August 2011 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] LACRALO Teleconference postponed to Thursday April 28 2011
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Sept. 30, 2011

Sept. 30, 2011

Dear All, Due to Thursday April 21 2011 being a holiday in many countries in the region and that many persons have stated that they will not be able to attend the call, the LACRALO conference call is tentatively rescheduled to Thursday 28 April 2011 at 2100 UTC. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Marilyn Vernon <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: > Dear All, > > The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 21 April at 21:00 > UTC. > > You may check your local time at: > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20110421T21 > > The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: > https://community.icann.org/x/s4PT > > > If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>. > > > -- > Regards, > > Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon > ICANN At-Large Staff > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >

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by Vanda UOL Sept. 1, 2011

Sept. 1, 2011

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by vanda＠uol.com.br Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

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Fwd: Bottom Up Action Procedure - Discussion from NARALO
by Carlton Samuels Aug. 25, 2011

Aug. 25, 2011

I hope my NARALO friends will not mind that I have taken the liberty to forward part of an interesting discussion from their list here. There are some lessons to be learnt. After 5 years of existence, LACRALO does not understand what is meant by "consensus". We also have seen multiple demonstrations of widespread ignorance of our foundation documents, especially the LACRALO RoP. I am now of the view that in both instances, we are unlikely to see progress anytime soon. Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= 1. Re: Bottom Up Action Procedure (Thompson, Darlene) 2. Re: Bottom Up Action Procedure (Evan Leibovitch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:35:04 +0000 From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1(a)GOV.NU.CA> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Bottom Up Action Procedure To: "'Evan Leibovitch'" <evan(a)telly.org>, "ebw(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net" <ebw(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net> Cc: "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> For the consideration of the term ?consensus?, I would suggest we go with the terms of our Operating Procedures which define what that means in the NARALO context: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2264679/NA-2007-1-1rev1+NA… D From: evanleibovitch(a)gmail.com [mailto:evanleibovitch@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Evan Leibovitch Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:20 PM A few comments > Once consensus is achieved, What kind of consensus? Are there no issues for which voting is appropriate? Who is a consensus-capable contributor? I can think of no issue -- outside of elections -- for which voting is preferable to consensus in the NARALO/ICANN context. Consensus has worked to ensure that, whenever possible, minority views are accommodated rather than just rolled over by majority vote. The ability to use consensus for so much indicates a level of professionalism and maturity that indicates willingness to compromise and work together in a way that I consider preferable to confrontational votes in almost every circumstances. Contrast our workings to, for instance, LACRALO, where even small details can be subject to meticulous and hotly contested votes. I can't speak for Beau, but IMO (and when I was chair) *every* contributor is "consensus capable". The process rewards participation and awareness. This process was even surprisingly resilient to attempts at trolling and gaming. It is an organically-developed process of which our region should rightfully be proud. > the Chair requests that the ALAC discuss the matter. For those NARALO originating issues which concern one or more other RALOs, in principal, though the coordination could be direct, and therefore not involve any non-elected person, and also not depend upon a process model that may frustrate the purpose of RALO-to-RALO communications. The Chair (or any other member of NARALO for that matter) is able to raise an issue in the At-Large mailing lists. There are no restrictions as to who may raise an issue -- an ALS rep or individual member who may be frustrated by regional leadership's unwillingness/inability to escalate an issue is *always* welcomed to take it direct. Freedom to speak does not guarantee you'll get listened to, and regional support is of course an asset, but the forum is open and any ICANN-relevant issue is fair game. For those NARALO originating issues which do not concern one or more other RALOs, reference to ALAC is optional, not manditory. > Discussions and spearheading of the matter at the ALAC level should be promoted by the region's duly elected ALAC representatives. Agree. With the proviso that the elected representatives may be instructed where the elected representatives do not support the NARALO issue in question, or alternatively, that we come up with a proxy exception to the process so that its general purpose in electing its representatives does not prevent its specific purpose in refering a NARALO originating issue to a body to which it elects representatives. In my experience, the issue is rarely that the elected ALAC reps are *against* the NARALO position -- indeed, one would suppose that they're part of the consensus behind the position. The problem as I see it -- that was the case in the matter that caused this issue to be raised -- is that the elected reps may lack the expertise and/or passion to give the issue the advocacy it deserves. Years before I became an ALAC member I routinely attended ALAC meetings in a non-voting capacity, to advance issues I believed important. I worked to get them on the core agenda (rather than tacked on at the end as Any Other Business) by asking the ALAC Chair directly. I would be invited to the part of the meeting discussing the issue, advance the point and answer questions, then leave the call after the issue had been acted upon. This can be done by ANY NARALO member, not just the Chair -- though, again, having regional support certainly helps advance the cause. Am I trying to deflect responsibility in my role as elected ALAC rep? I can only offer in my defence that I am already overwhelmed with region-neutral issues such as applicant support and broader issues related to the gTLD program and ICANN Future Challenges. I have a limited amount of cycles and am more than happy to work with advocates of NARALO issues to help them advance these issues ALAC-wide. But I can't always do it myself. The people who advance an issue through NARALO consensus should also be ready to themselves help advance the issue globally. It is not shirking responsibility to state accurately that someone with passion and expertise on pre-registration (for instance), who has driven the issue at NARALO, can make the case for action at ALAC far better than Gareth or I can. There were also some communications issues, as Gareth thought -- and I can fully understand how -- that the issue had not received closure at NARALO. Olivier mis-characterized the weariness of Gareth and me at the end of the last ALAC meeting as "lack of support" (and said so in a followup). Support take many forms, and sometimes that support means working with others rather than "going it alone" on issues on which I claim little expertise. Much work needs to be and there are very few people carrying the load. - Evan ------------------------------

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translation software
by kent Aug. 25, 2011

Aug. 25, 2011

My apologies for the recent non-functioning state of the automatic list translation software. By an unfortunate coincidence, Google's translation interface stopped working at about the same time that I updated the software to make the changes mentioned in my note of August 2. (Google had announced earlier that this could happen at any time.) It took a while to convince myself that the failures weren't simply a flaw in the code. But ultimately I backed out all the changes I had made, and the failure continued. It seems unlikely that Google will completely abandon the work they did in this area, so one might expect that a different (possibly commercial) implementation will be available presently. However there are of course no guarantees. In the meantime I have modified the code to use the old Alta Vista "babelfish" interface, to at least get some functionality back on line. As always, please don't hesitate to contact me, David Closson, or "tech-support(a)icann.org" if you experience problems. Best Regards Kent

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by goldstein.roxana＠gmail.com Aug. 24, 2011

Aug. 24, 2011

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by natalia.enciso＠gmail.com Aug. 24, 2011

Aug. 24, 2011

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] RES: Llamada para los candidatos al representante de LACRALO a ALAC a partir de 2011-2013
by Fatima Cambronero Aug. 23, 2011

Aug. 23, 2011

Estimados, Quisiera apoyar la nominación de Natalia Enciso de APADIT, Paraguay, realizada por Sylvia para sucederla como miembro de ALAC por nuestra región. Considero que Natalia está capacitada para desempeñarse en esta posición ya que habiendo sido Fellow de ICANN en tres oportunidades conoce los procesos internos de ICANN, y participa desde hace tiempo en LACRALO. También acuerdo con Sylvia en que Natalia es una persona muy comprometida con nuestra región, quien trabaja por la integración, con respeto a las personas y a los procesos. Me parece una buena oportunidad para seguir comprometiéndonos con la diversidad regional y de género, de las que tanto hablamos en ICANN. Saludos cordiales, Fatima El 23 de agosto de 2011 12:04, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> escribió: > Estimados compañeros de LACRALO: > Quisiera proponer a Natalia Enciso de APADIT de Paraguay, como candidata a > representante LACRALO ante ALAC 2011-2013. > Creo firmemente que es la candidata ideal para ocupar este puesto debido > que > conoce los procesos de ICANN por haber participado 3 veces del programa > Fellowship, y ha viajado por su cuenta al meeting de Cartagena; y > aprovechando esas oportunidades participó en varias reuniones de ALAC. > Está muy comprometida con la región y ya es muy conocida y respetada por > muchas ALSs de LACRALO. Además, Natalia tiene un CV muy relacionado al > mundo > de Internet. > Sin más, > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO ALAC Member 2009-2011 > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de > devtee(a)gmail.com > Enviada em: miércoles, 17 de agosto de 2011 21:54 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: [lac-discuss-es] Llamada para los candidatos al representante de > LACRALO a ALAC a partir de 2011-2013 > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Tema: Llamada para los candidatos al representante de LACRALO a ALAC a > partir de 2011-2013 > De: devtee(a)gmail.com > > estimado todos, > > > LACRALO tiene que elegir a un representante para servir en en el comité > consultivo grande (ALAC) para un principio de término en el final del > octubre de 2011 ICANN que se encuentra a los 2013 ICANN' reunión > general anual de s. > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite del Brasil ha servido como nuestro representante de > ALAC > a partir la 2009 a 2011 y no puede ser reelegida para un segundo término > según la regla 9 <del tbNL> de nuestros principios de funcionamiento de > LACRALO > > > según la regla 8 de los principios de funcionamiento de LACRALO > ( https://community.icann.org/x/Oo0i) > > > * los representantes seleccionados sea un miembro de un ALS acreditado; y > * tenga su domicilio principal en un país de la región de LACRALO > ;y > * no puede estar de la misma nacionalidad que los representantes > regionales > de la sentada ALAC > (esto excluye a candidatos de la Argentina y de Jamaica) > ; y > * necesidades de entender y de respetar las obligaciones y las > responsabilidades > de los miembros de ALAC (véase que https://community.icann.org/x/HoMi > https://community.icann.org/x/roYi) > > > el plazo para la sumisión de los nombramientos a servir en ALAC es > el 31 de agosto de 2011 y los candidatos deben aceptar sus nombramientos > por > el 2 de septiembre de 2011. > > > la llamada de la teleconferencia de A LACRALO con los candidatos se puede > llevar a cabo durante la semana <del tbNL> de del 5 de septiembre al 9 de > septiembre de 2011. El intento de tal llamada de la teleconferencia de a > está para una discusiÃ³n cordial por las preguntas de contestaciÃ³n de los > candidatos > de LACRALO, y el quÃ© hacer frente de las ediciones relacionadas de ICANN > At-Large sea importante para los candidatos. > > > aceptÃ³ a candidatos debe preparar una letra del interÃ©s para esta > audioconferencia <del tbNL>.Esto debe ser una breve biografÃa, quÃ© usted > hace y porquÃ© > usted estÃ¡ interesado en la porciÃ³n > como el representante de LACRALO a ALAC. Tales letras del interÃ©s > se fijen al wiki de LACRALO. > > > despuÃ©s de la teleconferencia, el voto para elegir a un representante de > ALAC > de la lista de candidatos ocurrirÃ¡. Al principio del perÃodo de > votaciÃ³n > <del tbNL>, cada ALS en LACRALO se envÃa por correo electrÃ³nico > instrucciones especÃficas y Web site de a > de ir a someter su voto. > > > en el final del perÃodo de votaciÃ³n, los votos se marcan segÃºn la regla > 12.9 del dispositivo de protecciÃ³n en caso de volcamiento (cada voto se > carga con un coeficiente del paÃs), > y los resultados del voto, incluyendo los votos emitidos y por cuÃ¡les > presentan el votante <del tbNL> a todo el LACRALO, segÃºn la regla de > gobierno de la regla 20 > 12.4. > > > > > relacionÃ³ acoplamientos: > > > elecciÃ³n 2011 de LACRALO del representante de LACRALO a ALAC para > 2011-2013: > https://community.icann.org/x/CgBsAQ > > > fondo en representantes de LACRALO: > https://community.icann.org/x/LwBu > > > documentos de organizaciÃ³n de LACRALO: > https://community.icann.org/x/Oo0i > > > ---- > atentamente, > > > _____________________________________________ de la secretarÃa del > revelador Anand Teelucksingh > LACRALO > > > > > [[--Original text (en) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4af143479f.html > --]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > -- *Fatima Cambronero* Abogada-Argentina Directora de Investigaciones *AGEIA DENSI Argentina* http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ *@facambronero* *Join the LACRALO/ICANN discussions:* https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Buenas Noticias/ Good News
by Carlton Samuels Aug. 23, 2011

Aug. 23, 2011

Congrats to Vanda on her appoint as liaison from SSAC to NomCom. An excellent choice and a deserved recognition of Vanda's tireless work in ICANN policy development. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN Academy Draft Proposal
by cveraq＠gmail.com Aug. 22, 2011

Aug. 22, 2011

In line with LAcRALO's proposal En linea con las propuestas en LACRALO Carlos VQ Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro -----Original Message----- From: cveraq(a)gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:27:23 To: ICANN At-Large Staff<staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Reply-To: cveraq(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN Academy Draft Proposal Very interesting! I like this proposal Carlos Vera Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro -----Original Message----- From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Sender: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:58:00 To: ALAC Announce<alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff<staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN Academy Draft Proposal Dear All, The ICANN Academy Draft Proposal has been uploaded to the community wiki: <https://community.icann.org/x/XgBsAQ<https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/ICANN+Academy+Proposal>>. Please be advised that the ICANN Academy Draft Proposal will be discussed on tomorrow's ALAC Monthly Teleconference. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC-Announce mailing list ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org

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