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Re: [Latingp] Four members think similar
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana May 19, 2021

May 19, 2021

Dear Mirjana, and all, Please find the updated draft below. Kindly let us know if you have any feedback. We are planning to share the message and the attachments with the IP on Thursday 20 May. Regards, Pitinan ////// Dear IP members, 1. The Latin GP thanks the IP for feedback. The Latin GP has considered IP feedback and incorporate most of the items. 2. There are 3 items the GP decided to retain its position: * The consideration of O with horn and Greek sigma remains as variant code points. The GP understands that the Final sigma will also be included in the set via transitivity. * The consideration of U+0272 ɲ as a variant spelling of U+00F1 ñ in Fula language has been discussed. However, the GP could not confirm its usage and therefore these remain not variant code points. * The GP appreciates the proposed mechanism to limit imposed in-script variants in Latin by other scripts. However as it could create inconsistent experience to the users, the Latin GP decided not to implement the proposed mechanism. 3. In additional to feedback incorporated, following changes have been made in version 6. * Adding 4 more code points to the repertoire from two languages (Serer, Kpelle). These code point have been included in the variant analysis as well as per the excel file attached. i. 0260 ɠ LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH HOOK Kpelle ii. 0188 ƈ LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH HOOK Serer iii. 01A5 ƥ LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH HOOK Serer iv. 01AD ƭ LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH HOOK Serer * With point #2.a: i. Two references added for Serer and Kpelle language in the main document ii. Appendix B was updated with additional languages. iii. Appendix C was updated with additional code points. * Move the Variants Pairs Due to Transitivity to be section 6.5 * Adding variant mapping for Latin Small Letter S (0073) and Malayalam Letter Tta (0D1F) * With point #2.5: i. The code point sequence 0D1F 0D1F also added in the set of double S ii. Appendix D.7 Generic Glyphs was updated, Adding 0D1F to S-Shape set. * Other editorial changes. 1. The red-line version from version 6 and version 5 of the main document is provided (proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-v6-redline.docx) as attached. Regards, Mirjana Tasić Latin GP chair From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić via Latingp <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply-To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 10:57 PM To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Four members think similar Dear Pitinan, At least four Latin GP members think that our response to IP should include our discussion and decision about suggestions made by IP which are not included in last version of the Report. Please try to include our decisions on these suggestions also in the response to first IP Feedback. Regards Mirjana

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Four members think similar
by Mirjana Tasić May 19, 2021

May 19, 2021

Dear Pitinan, At least four Latin GP members think that our response to IP should include our discussion and decision about suggestions made by IP which are not included in last version of the Report. Please try to include our decisions on these suggestions also in the response to first IP Feedback. Regards Mirjana

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ACTON NEEDED: Early feedback from IP
by Mirjana Tasić May 19, 2021

May 19, 2021

Dear GP members, Please give your opinion about our response to IP request. 1. IP requested that we provide following information: "Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR." 2. Pitinan provided the following text: Adding 4 more code points to the repertoire from two languages (Serer, Kpelle) 0260 ɠ LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH HOOK Kpelle 0188 ƈ LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH HOOK Serer 01A5 ƥ LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH HOOK Serer 01AD ƭ LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH HOOK Serer With point #1: Two references added for Serer and Kpelle language in the main document Appendix B was updated with additional languages. Appendix C was updated with additional code points. Move the Variants Pairs Due to Transitivity to be section 6.5 Adding variant mapping for Latin Small Letter S (0073) and Malayalam Letter Tta (0D1F) With point #5: The code point sequence 0D1F 0D1F also added in the set of double S Appendix D.7 Generic Glyphs was updated, Adding 0D1F to S-Shape set. Other editorial changes. In addition, the GP has conducted the additional variant set based on the additional code points and the Malayalam Letter Tta. The analysis table has not been included in the version 6 yet. It might be useful to also share the analysis detail to the IP along with this message. Please find attached the sheet (Additional Variant Candidates.xlsx)." 3. Bill proposed and Denis and Michael agreed that we should submit additional material which consists of Michael: "I think there have been a few comments from the IP, where we decided not to follow their preferred suggestion. If we still have those decisions written down somewhere, we should add it to our report to the IP. This avoids confusion where IP could think we overlooked/ignored their comments while we actually did consider them and spent time discussing them, just in the end decided to not change anything." 4. Do you agree that response to IP should contain our decisions about their suggestions that we did not incorporate in the Report? Please respond till the end of this week. I am travelling tomorrow, so I cannot chair tomorrow meeting. Regards Mirjana

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Canceled: Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana May 13, 2021

May 13, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, This meeting is cancelled as the IP feedback has not become available. Regards, Pitinan

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Canceled: Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana May 13, 2021

May 13, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, The meeting this week is cancelled as the IP feedback has not become available. Regards, Pitinan

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Re: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP
by Mirjana Tasić May 11, 2021

May 11, 2021

Dear Sarmad, Is it possible that Pitinan provide such document. One possibility is to compare two documents and find differences. After that we can add rationale. I shall not be available next Thursday for a meeting, I’ll be travelling. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply to: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 18:34 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Latin GP members, Here is a request for IP. Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR. As the Latin LGR proposal does not have redline changes, developing a short document for identifying recent changes will help IP review the Latin GP proposal more effectively. Regards, Sarmad

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Early feedback from IP
by Sarmad Hussain May 11, 2021

May 11, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, Here is a request for IP. Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR. As the Latin LGR proposal does not have redline changes, developing a short document for identifying recent changes will help IP review the Latin GP proposal more effectively. Regards, Sarmad

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Canceled: Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana April 30, 2021

April 30, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, As per discussed by the GP, this meeting on 6 April 2021 is cancelled. Regards, Pitinan

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Summary of the Latin GP Meeting on 29 April 2021
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana April 30, 2021

April 30, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the summary of the Latin GP meeting on 29 April 2021. S. No. Action Item Owner 1 Update the XML LGR proposal as discussed by the GP PK 2 Share the Latin script LGR version 6 package to the IP PK The recordings and the note are also posted at Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP. Regards, Pitinan

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Re: [Latingp] Latin LGR v.6 dated 29 April 2021
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana April 30, 2021

April 30, 2021

Dear All, Please ignore the XML and HTML files in the previous email and use the ones attached. Previous files were outdated document. These are being shared with the IP as well as uploaded to the Latin GP’s OneDrive folder. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. If you have any questions, please let us know. Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana via Latingp <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply-To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 5:14 AM To: "latingp(a)icann.org" <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Latin LGR v.6 dated 29 April 2021 Dear Latin GP Members, Please find attached the Latin script LGR package version 6 dated 29 April 2021. This has incorporated the input from the conclusion from the Latin GP calls. List of attachments: 1. The Latin script LGR version 6 main document (proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-v6.docx) 2. Appendix A - Updated MSR during Latin GP work.pdf 3. Appendix B - Table of Languages Used to Develop Latin Script Repertoire.pdf 4. Appendix C - Repertoire Table Grouped by Glyph.pdf 5. Appendix D - Variants Analysis.pdf 6. Appendix D.1 - Shape of Base Characters.pdf 7. Appendix D.2 - Spacing of Base Characters.pdf 8. Appendix D.3 - Shape of Diacritics.pdf 9. Appendix D.4 - Stacking of Diacritics.pdf 10. Appendix D.5 - IDNA 2003 Compatibility.pdf 11. Appendix D.6 - Underlining Evaluation Process.pdf 12. Appendix D.7 - Generic Glyphs.pdf 13. Appendix D.8 - Caron Above.pdf 14. Appendix D.9 - Cross-script Variants.pdf 15. Appendix E - Visually Confusable Glyphs.pdf 16. proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-en.xml 17. proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-en.html As agreed on the call on 29 April 2021, these are being shared with the IP. We will let you know the IP feedback as soon as it becomes available. Regards, Pitinan

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