November 2013 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Nov. 29, 2013

Nov. 29, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC?? From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com FWIW, since 2011, the ALAC has orchestrated RIRs as closer cooperation with a strategic objective for the AT-Large constituency. Were Encouraged RALOs to find ways and means to determine / associate / Collaborate in progressing mutual interests. Although I live ARIN Within the operational area, I have some Witnessed excellent collaborations with LACNIC in the Caribbean for capacity-building and ICT-driven research. And I, for one, would wish to see them continue. In fact I would wish to see LACNIC Encouraged to expand even beyond. I say again, I support the notion of an MOU with LACNIC. Reasonable men and women can get together and work the details, to our mutual satisfaction. So, might I suggest there appears to be support for the rough consensus notion of an MOU on this list.THEREFORE I would suggest we move forward and volunteer team to be named to work the details with LACNIC Representatives. Once a draft MOU is defined we can always raise a vote to affirm support for the terms. -Carlton ============================== A Carlton Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround * ============================= On Wed, November 27, 2013 at 8:46 PM, <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = > iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??? > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > Vladimir agreement. > > > Point 1 is the one that will be soon and for execution. > According to the result is the remaining continuarcon > > > Regards > > > - > Aida Noblia > _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4fbaa25e2a.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC???
by aidanoblia＠gmail.com Nov. 29, 2013

Nov. 29, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??? From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com Vladimir agreement. Point 1 is the one that will be soon and for execution. According to the result is the remaining continuarcon Regards - Aida Noblia _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b8ebb8c88f.html --]]

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?? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??
by wladimirds＠gmail.com Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject:?? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC?? From: wladimirds(a)gmail.com Dear Friend s s: I agree with Carlos Vera, I think we have two different issues in the table discussion, first the statement about wanting onde sign an agreement, in this case with LACNIC and, secondly the approval or not the final document. For this I propose the following: Vote separately each of the following topics: 1 -. Desire onde Vote on signing an agreement, in this case with LACNIC . 2 - Vote for the conformation of a team to negotiate with LACNIC prepare the final document, and . 3 - vote on the final document when it is ready Such that if the result is negative first Voting exhaust the subject and not necessary to continue with the dems. Until ahmis two pennies :) Greetings to all s _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a418f937a1.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC???
by aidanoblia＠gmail.com Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??? From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com Natalia true, what did presentJosyt sent comments and clarifications in the meeting LACRALO. Anyway the point a) Ral is proposed in which there seems to be greater agreement that is the vote for so not having a MOU. Also I agree on the other two points Ral says, but the specific approach by far is the point) so it will be a pensque I make that advance the Voting then move to the other two points, maybe I can take some more time. Advancement that what these conventions are a type of framework agreement on which in general no specific obligations or down within determined may manifest will be resolved by any of the parts.Normally are beginning to assert a common desire to then developed in other more specific agreements. Level commitment in this home is generally low and only in the conventions derivatives other specifications are established. It will appear that given the purpose of LACNIC, may be important to have a MOU with the agency. Regards - Aida Noblia _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/552d071fac.html --]]

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?? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??
by raulbauer＠yahoo.com.ar Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject:?? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC?? From: raulbauer(a)yahoo.com.ar It seems good to consult on possible ALS MOU with LACNIC, but I think the questions should seek the view of the ALS regarding: a) It is necessary (important / useful) to have a MOU with LACNIC? b) What should be the eventual goal of this MOU? c) If there opinin favorable with respect to sign a MOU with LACNIC, define how and which is responsible for negotiating the MOU and who approves Raul Bauer _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f00d5a67ab.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] q = utf-8 VOTES = C3 = utf-8 B3n_Consulta_sobre_Memorando == q = _de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC????
by cveraq＠gmail.com Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: q = utf-8 VOTES = C3 = utf-8 B3n_Consulta_sobre_Memorando == q = _de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC???? From: cveraq(a)gmail.com I reiterate my proposal: A vote for Jos, who are applying to, have the support asking if the community chooses SI negotiate a settlement. And the text of the agreement is approved by the Assembly. I repeat the question and propose that it is based on the proposal of Sylvia, Lena support this mociny several criteria that are not giving a blank check to negotiate an option but to put in ÚLTIMAS in consideracin for approval of the Assembly of the text to sign. His ALS estde >> agreed to sign a Memorandum of Understanding, WHOSE CONTENT BE APPROVED THIS ASSEMBLY, with LACNIC? Carlos Vera Quintana 0988141143 Sgueme @ cveraq > El 27/11/2013, a las 14:11, DIEGO ALFONSO ACOSTA BASTIDAS <dacostabastidas(a)dtech.ec> escribió: > > Estimada Comunidad > LACRALO > > Es oportuno y prudente tener un texto como término de referencia, que bien > lo puede negociar José y para lo cual no es necesaria una votación de > respaldo por cuanto Presidencia tiene la facultad para hacerlo de > conformidad como lo precisa Humberto. > > Un convenio con el alcance que se pudo apreciar en Buenos Aires no puede > ser un cheque en blanco, es mejor tener el detalle de sus propósitos > esenciales, que como se deja dicho, lo puede traducir de buena manera José > de conformidad con los objetivos de la región. > > Atte > > > Diego Acosta Bastidas > > > > El 27 de noviembre de 2013 12:33, Natalia Enciso > <natalia.enciso(a)gmail.com>escribió: > >> Aída: una aclaración. Yo no presenté el borrador de acuerdo. Lo hizo Jose. >> Yo solo envíe unos comentarios y sugerí algunas modificaciones. >> Lo que se repartió en Buenos Aires es el compilado que hizo Sylvia de >> todos los comentarios recibidos, entre ellos los míos y de Carlos Vera. >> >> Natalia >> >> Enviado desde mi iPhone >> >>> El 27/11/2013, a las 14:22, Aida Noblia <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> escribió: >>> >>> Estimados : >>> >>> Dada la situación planteada me parece una buena idea votar si el acuerdo >> se >>> debe firmar o no. >>> >>> >>> Sería un primer punto que se clarifica para empezar a trabajar luego los >>> otros para evitar esfuerzos inútiles, aunque por lo que ví Alejandro >>> plantea un problema de orden pero no una negativa rotunda a la firma. Su >>> cuestionamiento parece ser de oportunidad más bien: qué se hace primero, >>> quién y qué se debe definir primero y quién y qué después. >>> >>> >>> La afirmación hecha por Andrés en el momento en que Natalia presentó un >>> borrador de acuerdo marco para ser estudiado por la región. Por lo que le >>> entendí a Andrés, no decía tajantemente que Lacnic había resuelto no >>> firmar un acuerdo o que no estaba de acuerdo en firmar un convenio con la >>> región. >>> >>> >>> La opinión de Echavarría según los testimonios de Alberto y José, es de >> que >>> no existe una negativa rotunda a firmar. >>> >>> >>> Planteado esto como está, presentado por Natalia un borrador del acuerdo >>> para su estudio por la región en la última reunión de Lacralo, tengo la >>> impresión de que el voto sería una manera de dar un paso adelante en la >>> resolución del tema y a partir de ahí continuar. >>> >>> >>> >>> A partir de ahí, se puede ir profundizando en el estudio del borrador, al >>> menos irlo viendo, mientras se conversa más profundamente con LACNIC para >>> clarificar su posición y también gestionar el contenido del acuerdo entre >>> ambas partes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Saludos y espero pueda esta reflexión ser útil a la comunidad. >>> -- >>> Aida Noblia >>> _______________________________________________ >>> lac-discuss-es mailing list >>> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >>> >>> http://www.lacralo.org >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-es mailing list >> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> >> http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7057163e4e.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC???
by dacostabastidas＠dtech.ec Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??? From: dacostabastidas(a)dtech.ec Dear Community LACRALO It is appropriate and prudent to have a reference text as trmino that well Josy can negotiate for which a Voting is not necessary to support because President has the power to do Humberto compliance as required. An agreement to the extent that was seen in Buenos Aires can not be a blank check, you better have the detail of their propsitos essential, which is left as such, it can translate good way Jos in accordance with the objectives of the region. Atte Diego Acosta Bastidas The 27 November 2013 12:33, Natalia Enciso <natalia.enciso(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Aída: una aclaración. Yo no presenté el borrador de acuerdo. Lo hizo Jose. > Yo solo envíe unos comentarios y sugerí algunas modificaciones. > Lo que se repartió en Buenos Aires es el compilado que hizo Sylvia de > todos los comentarios recibidos, entre ellos los míos y de Carlos Vera. > > Natalia > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > > El 27/11/2013, a las 14:22, Aida Noblia <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > > > Estimados : > > > > Dada la situación planteada me parece una buena idea votar si el acuerdo > se > > debe firmar o no. > > > > > > Sería un primer punto que se clarifica para empezar a trabajar luego los > > otros para evitar esfuerzos inútiles, aunque por lo que ví Alejandro > > plantea un problema de orden pero no una negativa rotunda a la firma. Su > > cuestionamiento parece ser de oportunidad más bien: qué se hace primero, > > quién y qué se debe definir primero y quién y qué después. > > > > > > La afirmación hecha por Andrés en el momento en que Natalia presentó un > > borrador de acuerdo marco para ser estudiado por la región. Por lo que le > > entendí a Andrés, no decía tajantemente que Lacnic había resuelto no > > firmar un acuerdo o que no estaba de acuerdo en firmar un convenio con la > > región. > > > > > > La opinión de Echavarría según los testimonios de Alberto y José, es de > que > > no existe una negativa rotunda a firmar. > > > > > > Planteado esto como está, presentado por Natalia un borrador del acuerdo > > para su estudio por la región en la última reunión de Lacralo, tengo la > > impresión de que el voto sería una manera de dar un paso adelante en la > > resolución del tema y a partir de ahí continuar. > > > > > > > > A partir de ahí, se puede ir profundizando en el estudio del borrador, al > > menos irlo viendo, mientras se conversa más profundamente con LACNIC para > > clarificar su posición y también gestionar el contenido del acuerdo entre > > ambas partes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saludos y espero pueda esta reflexión ser útil a la comunidad. > > -- > > Aida Noblia > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/52a93989bc.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] q = utf-8 VOTES = C3 = utf-8 B3n_Consulta_sobre_Memorando == q = _de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC????
by natalia.enciso＠gmail.com Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: q = utf-8 VOTES = C3 = utf-8 B3n_Consulta_sobre_Memorando == q = _de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC???? From: natalia.enciso(a)gmail.com Ada: A aclaracin. I do not presentel draft agreement. Jose did. I just ENVE sugeralgunas few comments and modifications. What is Buenos Aires repartien compiled Sylvia made of all comments received, including mos and Carlos Vera. Natalia Sent from my iPhone > El 27/11/2013, a las 14:22, Aida Noblia <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > Estimados : > > Dada la situación planteada me parece una buena idea votar si el acuerdo se > debe firmar o no. > > > Sería un primer punto que se clarifica para empezar a trabajar luego los > otros para evitar esfuerzos inútiles, aunque por lo que ví Alejandro > plantea un problema de orden pero no una negativa rotunda a la firma. Su > cuestionamiento parece ser de oportunidad más bien: qué se hace primero, > quién y qué se debe definir primero y quién y qué después. > > > La afirmación hecha por Andrés en el momento en que Natalia presentó un > borrador de acuerdo marco para ser estudiado por la región. Por lo que le > entendí a Andrés, no decía tajantemente que Lacnic había resuelto no > firmar un acuerdo o que no estaba de acuerdo en firmar un convenio con la > región. > > > La opinión de Echavarría según los testimonios de Alberto y José, es de que > no existe una negativa rotunda a firmar. > > > Planteado esto como está, presentado por Natalia un borrador del acuerdo > para su estudio por la región en la última reunión de Lacralo, tengo la > impresión de que el voto sería una manera de dar un paso adelante en la > resolución del tema y a partir de ahí continuar. > > > > A partir de ahí, se puede ir profundizando en el estudio del borrador, al > menos irlo viendo, mientras se conversa más profundamente con LACNIC para > clarificar su posición y también gestionar el contenido del acuerdo entre > ambas partes. > > > > > > Saludos y espero pueda esta reflexión ser útil a la comunidad. > -- > Aida Noblia > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5451f96493.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC???
by aidanoblia＠gmail.com Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_Consulta_sobre_Memoran VOTES = iso-8859-1 q = do_de_Entendimiento_con_LACNIC??? From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com Estimates: Given the situation raised me like a good idea if the agreement rate should sign or not. It will be a first point to be clarified to start working then intiles other efforts to avoid, though so vAlejandro Order a problem but not an outright rejection of the signature. Its question seems to be more opportunity well: quse done first, quse must first define who and who and qudespus and. The affirmation made by Andres at the time Natalia presentun draft framework agreement for consideration by the region. So that Andres t understand, not deca Lacnic flatly that had not resolved sign an agreement or did not agree to sign an agreement with the region. According Echavarra the view of the testimony of Alberto and Jos, is that there is an outright refusal to sign. Raised this as is presented by Natalia a draft agreement for consideration by the region in the last reunin of Lacralo, I have the impression that the vote will be a way to take a step forward in the resolution of the issue and from ahcontinuar. From ah, you can go deeper into the study of the draft, the less Irlo watching, while talking more deeply with LACNIC clarify their posiciny also manage the content of the agreement between both parties. Greetings and I hope this reflection may be useful to the community. - Aida Noblia _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f8d3fa9002.html --]]

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Call for Volunteers GNSO Policy Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group
by ICANN At-Large Staff Nov. 27, 2013

Nov. 27, 2013

Call for Volunteers GNSO Policy Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group In Brief The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is seeking volunteers to serve on the PDP Working Group (WG) on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information. This WG is expected to make recommendations to the GNSO Council on whether it is desirable to translate or transliterate contact information. In this context, translation is the process of conveying the meaning of text from on language into another; transliteration is the process of representing the characters of one alphabetical or syllabic system of writing by the characters of another, conversion alphabet. Introductory Webinar To provide potential volunteers with an idea of the PDP Process including Working Group procedures and also some background information on the WG's substantive issues, an Introductory Webinar will be held at the following times: Tuesday 10 December 2013, 12.00-13.00UTC - local times: http://tinyurl.com/m2suev5 Wednesday 11 December 2013, 18.00-19.00UTC - local times http://tinyurl.com/kyk5lej To join the webinar please RVSP to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> First meeting If you are interested in joining the Working Group, please contact gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>. The first meeting of the Working Group is currently foreseen to take place in the week of 16 December - a doodle poll will be send out the week prior to determine a convenient meeting time. Background * Following the Recommendations of the Final Report<http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf> of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group, a Final Issue Report<http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/gtlds/transliteration-contact-final-21mar13…> on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information was submitted to the GNSO Council on 21 March 2013 * GNSO Council's initiated<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+13+June+2013> a Policy Development Process (PDP) on the translation and transliteration of contact information on 13 June 2013; Drafting Team was formed and Charter<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.…> submitted to GNSO Council and approved<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> on 20 November 2013. * As part of its deliberations on this issue, Charter stipulates several questions for the PDP WG to consider, including (but not limited to): - Whether it is desirable to translate contact information to a single common language or transliterate contact information to a single common script. - Who should decide who should bear the burden translating contact information to a single common language or transliterating contact information to a single common script. * For more detailed, consult the WG's Charter<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.…> and the GNSO Policy Development Process<http://gnso.icann.org/en/node/31379/> * Note GNSO Council also requested ICANN to commission a study on the commercial feasibility of translation or transliteration systems for internationalized contact data, which is expected to be completed in time to help inform the PDP Working Group in its deliberations. Relevant Documents * Charter Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group (WG) Charter - http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/transliteration-contact-charter-06nov13-en.… * Final Issue Report on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information (http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/gtlds/transliteration-contact-final-21mar13…) * Final Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group (http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf) * GNSO Working Group Guidelines, including charter guidelines (http://gnso.icann.org/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-08apr11-en.pdf)

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