April 2010 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] La traducción automatizada para LACRALO discute la lista
by Andres Piazza April 26, 2010

April 26, 2010

Dear Carlton, I totally understand and agree what u are saying here. It's hard to be writing and following arguments in both languages but many of us are also able to do that. We do need to check the translation tools. But meanwhile, we should keep in mind the english speaking folks from the Caribbean. Is a circle, and we need to cut that down. Is harder for them to be connected to the discussions in spanish, so we just get imput from a short number of fellows. Regards, Andrés > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:02:55 +0000 > From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: > Subject: La traducción automatizada para LACRALO discute la lista > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > Tema: La traducción automatizada para LACRALO discute la lista > De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > He estado luchando para seguir los argumentos en ambas caras enel reciente > aumento de discusiones sobre un u otro temas. Se parece que como los postes > se convierte más de largo, nuestro motor de la traducción se parece convertirse aún más > idiosincrásico. > > Postes más largos tienden para registrar variaciones más sutiles en la postura, que hace > las traducciones que más importantes. Y las traducciones son siempre más > importante para los archivos. > > Debemos tener otra mirada en las herramientas de traducción. > > Carlton Samuels > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [[--Original text (en) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3170cbfac6.html > --]] > > > _________________________________________________________________

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F =
by jsalgueiro＠cantv.net April 24, 2010

April 24, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = From: jsalgueiro(a)cantv.net I was in Honduras and conocì to the people who administered hn.With the Co diciones of that pais and the resources of which 4.000 disponìan dominions were a barbarism. Honduras is not comparable in poblaciòn, development nor conditions econòmicas with others paìses of regiòn. JOS Original Message: From: Johnny Laureano johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com Date: The Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT) To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com, lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es][lac-discuss-in ] Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = Dear Carlos, In order to refer with respect to his singular punto to me of Vista, in previous oportunidad usted sumó solidariamente a expresiones of support to a ONG deprived Honduran, managing del ccTLD .ht., same that durante casi 20 years, it administered only 4,000 dominios, I ask that remoterof interests of the users of Internet that this poor man result. I consider that it must be constant preoccupation that the interests of the organizations prevailed, in general, does not collide with the interests of the users of Internet and we not only react by individual situations, for that reason my surprise. Therefore, I showed, that so he is opportune to develop one agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow a greater access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the stops costs and commercial strategies, based on its position of monopolies of facto (in LAC and Peru, for example), considering in addition insignificant contributions that several administrators make of ccTDL to the ICANN, if it is that they make some contribution.I invite to him to lead this initiative, their knowledge on the subject and experiencecould be very useful for this proposal. Â Finally, I consider that always there will be space for the discussion. Cartagena, historical city of our brother country will be propitious place in order to talk on concrete subjects and those that consider pertinent. Â Kindly, Â Johnny L. AUI PERU - ALS --- On the Sat, 4/24/10, Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] You could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:57 A.M. Dear Johny: The question was towards Our common Antonio friendand I really create has sufficient capacity,y asi I recognize it, stops to answer by itself and to give me to the answer to the preoccupation that we felt many by the assumed attitude and defense of the interests corporative of a private company that this very far from the interests of the users, segun my particular point of view. In another orderme gustaria that You participated in the teleconferencings and the development of politicas for the region and in collaboration with ALAC but alla of single to appear to make a defense of which does not need it, confusing concepts and not contributing anything discucion raised. Ojala we pruned to find in December in meeting of Cartagena and power us to talk but on the individual. my greetings Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:25:22 +0000 > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFPodr=EDa_usted_clarificar=3F __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > > Dear friends, > Â Â Â > In teleconferencing of day of yesterday, many preoccupationswere pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show to position on the to matter, but I was listening to until the end the to diver commitments to obtain to greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal the cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), to improper and treacherous cuestionamiento of a representative of to ALS against arepresentative of to anotherALS. > Â Â Â > Our Antonio friend, Â is informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred to diver connections where one dog read all the antecedents that the Colombian State eats executing like part from hisestrategia for dominion ccTLD co.Â Â Â > Â Â Â > Some antecedents indicate the following thing: > Â Â Â > The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by means of who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co... " > Â Â Â > The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, to under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is a resource of the sector of the telecommunications, ofpublic interest, whose administration, maintenance and development will be to under the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications. > Ã Â > Ã Â > It said it and it remembers to U.S., Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries, Ã result that I a.m. safe they will reflect in thesurvey that Rudi Vansnick eats applying from the relations between theALSand losÃ ccTLD of the region. > Ã Â > Perhaps there am is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop anagenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to to greater Access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on to their position de facto ofmonopolies (in Peru, for example). > Ã Â > I a.m. in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining to greater participation of the spilled ALS the day of yesterday, but I a.m. not in agreement with the irrespetuoso treatment of representativesof to ALS against to worthy one represents of the internauts of our to brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him. > Ã Â > Kindly, > Ã Â > Johnny Laureano > AUI PERU - ALS > Ã Â > Ã Â > Ã Â > Ã Â > > --- On Fri, 4/23/10, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Could you clarify? > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M. > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Could you clarify? > Of: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com > > > > Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co now is administered by the company deprived with very to diver interests that users of the end, without the participation of the users of the end ina national Bussiness,and how dog explain the fact that the Co will beuse like to cubical to centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I a.m. really surprised for its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not to clear for and I worry itsrepresentation of the users of the end. You plows participating or some to other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the legal end in definitions ofthe structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Of what maneraestÃ n > protected rights of users of the end? You! > Ã Â (same you or its ALS) receives to certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co infacebook? Plow you interested in a growth of the company? and in this marries porquÃ©? > > Carlos Aguirre > > _________________________________________________________________ > Easy very of there am is of the meetings to organize with of Hotmailand Calendar: invitations and I received confirmations of attendanceof enviÃ. > http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ÃÂ§7eb2fa78.html > --]] > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fab0f979d.html > --]] > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live Mail chequeÃ¡ your Hotmail and other accounts of email without being connected. I discovered more. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/mail.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c98159ceb5.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podrí = =?iso-8859-1?q?a usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones= =?iso-8859-1?q 5Fde=5Fcuenta=5Fporque=3D3F_=3D =
by johnnylaureano＠yahoo.com April 24, 2010

April 24, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Blac-discuss-en=5D=09=BFPodr=ED = =?iso-8859-1?q?a_usted_clarificar=3F_=3D=3Fiso-8859-1=3Fq=3FRendiciones= =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Fde=5Fcuenta=5Fporque=3D3F_=3D = From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com Dear Carlos, In order sumó solidariamente to refer with respect to his singular punto to me of Vista, in previous oportunidad usted a expresiones of support to a Honduran, managing private ONG del ccTLD .ht., the same one that durante casi 20 years, administered only 4,000 dominios, I ask that remoter of the interests of the users of Internet that this poor man result. I consider that it must be constant preoccupation that the interests of the deprived organizations, in general, do not collide with the interests of the users of Internet and we not only react by individual situations, for that reason my surprise. Therefore, I declared, that so he is opportune to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to a greater access to the dominions ccTLD ofthe region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on their position of monopolies de facto (in LAC and Peru, for example), considering in addition insignificant contributions that several administrators of ccTDL to the ICANN make, if it is that they make some contribution. I invite to him to lead this initiative, its knowledge on the subject and experience could be very useful for this proposal. Finally, I consider that always there will be space for the discussion. Cartagena, historical city of our brother country will be propitious place to talk on concrete subjects and those that consider pertinent. Kindly, Johnny L. AUI PERU - ALS --- On the Sat, 4/24/10, Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] You could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:57 A.M. Dear Johny: The question was towards Our common Antonio friendand I really create has sufficient capacity,y asi I recognize it, to answer by itself and to occur the answer to the preoccupation that we felt many by the assumed attitude and defense of the corporative interests of a private company that this very far from the interests of the users, segun my particular point of view. In another order gustaria me who You participated in the teleconferencings and the development of politicas for the region and in collaboration with single ALAC but alla of appearing to make a defense of which does not need it, confusing concepts and not contributing anything discucion raised. Ojala we pruned to find in December in meeting of Cartagena and power us to talk but on the individual. my greetings Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:25:22 +0000 > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFPodr=EDa_usted_clarificar=3F __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > > Dear friends, > Â Â Â > In teleconferencing of day of yesterday, many preoccupationswere pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show to position on the to matter, until but I was listening to the end the to diver commitments to obtain to greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal the cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), improper and treac! herous cuestionamiento of to representative of to ALS against arepresentative of to another ALS. > Â Â Â > Our Antonio friend, Â is informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred to diver connections where one dog read all theantecedents that eats executing the Colombian State like part from hisestrategia for dominion ccTLD co.Â Â Â > Â Â Â > Some antecedents indicate the following thing: > Â Â Â > The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by meansof who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co..." > Â Â Â > The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, to under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is to resource of the sector of the tel! ecommunications, ofpublic interest, whose administration, main! tenance and development will be to under the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications. > Ã Â > Ã Â > It said it and it remembers to U.S., Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries, Ã result that I a.m. safe they will reflect in the survey that eats applying Rudi Vansnick from the relations between theALS and losÃ ccTLD of the region. > Ã Â > Perhaps there am is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to to greater Access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on to their position de facto of monopolies (in Peru, for example). > Ã Â > I a.m. in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining to greater part! icipation of the spilled ALS the day of yesterday, but I irrespetuoso a.m. not in agreement with the treatment of representativesof to ALS against to worthy one represents of the internauts of our to brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him. > Ã Â > Kindly, > Ã Â > Johnny Laureano > AUI PERU - ALS > Ã Â > Ã Â > Ã Â > Ã Â > > --- On Fri, 4/23/10, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Could you clarify? > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M. > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Could you clarify? > Of: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com > > > > Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co! now is administered by the company deprived with very to dive! r intere sts thatusers of the end, without the participation of the users of the end ina national Bussiness, and how dog explain the fact that the Co will beuse like to cubical to centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I for a.m. really surprised its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not to clear for and I worry its representation of the users of the end. You plows participating or some to other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the legal end in definitions of the structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Ofwhat maneraestÃ n > protected rights of users of the end? You! > Ã Â (same you or its ALS) receives to certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co in facebook? Plows you interested in a growth of the company? and in thismarries porquÃ©? > > Carlos Aguirr! e > > _________________________________________________________________ > Easy very of there am is of the meetings to organize with ofHotmailand Calendar: invitations and I received confirmations of attendanceof enviÃ. > http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ÃÂ§7eb2fa78.html > --]] > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fab0f979d.html > --]] > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live Mail chequeÃ¡ your Hotmail and other accounts of email without being connected. I discovered more. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/mail.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/853b07e419.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podrí = =?iso-8859-1?q?a usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones= =?iso-8859-1?q 5Fde=5Fcuenta=5Fporque=3D3F_=3D =
by johnnylaureano＠yahoo.com April 24, 2010

April 24, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Blac-discuss-en=5D=09=BFPodr=ED = =?iso-8859-1?q?a_usted_clarificar=3F_=3D=3Fiso-8859-1=3Fq=3FRendiciones= =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Fde=5Fcuenta=5Fporque=3D3F_=3D = From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com Dear Carlos, In order sumó solidariamente to refer with respect to his singular punto to me of Vista, in previous oportunidad usted a expresiones of support to a Honduran, managing private ONG del ccTLD .ht., the same one that durante casi 20 years, administered only 4,000 dominios, I ask that remoter of the interests of the users of Internet that this poor man result. I consider that it must be constant preoccupation that the interests of the deprived organizations, in general, do not collide with the interests of the users of Internet and we not only react by individual situations, for that reason my surprise. Therefore, I declared, that so he is opportune to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to a greater access to the dominions ccTLD ofthe region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on their position of monopolies de facto (in LAC and Peru, for example), considering in addition insignificant contributions that several administrators of ccTDL to the ICANN make, if it is that they make some contribution. I invite to him to lead this initiative, its knowledge on the subject and experience could be very useful for this proposal. Finally, I consider that always there will be space for the discussion. Cartagena, historical city of our brother country will be propitious place to talk on concrete subjects and those that consider pertinent. Kindly, Johnny L. AUI PERU - ALS --- On the Sat, 4/24/10, Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] You could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:57 A.M. Dear Johny: The question was towards Our common Antonio friendand I really create has sufficient capacity,y asi I recognize it, to answer by itself and to occur the answer to the preoccupation that we felt many by the assumed attitude and defense of the corporative interests of a private company that this very far from the interests of the users, segun my particular point of view. In another order gustaria me who You participated in the teleconferencings and the development of politicas for the region and in collaboration with single ALAC but alla of appearing to make a defense of which does not need it, confusing concepts and not contributing anything discucion raised. Ojala we pruned to find in December in meeting of Cartagena and power us to talk but on the individual. my greetings Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:25:22 +0000 > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFPodr=EDa_usted_clarificar=3F __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > > Dear friends, > Â Â Â > In teleconferencing of day of yesterday, many preoccupationswere pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show to position on the to matter, until but I was listening to the end the to diver commitments to obtain to greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal the cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), improper and treac! herous cuestionamiento of to representative of to ALS against arepresentative of to another ALS. > Â Â Â > Our Antonio friend, Â is informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred to diver connections where one dog read all theantecedents that eats executing the Colombian State like part from hisestrategia for dominion ccTLD co.Â Â Â > Â Â Â > Some antecedents indicate the following thing: > Â Â Â > The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by meansof who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co..." > Â Â Â > The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, to under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is to resource of the sector of the tel! ecommunications, ofpublic interest, whose administration, main! tenance and development will be to under the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications. > Ã Â > Ã Â > It said it and it remembers to U.S., Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries, Ã result that I a.m. safe they will reflect in the survey that eats applying Rudi Vansnick from the relations between theALS and losÃ ccTLD of the region. > Ã Â > Perhaps there am is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to to greater Access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on to their position de facto of monopolies (in Peru, for example). > Ã Â > I a.m. in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining to greater part! icipation of the spilled ALS the day of yesterday, but I irrespetuoso a.m. not in agreement with the treatment of representativesof to ALS against to worthy one represents of the internauts of our to brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him. > Ã Â > Kindly, > Ã Â > Johnny Laureano > AUI PERU - ALS > Ã Â > Ã Â > Ã Â > Ã Â > > --- On Fri, 4/23/10, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Could you clarify? > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M. > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Could you clarify? > Of: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com > > > > Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co! now is administered by the company deprived with very to dive! r intere sts thatusers of the end, without the participation of the users of the end ina national Bussiness, and how dog explain the fact that the Co will beuse like to cubical to centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I for a.m. really surprised its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not to clear for and I worry its representation of the users of the end. You plows participating or some to other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the legal end in definitions of the structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Ofwhat maneraestÃ n > protected rights of users of the end? You! > Ã Â (same you or its ALS) receives to certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co in facebook? Plows you interested in a growth of the company? and in thismarries porquÃ©? > > Carlos Aguirr! e > > _________________________________________________________________ > Easy very of there am is of the meetings to organize with ofHotmailand Calendar: invitations and I received confirmations of attendanceof enviÃ. > http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ÃÂ§7eb2fa78.html > --]] > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fab0f979d.html > --]] > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live Mail chequeÃ¡ your Hotmail and other accounts of email without being connected. I discovered more. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/mail.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b7c377c82d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podrí = =?iso-8859-1?q?a usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones= =?iso-8859-1?q 5Fde=5Fcuenta=5Fporque=3D3F_=3D =
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com April 24, 2010

April 24, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Blac-discuss-en=5D=09=BFPodr=ED = =?iso-8859-1?q?a_usted_clarificar=3F_=3D=3Fiso-8859-1=3Fq=3FRendiciones= =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Fde=5Fcuenta=5Fporque=3D3F_=3D = From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear Johny: The question was towards Our common Antonio friend and I really create has sufficient capacity,y asi I recognize it, to answer by itself and to occur the answer to the preoccupation that we felt many by the assumed attitude and defense of the corporative interests of a private company that this very far from the interests of the users, segun my particular point of view. In another order gustaria me who You participated in the teleconferencings and the development of politicas for the region and in collaboration with single ALAC but alla of appearing to make a defense of which does not need it, confusing concepts and not contributing anything discucion raised. Ojala we pruned to find in December in meeting of Cartagena and power us to talk but on the individual. my greetings Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba- Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:25:22 +0000 > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Could you clarify? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFPodr=EDa_usted_clarificar=3F __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = > From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com > > Dear friends, > > In teleconferencing of day of yesterday, many preoccupationswere pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show to position on the to matter, until but I was listening to the end the to diver commitments to obtain to greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal the cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), improper and treacherous! cuestionamiento of to representative of to ALS against arepresentative of to another ALS. > > Our Antonio friend, is informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred to diver connections where one dog read all theantecedents that eats executing the Colombian State like part from hisestrategia for dominion ccTLD Co. > > Some antecedents indicate the following thing: > > The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by meansof who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co..." > > The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, to under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is to resource of the sector of the telecommunications, ofpublic interest, ! whose administration, maintenance and development will be to u! nder the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications. > Â > Â > It said it and it remembers to U.S., Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries, Â result that I a.m. safe they will reflect in the survey that eats applying Rudi Vansnick from the relations between theALS and losÂ ccTLD of the region. > Â > Perhaps there am is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to to greater Access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on to their position de facto of monopolies (in Peru, for example). > Â > I a.m. in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining to greater participation of the spilled ALS the day of yest! erday, but I irrespetuoso a.m. not in agreement with the treatment of representativesof to ALS against to worthy one represents of the internauts of our to brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him. > Â > Kindly, > Â > Johnny Laureano > AUI PERU - ALS > Â > Â > Â > Â > > --- On Fri, 4/23/10, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Could you clarify? > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M. > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Could you clarify? > Of: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com > > > > Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co now is administered by the company deprived with very t! o diver interests thatusers of the end, without the participat! ion of t he users of the end ina national Bussiness, and how dog explain the fact that the Co will beuse like to cubical to centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I for a.m. really surprised its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not to clear for and I worry its representation of the users of the end. You plows participating or some to other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the legal end in definitions of the structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Ofwhat maneraestÃ n > protected rights of users of the end? You! > Â (same you or its ALS) receives to certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co in facebook? Plows you interested in a growth of the company? and in thismarries porquÃ©? > > Carlos Aguirre > > ___________________________________________________! ______________ > Easy very of there am is of the meetings to organize with ofHotmailand Calendar: invitations and I received confirmations of attendanceof enviÃ. > http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/Ã§7eb2fa78.html > --]] > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fab0f979d.html > --]] > > > _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live Mail chequeá your Hotmail and other accounts of email without being connected. I discovered more. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/mail.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c19105c663.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podría usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F =
by johnnylaureano＠yahoo.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFPodr=EDa_usted_clarificar=3F __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com Dear friends, In teleconferencia del day of yesterday, many preoccupations were pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show a position on the matter, but I was listening to until the end the diverse commitments to obtain a greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal el cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), improper and treacherous cuestionamiento of a representative of a ALS against arepresentative of another ALS. Our Antonio friend, ha informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred diverse connections where one can read all the antecedents that come executing the Colombian State like part from hisestrategia para el dominion ccTLD co. Some antecedents indicate the following thing: The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by means of who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co..." The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is a resource of the sector of the telecommunications, ofpublic interest, whose administration, maintenance and development will be under the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications. Â Â It said it and it remembers to us, Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries, Â resultado that I am safe they will reflect in the survey that come applying Rudi Vansnick from the relations between theALS and losÂ ccTLD of the region. Â Perhaps he is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to a greater access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on their position of monopolies de facto (in Peru, for example). Â I am in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining a greater participation of the spilled ALS the day of yesterday, but I am not in agreement with the irrespetuoso treatment of representativesof a ALS against a worthy one represents of the internauts of our brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him. Â Kindly, Â Johnny Laureano AUI PERU - ALS Â Â Â Â --- On Fri, 4/23/10, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Could you clarify? To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M. [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] Subject: Could you clarify? Of: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co now is administered by the company deprived with very diverse interests that users of the end, without the participation of the users of the end ina national Bussiness, and how can explain the fact that the Co will beuse like a cubical centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I am really surprised for its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not clear and I worry for its representation of the users of the end. You are participating or some other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the end in definitions of the legal structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Of what maneraestÃ¡n protected rights of users of the end? You! Â (same you or its ALS) receives a certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co in facebook? Are you interested in a growth of the company? and in this case porquÃ©? Carlos Aguirre _________________________________________________________________ Easy very of he is of the meetings to organize with of Hotmailand Calendario: invitations and I received confirmations of attendanceof enviÃ¡. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx _______________________________________________ [ [ - - Original text (in) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/Ã§7eb2fa78.html --]] -----Inline Attachment Follows _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/73ac191c35.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podría usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F =
by johnnylaureano＠yahoo.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFPodr=EDa_usted_clarificar=3F __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = From: johnnylaureano(a)yahoo.com Dear friends, In teleconferencia del day of yesterday, many preoccupations were pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show a position on the matter, but I was listening to until the end the diverse commitments to obtain a greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal el cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), improper and treacherous cuestionamiento of a representative of a ALS against arepresentative of another ALS. Our Antonio friend, ha informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred diverse connections where one can read all the antecedents that come executing the Colombian State like part from hisestrategia para el dominion ccTLD co. Some antecedents indicate the following thing: The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by means of who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co..." The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is a resource of the sector of the telecommunications, ofpublic interest, whose administration, maintenance and development will be under the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications. Â Â It said it and it remembers to us, Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries, Â resultado that I am safe they will reflect in the survey that come applying Rudi Vansnick from the relations between theALS and losÂ ccTLD of the region. Â Perhaps he is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to a greater access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on their position of monopolies de facto (in Peru, for example). Â I am in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining a greater participation of the spilled ALS the day of yesterday, but I am not in agreement with the irrespetuoso treatment of representativesof a ALS against a worthy one represents of the internauts of our brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him. Â Kindly, Â Johnny Laureano AUI PERU - ALS Â Â Â Â --- On Fri, 4/23/10, carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Could you clarify? To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M. [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] Subject: Could you clarify? Of: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co now is administered by the company deprived with very diverse interests that users of the end, without the participation of the users of the end ina national Bussiness, and how can explain the fact that the Co will beuse like a cubical centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I am really surprised for its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not clear and I worry for its representation of the users of the end. You are participating or some other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the end in definitions of the legal structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Of what maneraestÃ¡n protected rights of users of the end? You! Â (same you or its ALS) receives a certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co in facebook? Are you interested in a growth of the company? and in this case porquÃ©? Carlos Aguirre _________________________________________________________________ Easy very of he is of the meetings to organize with of Hotmailand Calendario: invitations and I received confirmations of attendanceof enviÃ¡. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx _______________________________________________ [ [ - - Original text (in) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/Ã§7eb2fa78.html --]] -----Inline Attachment Follows _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fab0f979d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Survey for the ALS of LACRALO
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Survey for the ALS of LACRALO From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Dear Jose Luis, these safe that you wanted to enter all this direction URL? https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?ccnso_at_large_coordination_ad_hoc_work… connection appears cut for some, but if it copies everything and you stick it in the bar, it works. Thanks to consult it. Greetings, Andres > From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > To: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] Survey for the ALS of LACRALO > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:23:50 -0500 > > Dear Andrés > > I cannot enter to the survey. You know if the connection follows assets? > > warm Greetings, > > Jose Luis > > Barzallo & Barzallo > Lawyers > > www.barzallo.com > Columbus 535 and 6 of December. > Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > Fax: 593 2 2564530 > email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Andres > Piazza > Envoy: Wednesday, 07 of April of 2010 14:39 > For: Spanish LACRALO > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Survey for the ALS of LACRALO > > > > Considered members of LACRALO > Like them decia in the previous mail, Rudi Vansnick, liason of ALAC in > ccN! SO, has prepared a questionnaire on the relations betweenthe ALS and > operators of ccTLD. > > the habiamos advance next to Dev in this list months atras (after > meetings with Rudi that date the past from year to identify of which > way we can fortify the collaboration between ccTLDs and the ALSs of each > pais) and fundamentally from the initiative of the Work group of > Coordination of AT Large and ccNSO > https://st.icann.org > /alac/index.cgi?ccnso_at_large_coordination_ad_hoc_working_group > > This work group is led an electronic survey, whose > writing is based on the received commentaries. The objectiveis that all > ALS can complete it. > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?status_ccnso_at_large_coordination_wg > http://archive.atlarge.icann.org/lurker/message/20100302.094145.c7482682.en. > HTML > > Creemos extremely important to diagnose the contact level, > participation, contributes, utility and interchange between ALSs and ccTLD of each > pais. > > Warm! Greetings, > > Andres Piazza > > ____________! ________ _____________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4d44a74482.html --]]

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Re: =?utf-8?q?Dominio=�co=E2=80=A6_Aporte_DE_ACUI_a = =?utf-8?q?_la_lista=� =
by joseluis＠barzallo.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?utf-8?q?Dominio=Èco=E2=80=A6_Aporte_DE_ACUI_a = =?utf-8?q?_la_lista=È = From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Considered compaÃ±eros DÃa me quedÃ without© voice in the call and I could not yesterday comment out this on co It seems to me that lÃmite of intervenciÃ³n and participaciÃ³nas much of the ALS as of ICANN in the internal subjects of each is quite clear paÃs, much mÃ s when certain vÃnculos have legally not been closed of the usual form. I believe that the one of was yesterday very important to say "aquÃ we are" and if the users do not worry to us about the world because that is ours misiÃ³n, but we must either satanizar decisiÃ³n taken andmuch less to try than ACUI was the decisional voice in the process, I am sure that Antonio habrÃ made listen to its voice on the matter and his opiniÃ³n is absolutely respectable, aclaraciÃ³n that I do althoughhas not been attacked it nor demanded nothing mÃ s allÃ of its obligations. I thank for and I congratulate the opinions that have been spilled because they us ayudarÃ n to future to observe with thoroughness thoseprocesses in which by our nature we must act. Warm greetings, JosÃ© Luis Barzallo AEDIT www.aedit.org.ec ColÃ³n 535 and 6 of December. Edif. CristÃ³bal ColÃ³n Of. 602 Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 Fax: 593 2 2564530 Email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Quito Ecuador Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Alexander Pisanty Sent: Thursday, 22 of April of 2010 19:01 It stops: to info(a)techlaw.com.ar CC: LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.coÃ¢ÂÂŠ Aporte OF ACUI to the list. Daniel, introducirÃÂa a shade. We can to neither it touches us like community, nor it touches to ICANN, to take part in the internal subjects of ningÃÂºn paÃÂs. Particularly they remember that agreements of the World-wide Summit on the Society of the InformaciÃÂ³n they contain an agreement, that peleÃÂ³ to blood and fire, thatseÃÂ±ala that ningÃÂºn paÃÂs can take part in administraciÃÂ³n of ccTLD of another one. The responsibility that is unquestionable and inclaudicable is the oneto discuss, to define, to spread and to return object from diÃ logo conjunciÃÂ³n of interests of the local community of Internet (LIC) and global (GIC) before which it gives the responsibility of ccTLD. This is clear in the RFC1519 and others documents. ArgumentaciÃÂ³n cannot be compatible with that responsibility one that no dÃ© certainty about the polÃÂticas of ccTLD to "stakeholders". To risk of happening to me of didÃ ctico for some, it is necessary to remember that "stakeholders" is "to which the subject goes to them in something", life, honor, business, I interest, principles. To compaÃÂ±ÃÂas, institutions and organizations of ours paÃÂses it must worry that a TLD arises (cc or g) that is lent to registries of names that force them to defensive registries. To registrars, ISPs, etc. of regiÃÂ³n worries the risk to them about confusiÃÂ³n of its users and everything what it forces to them to adapt his instructive ones, guÃÂas, documents and operations (including antiSpam, phishing, etc.) And to all it worries to us that bad examples spread. If something is not it, that be clear. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Daniel Monastersky wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:46:05 -0300 > From: Daniel Monastersky <danielmonastersky(a)gmail.com> > Reply-To: to info(a)techlaw.com.ar > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx> > Cc: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: > Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Ãco=85_Aporte_DE_AC > UI_a _ = [ Windows-1252 ] the list. > > I add Me to the preoccupation of Alex. We must intervene in the affair and > to notice that our mandate is exactly for avoiding that facts happen > like the one of CO > > > Daniel > > > > > Dr Daniel Monastersky > Partner > Techlaw | Lawyers > to www.techlaw.com.ar > > CEO & Founder > Robbed Identity > www.identidadrobada.com > > > > dÃÂa 22 of April of 2010 19:27, Alexander Pisanty > <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx> escribiÃÂ³: > > AndrÃ©s, Antonio, all, > > > > thousand excuses by not being able to participate in the today teleconferencing; my > > plans was frustrated in! ÃÂºltimo minute. > > > > OjalÃ the subject that estÃ in discusiÃÂ³n, on co, allows us to explore > > many to which it is related and is object of preocupaciÃÂ³n and acciÃÂ³n of > > our organizations, each one in individual and all altogether. > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >! > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Andres Piazza wrote: > > ! > > & gt; Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:11:22 +0000 > > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com> > > > To: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx, amedinagomez(a)gmail.com > > > Cc: "[ Windows-1252 ] LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol" > > > <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Subject: [ Windows-1252 ] RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alexander, in the Teleconferencing that this happening in this > > > same moment, I ask myself to him Antonio on this subject. > > > Just tapeworm that to go away, asi that could not respond. > > > > > > Your I raise summarizes the preoccupation that habia raised and, also > > > mia. > > > > > > Thanks for the contribution. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Andres > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:48:34 +0000 > > > > From: apisan@servidor.! unam.mx > > > > To: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com > > > > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.coÃ¢ÂÂŠ Aporte OF ACUI to the list. > > > > > > > > Antonio, > > > > > > > > but putting the things a little mÃ s in clear. When originally > > > > proposed, makes ten aÃÂ±os, that co could be used likealternative a > > > > com > > > > by the interested ones, armÃÂ³ the one of San QuintÃÂnbecause "pretendÃÂa > > > > to sell > > > > the name of the Mother country "or something of whichthis afirmaciÃÂ³n is not one > > > > versiÃÂ³n > > > > very exaggerated. > > > > > > > > the process of dÃ©each had like objective to create new rules for > > > > new operator and to replace the previous one. > > > > > > > > Now the new rules estÃ n being leÃÂdas becau! se co canbe used > > > > like alternative to com by t! he inter ested ones. > > > > > > > > Ã CÃÂ³mo explains ACUI or cÃÂ³mo reacts ACUI or cÃÂ³mo denies like errÃÂ³nea > > > > ACUI this interpretaciÃÂ³n, that indeed could be errÃÂ³nea or > > > > incomplete? > > > > > > > > EYE: this question has meaning for the history of ccTLDs and by > > > > as much for the history and the culture of Internet in regiÃÂ³n, and by > > > > possible extensiÃÂ³n of its criteria, in a species of Compared Right, > > > > a > > > > others paÃÂses, thus to include/understand the precedent is important. Not > > > > deals with an attempt of intromisiÃÂ³n of paÃÂs brother, respected and > > > > wanted. > > > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > >. > > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > > UNAM, Av. University ! 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > > > > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina GÃÂ³mez wrote: > > > > >>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:18:04 -0500 >>>>> From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina GÃÂ³mez" <amedinagomez(a)gmail.com> >>>>! > To: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol" >>>>>! <lac-di scuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ Windows-1252 ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a >>>>> >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> Dear friends >>>>> >>>>> From the Colombian AsociaciÃÂ³n of Users of Internet we have been >>>>> kind >>>>> to the commentaries in relaciÃÂ³n to dominio.co and likeALS of Lacralo >>>>> we want >>>>> to make the following contributions. >>>>> >>>>> Is of fundamental importance of mentioning that evoluciÃÂ³n and development of >>>>> >>>>> dominions in Colombia associated to co has lived a complex process but >>>>> participativo©tambiÃ n. >>>>> >>>>> the interested ones in knowing some these aspects, can accede to >>>>> vestibule of the Ministry of the TecnologÃÂas de InformaciÃÂ³n and >>>>&! gt; Communications >>>>> to travÃ©s of the following connection >>>>> http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279 >>>>> >>>>> the Colombian AsociaciÃÂ³n of Users of Internet in the development of >>>>> this >>>>> process has participated actively in representaciÃÂ³n ofthe community of >>>>> usuary of Internet of Colombia. >>>>> >>>>> Is necessary to mention that realizÃÂ³ at least a pÃÂºblico process - >>>>> of 10 >>>>> aÃÂ±os -, in head of the Ministry of the TecnologÃÂas deInformaciÃÂ³n and >>>>> Communications, MINTIC, process that has been characterized - like many >>>>> others >>>>> by being opened, transparent and participativo, and thedifferent people >>>>> and >>>>> organizations who participated, at their moment presented/displayed pÃÂºblicamente >&g! t;>>> his >>>>> points of view or travÃ&! copy;s o f written proposals,scene of >>>>> respect and of consensus. >>>>> >>>>> These processes allowed him, to in that then Ministry of >>>>> Communications, to establish, as much the model of gestiÃÂ³n and administraciÃÂ³n >>>>> like >>>>> the inherent polÃÂticas to that administraciÃÂ³n and in individual >>>>> criteria >>>>> necessary for evaluaciÃÂ³n and selecciÃÂ³n of the organization in charge of >>>>> administraciÃÂ³n. The aÃÂ±os ÃÂºltimos, in this context viviÃÂ³ a process >>>>> of >>>>> well-known LicitaciÃÂ³n and openly socialized. >>>>> >>>>> In these processes ACUI participÃÂ³ making the corresponding contributions >>>>> in >>>>> work meetings that helped the Ministry to define aspects >>>>> excellent and to help to obtain consensus, that is whatfinally >>>>&g! t; enriches >>>>> these discussions, all it in a tico atmosphere democrÃ. >>>>> >>>>> Is important then to remember that the Ministry of >>>>> TecnologÃÂas >>>>> of InformaciÃÂ³n and the Communications has under its responsibility >>>>> definiciÃÂ³n of polÃÂtica, the activities of control andmonitoring of >>>>> dominio.co <http://domino.co/>. >>>>> >>>>> Hay to emphasize that today dominio.co offers mÃ s value for >>>>> community of >>>>> Internet. It allows the users to be recognized and to be located in >>>>> Internet a >>>>> global level, to take advantage of estÃ to ndar of world-wide class, with clear rules >>>>> and >>>>> nondiscretionary of a single person. And this has tambiÃ©n enormous >>>>> benefits that are translated in efficiency, service, capacity and price! . >>>>> >>>>> Today we have a good, ad! visable, interesting dominion and mÃ s >>>>> important, >>>>> result of a participativo process. We must continue thetask >>>>> of >>>>> to work in an ambient transparency and of respect in order to obtain mÃ s and >>>>> better benefits usuary them and to support the made decisions >>>>> in >>>>> consensus and right context. >>>>> >>>>> Antonio Medina GÃÂ³mez >>>>> President >>>>> Colombian AsociaciÃÂ³n of Users of Internet >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> lac-discuss-is mailing list >>>>> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> >>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… >>>>> >>>>> http://www.lacralo.org >>>>> > > > > > > ________________________________________! _________________________ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > -- > Dr Daniel Monastersky > Partner > Techlaw | Lawyers > to www.techlaw.com.ar > > CEO & Founder > Robbed Identity > www.identidadrobada.com > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f5ab57f71a.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Survey for the ALS of LACRALO
by joseluis＠barzallo.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Survey for the ALS of LACRALO From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Dear Andrés I cannot enter to the survey. You know if the connection follows assets? Warm greetings, Jose Luis Barzallo & Barzallo Lawyers www.barzallo.com Columbus 535 and 6 of December. Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 Fax: 593 2 2564530 Email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Quito Ecuador Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Andres Piazza Sent: Wednesday, 07 of April of 2010 14:39 It stops: Spanish LACRALO Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Survey for the ALS of LACRALO Considered members of LACRALO Like them decia in the previous mail, Rudi Vansnick, liason ofALAC in ccNSO, has prepared a questionnaire on the relations between the ALS and operators of ccTLD. The habiamos advance next to Dev in this list months atras (after meetings with Rudi that date the past from year to identify ofwhich way we can fortify the collaboration between ccTLDs and the ALSs of each pais) and fundamentally from the initiative of the Work group of Coordination of AT Large and ccNSO https://st.icann.org /alac/index.cgi?ccnso_at_large_coordination_ad_hoc_working_group This work group is led an electronic survey, whose writing is based on the received commentaries. The objective is that all ALS can complete it. https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?status_ccnso_at_large_coordination_wg they http://archive.atlarge.icann.org/lurker/message/20100302.094145.c7482682.en. HTML Let us create extremely important to diagnose the contact level, participation, contributes, utility and interchange between ALSs and ccTLD of each pais. Warm Greetings, Andres Piazza _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c4ba93d5d3.html --]]

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