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Registered and faltantes ALS in the directory
by wdf1＠hotmail.com Sept. 25, 2009

Sept. 25, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Registered and faltantes ALS in the directory From: wdf1(a)hotmail.com Hello to all: In the list of ALS, http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/applications?filter0=160 the name of JCI Ecuador does not consist either, member certified from year 2003, please if somebody can includeto us. Warm greetings Wladimir Dávalos JCI Ecuador _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about AT Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/861a017e70.html --]]

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REMINDER / LACRALO Teleconference Today at 2100 UTC
by At-Large Staff Aug. 19, 2009

Aug. 19, 2009

Dear All, We would like to remind you that the next teleconference of the LACRALO will be held today, Thursday, April 16 at 21:00 UTC. You can find the draft agenda and instructions for participating in the call at: https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?16_april_2009 If you need a dial-out, please kindly inform At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Regards, ------------------ Estimado/a Señor/a, Por la presente, le recordamos que la próxima teleconferencia de la LACRALO tendrá lugar, hoy, el jueves, 16 de abril a las 21:00 horas UTC . Encontrará la versión preliminar de la agenda y otros particulares en: https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?16_april_2009 Si necesitan que le llamemos y no figura ya en la lista de personas a llamar, por favor tenga a bien avisarnos en at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Atentamente, Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Digital Barbarism - A push back against changes in Copyright Law occasioned by the Internet
by Carlton Samuels July 1, 2009

July 1, 2009

You might find this article of interest. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/books/review/Douthat-t.html?8bu&emc=bua2 Carlton

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] Presidential Rumour?
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr June 25, 2009

June 25, 2009

Any one who follows my tweets would also know I had a 'formal' introduction / meeting with him yesterday morning ;-) BTW if you want my totally biased view => then it is "so far so good" and he has a Huge Thumbs Up from me based on that interaction and what I've searched out, watched and heard so far... So if/when this important appointment is confirmed his week, then we certainly will be in a time of transition with a leader well equipped to deal with those challenges *and* who understands ICANN's needs for Transparency Openness (as opposed to Open(m)ess but he does understand both our concerns and needs for both Internationalization as well as Regionalization as far as I can ascertain.... I'm also sure he will be happy to meet with/ engage with our Community(ies) at the earliest possible time... CLO 2009/6/25 Patrick Vande Walle <patrick(a)vande-walle.eu> > Oh yes. I can confirm this gentleman has been here in Sydney for the > whole week with an ICANN staff badge, but we are still waiting for a > official announcement. > > Patrick > > Carlton Samuels wrote, On 25/6/09 01:14: > > See the story at : > > > http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20090619_9794.php?oref=rss?zone=itsecurity > > > > Carlton Samuels > > _______________________________________________ > > At-Large mailing list > > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > -- > Patrick Vande Walle > Blog: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickvw > > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > -- Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)

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Presidential Rumour?
by Carlton Samuels June 24, 2009

June 24, 2009

See the story at : http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20090619_9794.php?oref=rss?zone=itsecurity Carlton Samuels

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today to 00:00 of Brazil/remote participation ICANN Sydney
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org June 21, 2009

June 21, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: today to 00:00 of Brazil/remote participation ICANN Sydney From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Remote Participation: Today to 21 UTC with translation synchronizes the Spanish http://syd.icann.org/node/4096 Agenda (Spanish): * Overhaul of the calendar of the events for Sydney * Delegation of people to take care of the meetings that <http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rR14MvgC2QlggbywdGnKdMw&output=html> they are not of the AT-Large * Discussion on the topics discussed during the meeting in common AC/SO: http://syd.icann.org/node/3808 <http://syd.icann.org/3808> I WAIT FOR THEM! Sylvia Herlein Leite Brazil Internaut [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/640ffcaa0a.html --]]

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Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Internauta_Chile_apoya_declaraci = ón=È =
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com June 21, 2009

June 21, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Internauta_Chile_apoya_declaraci = =?iso-8859-1?q?=F3n=È = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Thanks Daniel, I took the "audacity" to express that in LACRALO there was consensus respect to this support, and I showed to the own Kevin Wilson to it and ALAC. Also the position was reflected that was spilled in this ready respect to the necessity of not being always involved in discussions of Policy of Trips, because he is something inwhich all we also agreed, some with greater emphasis. Greetings and thanks for your contribution. Andrés > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:43:37 -0300 > From: danielmonastersky(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Chile Internaut supports declaration. > > the IIISI support the document proposed by Chery Langdon. > > atte, > > Daniel Monastersky > IIISI Rep > > the 20 of June of 2009 23:20, Javier Red Chandía - President Internauta > Chile <presidente(a)internautachile.cl> he wrote: > > > Chile Internaut supports the document proposed by the president of Alac, > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr, related to the support of support of trips stops > > > > voluntary members of ALAC. > > > > Atte., > > > > Javier Red Chandía > > Chile Internaut > Registered > ALS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Stay up to dates on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows > > Live > > > http://clk! .atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > > icann.org > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacral! o.org > > > > > > ___________________________________! ________ ____ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org _________________________________________________________________ Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_5gb_11… _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/a94cf09299.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?la_participaci=F3n_remota_FUNCION = =?iso-8859-1?q?A =
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx June 21, 2009

June 21, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?la_participaci=F3n_remota_FUNCION = =?iso-8859-1?q?A = From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Andrés, all, the key is not to suppose anything: nonsupposition that "somebody" is happening more review of the meeting. In the subject of vertical separation, the node that I sent contains aleague a a simple but very ilustrativo PPT. It is an axial subject, that lawyers, economists know the colleagues well (, mainly) dedicated to subjects of competition and monopolies. Hopefully they are united a the discussion and illuminates to us with good explanations, adapted to this market or no. More warm greetings to all. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 ---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:08:09 +0000 > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com> > To: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx, sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ iso-8859-1 ] RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] the remote participation WORKS! > > > > Alexander, you are right with respect to the effort to canalize the voice. Some we have tried it at certain moments but it has not been sufficient. > Respect to the thematic one that you name, in individual I must admit that it needs to me to be more soaked in this question to think. > > Respect to the Highlights of the Meeting, apparently while we were yesterday in a complete agenda of ALAC, was much action in theGAC and I have only read the commentaries and twitts on the proposal of the New Governments in gTLD, that can at least be described as "worrisome". When it can I will send more information on this subject to the today same list. > > Greetings to all, > > Andrés Piazza > President of L! ACRALO > > > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:56:08 +0000 > > From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] the remote participation WORKS! > > > > Hello, > > > > me one to the commentary of Sylvia. With a little pushes it even obtains one > > that some comeasured core (or convinced) reads to the public one presents/displays > > commentaries emitted in writing. > > > > Sugiero present them delivers a special attack to canalizethe voice > > of those who we are not there. > > > > Atraigo its attention the session http://syd.icann.org/node/4237/ in which > > will discuss the proposal to begin to reduce the obligatory separation > > vertical between "registries" and "registrars", that was one of the landmarks in > > original history of ICANN, key in the creation of a marketopened of > > names of dominion, and reason for a ph! enomenal one, hardest battle between > > ICANN and Solution! s/Verisi gn Network. > > > > the "Chinese wall" that we constructed then is being questioned now. > > > > According to the announced thing, Joe Sims, a formidable lawyer and polemicist, > > will be leading this pánel. It is not necessary to lose it to it. > > > > Ah, the implication for ALAC and specially LACRALO: this separation is > > key of the market that interests to all, in the generic dominions, and has > > transferred to many ccTLDs. If ICANN puts reversa, many ccTLDs > > can find just to revert the separation and those that are no it > > done... never will do it. > > > > Subject of discussion, without trivial solutions - that is, a good subject. > > > > Warm greeting. > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > >! > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > ---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, sylvia-internautabrasil wrote: > > > > > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:41:24 -0300 > > > From: sylvia-internautabrasil <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> > > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] the remote participation WORKS! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Compañeros of LACRALO: > > > > > > I had the opportunity Yesterday to verify that the remote participation works and > > > works very well! > > > > > > Participe' in the meetin! g of Alac! There was translation synchronizes the Spanish; > &! gt; > > > > and I was not single, also were Javier Chandia de Internauta Chile, > > > Omar Kaminski of Brazil. > > > > > > Today also I think to participate. > > > > > > goes the Link with all the programming Here: http://syd.icann.org/full-sched > > > > > > Today in special will be a section to know how ICANN works, and will have > > > translation to the Spanish: http://syd.icann.org/node/3767 > > > > > > a hug to all > > > > > > Sylvia Leite > > > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay up to dates on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phonewith Live Windows > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/e123e72615.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?la_participaci=F3n_remota_FUNCION = =?iso-8859-1?q?A =
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com June 21, 2009

June 21, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?la_participaci=F3n_remota_FUNCION = =?iso-8859-1?q?A = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Exact, which was good of is that not only twitteabamos and blogeabamos yesterday those that estabamos here in Sydney but also whoparticipated remotely (like you, mainly). For example, Javier Chandía transmitted live for one radio of Coquimbo the audio one of the meeting. Respect to the subjects, has been able to read repercussions of yesterday in: - the discussion of the JPA, something that mainly discussed in ALAC and the channel of skype, I recommend to them that they can read the contributions and the vision of Alexander that debated among others with Evan Leibobitch (ICANN is not is transparent it that had, ok, that justifies that it follows put under a superior control? Or the value that would have to prioritize would be the one of the autonomy).I agree with the opinion of Alexander in this subject. - Soon, another aspect that called the attention was the one of the ITR. Carlos Aguirre had an interesting participation in the discussionof this subject and also expresandose. are voices of the NCUC http://konstantinoskomaitis.blogspot.com/2009/06/statement-on-irt-recommend… Komaitis of Greece posteó in his blog and @robingross isexpressed permanently on the subject in Twitter. Greetings, Andrés Piazza President of LACRALO > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:59:44 +0000 > From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > To: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com > CC: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] the remote participation WORKS! > > Andrés, > > also me one to this note yours. > > Today, if they can, would be very useful that who are there distributes in > sessions of greater interest and are to us blogueando, twitteando, skypeando, > etc., which happens and it says - and what it is not seen from so far, as > attention that surely will attract the candidates and suspects for > change of mail. > > Alx > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedi! n.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > ---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:01:35 +0000 > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com> > > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] the remote participation WORKS! > > > > > > > > Exact, Sylvia. You won to me of hand! > > Of LACRALO was also Alexander Pisanty, during great part of the day, and at some moments we counted on the presence of Fátima Cambronero, AGEIA DENSI, in addition to some other Latin American members that (still) do not participate in LACRALO. > > > > Is good signals of interest from our group, we must deepenthem. > > > > Greetings and I hope that they can be added to the today agenda. > > ! > > Andrés Piazza > > President of LACRALO > > > >! > Fr om: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:41:24 -0300 > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] the remote participation WORKS! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Compañeros of LACRALO: > > > > > > I had the opportunity Yesterday to verify that the remote participation works and > > > works very well! > > > > > > Participe' in the meeting of Alac! There was translationsynchronizes the Spanish; > > > > > > and I was not single, also were Javier Chandia de Internauta Chile, > > > Omar Kaminski of Brazil. > > > > > > Today also I think to participate. > > > > > > goes the Link with all the programming Here: http://syd.icann.org/full-sched > > > > > > Today in special will be a section to know how ICANN works, and will have > > > translation to the Spanish: http://syd.icann.org/node/3767 > &gt! ; > > > > a hug to all > > > > > > Sylvia Leite > > > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > for Color coding safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. > > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety… > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _________________________________________________________________ For color coding safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety… _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/bf27473476.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?la_participaci=F3n_remota_FUNCION = =?iso-8859-1?q?A =
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com June 21, 2009

June 21, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?la_participaci=F3n_remota_FUNCION = =?iso-8859-1?q?A = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Alexander, you are right with respect to the effort to canalizethe voice. Some we have tried it at certain moments but it has not been sufficient. Respect to the thematic one that you name, in individual I must admit that it needs to me to be more soaked in this question to think. Respect to the Highlights of the Meeting, apparently while we were yesterday in a complete agenda of ALAC, was much action in the GAC andI have only read the commentaries and twitts on the proposal of the New Governments in gTLD, that can at least be described as "worrisome". When it can I will send more information on this subject to the today same list. Greetings to all, Andrés Piazza President of LACRALO > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:56:08 +0000 > From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] the remote participation WORKS! > > Hello, > > me one to the commentary of Sylvia. With a little pushes it even obtains one > that some comeasured core (or convinced) reads to the publicone presents/displays > commentaries emitted in writing. > > Sugiero present them delivers a special attack to canalize the voice > of those who we are not there. > > Atraigo its attention the session http://syd.icann.org/node/4237/ in which > will discuss the proposal to begin to reduce the obligatory separation > vertical between "registries" and "registrars", that was oneof the landmarks in > original history of ICANN, key in the creation of a market opened of > names of dominion, and reason for a phenomenal one, hardest battle between > ICANN and Solutions/Verisign Network. > > the "Chinese wal! l" that we constructed then is being questioned now. > > According to the announced thing, Joe Sims, a formidable lawyer and polemicist, > will be leading this pánel. It is not necessary to lose it to it. > > Ah, the implication for ALAC and specially LACRALO: this separation is > key of the market that interests to all, in the generic dominions, and has > transferred to many ccTLDs. If ICANN puts reversa, many ccTLDs > can find just to revert the separation and those that are noit > fact... never will do it. > > Subject of discussion, without trivial solutions - that is, a good subject. > > Warm greeting. > > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, ! http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > ---->&! gt; Unet e to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, sylvia-internautabrasil wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:41:24 -0300 > > From: sylvia-internautabrasil <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] the remote participation WORKS! > > > > > > > > Dear Compañeros of LACRALO: > > > > I had the opportunity Yesterday to verify that the remote participation works and > > works very well! > > > > Participe' in the meeting of Alac! There was translation synchronizes the Spanish; > > > > and I was not single, also were Javier Chandia de Internauta Chile, > > Omar Kaminski of Brazil. > > > > Today also I think to participate. > > > > goes the Link with all the programming Here: http://syd.icann.org/full-sched > > > > Today ! in special will be a section to know how ICANN works, and will have > > translation to the Spanish: http://syd.icann.org/node/3767 > > > > a hug to all > > > > Sylvia Leite > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to dates on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Live Windows http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/9c653d8b4a.html --]]

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