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12 Jul '17

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Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
by Seun Ojedeji 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

Dear all, It's good that we are seeing a lot of new members to the group. However I just like to provide some clarification on process. The work of the ROP WG started since 2014 with members joining along the way. There are a number of recommendations that the working group have drafted and that is what was presented to the ALSes during the general assembly in ZA. Those recommendations and the new one that has been proposed by Pastor Peter will all still come back to the ALSes for their consideration and approval. I am saying this so that people within AFRALO will understand the following: 1. The ultimate decision is not within the ROP WG but for the entire ALSes within AFRALO. 2. Whatever the working group come out with is a draft that will still come back here to the larger group for consideration. 3. There are a number of recommendation that the working group is discussing and that of "term limits" that has just been proposed is just one of them. 4. The work of the working group is open and can be followed on the wiki even if you are not a member of the group, you are free to provide your comments on the wiki: https://community.icann.org/m/mobile.action#page/48350515 Regards On Jul 5, 2017 10:08 AM, "Roger Oteng Baah" <roger.baah(a)gmail.com> wrote: I think we need the full complement of this house to debate this, so the group should be open to all. Regards, Roger Baah On Jul 5, 2017 8:34 AM, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I think this working group must remain open to all because it is virtually all members who are intersted. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden(a)gmail.com>: > Dear Abiola, > > Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is > a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. > Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. > I am now getting confused. > > That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get > solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue > in this same spirit. > > I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure > working group, which you are all invited to join. > > Thank you, > > Sarah > > > On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < > afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > >> I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a >> well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues >> contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first >> place, which could prove valuable going forwards. >> >> AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in >> Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more >> transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes >> we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all. >> >> Regards, >> Adetokunbo Abiola >> Nigerian Internet Users Coalition >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe(a)gmail.com> >> >> *To:* NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders(a)yahoo.com> >> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>; " >> victor.ciza(a)gmail.com" <victor.ciza(a)gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG < >> afralo-rop(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce < >> alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon < >> petersomoragbon2(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55 >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF >> PROCEDURE IN AFRALO >> ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is? >> >> 1. Are these leadership positions? >> 2. Are these people problems? >> 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? >> 4. Is this the length of representation? >> >> In short, what are the real concerns? >> >> Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been >> disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures >> of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards. >> >> Can we understand that there are special arrangements? >> >> This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first >> appeared, which seemed embarrassing. >> >> However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, >> dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of >> democratic values, always listening to others. >> >> We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective >> countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN. >> >> We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while >> remaining united. >> >> FRANCAIS >> >> Bonjour à tous, >> >> En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le >> véritable problème? >> >> 1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? >> 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? >> 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? >> 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation? >> >> Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations? >> >> Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été >> contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des >> textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises. >> >> Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers? >> >> Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats >> de cette situation qui semble embarrassante. >> >> Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes >> ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins >> d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs >> démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres. >> >> Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans >> leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN. >> >> Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que >> quantitative tout en restant unis. >> >> 2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < >> afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>: >> >> Dear Silvia, >> Hope this meets you well? >> Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS >> Mailing list for their information. >> I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there >> appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels >> to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the >> disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed >> and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. >> Thanking you for your assistance >> Best >> >> >> Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of >> Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders >> Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- >> DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable >> Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate >> Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and >> Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal >> Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in >> NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with >> the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for >> Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- >> CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. >> com <nursesacrosstheborders(a)yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2(a)yahoo.co.uk, >> www.nursesacrosstheborders.org >> >> >> ______________________________ _________________ >> >> >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org >> <AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss >> <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss> >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this >> list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ >> mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 >> <http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#…> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE >> +243813684512 <0813%20684%20512> >> +243998983491 <0998%20983%20491> >> SKYPE ID: b.schombe >> twitter: @akimambo >> blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this >> list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistic >> a/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#anexo1 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this >> list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistic >> a/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#anexo1 > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 <+243%20813%20684%20512> +243998983491 <+243%20998%20983%20491> SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistic a/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#anexo1 _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1

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MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
by NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders(a)yahoo.com, petersomoragbon2(a)yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org

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Re: [AFRI-Discuss] [afralo-rop] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
by Alan Greenberg 02 Jul '17

02 Jul '17

LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is). Alan At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote: >Hello Alan, > >As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC >term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit. > >Regards > >On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" ><<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>seun.ojedeji(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hello Alan, >I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there >isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. >Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which >addresses my doubt on that part. >Regards >On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote: > >3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own >rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's >something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 >terms limit may be appropriate as well. > > >To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits >for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms >(I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. >Alan

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