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Variants for LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DOT BELOW and friends
by Mats Dufberg Aug. 3, 2018

Aug. 3, 2018

On the conference call last night I was asked to create one email on LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DOT BELOW and friends. In this email three code points are considered: * U+045F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DZHE * U+1EF1 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH HORN AND DOT BELOW * U+1EE5 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DOT BELOW 1. In the Latin-Cyrillic variant material, a comparison is done between U+045F and U+1EF1. As I have noted U+1EE5 is even closer to U+045F, but no comparison has been done between U+045F and U+1EE5, which I now propose should be done. 2. If the workgroup decides that both comparisons should result in between-script variant pairs, then as a consequence U+1EE5 and U+1EF1 must constitute a within-script variant pair. First displayed as text in the mail: 1EF1 045F 1EE5 Times: ự џ ụ Helvetica: ự џ ụ Courier new: ự џ ụ Here as a picture: [cid:image001.png@01D42803.2604AAC0] Yours, Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/ -----Original Message----- From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of ICANN Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com> Date: Monday, 30 July 2018 at 04:57 To: "Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de" <Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de>, ICANN Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] Latin-Cyrillic cross-script analysis Latin GP, Based on Michael's and Bill's input I have resolved all the pending cases. These are highlighted as <green>include</green> or <red>excluded</red> in each of the sets. Review the comments for context as well. Please review the revised doc and provide any other comments you may have. Thanks, Dennis On 7/27/18, 11:30 AM, "Latingp on behalf of Michael Bauland" <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de> wrote: Hi all, On 26.07.2018 21:12, Bill Jouris wrote: > I have reviewed these. In several cases, I believe it is possible to > resolve the issue using the same principle: > When both inspectors have the same rating for the highest ranked font, > and the only difference is between fonts, there seems no reason to look > further. Just take the agreed highest rating (for example 2) and move on. I agree with Bill. We decided to look at several fonts in order to find more cases for possible variants (not to find less cases). Therefore it makes sense to always take the rating from the highest ranked font. In case both inspectors agree, there is nothing more to do. > I also noticed a couple of cases where the first inspector had a rating > of 5 (i.e. no candidate found) while the second inspector had something > else. Perhaps the first inspector could go back and consider the > candidate which, apparently, arose after his initial inspection. Even > if that results in a rating of 4 (different), it would at least give us > someplace to start discussion. Done. Those were my cases and I changed my original 5 to the rating referring to the newly found candidate. Furthermore I added my vote to the occasions were first and second inspector disagreed (and Bill's suggestion from above does not work). If the others could do the same, we could probably apply some majority vote. Have a nice weekend Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp

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[lgr] FW: ICANN News Alert -- Study on Technical Use of Root Zone Label Generation Rules
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 3, 2018

Aug. 3, 2018

Dear All, The scope of an ongoing study on technical use of RZ-LGR has been published for public comment. We look forward to your input on the proposed scope. See below for further details. Regards, Sarmad News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-08-02-en [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_ann…> _____ Study on Technical Use of Root Zone Label Generation Rules 2 August 2018 Open Date: 2 August 2018 Close Date: 11 September 2018 Originating Organization: Global Domains Division Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains Brief Overview: Second version of the Root Zone Label Generation Rules (RZ-LGR-2) was released in August 2017, integrating six script proposals, as other LGR script proposals are being finalized. The Root Zone Label Generation Rules Study Group (RZ-LGR-SG) has been constituted to study and make recommendations for the technical use of RZ-LGR in a harmonized way across Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Top-Level Domains (TLDs). RZ-LGR-SG has identified its scope of work [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_syste…> [PDF, 128 KB], which is being shared with the community. The SG seeks feedback from the community on whether the questions identified are all relevant for this study and whether there are any other issues it should also consider. RZ-LGR-SG will take into account the community input to finalize the scope of its work, develop the related recommendations and share these recommendations with the community before finalization. Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/technical-rz-lgr-2018-08-02-en [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2…> _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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Latin-Cyrillic cross-script analysis
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Aug. 2, 2018

Aug. 2, 2018

Latin GP, As a follow up to our meeting last week, here is the revised document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y…. However, there are still 9 cases that need to be resolve. These are the cases where there is a mixed of visual scores. Please use the comment boxes to propose a method for resolution, that is consistent with our inclusion principles. While we solve for the Latin/Cyrillic cases I will start looking at the Greek and Armenian worksheets and apply the same framework to determine inclusion/exclusion of variant candidates. Best, Dennis

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[Update agenda] Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Aug. 1, 2018

Aug. 1, 2018

Dear Latin GP members , Please find the agenda for Latin GP meeting on Thursday, August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC UPDATED AGENDA for the GP call on August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Face to face meeting in September or October- final dates 3. IP comments on repertoire – discussion • Working table https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucbOomIbJys4l4bUQyKuyrg8bP3QXFdEngxeA0d… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> • Table with code points which should be included or excluded as proposed by IP https://docs.google.com/document/d/10j6CT7j3QbVzJo_wLZ9uk4Gqx5A6sX0oxksiRIJ… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 4. Latin/Cyrillic cross-script Variants finalization https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 5. Finalization of Report with Repertoire and Variants * Finalization of the Repertoire * Checking the final Repertoire * Finalization of all variants table * Updating the references as requested by IP (Need full citations, not just URLs. Author /Org, Site name, Page name/Page title, Date published /or accessed, URL) * Ref (UCD) IP says: For UCD, the “latest” link is fine – however, you do need to give the date accessed as it will tell which version that link was pointing to – alternatively use a versioned link, and then you don’t need the date accessed, because Unicode keeps each version “frozen” once published * Production of test label file 6. Next telephone conference August the 16th , 16:00UTC 7. AOB Regards, Pitinan ---------------------------- Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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UPDATED AGENDA for the GP call on August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Aug. 1, 2018

Aug. 1, 2018

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the UPDATED Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Regards Mirjana UPDATED AGENDA for the GP call on August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Face to face meeting in September or October- final dates 3. IP comments on repertoire – discussion * Working table https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucbOomIbJys4l4bUQyKuyrg8bP3QXFdEngxeA0d… * Table with code points which should be included or excluded as proposed by IP https://docs.google.com/document/d/10j6CT7j3QbVzJo_wLZ9uk4Gqx5A6sX0oxksiRIJ… 1. Latin/Cyrillic cross-script Variants finalization https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… 1. Finalization of Report with Repertoire and Variants * Finalization of the Repertoire * Checking the final Repertoire * Finalization of all variants table * Updating the references as requested by IP (Need full citations, not just URLs. Author /Org, Site name, Page name/Page title, Date published /or accessed, URL) * Ref (UCD) IP says: For UCD, the “latest” link is fine – however, you do need to give the date accessed as it will tell which version that link was pointing to – alternatively use a versioned link, and then you don’t need the date accessed, because Unicode keeps each version “frozen” once published * Production of test label file 2. Next telephone conference August the 16th , 16:00UTC 3. AOB

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Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana July 31, 2018

July 31, 2018

Dear Latin GP members , Please find the agenda for Latin GP meeting on Thursday, August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC AGENDA for the GP call on August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Face to face meeting in September or October- final dates 3. Latin/Cyrillic cross-script Variants finalization https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 4. IP comments on repertoire - discussion on a few more comments https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucbOomIbJys4l4bUQyKuyrg8bP3QXFdEngxeA0d… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 5. Next telephone conference August the 16th 6. AOB Regards, Pitinan ---------------------------- Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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AGENDA for the GP call on August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić July 30, 2018

July 30, 2018

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Pitinan will send the remainder the day before the call. Regards Mirjana AGENDA for the GP call on August the 2nd, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Face to face meeting in September or October- final dates 3. Latin/Cyrillic cross-script Variants finalization https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… 1. IP comments on repertoire – discussion on a few more comments https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucbOomIbJys4l4bUQyKuyrg8bP3QXFdEngxeA0d… 1. Next telephone conference August the 16th 2. AOB

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[lgr] FW: ICANN News Alert -- Proposals for Devanagari, Gurmukhi, and Gujarati Scripts' Root Zone‬ Label Generation Rules
by Sarmad Hussain July 28, 2018

July 28, 2018

Dear All, We are pleased to announce that the Neo-Brahmi GP has finalized and published Root Zone LGR proposals for three scripts: Devanagari, Gurmukhi and Gujarati. See below for further details (see the complete list of proposals published here <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/lgr-proposals-2015-12-01-en> ). We look forward to the comments and feedback from the community. Regards, Sarmad News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-27-en [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_ann…> _____ Proposals for Devanagari, Gurmukhi, and Gujarati Scripts' Root Zone Label Generation Rules 27 July 2018 Open Date: 27 July 2018 Close Date: 10 September 2018 Originating Organization: Global Domains Division Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains Brief Overview: The Neo-Brahmi Script Generation Panel (NBGP) was formed by nine communities that use scripts derived from the Brahmi script. NBGP is developing Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) for Bengali, Devanagari, Gujarati, Gurmukhi, Kannada, Malayalam, Oriya, Tamil and Telugu scripts. The GP intends to publish the proposals for the LGRs of these nine scripts in three sets, releasing proposals for the scripts which share cross-script variant code points together to the extent possible. The first set includes the following: (1) Proposal for the Devanagari Script Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone, (2) Proposal for the Gurmukhi Script Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone, and (3) Proposal for the Gujarati Script Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. As per the LGR Procedure [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_syste…> , these proposals are being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the NBGP to make their views known. Based on the feedback, the NBGP will finalize each proposal for its evaluation and integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/devanagari-gurmukhi-gujarati-scripts-… [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2…> _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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Latin GP Face to Face meeting
by Sarmad Hussain July 27, 2018

July 27, 2018

Dear All, Thank you for responding. We are proceeding to start planning for the Latin GP face to face meeting in Brussels from 1-3 October (earlier dates are unfortunately clashing with an internal meeting). These dates seem to work for all those who have responded. Kindly mark these dates in our calendar. We also have limited travel support for Latin GP members to attend this meeting. If you are interested to apply for this support, kindly email to IDNProgram(a)icann.org <mailto:IDNProgram@icann.org> by 29 July 2018. In case we get more requests than we can support, we will consult with the Latin GP chair and finalize the travel support, based on active participation in the Latin GP work. Regards, Sarmad -----Original Message----- From: Latingp [mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:16 PM To: latingp(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Latingp] Latin GP Face to Face meeting Dear All, Thank you for responding. I also wanted to check if an alternate set of dates 1-3 October would also be possible. Regards, Sarmad -----Original Message----- From: Latingp [ <mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org> mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Michael Bauland Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 2:06 AM To: <mailto:latingp@icann.org> latingp(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Latingp] Latin GP Face to Face meeting Dear Sarmad, the dates are fine for me. Thanks, Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: <mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de> Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de Software Development E-mail: <mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de> Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list <mailto:Latingp@icann.org> Latingp(a)icann.org <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp

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[lgr] FW: ICANN News Alert -- Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains
by Sarmad Hussain July 26, 2018

July 26, 2018

Dear All, Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/managing-idn-variant-tlds-2018-07-25-…> have been announced for public comment. We look forward to your input. Regards, Sarmad News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-25-en [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_ann…> _____ Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains 25 July 2018 Open Date: 25 July 2018 Close Date: 3 September 2018 Originating Organization: Global Domains Division Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains Brief Overview: Recommendations for managing Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) variant labels for top level domains (TLDs) have been developed by ICANN organization. The relevant materials along with these proposed recommendations are being published to seek community feedback. The community has identified a need for IDN variant TLDs; however, the ICANN Board resolved on 25 September 2010 that "no variants of gTLDs will be delegated ... until appropriate variant management solutions are developed." Subsequent work by ICANN organization and the community led to the identification of two issues: (i) there is no accepted definition for variant TLDs, and (ii) there is no 'variant management' mechanism for TLDs. For the first issue, the Root Zone Label Generation Rules (RZ-LGR) Procedure was developed with the support of the community and adopted by the ICANN Board on 11 April 2013 for implementation. The Procedure has been implemented and RZ-LGR has been developed for six scripts, and other scripts are being added as their proposals are finalized by the relevant script communities. For the second issue, ICANN organization has undertaken a detailed examination to propose a set of recommendations for variant management mechanisms for TLDs, which will be finalized based on the community input. The finalized recommendations will be presented to the ICANN Board, anticipated in March 2019. At that time, the ICANN Board will be requested to consider these recommendations to allow for implementing IDN variant TLDs. Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/managing-idn-variant-tlds-2018-07-25-… [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2…> _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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