September 2011 - lac-discuss-en

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by josefranciscoarce＠gmail.com Sept. 12, 2011

Sept. 12, 2011

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NOTE THE DATE: WEBINAR- JAS WG Final Report - Monday 19 September 2011 @ 12:00 UTC & 22:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Sept. 12, 2011

Sept. 12, 2011

* On behalf of the GNSO Secretariat* Dear All, JAS WG Final Report Webinar Please note the date and time of this webinar. The details about how to join the JAS WG Final Report webinar will follow later. Date: Monday September 19th, 2011. Times: 12:00 UTC and 22:00 UTC Session duration: 90 minutes Structure: Adobe Connect with a slide presentation (ppt) along with a dial-in conference bridge for audio. Sessions are duplicated. Recorded. Intro/moderators: Carlton Samuels, Rafik Dammak, Karla Valente Speakers: Avri Doria and Alan Greenberg. Members from the JAS WG for the Q&A session Thank you. Kind regards, Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org

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Reminder: LACRALO Teleconference - Tuesday 13 September 2011 21:00 UTC
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Sept. 11, 2011

Sept. 11, 2011

Dear All, The next LACRALO teleconference on the LACRALO representative to ALAC is scheduled for Tuesday September 13 September 2011 at 21:00 UTC. The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at https://community.icann.org/x/bgGpAQ If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org -- Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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The next steps in the election of the LACRALO representative to serve on ALAC from 2011-2013
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Sept. 9, 2011

Sept. 9, 2011

Dear All, The deadline for the submission of nominations for the LACRALO representative to serve on ALAC from 2011-2013 was August 31 2011. One nomination was received: * Natalia Enciso, from APADIT, Paraguay Natalia has accepted her nomination, and as discussed on the LACRALO mailing list (https://community.icann.org/x/CgBsAQ) there will be a LACRALO teleconference call. This LACRALO conference call is scheduled for Tuesday September 13 2011 at 21:00 UTC. The intent of the teleconference is for a cordial discussion with the candidate and for the candidate to answer any questions from LACRALO ALS members. Questions for the candidate can be posted on the LACRALO list before the Tuesday call. If the conference call on Tuesday September 13 2011 is quorate (8 or more ALSes are attending the call) and unless there was a request by any ALS to call for a vote, then we would attempt to have the one nominated candidate acclaimed by consensus by those attending the call. If the conference call is NOT quorate, then a simple majority of ALSes in LACRALO (>18 ALSs) is needed to express support for Natalia Enciso to be confirmed as LACRALO representative to ALAC for 2011-2013. A BigPulse poll will be created and ALS representatives will be emailed instructions on how they can express their support. The question on the poll would be "Do you support the nomination of Natalia Enciso as the LACRALO representative to ALAC from the close of the ICANN Annual General Meeting in 2011 until the close of the ICANN AGM in 2013?" with the possible choices of "Yes" or "No" Once more than 18 ALSes have confirmed their support for Natalia Enciso as LACRALO representative to ALAC, then Natalia Enciso will be confirmed as LACRALO representative to ALAC from 2011 to 2013. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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A Defence of Cynicism...or a Rallying Cry?
by Carlton Samuels Sept. 8, 2011

Sept. 8, 2011

I have taken the liberty to forward the following from the discussion thread on the NARALO list to highlight my colleague Evan Leibovitch's thoughtful intervention to two previous posts; I have reformatted the content for readibility. The thread is longer...and maybe this will challenge understanding but...... Carlton ============================== On 7 September 2011 13:31, John R. Levine <johnl(a)iecc.com> responding to <Joly McFie> wrote: > > I take it a large proportion of the multistakeholders, the gnso, and the > > ICANN board, 7 years of process etc, are all as wrong as Milton, are > > similarly not worth the time. > > Yes, of course they are all wrong. As I've said before, ICANN is about as > egregious an example of weak leadership and regulatory capture as can be > imagined. > > > But to more pertinent questions, do you not agree that, as TLDs > > proliferate > > 1) while many will be unimportant, that some - like for instance .asia > > which > > allows trans-regional commercial identity - are going to significantly > > forward human progress, 2) that "protection racket" schemes will founder > > as > > the public becomes more sophisticated, major marks move to .brands, and > > the > > URS becomes a familiar process. 3) that the precise reason that the > > multistakeholder process was initiated in the first place was to avoid EC > > style shenanigans of the type Milton describes? > > No, I do not agree with any of those. That was easy, wasn't it? > > R's, > John > ------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:52:08 -0400 From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] FW: The European Commission Papers on ICANN To: "John R. Levine" <johnl(a)iecc.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi folks. I respect the views of both John and Joly and am somewhat distressed to see them talking at each other rather than to each other. The more time I spend in ICANN At-Large, the more I believe it to be captured in the manner John describes. His cynicism is well-deserved. The pushback against public-interest concerns such as reduced gTLD fees in developing countries and reliable WHOIS date is, to say the least, astonishing. The vitriol launched against Knujon's research and the subsequent personal attacks against its principals have me absolutely convinced that the Bruens are onto something, and touching a very raw nerve. And the funding of registrar outreach events while starving of At-Large ones speaks for itself. ICANN's commitment its the vaunted multi-stakeholder model ebbs and flows depending on the politics of the moment. The fact that the ICANN Board has rejected or ignored every single initiative of At-Large (save for the Summit whose policy recommendations were themselves ALL rejected or ignored) belittles its claim to represent the broader community. Yes, we've been told, At-Large has made tremendous strides. We're respected. We elect someone directly to the Board. Bully for us. Yet the public interest routinely gets trashed in favour of the interests of the domain industry. (Something as seemingly no-brainer as eliminating domain tasting was needlessly drawn out.) And now the governments of the world have woken up to that fact -- thanks to grotesque arrogance of ICANN and its patrons in earlier policy stages -- such that the resulting (and legitimate) debate is whether the cure will be worse than the disease. ICANN has separate sets of openness rules for its contracted parties and everyone else, as At-Large has found when trying to send representatives to ICANN-organized "technical" meetings with registrars. Having said all that, I am still here, not yet having declared my efforts here a waste of time. But I've come close. I *like* to think that ICANN, seeing the oncoming threats from governments, will see "multi-stakeholder" as something else than the "50% domain industry, 50% everyone else" formula which describes the current GNSO. But if that happens it will be a massive change of momentum. Even though the GNSO just came through a major restructuring -- in which the domain industry had far too much influence -- I expect another one is in the cards if ICANN doesn't want its industry capture replaced by government capture. But I also see Joly's points. The namespace needs some new TLDs, if only to relieve (but not correct) a problem of ICANN's own making -- a wild west environment in which having as many names as possible out there is more important than only having names useful to those who are actually looking for or providing Internet content. A few new TLDs, properly marketed, may help remove perception of dot-com as the must-go-to place. It might, but it might just as easily not. And then there are the many communities who think they can duplicate the success of dot-cat. Most are in for a nasty surprise, but some will also survive and maybe even thrive. More depends on the dynamics of the communities themselves than whether the TLD was well-conceived. But some of the efforts are so bad they're unintentionally hilarious< http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=wkvqrzcab&v=001hS7OD_Ihn… >, some are just merely bad, and some are just sad. Every time Tom Lowenhaupt comes on this list to talk up dot-nyc I practically want to cry for him; the more he promotes it, the less viable it seems to be. Still, I guess they have the right to try, but how much pain will the public go through dealing with both the flood and the subsequent contraction? I'm just glad I'm not one of the ones funding any of them, and I myself would fight strongly against using my municipal tax money for, say, dot-toronto. Yes, the process is massively tilted in favour of the domain industry, and the interest of Internet content suppliers and consumers is only indirectly (if ever) considered. The existing domain industry -- registry providers, consultants, registrars and speculators -- stands to make an awful lot of money from investors and communities, most of whom are going to endure a financial evisceration not seen since .... dot-travel. Having said that, while a few new gTLDs are needed we will get far more than we need -- to the disgust of information suppliers and consumers but the delight of the domain industry. John is right that the dam has burst, but Joly is also right that we still need to put up some levees. Personally, I am undecided whether governments could be a worse steward of the name system than the domain industry -- through its proxy, ICANN -- has been so far. One way or the other, the status quo will change. I can hope that the ICANN Board sees what's coming, but history has not offered much optimism. This board can't even manage its own staff. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56 > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------ >

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Condolences to the Internauta Secretary of Youth
by SAMUELS,Carlton A Sept. 2, 2011

Sept. 2, 2011

Dear Sergio: My deepest condolences to you, your organisation and the young man's family. It is always hurtful when the young die young. Carlton ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:32 AM To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] (no subject) [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9a2869d9e8.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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by moni＠abalo-laforgia.com.ar Sept. 2, 2011

Sept. 2, 2011

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by josefranciscoarce＠gmail.com Sept. 2, 2011

Sept. 2, 2011

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by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Sept. 2, 2011

Sept. 2, 2011

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by Vanda UOL Sept. 1, 2011

Sept. 1, 2011

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