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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy???
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org June 13, 2014

June 13, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy??? From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Alejandro, the intention is not to form a library. Often training please. This is a form of training: searching and reading, and who performs as desired, without impositions. No libraries contain this information, and those that exist in each country with its own laws, do not require any use agreement. The songs, and happily stayed in the past, but is part of all we have to do. For what? A few examples of the many for which we need to know a bit more Personal Data Protection: - ICANN's public consultation on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention1 - New gTLD Program. Personal Data Privacy statement: 1.International transfer ... - Article 29 Data Protection Working Party (Brussels, JUN 2013) - Letter to ICANN Top European Data Protection Board (April 2014). Re: Data collection, retention and l aprivacidad in the context of the contract of Registrars (RAA 2013) - WHOIS Beta. Task Art. 29 - Montevideo Declaration on the future of the internet that cooperation was one of the basic elements of the Strategic Plan 2013-2015 of the Latin America and Caribbean Region. During the comment period, we believe only two people on the first example. Javier Pallero now have an excellent professional whose knowledge on this subject is really outstanding. Also lack training in other subjects such as WHOIS, and other more technical and Security DNSs and several of the same or greater complexity. But we can not do it all together, but together we can do it. Just ask all work together, and one of the forms is giving me time to continue working on it. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Alejandro Pisanty [mailto: apisanty(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:09 pm To: Alberto Soto CC: Javier Pallero; LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protection of Personal Data Privacy Alberto, but ... what would be the discussion? What would be the object that LACRALO do the work of forming a library of laws protecting personal data? We will reverse: Libraries and there, made by professional organizations devoted to the subject of so much privacy as the file and library. To access the laws is best to seek one of these collections and make arrangements for possible use. But above all for what? Are we going to do a project LACRALO - as it should be, with mission, vision, objectives, goals, resources allocated, engagements, charter, iron triangle, accountability ... - comprises confront each region ccTLD with applicable laws in your country? Sounds a little ambitious to do a collection of songs and would have to be very well prepared to undertake it. And sure that there is no better instance - for example, in each country, or the type of Interamerican Observatory Privacy - now you are doing. There is another problem in this field will face as users in some countries in the region: international treaties such as the TPP or TPPA (Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement) include very specific clauses that determine the characteristics of the "whois" in ccTLDs, always in favor commercial interests, particularly those of companies in EU. Are we prepared as LACRALO to address this issue? (I can present more details if required). In associations that represent you, are you in touch with ccTLDs on some of these issues? What positions have our associations? Best regards. Alejandro Pisanty 6/12/2014 10:18 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: Thanks Javier! I think I would ask you please every member of our ALS, to try to send the legislation of your country in this regard.If there is a Law of Protection of Personal Data (the link ...), if it is being fulfilled, if there are other ways to obtain personal data. In several countries there are organizations that provide quasi ghost data against current legislation. It is the foundation we need for a good discussion. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Javier Pallero [mailto: javierjosepallero(a)gmail.com <mailto:javierjosepallero@gmail.com> ] Posted on: Thursday, June 12, 2014 24:11 To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protection of Personal Data Privacy This is interesting because in Argentina Alberto, for example, you can access the name, Tax ID number, ID and data delegation of any registrant https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml In the old system could meet the physical address that was also recorded. But also with the data found in the search that is not hard to figure out. There are certain details (name, national identity, social security or tax identification, occupation, date of birth and address) that the law allows treating Argentina without obtaining the consent of the owner, making them "free circulation". They are showing nic.ar <http://nic.ar><http://nic.ar> And sometimes, these data are too (especially when today analyzing extracts metadata information beyond what is explicit) Our law (and to my knowledge, several in the region) followed by the European Directive 95/46/EC and still current reform process. But at least in the case of Argentina missing something that the European directive itself has: express references to principles of proportionality. Not just about what data may be trafficked freely, but how much is necessary to fulfill the purposes of registration. In what concerns us, it is the proportionality in the data shown and its utility for the public register of holders of country domains point.It would be interesting efecturar a good survey and establish some principles to assess how managers treat ccTLDs in the region (and how they should be treated) data ownership. Finally, in the uk the European Directive does not apply, and almost like USA, laissez faire holds the reins. Also serves to these questions that come to mind for the region. Greetings. Javier J. Pallero http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero> The June 12, 2014, 11:15 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >> Wrote: This is also an important topic to study, and is not technical and legal computer technician. The domain administrator. Uk, unlike the generality of the world, opens more personal data atodos rather to any. Best Regards Alberto Soto http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai <http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-doma…> n-end-privacy _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org - --------------------------- Dr.Alejandro Pisanty UNAM Faculty of Chemistry 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8b17d9662e.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy???
by apisanty＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy??? From: apisanty(a)gmail.com Alberto, but ... what would be the discussion? What would be the object that makes LACRALO work to form a library of data protection laws personal? We will reverse: Libraries thus exist, made by such organizations dedicated both professional privacy issue as the file and library. For access laws is best to seek one of these collections and make agreements for possible use. But above all for what? Are we going to do a project LACRALO - as should be, with mission, vision, objectives, goals, resources allocated, commitments, charter, iron triangle, accountability ... - that consists confront each ccTLD region with applicable laws in your country? Sounds a little ambitious to do a collection of songs and would to be very well prepared to undertake it. And sure there is no best instance - for example, in each country, or the type of the Observatory Privacy Inter - who already are doing. Another problem in this area as users will face some countries in the region: international treaties such as the TPP or TPPA (Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement) include very specific clauses that determine the characteristics of the "whois" in ccTLDs, always favor of commercial interests, particularly those of firms in EU. Are we prepared as LACRALO to address this issue? (I can present more details if required). In associations that represent you, are you in touch with ccTLDs about some of these issues? What positions have our associations? Best regards. Alejandro Pisanty 6/12/2014 10:18 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> : > Gracias Javier! Creo que les pediría por favor, a cada integrante de > nuestras ALSs, que traten de enviarnos la legislación de su país al > respecto. Si existe una Ley de Protección de Datos Personales (el link…), > si la misma se está cumpliendo, si hay otras formas de obtener datos > personales. En varios países hay organizaciones cuasi fantasmas que brindan > datos en contra de la legislación vigente. Es la base que necesitamos para > una buena discusión. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > De: Javier Pallero [mailto:javierjosepallero@gmail.com] > Enviado el: jueves, 12 de junio de 2014 12:11 p.m. > Para: Alberto Soto > CC: LACRALO Español > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protección de datos personales, privacidad > > > > Esto es interesante Alberto pues en la Argentina, por ejemplo, se puede > acceder al nombre, numero de CUIT, DNI y datos de delegación de cualquier > registrante https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml > > En el sistema viejo podía encontrarse la dirección física que se registró > también. Pero igualmente con los datos que se encuentran en la búsqueda eso > no es difícil de averiguar por fuera. > > Hay ciertos datos (nombre, documento nacional de identidad, identificación > tributaria o previsional, ocupación, fecha de nacimiento y domicilio) que > la ley argentina permite tratar sin obtener el consentimiento del titular, > haciéndolos de "libre circulación". Son los que muestra el nic.ar < > http://nic.ar> Y a veces, esos datos son demasiados (máxime cuando hoy > en día el análisis de metadatos extrae información mas allá de lo explícito) > > Nuestra ley (y hasta donde tengo entendido, varias en la región) siguieron > la directiva europea 95/46/EC aún vigente y en proceso de reforma. Pero al > menos en el caso argentino falta algo que la directiva europea sí tiene: > expresas menciones a principios de proporcionalidad. No solo se trata de > qué datos podrán ser traficados libremente, sino de cuánto es necesario > para el cumplimiento de los fines del registro. > > En lo que nos ocupa, se trata de la proporcionalidad respecto de los datos > que se muestran y su utilidad para el registro público de los titulares de > dominios punto país. Sería interesante efecturar un buen relevamiento y > establecer algunos principios para evaluar cómo los administradores de > ccTLDs de la región tratan (y cómo deberían tratar) los datos de > titularidad. > > Para terminar, en el reino unido no aplica la directiva europea, y casi > como en USA, el laissez faire lleva las riendas. Igualmente, sirve para > estas preguntas que se me ocurren para la región. > > Saludos. > > > > > Javier J. Pallero > > http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero> > > > > El 12 de junio de 2014, 11:15, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > escribió: > > Este es un tema también importante para estudiar, y es técnico legal y no > técnico informático. El administrador del dominio .uk , a diferencia de la > generalidad del mundo, abre más datos personales atodos, mejor dicho a > cualquiera. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai > < > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-doma… > > > n-end-privacy > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto: > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org --------------------------- Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM Faculty of Chemistry 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/808c423550.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? UTF-8 q = Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy??
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? UTF-8 q = Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy?? From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Excellent analysis! Carlton On June 12, 2014 4:07 PM, <javierjosepallero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = > utf-8 q = _Privacy??? > From: javierjosepallero(a)gmail.com > > This is interesting since in Argentina Alberto, for example, can be > access the name, Tax ID number, ID and any data delegacin > registrant https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml > > > In the old system the direccinfsica pruning found that registrtbNL> > too. But also with the data found in the search that > It is not difficult to figure out. > > > There are certain details (name, national identity, identification > tax or social security, occupation, date of birth and address) that > Argentina can treat the law without obtaining the consent of the owner, > hacindolos "free circulation". They are showing nic.ar And > Sometimes these data are too (when mxime now gives the analysis of > metadata extracted information more allde what explcito) > > > Our law (and to my knowledge, several in the region) followed > European Directive 95/46/EC and an effective reform process. But > least in the case of Argentina missing something that the European > directive Stiene: > express references to principles of proportionality. Not only is > qudatos podrn being trafficked freely, but how much is needed > to fulfill the purposes of registration. > > > In what concerns us, it is the proportionality in the data > shown and its utility for the public record holders > pas domains point. Efecturar be interesting and a good survey > establish some principles for assessing how managers > ccTLDs in the region treated (ycmo MUST try) data > ownership. > > > Finally, in the uk the European Directive does not apply, and almost > as in USA, laissez faire holds the reins. It also serves to > these questions that come to mind for the region. > > > Greetings. > > > Javier J.Pallero > http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero> > > > > > The June 12, 2014, 11:15 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> > wrote: > > > > Este es un tema también importante para estudiar, y es técnico legal y no > > técnico informático. El administrador del dominio .uk , a diferencia de > la > > generalidad del mundo, abre más datos personales atodos, mejor dicho a > > cualquiera. > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai > > n-end-privacy > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3d46cd491d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy???
by javierjosepallero＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy??? From: javierjosepallero(a)gmail.com This is interesting since in Argentina Alberto, for example, can be access the name, Tax ID number, ID and any data delegacin registrant https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml In the old system the direccinfsica pruning found that registrtbNL> too. But also with the data found in the search that It is not difficult to figure out. There are certain details (name, national identity, identification tax or social security, occupation, date of birth and address) that Argentina can treat the law without obtaining the consent of the owner, hacindolos "free circulation". They are showing nic.ar And Sometimes these data are too (when mxime now gives the analysis of metadata extracted information more allde what explcito) Our law (and to my knowledge, several in the region) followed European Directive 95/46/EC and an effective reform process. But least in the case of Argentina missing something that the European directive Stiene: express references to principles of proportionality. Not only is qudatos podrn being trafficked freely, but how much is needed to fulfill the purposes of registration. In what concerns us, it is the proportionality in the data shown and its utility for the public record holders pas domains point. Efecturar be interesting and a good survey establish some principles for assessing how managers ccTLDs in the region treated (ycmo MUST try) data ownership. Finally, in the uk the European Directive does not apply, and almost as in USA, laissez faire holds the reins. It also serves to these questions that come to mind for the region. Greetings. Javier J.Pallero http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero> The June 12, 2014, 11:15 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: > Este es un tema también importante para estudiar, y es técnico legal y no > técnico informático. El administrador del dominio .uk , a diferencia de la > generalidad del mundo, abre más datos personales atodos, mejor dicho a > cualquiera. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai > n-end-privacy > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5d3c72c997.html --]]

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Fwd: Dial in details Pre-London Policy Update Webinar
by fatimacambronero＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Fwd: Dial in details Pre-London Policy Update Webinar From: fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com Dear, Right now the Pre-London Policy Update Webinar estrealizando. In the mail copied below, to enter data. Best Regards, Fatima Cambronero ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Benedetta Rossi <benedetta.rossi(a)icann.org> Date: 10/06/2014 4:51 GMT-03: 00 Subject: Dial in details Pre-London Policy Update Webinar To: Benedetta Rossi <benedetta.rossi(a)icann.org> Cc: Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes(a)icann.org> Robert Hoggarth < robert.hoggarth @ icann.org>, GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs(a)icann.org> Thank you for your interest in the Pre-London Policy Briefing Update! Please find hereafter the ICANN meeting information for the Pre-London Policy Update Briefing scheduled for: Thursday, 12 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC. 10:00 UTC = 3:00 PDT; 6:00 EDT; 12:00 EST; 15:00 Pakistan; 18:00 Hong Kong; 20:00 Sydney. 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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy???
by amedinagomez＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy??? From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com Alberto in the case of Colombia's Superintendency of Industry and Commerce has the responsibility of carrying out activities related to data protection of Colombian citizens. For this has the corresponding Delegatura <http://www.sic.gov.co/proteccion-de-datos-personales> * Regulations * Act 1581 <http://www.alcaldiabogota.gov.co/sisjur/normas/Norma1.jsp?i=49981> 2012 Act 1266 <http://www.alcaldiabogota.gov.co/sisjur/normas/Norma1.jsp?i=34488#0> of 2008 Decree 886 <http://www.alcaldiabogota.gov.co/sisjur/normas/Norma1.jsp?i=57338#0> of 2014 The June 12, 2014, 10:18, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: > Gracias Javier! Creo que les pedirÃa por favor, a cada integrante de > nuestras ALSs, que traten de enviarnos la legislaciÃ³n de su paÃs al > respecto. Si existe una Ley de ProtecciÃ³n de Datos Personales (el linkâŠ), > si la misma se estÃ¡ cumpliendo, si hay otras formas de obtener datos > personales. En varios paÃses hay organizaciones cuasi fantasmas que brindan > datos en contra de la legislaciÃ³n vigente. Es la base que necesitamos para > una buena discusiÃ³n. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > De: Javier Pallero [mailto:javierjosepallero@gmail.com] > Enviado el: jueves, 12 de junio de 2014 12:11 p.m. > Para: Alberto Soto > CC: LACRALO EspaÃ±ol > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ProtecciÃ³n de datos personales, privacidad > > > > Esto es interesante Alberto pues en la Argentina, por ejemplo, se puede > acceder al nombre, numero de CUIT, DNI y datos de delegaciÃ³n de cualquier > registrante https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml > > En el sistema viejo podÃa encontrarse la direcciÃ³n fÃsica que se registrÃ³ > tambiÃ©n. Pero igualmente con los datos que se encuentran en la bÃºsqueda eso > no es difÃcil de averiguar por fuera. > > Hay ciertos datos (nombre, documento nacional de identidad, identificaciÃ³n > tributaria o previsional, ocupaciÃ³n, fecha de nacimiento y domicilio) que > la ley argentina permite tratar sin obtener el consentimiento del titular, > haciÃ©ndolos de "libre circulaciÃ³n". Son los que muestra el nic.ar < > http://nic.ar> Y a veces, esos datos son demasiados (mÃ¡xime cuando hoy > en dÃa el anÃ¡lisis de metadatos extrae informaciÃ³n mas allÃ¡ de lo explÃcito) > > Nuestra ley (y hasta donde tengo entendido, varias en la regiÃ³n) siguieron > la directiva europea 95/46/EC aÃºn vigente y en proceso de reforma. Pero al > menos en el caso argentino falta algo que la directiva europea sÃ tiene: > expresas menciones a principios de proporcionalidad. No solo se trata de > quÃ© datos podrÃ¡n ser traficados libremente, sino de cuÃ¡nto es necesario > para el cumplimiento de los fines del registro. > > En lo que nos ocupa, se trata de la proporcionalidad respecto de los datos > que se muestran y su utilidad para el registro pÃºblico de los titulares de > dominios punto paÃs. SerÃa interesante efecturar un buen relevamiento y > establecer algunos principios para evaluar cÃ³mo los administradores de > ccTLDs de la regiÃ³n tratan (y cÃ³mo deberÃan tratar) los datos de > titularidad. > > Para terminar, en el reino unido no aplica la directiva europea, y casi > como en USA, el laissez faire lleva las riendas. Igualmente, sirve para > estas preguntas que se me ocurren para la regiÃ³n. > > Saludos. > > > > > Javier J. Pallero > > http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero> > > > > El 12 de junio de 2014, 11:15, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > escribiÃ³: > > Este es un tema tambiÃ©n importante para estudiar, y es tÃ©cnico legal y no > tÃ©cnico informÃ¡tico. El administrador del dominio .uk , a diferencia de la > generalidad del mundo, abre mÃ¡s datos personales atodos, mejor dicho a > cualquiera. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai > < > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-doma… > > > n-end-privacy > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto: > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > Antonio Gómez Medina President Colombian Association of Internet Users I presidencia(a)acui.co @ Amedinagomez Skype amedinagomez Cell 3118689626 _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3a6db0bb7e.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy???
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q Protection = C3 = 2C == B3n_de_datos_personales = utf-8 q = _Privacy??? From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Thanks Javier! I think I would ask you please every member of our ALS, to try to send the legislation of your country in this regard. If there is a Law of Protection of Personal Data (the link ...), if it is being fulfilled, if there are other ways to obtain personal data. In several countries there are organizations that provide quasi ghost data against current legislation. It is the foundation we need for a good discussion. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Javier Pallero [mailto: javierjosepallero(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Thursday, June 12, 2014 24:11 To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protection of Personal Data Privacy This is interesting because in Argentina Alberto, for example, you can access the name, Tax ID number, ID and data delegation of any registrant https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml In the old system could meet the physical address that was also recorded. But also with the data found in the search that is not hard to figure out. There are certain details (name, national identity, social security or tax identification, occupation, date of birth and address) that the law allows treating Argentina without obtaining the consent of the owner, making them "free circulation". They are showing nic.ar <http://nic.ar> And sometimes, these data are too (especially when today analyzing extracts metadata information beyond what is explicit) Our law (and to my knowledge, several in the region) followed by the European Directive 95/46/EC and still current reform process. But at least in the case of Argentina missing something that the European directive itself has: express references to principles of proportionality.Not just about what data may be trafficked freely, but how much is necessary to fulfill the purposes of registration. In what concerns us, it is the proportionality in the data shown and its utility for the public register of holders of country domains point. It would be interesting efecturar a good survey and establish some principles to assess how managers treat ccTLDs in the region (and how they should be treated) data ownership. Finally, in the uk the European Directive does not apply, and almost like USA, laissez faire holds the reins. Also serves to these questions that come to mind for the region. Greetings. Javier J. Pallero http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero> The June 12, 2014, 11:15 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > Wrote: This is also an important topic to study, and is not technical and legal computer technician. The domain administrator. Uk, unlike the generality of the world, opens more personal data atodos rather to any. Best Regards Alberto Soto http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai <http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-doma…> n-end-privacy _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c9ca5f74ff.html --]]

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? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_de_datos_personales Protection = iso-8859-1 = q = 2C_privacidad???
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_de_datos_personales Protection = iso-8859-1 = q = 2C_privacidad??? From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org This is also important to study subject, and is not legal technician informtico technician. The domain administrator. Uk, unlike the generality of the world, open ms personal data atodos rather to any. Best Regards Alberto Soto http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai n-end-privacy _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/282e57690d.html --]]

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by fatimacambronero＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject:??? = Iso-8859-1 q = Fwd 3A_ = 5BInternet == 5D_No_hay_-gov = iso-8859-1 = q m = E1s_direcciones_IPv4/_N E3o_h = E1_mais_endere = iso-E7os ==? 8859-1? q? _IPv4_/_No_more_IPv4_addresses? = From: fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com FYI, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ernesto Majo <ernesto(a)lacnic.net> Date: June 10, 2014, 11:58 AM Subject: [Internet-gov] No more IPv4 addresses / Nohmais endereos IPv4 / No more IPv4 addresses To: internet-gov(a)lacnic.net [Portugus abaixo] [Inglés below] No more IPv4 addresses in Latin America and the Caribbean region today ingresdefinitivamente at the stage of exhaustion of the old technology of Internet (IPv4); concerned lag in the deployment of the new IPv6 protocol networks in the region. * The House Latinoamrica Internet and the Caribbean, June 10, -. The Internet Address Registry for Latin America and the Caribbean (LACNIC), responsible for the allocation of resources to this region, anuncihoy depletion of IPv4 addresses and expressu preocupacin by delay operators and governments to deploy the Internet Protocol (IPv6) in the region. LACNIC informhoy that having reached the height of 4,194,302 addresses IPv4 in your stock, restrictive policies begin to take effect for delivery Internet resources on the continent, which in practice means the exhaustion of IPv4 addresses to network operators in Latin America and the Caribbean. "We are facing a historical fact not to be expected and announced, is less important, "afirmel CEO of LACNIC, Ral Echeberra," from Today LACNIC and National Registers podrn allocate quantities only very pequeas of insufficient IPv4 addresses to meet the needs of our region. "The organization has delivered more than 186 million IPv4 addresses in Latin America and the Caribbean since the beginning of its operations in 2002. Further information: http://www.lacnic.net/web/anuncios/2014-no-hay-mas-direcciones-ipv4-en-lac -------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Nohmais endereos na IPv4 Latin America Caribbean Hoje eo to regio Entrou definitely esgotamento phase na da da Velha technology Internet (IPv4); backwardness concerned implementao novo na do IPv6 protocol nas da regional networks. * A Casa da da internet eo Latin America Caribbean junho 10 -. * O Register of Endereamento da internet eo to Latin America Caribbean (LACNIC), responsvel pela designao essa regional resource, or anunciou hoje esgotamento do rapier two IPv4 endereos e pela sua expressou preocupao takes two operators and implement Governos em or Internet protocol gives (IPv6) regio na. LACNIC informou hoje that you atingido tendo em seu IPv4 4194302 endereos rapier, ensnare em for vigor restritivas policies to deliver resources da Internet no continent, na prtica esgotamento significam or two I do endereos IPv4 for network operators na eo Caribbean Latin America. "We're um by means of historical sulfate not to be expected and announced, less important "or CEO of LACNIC afirmou, Ral Echeberra." From LACNIC agora e os Nacionais Records somente podem designate quantidades muito of endereos IPv4 small, insufficient to meet s necessidades nossa regal ".A organizaojentregou mais 186 milhes of IPv4 endereos eo na Caribbean from Latin America or depiction of operaes em suas 2002. Mais informaes: http://www.lacnic.net/pt/web/anuncios/2014-no-hay-mas-direcciones-ipv4-en-l… -------------------------------------------------- ---------------- No more IPv4 addresses in Latin America and the Caribbean Latin America and the Caribbean have Entered the IPv4 exhaustion phase; the delay in deploying Internet Protocol version 6 in our region is cause for concern. * The House Latinoamrica Internet and the Caribbean, 10 June -. * Today, the Internet Address Registry for Latin America and the Caribbean (LACNIC), the Assigning organization responsible for Internet resources in the region, Announced the exhaustion of its IPv4 address pool and Expressed its concern Regarding the fact THROUGHOUT That Governments operators and the region are delaying the deployment of Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6). Reported That LACNIC its pool of available IPv4 addresses Reached the 4,194,302 mark, and this has triggered stricter That Internet resource assignment policies for the continent. In practice, This Means That IPv4 addresses are now exhausted for Latin American and Caribbean operators. "This is an historic event, the fact That it was anticipated and Announced does not make it any less significant, "said Ral Echeberra, LACNIC's CEO. "From now on, LACNIC and its National Registries will only be able to assign very small numbers of IPv4 addresses, and will not be enough These To Satisfy our region's needs. "Since It Began operating in 2002, the Assigned organization has more than 182 million IPv4 addresses THROUGHOUT Latin America and the Caribbean. More information: http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/anuncios/2014-no-hay-mas-direcciones-ipv4-en-l… - [Image: Embedded Image] * Mara Gayo * Communications Coordinator Communications Coordinator * # 4206 * [Image: Embedded Image] * House Latinoamrica Internet and the Caribbean * Rambla Rep.of Mexico 6125 11400 Montevideo-Uruguay +598 2604 22 22 www.lacnic.net _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e902eff0ea.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: ICANN News Alert - DNS Risk Assessment (1st Iteration) for Public Consultation
by apisanty＠gmail.com June 12, 2014

June 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: ICANN News Alert - DNS Risk Assessment (1st Iteration) for Public Consultation From: apisanty(a)gmail.com Vanda, is gratifying to see that we agree again in the view that we advocated for years. For more we perfect forms representation, do parties with nice music (legal) and we increase the budgets available for LACRALO, if we do not address the matter of background are not serving users. I see your post as a great call attention to focus on what essential programs and restart capacitacin seriously, attending to current issues slidas bases. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, June 11, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: > Gracias Alex, de facto relevantes. Las cuestiones de riesgo son más y más > la alma de ICANN. Nosotros debemos nos enterar más a fondo en estos > asuntos porque son relevantes para la seguridad de los usuarios.. Ya pasó > el tiempo de no tener atención para cuestiones técnicas con la disculpa > que nuestros ojos están mirando los usuarios. Ocurre que si no miramos los > puntos técnicos relevantes que afectan los usuarios quien va mirar por > ellos? > Mis 2 centavos. > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > On 6/11/14, 15:09, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >Colegas, > > > >otro tema relevante en la conjunción tecnología/sociedad es la > >estabilidad, > >seguridad y robustez del sistema de nombres de dominio (DNS). ICANN ha > >realizado una serie de tareas sucesivas para promover estas tres > >conductas. > >En este momento, en el anuncio anexo, pueden Uds. ver una actividad > >esencial, la creación de un Marco de Administración de Riesgos para el > >DNS, > >a nivel del Board. > > > >Los documentos que se señalan aquí son de gran importancia e interés. En > >particular atraigo su atención a la definición del alcance de las > >responsabilidades de los distintos actores, que puede ser objeto de > >controversia y por ello de comentarios en los foros señalados ahí mismo. > > > >Saludos cordiales, > > > >Alejandro Pisanty > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > >Date: Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM > >Subject: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- DNS Risk Assessment (1st > >Iteration) for Public Consultation > >To: "ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" < > >ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > > > > >[http://www.icann.org/images/gradlogo_bow.jpg]<http://www.icann.org/> > >News Alert > > > >https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-05-28-en > > > >________________________________ > >DNS Risk Assessment (1st Iteration) for Public Consultation > > > >28 May 2014 > > > >In November 2013 at ICANN 48 in Buenos Aires, the ICANN Board adopted the > >ICANN DNS Risk Management Framework ("Framework") and in February 2014 a > >group of selected ICANN staff undertook an initial (limited scope) DNS > >risk > >assessment using the Framework. > > > >The initial DNS risk assessment was intended to serve as a pilot, given > >the > >evolutionary nature of the Internet and ICANN's multi-stakeholder model. > > > >The results of this assessment can be found here< > > > http://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/dns-risk-consultation-28may14-e > >n.pdf> > >[PDF, 432 KB] in the form of a consultation paper for the community. In > >addition, an accompanying risk categorization reflecting the risks > >initially identified can be found within the 'resilience model' within > >this > >link< > > > http://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/dns-resilience-model-28may14-en > >.pdf> > >[PDF, 312 KB]. > > > >In ICANN 50 in London, ICANN intends on holding a session with the > >community to discuss the consultation paper, the questions posed in that > >paper and the initial risks identified. > > > >It is intended to use the consultation feedback to make further > >refinements > >to the assessment process. Future risk assessments are expected to > >actively > >involve the community and include the development of risk remediation > >strategies and plans. > > > >View the ICANN DNS Risk Assessment (1st Iteration) video: > >https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-05-28-en#video > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ALAC-Announce mailing list > >ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce > > > >At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > >-- > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >Facultad de Química UNAM > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >_______________________________________________ > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > --------------------------- Dr.Alejandro Pisanty UNAM Faculty of Chemistry 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/beb49be53b.html --]]

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