February 2015 - lac-discuss-en

New ALS Application received
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Oct. 2, 2015

Oct. 2, 2015

Dear all, This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from the Association Haitienne des Internautes. It is based in Haiti, and would be a member of LACRALO if accepted. Please find the application form in French attached. The EN translation will be posted upon receipt. Staff are preparing the Due Diligence. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge Twitter: @ICANN_AtLarge

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality
by aidanoblia＠gmail.com Feb. 28, 2015

Feb. 28, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Net Neutrality From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com Very interesting topic, especially for the region. Whether or not this is not the scope. I would like to at least be aware of the reflections if change of scope. Regards On February 27, 2015, 0:25, Len Felipe Sanchez Amba < leonfelipe(a)sanchez.mx> wrote: > Hola Alberto, > > Sin duda a primera vista parece positivo. Yo quiero ser más cauteloso y > esperar a que salga el texto completo de la resolución para poder > analizarlo con detalle y ver que posibles implicaciones puede tener en > diversos aspectos. > > Por ejemplo me preocupa que al clasificarse como un bien público, el > Estado pueda reclamar y ejercer rectoría sobre el mismo. Si es un Estado > democrático y con principios, tal vez no sea grave. Si es un régimen > autoritario y que no respeta los derechos humanos, cambia la visión. > > Una de las preguntas que yo me formularía es ¿Con esta nueva clasificación > que se hizo las comunicaciones serán más propensas a espionaje por parte de > agencias como la NSA? No lo se. Justo ahí la cautela de no festejar antes > de tiempo hasta no tener los detalles del caso. > > En el caso de México, por citar un escenario paralelo, el Estado en un > momento dado podría tomar control de la infraestructura de > telecomunicaciones (por ser pública) y controlar, bajo la justificación de > seguridad nacional, las comunicaciones sin que hubiera recurso que > protegiera a los ciudadanos en contra de abusos. Nuevamente reflexiono. En > un Estado respetuoso de los derechos humanos, el Estado bien puede > controlar la infraestructura y el flujo de las comunicaciones sin que la > ciudadanía tuviera (mucho) de que preocuparse. Pero en un Estado donde el > respeto a los derechos humanos es laxo, por ponerlo de alguna manera, la > preocupación debería ser mayúscula. > > Creo que el tema dará para mucho análisis, reflexión y discusión en los > meses por venir. > > Gracias por acercarnos la nota! > > > Saludos, > > > > León > > > El 26/02/2015, a las 19:52, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> > escribió: > > > > Es una medida que ojalá prospere y sea ejemplo para los gobiernos de > nuestra > > Región: > > > > > > > > http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H > > > > > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > --- > > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > > http://www.avast.com > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > Aida Noblia _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/de81db722b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Tracking: weighted vote to ICANN GAC
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Feb. 28, 2015

Feb. 28, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Tracking: weighted vote to ICANN GAC From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Hope is confirmed. But there was significant opposition, seen on Los Angeles. Fadi also what recibidirectamente .... Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alejandro Pisanty Posted on: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:00 pm To: LACRALO Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Track: weighted vote to ICANN GAC Colleagues, this note http://domainincite.com/18052-icann-ditches-plan-to-give-governments-more-po wer indicates that a change of policy by ICANN on the recommendations of GAC estsiguiendo the way LACRALO and many others recommend in its time. Clearly there is cyclical and structural factors in favor weight This new way, but it is also likely that the extent oposicina contributed original. Ojalalguien with informacinms near the origin can help understand the subject (starting with an official confirmation of the news). Best regards. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM University Av 3000. 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9b8ec6818c.html --]]

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Tracking: weighted vote to ICANN GAC
by apisanty＠gmail.com Feb. 28, 2015

Feb. 28, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Tracking: weighted vote to ICANN GAC From: apisanty(a)gmail.com Colleagues, this note http://domainincite.com/18052-icann-ditches-plan-to-give-governments-more-p… indicates that a change in ICANN policy regarding recommendations GAC estsiguiendo the way LACRALO and many others recommend in time. Clearly there is cyclical and structural factors in favor weight This new way, but it is also likely that the extent oposicina contributed original. Ojalalguien with informacinms near the origin can help understand the subject (starting with an official confirmation of the news). Best regards. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bea4251337.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality
by apisan＠unam.mx Feb. 27, 2015

Feb. 27, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Net Neutrality From: apisan(a)unam.mx Sergio, This analysis is very interesting, not least because the arguments of a government ISP, a government that many understand anticapitalist, coincide with those of the US and European telcos. I have a first question about your text: Google, Netflix, Facebook, biuscadores ,, generators, distributors of content, social networking, etc., "do not pay a penny" by networks? Is that true? (Advance if someone suggested to take the discussion off LACRALO not be suitable forum ste ms estaratento the argument). Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM University Av 3000. 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio Bronstein [bronstein.sergio(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:06 To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality Buenos das tod @ s It is absolutely true that our obligation as representatives of users is defending the right of free use of internet, but I risk to disagree on the concept of neutrality as estpensando today. I go to the concrete.Today, telco operators are investing networks on passing the content that users should have free access. Any study that is reviewed, demostrarque curve investments (fixed networks, mobile, equipment and software) that These companies make their networks (which must withstand every day ms transfer large files) estcerca to meet the revenue curve; in short, the "business" of the telco, such as esthoy, no sotiene. Meanwhile, there is a group of companies (search engines, generators, content distributors, social networks, etc., each das ms concentrated and powerful, who make it their business to travs networks by which do not pay a penny. Questions from users optics are then: 1. Who pagarpor networks in the future? The states? We must stop states say how much, when, where, what, a quin conectarny with qutarifas? 2.We must deliver operational and network expansion by the Google, Facebook, Netflix? And if it happens again ask to quin conectarna customers or users, they can pay or not. 3. Does Netflix and similar no charge for download content but not collaborate in the development of networks? how actuarn when adueen the operators? Our main lines of work should remain inclusion in its broader sense (ie, connectivity and knowledge for use), besides Free access and circulation of information, and in this sense, the question it will be: 4. New dueos of garantizarn networks that happen, or privilegiarna customers before users? I think if we do not have clear answers to these questions, our must be vigilant, lest it be that a small group of corporations business is to decide on our rights and freedoms. I leave for discussion, which ojalse of. Greetings to everyone s, Sergio Bronstein President Internauta Venezuela On 02/26/2015 21:21, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> i wrote: > Es una medida que ojalá prospere y sea ejemplo para los gobiernos de > nuestra > Región: > > > > http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > http://www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/61ec9203b2.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Feb. 27, 2015

Feb. 27, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Net Neutrality From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Clearly we should encourage local laws ... .. Greetings! Alberto Soto From: Sergio Bronstein [mailto: bronstein.sergio(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:06 a.m. To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality Good morning everyone s It is absolutely true that our duty as representatives of users is defending the right of free use of internet, but I venture to disagree on the concept of neutrality, as are thinking today. I go to the concrete. Today, telco operators are investing in those networks for transiting the content that users should have free access.Any study that is reviewed, demonstrate that the curve of investments (fixed, mobile, equipment and software) that these companies make their networks (and every day must support the transfer of larger files) near encountering the curve revenue; in short, the "business" of the telco, as it stands today, is not sotiene. Meanwhile, there is a group of companies (search engines, generators, distributors of content, social networking, etc., each day more concentrated and powerful, they do their business through networks which do not pay a penny. The questions from the perspective of the users are then: 1. Who will pay for the networks in the future? Do states? Should we let the states say how much, when, where, what, who and how they connect rates? 2. Would you ought to lay desarrolo operation and networks to Google, Facebook, Netflix? And if it happens again ask who connect to customers or users, they can pay or not. 3.Does Netflix and similar no charge for downloading contents but not collaborate in the development of networks? How they act when they take ownership of the operators? Our main lines of work should remain inclusion in its broadest sense (ie, connectivity and knowledge for use), plus free access and circulation of information, and in this sense, the question is: 4. The new owners of the networks ensure that this happens, or will give priority to customers rather than users? I think if we do not have clear answers to these questions, it is our duty to be vigilant, lest that a small group of business corporations is to decide on our rights and freedoms. I leave for debate, which hopefully will of. Greetings to everyone s, Sergio Bronstein President Internauta Venezuela On 02/26/2015 21:21, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > Wrote: It is a measure that hopefully prosper and be an example to the governments of our Region: http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H Best Regards Alberto Soto --- Avast antivirus software scanned this email for viruses. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org --- Avast antivirus software scanned this email for viruses. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f94b568431.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality
by bronstein.sergio＠gmail.com Feb. 27, 2015

Feb. 27, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Net Neutrality From: bronstein.sergio(a)gmail.com Buenos das tod @ s It is absolutely true that our obligation as representatives of users is defending the right of free use of internet, but I risk to disagree on the concept of neutrality as estpensando today. I go to the concrete. Today, telco operators are investing networks on passing the content that users should have free access. Any study that is reviewed, demostrarque curve investments (fixed networks, mobile, equipment and software) that These companies make their networks (which must withstand every day ms transfer large files) estcerca to meet the revenue curve; in short, the "business" of the telco, such as esthoy, no sotiene. Meanwhile, there is a group of companies (search engines, generators, content distributors, social networks, etc., each das ms concentrated and powerful, who make it their business to travs networks by which do not pay a penny. Questions from users optics are then: 1. Who pagarpor networks in the future? The states? We must stop states say how much, when, where, what, a quin conectarny with qutarifas? 2. We must deliver operational and network expansion by the Google, Facebook, Netflix? And if it happens again ask to quin conectarna customers or users, they can pay or not. 3. Does Netflix and similar no charge for download content but not collaborate in the development of networks? how actuarn when adueen the operators? Our main lines of work should remain inclusion in its broader sense (ie, connectivity and knowledge for use), besides Free access and circulation of information, and in this sense, the question it will be: 4. New dueos of garantizarn networks that happen, or privilegiarna customers before users? I think if we do not have clear answers to these questions, our must be vigilant, lest it be that a small group of corporations business is to decide on our rights and freedoms. I leave for discussion, which ojalse of. Greetings to everyone s, Sergio Bronstein President Internauta Venezuela On 02/26/2015 21:21, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> i wrote: > Es una medida que ojalá prospere y sea ejemplo para los gobiernos de > nuestra > Región: > > > > http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > http://www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/67614cdcaa.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Feb. 27, 2015

Feb. 27, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Net Neutrality From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Len, excellent starter to continue reflecting According to the conditions existing in each country. Your concerns are absolutely shared several passes of our Regin. Continue, is a way to start generating policies and avoid Sterile discussions. I would like to hear opinions of technicians informticos for the security of the information in each country, if there or not laws, and if so, whether they are appropriate ... not interested in the numbering internal in each country, but the concepts of information security that estn involved. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: Len Felipe Sanchez Amba [mailto: leonfelipe(a)sanchez.mx] Posted on: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:25 pm To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality Hello Alberto, Certainly at first seems positive. I want to be more cautious and wait out the full text of the resolution to analyze in detail and see possible implications may be different aspects. For example I am concerned that by qualifying as a public good, the State you can claim and exercise leadership on it. If a State democrtico and principles, it may not be serious. If it is a regime authoritarian and does not respect human rights, change the vision. One of the questions I formulated me is with this new classification that sernms communications prone espionage was by agencies like the NSA? I do not know. Just ahla caution not to celebrate before time to not have the details of the case. In the case of Mexico, to name a parallel scenario, the State in a given time may take control infrastructure telecommunications (being pblica) and control, under the justification of national security, communications without there being resource protect citizens against abuse. Again I reflect. In State respectful of human rights, the rule may well control infrastructure and communications flow without the citizen have (much) to worry about. But in a state where respect for human rights is lax, to put it in some way, the preocupacin should be mayscula. I think the issue darpara much analysis, reflection and discussion in months to come. Thanks for bringing us the note! Regards, Len > El 26/02/2015, a las 19:52, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> > > Es una medida que ojalá prospere y sea ejemplo para los gobiernos de > Región: > > > > http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > http://www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail for viruses. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fed68ba47.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality
by leonfelipe＠sanchez.mx Feb. 27, 2015

Feb. 27, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Net Neutrality From: leonfelipe(a)sanchez.mx Hello Alberto, Certainly at first seems positive. I want to be more cautious and wait out the full text of the resolution to analyze it in detail and see that may have potential implications in several respects. For example I worry that by qualifying as a public good, the state can claim and exercise leadership on it. If it is a principled democrtico State, may not be serious. If an authoritarian regime that does not respect human rights, change the vision. One of the questions I formulated me is with this new classification that sernms communications became prone to eavesdropping by agencies like the NSA? I do not know. Just ahla caution not to celebrate too soon until we have the details of the case. In the case of Mexico, to name a parallel scenario, the state in a given time may take control of the telecommunications infrastructure (being pblica) and control, under the justification of national security, and there were no communications to protect citizens against abuse. Again I reflect. In a state that respects human rights, the rule may well control the infrastructure and communications flow without the citizen had (much) to worry about. But in a state where respect for human rights is lax, to put it in some way, the preocupacin should be mayscula. I think the issue darpara much analysis, reflection and discussion in the months to come. Thanks for bringing us the note! Regards, Len > El 26/02/2015, a las 19:52, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > Es una medida que ojalá prospere y sea ejemplo para los gobiernos de nuestra > Región: > > > > http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. > http://www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ce39b31cdb.html --]]

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Net Neutrality
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Feb. 27, 2015

Feb. 27, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Net Neutrality From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org It is a measure ojalprospere and be an example to the governments of our Regin: http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H Best Regards Alberto Soto --- Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail for viruses. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b2493dc248.html --]]

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