September 2011 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = BFURGENTE_-_usted_ha_respondido_? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? A_la_encuesta_para_el_representante_de_LACRALO_al_A? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? LAC_para_2011_a_2013 = 3F? =
by moni＠abalo-laforgia.com.ar Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = BFURGENTE_-_usted_ha_respondido_? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? A_la_encuesta_para_el_representante_de_LACRALO_al_A? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? LAC_para_2011_a_2013 = 3F? = From: moni(a)abalo-laforgia.com.ar Hello JostbNL> todava I have not received the credentials. To vote where I can access? Thanks Abalo Mnica ISOC-Ar ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of JostbNL> Francisco Arce Posted on: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:27 To: Alberto Soto CC: Carlos Dionisio Aguirre; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Staff Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] URGENT - you have responded to the survey LACRALO for the ALAC representative for 2011 to 2013? Dear Albert and others who did not receive the credentials I am occupying the subject. Apologies case Jose Arce .- On September 22, 2011 9:17, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribitbNL> > Sorry, aún no he recibido nada. > Saludos > Alberto Soto > IIISI > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto:devtee@gmail.com] > Enviado el: miércoles, 21 de septiembre de 2011 02:19 p.m. > Para: carlos dionisio aguirre > CC: freddylinares(a)gmail.com; Alberto Soto; At-Large Staff; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ¿URGENTE - usted ha respondido a la encuesta > para el representante de LACRALO al ALAC para 2011 a 2013? > > Dear All, > > Thanks for the information, ICANN staff will resend the credentials within > 2 > hours. > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > LACRALO Secretariat > > 2011/9/21 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com>: > > > > may be the staff or LACRALO Secretariat can give a prompt response about > this . > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > NCA GNSO Council - ICANN > > former ALAC member by LACRALO > > Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. > > 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > > *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:51:47 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ¿URGENTE - usted ha respondido a la > encuesta > para el representante de LACRALO al ALAC para 2011 a 2013? > > From: freddylinares(a)gmail.com > > To: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > CC: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org; carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com; > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > El mismo caso > > El 21-09-2011 8:50, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos, como hacemos los que no hmos recibido las instrucciones para > > la > > > > ecuesta? Ya reclamè pero no tuve respuesta > > > > > > > > On Wed 21/09/11 09:49 , carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com sent: > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es [1] > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org [2]">http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links: > > > > ------ > > > > [1] > > > > http://tcgis.ibero-americano.org/parse.php?redirect=https://atlarge-li > > sts.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > [2] http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-l... > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > Ab. Arce, Jose Francisco + 54 9 351 6788920 _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e933149c12.html --]]

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Off-topic - E-commerce Regulation
by matias＠altamiragigena.com.ar Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Off-topic - E-commerce Regulation From: matias(a)altamiragigena.com.ar Dear All, It's Been A Long Time since my last LAC-RALO activity! Due to staff and professional demands Matters That all my time, one of Them Would like to share I with you all Which is the Governmental Plan to Regulate the e-commerce in Cordoba. The link That is the presentation FOLLOWS made to the Chamber of Even it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kosmbjp97Qk Commerce in Spanish, I'm sure That You Will Understand ITS main goals. Best, Matias Dear Members of LAC-RALO I am writing after a long absence for personal reasons and professionals in this beautiful community, among which is the Córdoba government's plan to regulate electronic commerce. In this link will see the presentation to the Chamber of Commerce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kosmbjp97Qk Sincerely, Matias Matias Altamira ALTAMIRA Gigen - Legal Study Bv San Juan 101 Piso 2 ° A Córdoba - Rep. Argentina (5000) Tel: +54 351 4281624 / 4221389 matias(a)altamiragigena.com.ar www.altamiragigena.com.ar On 22/09/2011 11:02 a.m., Roxana Goldstein wrote: > Thank you Jacqueline, for clarifying these facts. > > > > I just want to add that I appreciate a lot all the efforts that are being > done to overcome the idiomatic barriers to improve multi-cultural global > governance. > > > > I just wanted to express my fillings about this issue, as I see that it is a > key factor, which emerges in many discussion lists, and that it is not fully > solved yet. > > > > Thanks again, > > Best, > > Roxana > > > > > El 21 de septiembre de 2011 12:21, Jacqueline Morris< > jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> escribiÃ³: > >> Kent's message was sent with the CURRENT system, not the NEW one he >> has been working so hard to set up. It was an update on the work done >> and a guide as to when we should see the new, improved system. I think >> he sent it to explain WHY it has been taking so long,a s it seems to >> be a complex programming problem. >> >> I think that the negative comments should wait until he has >> implemented his solution and we have tried it for a bit. It seems a >> bit ungrateful to pile on him when he's done so much work and say - >> "we don't want any translation", or "you should do even more work". >> >> We should wait until he shows us the new system, try it out and give >> him feedback that can make it work better. I, for one. look forward to >> seeing the result of so much hard work. >> Jacqueline A. Morris >> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and >> Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) >> >> >> >> 2011/9/21<sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org>: >>> Thatâs right Roxana. >>> >>> This was what I meant with my answer. Certainly we appreciate and know >> the effort is being made. But unfortunately we can not use it. >>> Even until we find something better, I think it would be better to get >> the message in its original language and translate it (everyone) by any >> method is more accustomed to using. >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sylvia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> De: Roxana Goldstein [mailto:goldstein.roxana@gmail.com] >>> Enviada em: miÃ©rcoles, 21 de septiembre de 2011 10:35 >>> Para: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org >>> Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Estado del software de la traducciÃ³n >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I think, just as Sylvia, that this result is not good, not enough. >>> >>> >>> >>> I mean, it is impossible to interact effectively using this translation >> tool. All the sense of what anyone would try to say could get lost. >>> >>> >>> WeÂŽve been discussing this topic in several lists, and the conclusions >> have been the same. >>> >>> >>> This is a very important issue for global governance, and thus it still >> deserves more efforts for its improvement. >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your attention, >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Roxana >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> El 20 de septiembre de 2011 16:36,<sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> >> escribiÃ³: >>> Dear Kent >>> If the text below was doing using the new tool, I'm sorry to tell you is >> terrible. >>> We need to find out another solution. >>> Regards, >>> Sylvia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Mensagem original----- >>> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: >> lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de kent(a)icann.org >>> Enviada em: martes, 20 de septiembre de 2011 16:02 >>> Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> Cc: Simon raveh; David closson >>> Assunto: Estado del software de la traducciÃ³n >>> >>> >>> >>> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] >>> >>> Tema: Estado del software de la traducciÃ³n >>> De: kent(a)icann.org >>> >>> hola todo >>> >>> >>> como usted sabe, el interfaz de Google que utilizÃ¡bamos con un cierto >> Ã©xito hace algunos meses<del tbNL> fue continuado. Google lanzÃ³ una >> versiÃ³n comercial no demasiado hace tiempo, y he estado trabajando en la >> incorporaciÃ³n de eso en el software de la traducciÃ³n<del tbNL>. Esto ha >> sido un reparto mÃ¡s grande que tendrÃa pensamiento<del tbNL>, por varias >> razones. >>> >>> la versiÃ³n previa del software utilizÃ³ un interfaz de fines generales de >> la traducciÃ³n que sucediÃ³ apoyar Google, pero desafortunadamente que no lo >> hizo el interfaz de fines generales, vez Ãºltima miraba, trabajo con el nuevo >> API comercial. Era tan necesario recodificar el sistema para utilizar >> directamente el nuevo API.Esto era probablemente una buena cosa a hacer en >> principios generales<del tbNL>, solamente Ã©l wasn' t tan fÃ¡cil como >> uno quisiera. Sin embargo, I ahora tiene este funcionamiento. >>> >>> sin embargo, otro problema emergiÃ³ en mi prueba: el nuevo API es >> producto comercial de a . Miden cuidadosamente cuÃ¡nto texto usted ha >> traducido, y son mÃ¡s terminantes sobre la cantidad de texto que usted puede >> traduce en una sola peticiÃ³n. Particularmente, el lÃmite del defecto para >> la peticiÃ³n de a ahora es alrededor 2000 octetos, y consumen a las partes >> significativas de ese en la plancha de caldera del protocolo. Por otra >> parte, el texto transmitido se debe codificar de una manera que pueda >> ampliar perceptiblemente el nÃºmero de octetos<del tbNL> enviados (para los >> que cuiden, el interfaz es un interfaz del RESTO, el texto<del tbNL> debe >> URI-ser escapado, y de el resto de parÃÂ¡metros cuenta en el lÃÂmite<del >> tbNL> - es 2K para el URL entero). >>> >>> acabamos de volver previamente un error cuando el texto que se >> traducirÃÂ¡ era demasiado grande, pero este nuevo lÃÂmite es tan pequeÃÂ±o >> que es realmente necesario manejar el error de una manera mÃÂ¡s agraciada. >> Estoy ejecutando este cambio en el momento, y espero que sea hecho hoy. >> Si las cosas van segÃÂºn lo previsto, convertirÃÂ© la lista para utilizar el >> nuevo cÃÂ³digo maÃÂ±ana. >>> >>> sin embargo, considere por favor que ha habido cambios internos >> significativos<del tbNL>, tan allÃÂ bien puede ser ediciones. Ãâ°ntreme en >> contacto con por favor >>> (kent(a)icann.org) con cualquier problema que usted pueda encontrar. >>> >>> >>> recuerdos >>> Kent Crispin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d765ebc8dc.html --]]

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Software
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Software From: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com Dear, This is the worst software translation. I think it's damaging the system, does not, add noise and doubles e-mail. When he was President tena much time to read emails LACRALO (not there will be much as wanted) and I did. Today I liked the messages 1 time I arrived, and the text of what each person wrote. LACRALO is more difficult to follow list of all in which I participate. Given the choice, opt to eliminate the system. Regards, Andres Piazza - * Andres Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fe6dacbf3a.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A_RES = 3A_Estado_del_software? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? _de_la_traducci = F3n? =
by goldstein.roxana＠gmail.com Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A_RES = 3A_Estado_del_software? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? _de_la_traducci = F3n? = From: goldstein.roxana(a)gmail.com Thank you Jacqueline, for Clarifying These facts. I just want to add That I appreciate a lot all the Efforts That are Being done to Overcome Barriers to Improve the idiomatic multi-cultural global governance. I just wanted to express my fillings about this issue, as I see it is to That key factor, you emerge in Which Many discussion lists, and That It is Not Fully solved yet. Thanks again, Best, Roxana On September 21, 2011 12:21, Jacqueline Morris < jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: > Kent's message was sent with the CURRENT system, not the NEW one he > has been working so hard to set up. It was an update on the work done > and a guide as to when we should see the new, improved system. I think > he sent it to explain WHY it has been taking so long,a s it seems to > be a complex programming problem. > > I think that the negative comments should wait until he has > implemented his solution and we have tried it for a bit. It seems a > bit ungrateful to pile on him when he's done so much work and say - > "we don't want any translation", or "you should do even more work". > > We should wait until he shows us the new system, try it out and give > him feedback that can make it work better. I, for one. look forward to > seeing the result of so much hard work. > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) > > > > 2011/9/21 <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org>: > > That’s right Roxana. > > > > This was what I meant with my answer. Certainly we appreciate and know > the effort is being made. But unfortunately we can not use it. > > Even until we find something better, I think it would be better to get > the message in its original language and translate it (everyone) by any > method is more accustomed to using. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > De: Roxana Goldstein [mailto:goldstein.roxana@gmail.com] > > Enviada em: miércoles, 21 de septiembre de 2011 10:35 > > Para: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Estado del software de la traducción > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > I think, just as Sylvia, that this result is not good, not enough. > > > > > > > > I mean, it is impossible to interact effectively using this translation > tool. All the sense of what anyone would try to say could get lost. > > > > > > > > We´ve been discussing this topic in several lists, and the conclusions > have been the same. > > > > > > > > This is a very important issue for global governance, and thus it still > deserves more efforts for its improvement. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your attention, > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Roxana > > > > > > > > > > > > El 20 de septiembre de 2011 16:36, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> > escribió: > > > > Dear Kent > > If the text below was doing using the new tool, I'm sorry to tell you is > terrible. > > We need to find out another solution. > > Regards, > > Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de kent(a)icann.org > > Enviada em: martes, 20 de septiembre de 2011 16:02 > > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Cc: Simon raveh; David closson > > Assunto: Estado del software de la traducción > > > > > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > > Tema: Estado del software de la traducción > > De: kent(a)icann.org > > > > hola todo > > > > > > como usted sabe, el interfaz de Google que utilizábamos con un cierto > éxito hace algunos meses <del tbNL> fue continuado. Google lanzó una > versión comercial no demasiado hace tiempo, y he estado trabajando en la > incorporación de eso en el software de la traducción <del tbNL>. Esto ha > sido un reparto más grande que tendría pensamiento <del tbNL>, por varias > razones. > > > > > > la versión previa del software utilizó un interfaz de fines generales de > la traducción que sucedió apoyar Google, pero desafortunadamente que no lo > hizo el interfaz de fines generales, vez última miraba, trabajo con el nuevo > API comercial. Era tan necesario recodificar el sistema para utilizar > directamente el nuevo API.Esto era probablemente una buena cosa a hacer en > principios generales <del tbNL>, solamente él wasn' t tan fácil como > uno quisiera. Sin embargo, I ahora tiene este funcionamiento. > > > > > > sin embargo, otro problema emergió en mi prueba: el nuevo API es > producto comercial de a . Miden cuidadosamente cuánto texto usted ha > traducido, y son más terminantes sobre la cantidad de texto que usted puede > traduce en una sola petición. Particularmente, el límite del defecto para > la petición de a ahora es alrededor 2000 octetos, y consumen a las partes > significativas de ese en la plancha de caldera del protocolo. Por otra > parte, el texto transmitido se debe codificar de una manera que pueda > ampliar perceptiblemente el número de octetos <del tbNL> enviados (para los > que cuiden, el interfaz es un interfaz del RESTO, el texto <del tbNL> debe > URI-ser escapado, y de el resto de parÃ¡metros cuenta en el lÃmite <del > tbNL> - es 2K para el URL entero). > > > > > > acabamos de volver previamente un error cuando el texto que se > traducirÃ¡ era demasiado grande, pero este nuevo lÃmite es tan pequeÃ±o > que es realmente necesario manejar el error de una manera mÃ¡s agraciada. > Estoy ejecutando este cambio en el momento, y espero que sea hecho hoy. > Si las cosas van segÃºn lo previsto, convertirÃ© la lista para utilizar el > nuevo cÃ³digo maÃ±ana. > > > > > > sin embargo, considere por favor que ha habido cambios internos > significativos <del tbNL>, tan allÃ bien puede ser ediciones. Ã‰ntreme en > contacto con por favor > > (kent(a)icann.org) con cualquier problema que usted pueda encontrar. > > > > > > recuerdos > > Kent Crispin > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/20355a5068.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] RES: RES: Estado del software de la traducción
by Jacqueline Morris Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

Kent's message was sent with the CURRENT system, not the NEW one he has been working so hard to set up. It was an update on the work done and a guide as to when we should see the new, improved system. I think he sent it to explain WHY it has been taking so long,a s it seems to be a complex programming problem. I think that the negative comments should wait until he has implemented his solution and we have tried it for a bit. It seems a bit ungrateful to pile on him when he's done so much work and say - "we don't want any translation", or "you should do even more work". We should wait until he shows us the new system, try it out and give him feedback that can make it work better. I, for one. look forward to seeing the result of so much hard work. Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) 2011/9/21 <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org>: > That’s right Roxana. > > This was what I meant with my answer. Certainly we appreciate and know the effort is being made. But unfortunately we can not use it. > Even until we find something better, I think it would be better to get the message in its original language and translate it (everyone) by any method is more accustomed to using. > > Regards, > > Sylvia > > > > > > De: Roxana Goldstein [mailto:goldstein.roxana@gmail.com] > Enviada em: miércoles, 21 de septiembre de 2011 10:35 > Para: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Estado del software de la traducción > > > > Dear all, > > > > I think, just as Sylvia, that this result is not good, not enough. > > > > I mean, it is impossible to interact effectively using this translation tool. All the sense of what anyone would try to say could get lost. > > > > We´ve been discussing this topic in several lists, and the conclusions have been the same. > > > > This is a very important issue for global governance, and thus it still deserves more efforts for its improvement. > > > > Thanks for your attention, > > Best wishes, > > Roxana > > > > > > El 20 de septiembre de 2011 16:36, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> escribió: > > Dear Kent > If the text below was doing using the new tool, I'm sorry to tell you is terrible. > We need to find out another solution. > Regards, > Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de kent(a)icann.org > Enviada em: martes, 20 de septiembre de 2011 16:02 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: Simon raveh; David closson > Assunto: Estado del software de la traducción > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Tema: Estado del software de la traducción > De: kent(a)icann.org > > hola todo > > > como usted sabe, el interfaz de Google que utilizábamos con un cierto éxito hace algunos meses <del tbNL> fue continuado. Google lanzó una versión comercial no demasiado hace tiempo, y he estado trabajando en la incorporación de eso en el software de la traducción <del tbNL>. Esto ha sido un reparto más grande que tendría pensamiento <del tbNL>, por varias razones. > > > la versión previa del software utilizó un interfaz de fines generales de la traducción que sucedió apoyar Google, pero desafortunadamente que no lo hizo el interfaz de fines generales, vez última miraba, trabajo con el nuevo API comercial. Era tan necesario recodificar el sistema para utilizar directamente el nuevo API.Esto era probablemente una buena cosa a hacer en principios generales <del tbNL>, solamente él wasn' t tan fácil como uno quisiera. Sin embargo, I ahora tiene este funcionamiento. > > > sin embargo, otro problema emergió en mi prueba: el nuevo API es producto comercial de a . Miden cuidadosamente cuánto texto usted ha traducido, y son más terminantes sobre la cantidad de texto que usted puede traduce en una sola petición. Particularmente, el límite del defecto para la petición de a ahora es alrededor 2000 octetos, y consumen a las partes significativas de ese en la plancha de caldera del protocolo. Por otra parte, el texto transmitido se debe codificar de una manera que pueda ampliar perceptiblemente el número de octetos <del tbNL> enviados (para los que cuiden, el interfaz es un interfaz del RESTO, el texto <del tbNL> debe URI-ser escapado, y de el resto de parÃ¡metros cuenta en el lÃmite <del tbNL> - es 2K para el URL entero). > > > acabamos de volver previamente un error cuando el texto que se traducirÃ¡ era demasiado grande, pero este nuevo lÃmite es tan pequeÃ±o que es realmente necesario manejar el error de una manera mÃ¡s agraciada. Estoy ejecutando este cambio en el momento, y espero que sea hecho hoy. Si las cosas van segÃºn lo previsto, convertirÃ© la lista para utilizar el nuevo cÃ³digo maÃ±ana. > > > sin embargo, considere por favor que ha habido cambios internos significativos <del tbNL>, tan allÃ bien puede ser ediciones. Ã‰ntreme en contacto con por favor > (kent(a)icann.org) con cualquier problema que usted pueda encontrar. > > > recuerdos > Kent Crispin > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > [[--Original text (en) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ee841ff4a7.html > --]] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =? Utf-8? Q? Estado_de_la_traducci = EF = BF = BDn_del_so? = =? Utf-8? Q? Ftware? =
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Utf-8? Q? Estado_de_la_traducci = EF = BF = BDn_del_so? = =? Utf-8? Q? Ftware? = From: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Kent Thanks for the effort made in this task estn, be attentive to changes and modifications that will be made * Sergio Salinas Porto Association President Internauta Argentina Internet Users Argentina <http://www.internauta.org.ar> Fluid Federacin Latin American Internet User <http://www.fuilain.org> ICANN / LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas MSN / YAHOO MSN / Talk: salinasporto ... Skype: internautaargentina Mobi: +54 215 819 9223 5 * * "Ojalpodamos be disobedient, every time we receive orders to humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "-Eduardo Galeano * On 22/09/2011 4:29 a.m., kent(a)icann.org escribitbNL> > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Estado de la traducción del software > A partir de: kent(a)icann.org > > Hola a todos - Traté de enviar esto un par de días, pero al parecer > no se hizo. > > > Como ustedes saben, la interfaz de Google que se utiliza con cierto éxito algunas > meses se suspendió. Google lanzó una versión no comercial > hace mucho tiempo, y he estado trabajando en la incorporación que en el > traducción de software. Este ha sido un reparto más grande de lo que hubiera > pensamiento, por varias razones. > > > La versión anterior del software que se utiliza una traducción de propósito general > interfaz que le pasó a la asistencia de Google, pero que, lamentablemente, > interfaz de uso general no, última vez que miré, el trabajo con el nuevo > comercial de la API. Por lo que fue necesario volver a codificar el sistema directamente > utilizar la nueva API. Esta fue probablemente una buena cosa que hacer en general, > principios, pero no era tan fácil como uno quisiera. Sin embargo, ahora > tener este trabajo. > > > Sin embargo, otro problema surgido en mis pruebas: la nueva API es un > producto comercial.Cuidadosamente metros la cantidad de texto que han > traducido, y son más estrictas sobre la cantidad de texto que se puede > traducir en una sola solicitud. En particular, el límite predeterminado para un > solicitud está ahora alrededor de 2000 bytes, y es una parte importante de ese > que se consume en el texto modelo de protocolo. Además, el texto transmitido > debe ser codificada en una forma que puede ampliar significativamente el número de > bytes enviados (para los que la atención, la interfaz es una interfaz REST, la > texto debe ser URI de escape, y todos los otros parÃ¡metros de recuento en el > lÃmite - es 2K para la direcciÃ³n URL completa). > > > Anteriormente Acabamos de regresar de un error cuando el texto a traducir se > demasiado grande, pero este nuevo lÃmite es tan pequeÃ±o que lo que realmente es necesario > gestionar el error de una manera mÃ¡s elegante. Este cambio ha sido > implementado, el software ha sido actualizado para incluir todos estos cambios. > TodavÃa es posible obtener un"muy grande" error, si el correo es > formato de tal manera que parece que hay una sentencia de mÃ¡s de > alrededor de mil caracteres, pero la restricciÃ³n general en el tamaÃ±o ha > ha relajado. > > > Por favor, tenga en cuenta que se han producido importantes cambios internos, > por lo que tambiÃ©n puede haber problemas. Por favor, pÃ³ngase en contacto conmigo (kent(a)icann.org) con > cualquier problema que pueda encontrar. > > > Saludos cordiales > Kent Crispin > > > _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9b2151a24d.html --]]

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by josefranciscoarce＠gmail.com Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = BFURGENTE_-_usted_ha_respondido_? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? A_la_encuesta_para_el_representante_de_LACRALO_al_A? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? LAC_para_2011_a_2013 = 3F? = From: josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com Dear Albert and others who did not receive the credentials I am occupying the subject. Apologies case Jose Arce .- On September 22, 2011 9:17, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribitbNL> > Sorry, aún no he recibido nada. > Saludos > Alberto Soto > IIISI > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto:devtee@gmail.com] > Enviado el: miércoles, 21 de septiembre de 2011 02:19 p.m. > Para: carlos dionisio aguirre > CC: freddylinares(a)gmail.com; Alberto Soto; At-Large Staff; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ¿URGENTE - usted ha respondido a la encuesta > para el representante de LACRALO al ALAC para 2011 a 2013? > > Dear All, > > Thanks for the information, ICANN staff will resend the credentials within > 2 > hours. > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > LACRALO Secretariat > > 2011/9/21 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com>: > > > > may be the staff or LACRALO Secretariat can give a prompt response about > this . > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > NCA GNSO Council - ICANN > > former ALAC member by LACRALO > > Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. > > 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > > *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:51:47 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ¿URGENTE - usted ha respondido a la > encuesta > para el representante de LACRALO al ALAC para 2011 a 2013? > > From: freddylinares(a)gmail.com > > To: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > CC: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org; carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com; > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > El mismo caso > > El 21-09-2011 8:50, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos, como hacemos los que no hmos recibido las instrucciones para > > la > > > > ecuesta? Ya reclamè pero no tuve respuesta > > > > > > > > On Wed 21/09/11 09:49 , carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com sent: > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es [1] > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org [2]">http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links: > > > > ------ > > > > [1] > > > > http://tcgis.ibero-americano.org/parse.php?redirect=https://atlarge-li > > sts.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > [2] http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-l... > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > Ab. Arce, Jose Francisco + 54 9 351 6788920 _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8c6250a005.html --]]

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by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = BFURGENTE_-_usted_ha_respondido_? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? A_la_encuesta_para_el_representante_de_LACRALO_al_A? = =? Iso-8859-1? Q? LAC_para_2011_a_2013 = 3F? = From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Sorry, an I have not received anything. Regards Alberto Soto IIISI ----- Original Message ----- From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto: devtee(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Wednesdays, September 21, 2011 2:19 pm To: Carlos Dionisio Aguirre CC: freddylinares(a)gmail.com, Alberto Soto, At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] URGENT - you have responded to the survey LACRALO for the ALAC representative for 2011 to 2013? Dear All, Thanks for the information, ICANN staff Will resend the credentials Within 2 hours. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat Carlos Dionisio Aguirre 2011/9/21 <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> : > > may be the staff or LACRALO Secretariat can give a prompt response about > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > NCA GNSO Council - ICANN > former ALAC member by LACRALO > Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. > 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:51:47 -0500 > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ¿URGENTE - usted ha respondido a la encuesta > From: freddylinares(a)gmail.com > To: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > CC: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org; carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > El mismo caso > El 21-09-2011 8:50, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > > > > > Carlos, como hacemos los que no hmos recibido las instrucciones para > la > > ecuesta? Ya reclamè pero no tuve respuesta > > > > On Wed 21/09/11 09:49 , carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com sent: > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es [1] > > > > http://www.lacralo.org [2]">http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] > > http://tcgis.ibero-americano.org/parse.php?redirect=https://atlarge-li > sts.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > [2] http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-l... > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/cc971e6ead.html --]]

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Translation Software Status
by kent Sept. 22, 2011

Sept. 22, 2011

Hello all -- I tried to send this a couple of days ago, but apparently it didn't go through. As you know, the Google interface we were using with some success a few months ago was discontinued. Google released a commercial version not too long ago, and I have been working on incorporating that into the translation software. This has been a bigger deal than I would have thought, for several reasons. The previous version of the software used a general purpose translation interface that happened to support Google, but unfortunately that general purpose interface did not, last time I looked, work with the new commercial API. So it was necessary to re-code the system to directly use the new API. This was probably a good thing to do on general principles, but it wasn't as easy as one would like. However, I now have this working. However, a further problem emerged in my testing: the new API is a commercial product. They carefully meter how much text you have translated, and they are stricter about the amount of text that you can translate in a single request. In particular, the default limit for a request is now around 2000 bytes, and a significant part of that is consumed in the protocol boilerplate. Moreover, the transmitted text must be encoded in a way that can significantly expand the number of bytes sent (for those that care, the interface is a REST interface, the text must be URI-escaped, and all the other parameters count in the limit - it is 2K for the entire URL). Previously we just returned an error when the text to be translated was too large, but this new limit is so small that it really is necessary to handle the error in a more graceful way. This change has been implemented; the software has been updated to include all these changes. It is still possible to get a "too large" error, if the email is formatted in such a way that it appears there is a sentence longer than about a thousand characters, but the general restriction on size has been relaxed. Please bear in mind that there have been significant internal changes, so there may well be issues. Please contact me (kent(a)icann.org) with any problems you may find. Best Regards Kent Crispin

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My new e-mail address
by eduardodiazrivera＠gmail.com Sept. 21, 2011

Sept. 21, 2011

Hello, I have a new e-mail address Instead of contacting me at eduardodiazrivera(a)gmail.com you can now reach me at my new Hotmail address. Please send all your future e-mail messages to me at eduardodiazrivera(a)hotmail.com. In fact, you can simply reply to this message to contact me. Old E-mail Address: eduardodiazrivera(a)gmail.com New E-mail Address: eduardodiazrivera(a)hotmail.com Be sure to update your address book now. Thank you!

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