | Trello Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one gla... | | | - Review of IP edits to our LRG - Proposed additions to the Visual Variants spreadsheet Visual Variants - Analysis.xlsx | | | | | | | | | | | Visual Variants - Analysis.xlsx | | | - Next meeting proposal November the 28 th, 2019, 16:00 UTC (This is a holiday in the US, but I'm OK with it. Dennis?) - AOB Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Wrapping up In-Script Analysis and Agenda for Call on November 21
by Meikal Mumin Nov. 19, 2019

Nov. 19, 2019

Dear colleagues, I discussed the in-script analysis workflow and our agenda for the teleconference on November 21, 2019 with Bill and we agree that we should complete our analysis using the approach already agreed upon, whereby each member produces the necessary data using Wordmark.it, and exports the necessary image files to be inserted into those subsections and writes down her or his own conclusions. a. I have created task lists in Trello (trello.com/c/BoKkXTzF/1-in-script-variants-analysis) where each member can see which feature is assigned to her or him for analysis and which is not checked off (For example in the Trello-list „Shaping of diacritics“ the item „1 - Hazzem - Missing Analysis: Ring above vs. Hook Above - Created template section“). I took the liberty of assigning missing cases to members one by one. b. Then that member looks up the subsection of Appendix D (docs.google.com/document/d/1Ev8jyIjLr3L1gkUEozkS3Xj3RVp1HSbrgZTlM85YvAo/edi…) of the same name (for example „ D.3.11 Ring Above vs. Hook Above“), copies the relevant strings to Wordmark.it for analysis (for example Sequence åả & Sequence ůủ), looks at the data, chooses some noteworthy glyphs, exports a screenshot of that, and sends it together with his or her conclusions on that data in an email to me, CC to Mirjana and Pitinan, so that I could insert that data into the document and check off the the mark in Trello. For our meeting on November 21, I discussed with Bill that we walk through the data which we have already produced and come to a group consensus on wether we consider those cases analyzed as variants or not. I suggest we stick to those cases, where the first GP member producing the data thought they should be variants (unless some members think other cases need reconsideration, too). To that end, we can start discussing all positive cases from section „D.1 Shaping of Base characters“. There, we already have data for 12 out of 14 cases (which leaves only two cases, where we still need data from individual members) in 14 subsections of that section of the Google Docs document. I suggest we go through them one by one and I will lead the discussion on that next week, unless someone else would liek to do it. Best, Meikal

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Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 14 November 2019
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Nov. 15, 2019

Nov. 15, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the summary of the Latin GP meeting on 14 November 2019. And the revised ICANN66 note. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No.Action ItemsOwner 1Draft the text regarding the stacking issue BJ 2Rate the visual-variant set in the Google spreadsheet ALL These notes and recordings for this meeting as well as the Latin GP + IP session during ICANN66 are posted at Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP. If you’d like us to post the ICANN66 note on the wiki page as well, kindly let us know. Regards, Pitinan

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Re: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 14 November 2019
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

For #2 we would need to wait for Bill’s confirmation that all glyphs correspond to the code point being inspected. From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 2:02 PM To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 14 November 2019 Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the summary of the Latin GP meeting on 14 November 2019. And the revised ICANN66 note. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Draft the text regarding the stacking issue BJ 2 Rate the visual-variant set in the Google spreadsheet <https://drive.google.com/file/d/19pjUuhNwDcxHGKJq-7R_LmkZTrobTmQG/view> ALL These notes and recordings for this meeting as well as the Latin GP + IP session during ICANN66 are posted at Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP. If you’d like us to post the ICANN66 note on the wiki page as well, kindly let us know. Regards, Pitinan

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Review of Latin LGR Proposal V5 ( IP-Annotated-04)
by Sarmad Hussain Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the feedback from IP as discussed during ICANN66, beyond the more limited Variant Review that has been shared already. Regards, Sarmad

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FW: [Ext] Latin GP In-Script Variant Analysis
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, Please find the Google sheet for variant analysis prepared by Bill at this link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/19pjUuhNwDcxHGKJq-7R_LmkZTrobTmQG/view?usp=… [drive.google.com] This will be used during the call today. Regards, Pitinan From: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com> Reply-To: "bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com" <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com> Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 22:49 To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Cc: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Subject: Re: [Ext] Latin GP In-Script Variant Analysis Hi Pitinan, I expect we will talk about it at today's meeting. But it won't hurt for everybody to have the link in an email. Thanks! Bill Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [go.onelink.me] On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:18 AM, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> wrote: Dear Bill, Certainly. I have uploaded the file to a Google drive. Please see the file at https://drive.google.com/file/d/19pjUuhNwDcxHGKJq-7R_LmkZTrobTmQG/view?usp=… [drive.google.com] If you want me to forward this to the GP, pls let me know. Regards, Pitinan From: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com> Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 08:11 To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Cc: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Subject: [Ext] Latin GP In-Script Variant Analysis Hi Pitinan, Would you be so kind as to upload the attached spreadsheet to Google Sheets, so we can all do the analysis. Thanks! Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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[update the zoom link] Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meeting on today, 14 November 2019, at 16:00-17:00 UTC. The meeting room is https://icann.zoom.us/j/377131545 (updated) AGENDA for the GP call on November the 14th 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. ICANN66 discussion - how to proceed * Mirjana's notes * IP review of Variants for the proposed Latin LGR dated 2019-10-11, date 2019-11-01 * Cross script talking points v2 * COMPARSION BETWEEN PROPOSED AND IMPOSED VARIANT MAPPINGS- snapshot of working material 3. Status of additional In-script variant analysis homework 4. Discussion - List the variant sets which might have been missed form the previous analysis for further discussion 5. Next meeting proposal November the 21th, 2019, 16:00UTC . Replacement for chair needed. Mirjana cannot attend this call. 6. AOB Regards, Pitinan

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Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meeting on today, 14 November 2019, at 16:00-17:00 UTC. The meeting room is https://icann.zoom.us/j/806371056 AGENDA for the GP call on November the 14th 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. ICANN66 discussion - how to proceed * Mirjana’s notes * IP review of Variants for the proposed Latin LGR dated 2019-10-11, date 2019-11-01 * Cross script talking points v2 * COMPARSION BETWEEN PROPOSED AND IMPOSED VARIANT MAPPINGS- snapshot of working material 3. Status of additional In-script variant analysis homework 4. Discussion - List the variant sets which might have been missed form the previous analysis for further discussion 5. Next meeting proposal November the 21th, 2019, 16:00UTC . Replacement for chair needed. Mirjana cannot attend this call. 6. AOB Regards, Pitinan

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AGENDA for the GP call on November the 14th 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Nov. 13, 2019

Nov. 13, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. I am sending again all documents discussed during ICANN66 and my notes. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on November the 14th 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. ICANN66 discussion - how to proceed * Mirjana’s notes * IP review of Variants for the proposed Latin LGR dated 2019-10-11, date 2019-11-01 * Cross script talking points v2 * COMPARSION BETWEEN PROPOSED AND IMPOSED VARIANT MAPPINGS- snapshot of working material 3. Status of additional In-script variant analysis homework 1. Discussion - List the variant sets which might have been missed form the previous analysis for further discussion 5. Next meeting proposal November the 21th, 2019, 16:00UTC . Replacement for chair needed. Mirjana cannot attend this call. 6. AOB

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Reminder and notes from ICANN66
by Mirjana Tasić Nov. 7, 2019

Nov. 7, 2019

Dear Latin GP members Please find attached my recollection of what I have heard and noted during different conversations at ICANN66. We shall discuss this paper as first item during our next telephone conference call. Let’s try to comment this document until Wednesday, November the 13th, I shall try to consolidate comments, and to present document with all changes. I am asking GP members, who attended ICANN66, to give their input to this document, and to suggest changes to everything I did not understand correctly. Regards Mirjana

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