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Minutes from the call on May 30, 2017
by Mirjana Tasić June 7, 2017

June 7, 2017

Dear colleagues, Here are some notes from the conference call held on May 30, 2017. If I missed some discussions, please correct me. Comments, corrections, suggestions are very appreciated. Regards Mirjana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda I. Roll call II. Short report from the first meeting of Repertoire group III. Short reports from the first meeting of Variant group IV. Discussion about F2F meeting Agenda V. AOB Notes: 1. Roll call: Following GP members were present on the call: Bill Jouris Dennis Tan Fiammetta Caccavale Sarmad Hussain Mats Dufberg Mirjana Tasić Ahmed Bakhat Masood Excused: Meikal Mumin, Michael Bauland, Ousmane Moussa Tessa, Hazem Hezzah 1. Short report from Repertoire Group call Nebiye Petek Kurtböke sent the notes from Repertoire Group meeting as follows: 1. Sarmad shared ARABIC GP's work to set an example 2. Highlighted the issue of 'combined marks' and how they should be treated 3. They should be treated as Sequences rather than code points 4. Mirjana thinks diacritics by themselves should be excluded 5. Sarmad underlined 'contextual motivation' 6. In the course of our work new code points are expected to be discovered and we'll move on from MSR2 to MSR3 7. What to do with letters not existing in MSR2 8. Are the principles used by the other script groups (eg arabic) applicable to Latin? 9. How to draft new principles? 10. First round of RGIDS languages 1-4 to be circulated (180). After the Repertoire group meeting Mats Dufberg sent the proposal how the group could proceed: 1. Accept the Arabic GP principles as preliminary principles. 2. Doing the following in parallel: * Start working on languages with EGIDS code 0-3. * Revise and update the principles as needed 3. Set the principles for Latin GP 4. Continue the work with the languages. 5. We should not hesitate to update the principles again after they are set if needed. Ahmet Bakhat Massod commented the Repertoire Group meeting: “Repertoire group should convene its meetings to identify code points and a presentation be prepared for discussion during Face to Face meeting” 1. Short report from Variant Group call Denis Tan has informed GP members about first meeting of the Variant Group. After the call Denis sent the following report to GP mailing list: NOTES: * Reviewed summary of body of knowledge of Latin Variants (for TLDs) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w76ObHKBuhlMh4ajX07M1x9eNSUiCuhHTq9sNza… * Discussed criteria for variants in the Latin script): * IP’s expectation clearly limits the scope of variants for the Latin script. Their views are supported by other past work products (e.g. Considerations in the Use of the Latin Script in Variant Internationalized Top-Level Domains) * Latin GP may recommend that strong similarity review mechanisms are in place when processing gTLD applications in future rounds to minimize delegation of confusable TLDs. * Draft principle 1: Variants in Latin script will be limited to homoglyphs (i.e. code points designed by Unicode to look identical) * Variant WG will be looking at in-script and cross-script variants. * We need to review code point sequences that involve more than one diacritic. * For cross-script variants we will be looking at Cyrillic, Armenian and Greek work. As well as Unicode’s intentional and confusable character lists. Bill will also share a work of his own. 1. Discussion about F2F meeting Agenda Sarmad proposed the template for organization of F2F meeting in Istanbul. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1myKxtzvvdgdK3Va4SvB5TjVG3rL6nJJRgp1… - gid=0<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1myKxtzvvdgdK3Va4SvB5TjVG3rL6nJJRgp1…> GP members are asked to consider the proposal, to add some more interesting topics for discussion, and to volunteer for chairing different topics. Ahmed Bakhat add topic: “It was proposed to start presentation from Mirjana to briefly communicate how the panel was formed and Chris started chairing the group and submitted 1st draft proposal to ICANN, later on, Mirjana took the lead and worked to sort out issues raised by ICANN and managed to submit final proposal, which was finally accepted by ICANN. She may also communicate the way forward for group”

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[lgr] ICANN News Alert -- Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone Version 2 (RZ-LGR-2)
by Sarmad Hussain June 7, 2017

June 7, 2017

Dear All, We would like to inform you that the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone Version 2 (RZ-LGR-2) has been released for public comment: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rz-lgr-2-2017-06-06-en. The second version of the Root Zone LGR integrates proposals from six scripts: Arabic, Ethiopic, Georgian, Lao, Thai and Khmer. Armenian script Generation Panel has also finalized their work but its proposal has been deferred from integration until proposals from related scripts are received. Please see the “Overview and Summary” document for more details: https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/lgr/lgr-2-overview-01jun17-en.pdf. We look forward to your review and comments. Regards, Sarmad News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2017-06-06-en[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_ann…> ________________________________ Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone Version 2 (RZ-LGR-2) 6 June 2017 Open Date: 6 June 2017 Close Date: 24 July 2017 Originating Organization: Global Domains Division Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains Brief Overview: To determine valid top-level Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) labels and their variant labels, the community had finalized the Procedure to Develop and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_syste…> [PDF, 1.39 MB]. The Procedure requires community-based Generation Panels (GPs), organized for relevant scripts, to convene and propose specific rules. These rules are evaluated and then integrated into the Root Zone Label Generation Rules (RZ-LGR) by the Integration Panel (IP). The Integration Panel (IP) has successfully evaluated the Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) Proposals[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource…> for five additional scripts, Ethiopic, Georgian, Lao, Khmer and Thai, submitted by the respective GPs, following the release of these individual proposals for public comments. The IP has integrated these proposals, along with Arabic script already integrated into the first version of the Root Zone LGR (RZ-LGR-1[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource…>), to develop the second version of the Root Zone LGR (RZ-LGR-2[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_sites_de…> [PDF, 891 KB]). As per the Procedure, RZ-LGR-2 is being released for public comments to gather community feedback for its finalization. Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rz-lgr-2-2017-06-06-en[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2…> _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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Latin GP Repertoire WG meeting - alternate Tuesdays 5pm UTC
by Sarmad Hussain June 6, 2017

June 6, 2017

Dear All, Repertoire WG will meet at 5pm UTC on 6 June 2017. Regards, Sarmad How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Re: [Latingp] Welcome new members
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis June 6, 2017

June 6, 2017

Jean and Amadou, Welcome! I look forward to working with you. Best, Dennis From: <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 7:43 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>, Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Welcome new members Dear Jean and Amadou, Welcome to our community. Thank you very much for your decision to help us with our project. Raegrds Mirjana From: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 13:40 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Cc: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Subject: Welcome new members Dear All, Please join us to welcome two new members to the Latin GP: Jean Paul Nkurunziza ISOC BURUNDI, Réseau des Télécentres Communautaires du Burundi Burundi Kirundi, Swahili, French, English Amadou LY Board Authority Telecommunication and Post Republique of Senegal Senegal Pulaar, Wolof, French See complete membership list at the Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP. Regards, Sarmad

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Welcome new members
by Sarmad Hussain June 6, 2017

June 6, 2017

Dear All, Please join us to welcome two new members to the Latin GP: Jean Paul Nkurunziza ISOC BURUNDI, Réseau des Télécentres Communautaires du Burundi Burundi Kirundi, Swahili, French, English Amadou LY Board Authority Telecommunication and Post Republique of Senegal Senegal Pulaar, Wolof, French See complete membership list at the Latin GP wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP. Regards, Sarmad

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Re: [Latingp] 01-LanguageAZ-EGIDS-1-4 - Invitation to edit - comment from Bakiau
by Mirjana Tasić June 5, 2017

June 5, 2017

Dear Bakiau, Thank you very much for your comment. Which row in the table should be changed. The table is produced using data from following sites: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/langalph.htm https://www.ethnologue.com/browse/names Mistakes are possible. Regards Mirjana On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Baky Bauro <bakiaubauro(a)gmail.com<mailto:bakiaubauro@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Mirjana Thanks for your email. I request to kindly note that Kiribati is different from Solomon Islands, hence grateful if could change Language map to Kiribati instead of Solomon Islands. For the other parts or components of the Script, I wish we could have time to consider them during f2f meeting please. Again thanks for the great effort. Regards Bakiau

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character-based analysis
by Textual Solutions June 5, 2017

June 5, 2017

Dear All, Each member of the Rep. group may be invited to look at one character only across the languages listed. What do you think? Pls see sample attached and comment. Thanks. NPK

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Re: [Latingp] character-based analysis
by Mirjana Tasić June 4, 2017

June 4, 2017

Dear Nebiye, I am not willing to do anything what does not have the expected outcome at the end. It is necessary to be clear to me and every other member of the group what is the purpose of the task “determining across 180 languages what representations of E exist” I need to understand what are you proposing to do with the data gotten as result from the quoted task. Does your vision lead to fulfillment of our task which is: a. Development Code point inclusion criteria Regards Mirjana From: Textual Solutions <textualsolutions(a)gmail.com> Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 10:43 To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Subject: Re: [Latingp] character-based analysis Mirjana, thanks for your patience and the MSR2 links, I'm trying to figure out whaat the best possible method of work would be for the group members, say you've been assigned the task of determining across 180 languages what representations of E exist and we have È - É - Ê- Ë in MSR2. So what would you do next? On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs<mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>> wrote: Dear Nebiye, I need some more clarification about the new process you are proposing. Suppose we start working as you proposed, what we shall have at the end of the whole process which will last few months. We shall have a table in which will be all 180 languages with all letters from these languages without any connection to MSR2<https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-04-27-en> . How this table can help us to finish our job? MSR2 was produced by Integration Panel. The purpose of our panel is to check weather all characters used by Latin languages are included in MSR2 and find also which characters from MSR2 should be excluded because those characters are not in everyday use. In our Proposal we promised that we shall do this as it was described in our Work Plan. We also decided to process 180 languages in the first round. Link to MSR2 is Maximal Starting Repertoire Version 2 (MSR-2) for the Development of Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone<https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-04-27-en> Latin script is defined in the following part of MSR2. MSR-2-Annotated-non-CJK-Tables-20150413<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/msr-2-non-cjk-13apr15-en.pdf> Regards Mirjana From: <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Textual Solutions <textualsolutions(a)gmail.com<mailto:textualsolutions@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 17:17 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org<mailto:latingp@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Latingp] character-based analysis thanks Mirjana and Mats for respective messages and comments, since there are 180 languages at the start and that's a big number to be looking at, even for a linguist, I suggest each member of our group should look at one character across all 180 languages and obtain/create/establish etc. the context for it. 25 May 2017 13:17 tarihinde "Mats Dufberg" <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se<mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se>> yazdı: 1. If not found we still do not know if it should be included or not. 2. We have to return to all languages for characters that we have not found elsewhere. 3. We have to investigate all characters in every language anyway to make to see if it has any combination of base character and combining mark. For every character (or combination) that we want to include we should find evidence that it is used according to the principles. To have a firm ground we should not just register for one language, but for several, in case some language is excluded at a later stage or that evidence is found to be invalid. Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899<tel:+46%2073%20065%2038%2099> https://www.iis.se/en/ From: <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Textual Solutions <textualsolutions(a)gmail.com<mailto:textualsolutions@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday 25 May 2017 at 09:21 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org<mailto:latingp@icann.org>> Subject: [Latingp] character-based analysis Dear All, Each member of the Rep. group may be invited to look at one character only across the languages listed. What do you think? Pls see sample attached and comment. Thanks. NPK

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Draft Variant Principles - Work in Progress
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis June 2, 2017

June 2, 2017

Enclosed link to Draft Variant Principles document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RNXPxAsquUJSQ5jRimMYjz3Es_sX-f1JRhi4Cbw… This is a work-in-progress, but feedback is welcome. Please use the “Suggesting” or “Comments” functions. Our next session is June 9 at 11:00 am US Eastern Time. (invitation was sent separately). Variant WG members are required. Others are welcome to participate. Thanks, Dennis

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Latin GP Variant WG - Session 2
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis June 2, 2017

June 2, 2017

When: Friday, June 09, 2017 11:00 AM-12:00 PM. (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada) Where: See notes *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* -- Do not delete or change any of the following text. -- Join me now in my Personal Room. Join WebEx meeting https://verisignmeetings.webex.com/join/dtantanaka | 733 138 704 Join from a video conferencing system or application Dial dtantanaka(a)verisignmeetings.webex.com<sip:dtantanaka@verisignmeetings.webex.com> If you are the host, you can also enter your host PIN in your video conferencing system or application to start the meeting. Join by phone 1-206-4450105 Call-in number 1-877-3614628 Call-in toll-free number Conference Code: 651 480 8570 Show global numbers<https://www.tcconline.com/offSite/OffSiteController.jpf?cc=6514808570> Can't join the meeting?<https://help.webex.com/docs/DOC-5412> IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be discoverable in a legal matter. By joining this session, you automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to being recorded, discuss your concerns with the host or do not join the session.

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