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Latin GP weekly meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana June 13, 2019

June 13, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP call today, 13 June, Thursday 16:00 UTC. Please connect to the meeting at https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947. Please find the message and agenda from Mirjana as follows. Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. I am asking Dennis to add items I missed, or to change the order of items if he finds it necessary. Any other comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I am asking Mats to fill his findings on non-visual analysis of Latin code points in template for Appendix D [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…>. You should download tempate, fill it with your analysis and send it to Latin GP mail. If you forgot where are your findings, you can find links to your documents in REMAINDERS section item no 3. All links to relevant working documents could be found either in Action items table or at the end of this document in the sectionREMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on June the 13th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. URL underlining analysis [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> – review sheets produced by Bill 3. Discussion on Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 4. Think of unassigned tasks from Latin GP - Version 5 Schedule [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> 5. Final Report review – resolution of comments and remarks 6. Next meeting proposal June the 15th, 2019, 16:00 7. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1. Dennis started 2. Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3. Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation 4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> 5. All members to put marks in this table 6. Bill summarized inspection of code points 7. Panel review of code points with inconsistent eveluation 8. Panel agreed to give all members the oportunity to challenge rating til May the 27th.. After that Bill volunteered to make two spradsheets: first [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> with agreed variants, the second [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>with code points to be further investigated. 9. ALL – Rate code points non egreed as variants 10. ALL- to rate non agreed variant code points. Some ratings from MM missing 11. Bill to finalize variants for non agreed code points 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “lˇl” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Short report on this action is included in Final report 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 2. Sarmad and Pitinan provided test labels for Repertoire[drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_open-…> 3. Test labels for variants should be provided 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Denis provided Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> To be reviewed by Panel 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. The problem was discussed and Meikal provided template for Appendix D [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> . Template was accepted by panel. 13. Filling Appendix D template [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…>with findings from non-visual analysis. Contributions are in Appendix D[drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_drive…> 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael, Denis, Bill, Hazzem 2. Expecting (Mats) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDERS 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. Following In script Non visual base letter shape analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> ˇ Hazzem ˇ Mirjana ˇ Bill ˇ Meikal ˇ Michael ˇ Dennis ˇ Missing reports from: * Mats 3. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) ˇ Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ˇ Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ˇ Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ˇ Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ˇ Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ˇ Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> ˇ Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> 4. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> Panel members contributions are in Appendix D [drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_drive…> 5. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 6. Underlining analysis excel has two spread sheets : all analyzed code points in “ Sheet1” and code points “To Be Rated” https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> Spread sheet with agreed variants derived from underlining analysis ishttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRRU0kkbGdEdw-nYYXNI0PxgzqHjtgUCe… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> Regards, Pitinan

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AGENDA for the GP call on June the 13th, 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić June 12, 2019

June 12, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. I am asking Dennis to add items I missed, or to change the order of items if he finds it necessary. Any other comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I am asking Mats to fill his findings on non-visual analysis of Latin code points in template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…>. You should download tempate, fill it with your analysis and send it to Latin GP mail. If you forgot where are your findings, you can find links to your documents in REMAINDERS section item no 3. All links to relevant working documents could be found either in Action items table or at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on June the 13th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. URL underlining analysis<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> – review sheets produced by Bill 3. Discussion on Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Asf9ecnyX4rkK3pyQMzDuH8YY5-eXw8quZ6guDi…> 4. Think of unassigned tasks from Latin GP - Version 5 Schedule<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp…> 5. Final Report review – resolution of comments and remarks 6. Next meeting proposal June the 15th, 2019, 16:00 7. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1. Dennis started 2. Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3. Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation 4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> 5. All members to put marks in this table 6. Bill summarized inspection of code points 7. Panel review of code points with inconsistent eveluation 8. Panel agreed to give all members the oportunity to challenge rating til May the 27th.. After that Bill volunteered to make two spradsheets: first<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRRU0kkbGdEdw-nYYXNI0PxgzqHjtgUCeZ7…> with agreed variants, the second<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> with code points to be further investigated. 9. ALL – Rate code points non egreed as variants 10. ALL- to rate non agreed variant code points. Some ratings from MM missing 11. Bill to finalize variants for non agreed code points 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna…> 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Short report on this action is included in Final report 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai_s-9szi6_…> 2. Sarmad and Pitinan provided test labels for Repertoire<https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IVFkoFTu4WjXTR9fSeQwChpyiCifB2fQ> 3. Test labels for variants should be provided 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Denis provided Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Asf9ecnyX4rkK3pyQMzDuH8YY5-eXw8quZ6guDi…> To be reviewed by Panel 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx)<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…> 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. The problem was discussed and Meikal provided template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> . Template was accepted by panel. 13. Filling Appendix D template<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> with findings from non-visual analysis. Contributions are in Appendix D<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13OI1Yb9RO2Z_l4C0hbFCZ8xVONxdwqBU> 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael, Denis, Bill, Hazzem 2. Expecting (Mats) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDERS 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… 1. Following In script Non visual base letter shape analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… · Hazzem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Dennis · Missing reports from: * Mats 1. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1… · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z… · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0… · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… 1. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… Panel members contributions are in Appendix D<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13OI1Yb9RO2Z_l4C0hbFCZ8xVONxdwqBU> 1. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… 1. Underlining analysis excel has two spread sheets : all analyzed code points in “ Sheet1” and code points “To Be Rated” https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE… Spread sheet with agreed variants derived from underlining analysis is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRRU0kkbGdEdw-nYYXNI0PxgzqHjtgUCeZ7…

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Appendix D Contribution
by Bill Jouris June 9, 2019

June 9, 2019

Dear colleagues, Attached (at last!) is my contribution to Appendix D. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Updated schedule 6/6
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis June 6, 2019

June 6, 2019

The schedule is now updated based on our meeting today. Our earliest date to send IP the proposal is on 8/26 which puts a potential face to face meeting on the week of 10/28. Looking at ICANN’s schedule this is on the onset of ICANN 66, so that might be a problem. Personally, my November schedule is busy, so I can’t commit to any travel during that month. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp… There are a few tasks missing owners, if you want to volunteer please let us know. -Dennis

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Latin GP weekly meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana June 6, 2019

June 6, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a placeholder for the Latin GP call on Thursday 16:00 UTC. Please connect to the meeting at https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947. Regards, Pitinan

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Latin GP weekly meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana June 6, 2019

June 6, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder Latin GP meetings starting in 10 mins. Please assess the meeting at https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947. Regards, Pitinan Please find a message from Mirjana and the agenda as follows: ……….. I am asking Mats, Bill, Hazzem all to fill their findings on non-visual analysis of Latin code points in template for Appendix D[onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…>. You should download tempate, fill it with your analysis and send it to Latin GP mail. We need this step so that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot where are your findings, you can find links to your documents in REMAINDERS section item no 3. Also, you can find links for all relevant working documents either in Action items table or at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on June 6, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Latin GP Report Version 5 Schedule [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> 3. URL underlining analysis [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> – how to finalize rating of non agreed variant code points, BJ, MB and MM to finish rating 4. Discussion on Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 5. Final Report review – resolution of comments and remarks 6. Next meeting proposal June the 15th, 2019, 16:00 7. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1. Dennis started 2. Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3. Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation 4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> 5. All members to put marks in this table 6. Bill summarized inspection of code points 7. Panel review of code points with inconsistent eveluation 8. Panel agreed to give all members the oportunity to challenge rating til May the 27th.. After that Bill volunteered to make two spradsheets: first [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> with agreed variants, the second [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>with code points to be further investigated. 9. ALL – Rate code points non egreed as variants 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work Finished reports could be found HERE [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries Michael. Text added in Final Report ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- Michael, results from discussion with IP Short report on this action is included in Final report 6. Develop test label strategy Mirjana gave Proposal[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Sarmad and Pitinan provided test labels for Repertoire[drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_open-…> Test labels for variants should be provided 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version Denis provided Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> To be reviewed by Panel 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. The problem was discussed and Meikal provided template for Appendix D [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> . Template was accepted by panel. 13. Filling Appendix D template [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…>with findings from non-visual analysis. Contributions are in Appendix D[drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_drive…> 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael, Denis 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDERS 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. Following In script Non visual base letter shape analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> · Hazzem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: * Denis * Mats 3. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> 4. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> 5. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 6. Underlining analysis excel has two spread sheets : all analyzed code points in “ Sheet1” and code points “To Be Rated” https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> Spread sheet with agreed variants derived from underlining analysis ishttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRRU0kkbGdEdw-nYYXNI0PxgzqHjtgUCe… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>

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Re: [Latingp] Suggested schedule to finish Version 5
by Mirjana Tasić June 6, 2019

June 6, 2019

I plan my summer vacation from July 16th. until July 31st. I might be available during summer vacation if there would be good internet connection in the resort. If internet connection is poor, someone else should chair our conference calls. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com> Date: Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 23:22 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Suggested schedule to finish Version 5 Mirjana, all Here is a tentative plan to complete version 5 for everyone’s input. I may have missed something so please chime in. The two-week block 7/29-8/5 is a buffer in case we miss the target dates. What is missing in this plan? * Panel member availability (for example, I will be on holiday most of the first week of July) * Task owners * Confidence level that we will meet this plan (hence the buffer) * Something else? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp… Best, Dennis

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Suggested schedule to finish Version 5
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis June 5, 2019

June 5, 2019

Mirjana, all Here is a tentative plan to complete version 5 for everyone’s input. I may have missed something so please chime in. The two-week block 7/29-8/5 is a buffer in case we miss the target dates. What is missing in this plan? * Panel member availability (for example, I will be on holiday most of the first week of July) * Task owners * Confidence level that we will meet this plan (hence the buffer) * Something else? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp… Best, Dennis

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Date of call is 6th of June, Pitininan sent the invitation
by Mirjana Tasić June 5, 2019

June 5, 2019

Dear GP members, Sorry for my mistake, call will be on 6th of June 2019. Pitinan saved me, she sent right date. Regards Mirjana From: Hazem Hezzah <hhezzah.las(a)gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 18:35 To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs>, Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] AGENDA for the GP call on June the 8th, 2019, 16:00UTC MM Shouldn't the next meeting be on Thu 6th of June? And the fill9wibgbone on 13th? Regards, Hazem Hezzah - Sent from my mobile device - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Latingp] AGENDA for the GP call on June the 8th, 2019, 16:00UTC MM From: Mirjana Tasić To: Latin GP CC: Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I am asking Mats, Bill, Hazzem all to fill their findings on non-visual analysis of Latin code points in template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…>. You should download tempate, fill it with your analysis and send it to Latin GP mail. We need this step so that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot where are your findings, you can find links to your documents in REMAINDERS section item no 3. Also, you can find links for all relevant working documents either in Action items table or at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on June the 8th, 2019, 16:00UTC MM 1. Roll call 2. Latin GP Report Version 5 Schedule<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp…> 3. URL underlining analysis<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> – how to finalize rating of non agreed variant code points, BJ, MB and MM to finish rating 4. Discussion on Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Asf9ecnyX4rkK3pyQMzDuH8YY5-eXw8quZ6guDi…> 5. Final Report review – resolution of comments and remarks 6. Next meeting proposal June the 15th, 2019, 16:00 7. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1. Dennis started 2. Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3. Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation 4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> 5. All members to put marks in this table 6. Bill summarized inspection of code points 7. Panel review of code points with inconsistent eveluation 8. Panel agreed to give all members the oportunity to challenge rating til May the 27th.. After that Bill volunteered to make two spradsheets: first<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRRU0kkbGdEdw-nYYXNI0PxgzqHjtgUCeZ7…> with agreed variants, the second<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> with code points to be further investigated. 9. ALL – Rate code points non egreed as variants 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna…> 2. Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Short report on this action is included in Final report 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai_s-9szi6_…> 2. Sarmad and Pitinan provided test labels for Repertoire<https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IVFkoFTu4WjXTR9fSeQwChpyiCifB2fQ> 3. Test labels for variants should be provided 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Denis provided Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Asf9ecnyX4rkK3pyQMzDuH8YY5-eXw8quZ6guDi…> To be reviewed by Panel 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx)<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…> 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. The problem was discussed and Meikal provided template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> . Template was accepted by panel. 13. Filling Appendix D template<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> with findings from non-visual analysis. Contributions are in Appendix D<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13OI1Yb9RO2Z_l4C0hbFCZ8xVONxdwqBU> 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael, Denis 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDERS 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… 1. Following In script Non visual base letter shape analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… • Hazzem • Mirjana • Bill • Meikal • Michael • Missing reports from: · · * Denis * Mats 1. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) • Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… • Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… • Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1… • Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… • Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z… • Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0… • Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… 1. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… 1. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… 1. Underlining analysis excel has two spread sheets : all analyzed code points in “ Sheet1” and code points “To Be Rated” https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE… Spread sheet with agreed variants derived from underlining analysis is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRRU0kkbGdEdw-nYYXNI0PxgzqHjtgUCeZ7…

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Re: [Latingp] AppendixD - Invitation to collaborate
by Hazem Hezzah June 4, 2019

June 4, 2019

Hello, Attached is my contribution to the Appendix. and also uploaded it to the shared folder Regards, Hazem Hezzah tasmirjana(a)gmail.com has invited you to contribute to the following shared folder: AppendixD Contributions for Appendix D Open Google Drive: Have all your files within reach from any device. Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA

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