January 2015 - lac-discuss-en

RES: Replacement for Humberto for Singapore
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: RES: Replacement for Humberto for Singapore From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Alberto: One idea: According to my understanding the monthly LACRALO reunin be the 16/02 (Third Monday of each month), so as ICANN 52 habrterminado. But even if not as I propose that the reunin is changed to 23/02. And this for several reasons I speak from experience, since I aslo hacamos Jose Arce and when ramos officers. Since the monthly call is for the majority of the region participate, 8 hours apart almost impossible the participation of the Members who are not in Singapore. They will be cut all members in Singapore They will have many meetings to participate and a very full agenda. And if our monthly reunin ICANN after 52 is all the podrn participants provide fresh face to the community news. Just a thought .... Regards Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Leite Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org ALAC-LACRALO Delegate to NomComm 2014-2015 One World, One Internet Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 ALAC former Member 2009-2011 - http://atlarge.icann.org Skype: sylvia_leite ----- Original ----- Mensagem From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Alberto Thicket Posted in: Wednesdays, January 21, 2015 13:22 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Replacement for Humberto for Singapore Dear Carlton, really do not busqumi convenience as it may seem. Intentmantener a coordinated reunin a major operation, perhaps the most important issue of Transition by IANA. Being alone in Los No Angeles logrcubrir all meetings, so I needed someone. The other members of LACRALO who attend have their own obligations. But that mereciopiniones dissenters. Not that I do not share those views and I regret that seems discriminatory both those who speak only inglso to speak only Spanish. I just want to mention that in my Portugusa our management is incorporel monthly meetings. I try to be more inclusive as possible, but never discriminatory. I thank all collaborations and solo tendrque up every very early days and some days without lunch, but that they result that drop some weight, which suits me. I regret that my message seems wrong. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Posted on: Wednesdays, January 21, 2015 11:45 am To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Replacement for Humberto for Singapore [[--Translated Text (en -> en) -]] Subject: Re: Replacement for Humberto for Singapore From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com My dear friend Alberto: While I understand your situation difficult, please permtame disagree with you. She is very easy to combine their immediate needs with that of LACRALO. But in this case is not necessarily as. My use of the word "beginning" To signal my opposition intended to convey the sense of its meaning more conservative. Sylvia Tomel time to explore the beginning I referred in more detail. My thanks to her. When language is used as a delimiter, sends the message wrong. We see fruit in the culmination of that unfortunate ISOC exchange between Mexico and Barbados Bango. As Sylvia sealalgunos of us have worked hard to remove language as a barrier to efforts LACRALO.By Therefore, it is reasonable and not unreasonable you read this insertion as intention to exclude. My preeminent interest is not going to Singapur.Como was quin note by now, have proposed other candidates using standards that think what will make universal. Ironically, Carlos, Sergio and others will excluded in earlier days to make their contributions to LACRALO if which now proposed language adoptdiscriminante. For registration and hopefully, with your understanding. Best, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, planning, Government, Evaluaciny delivery * ============================= The sea, January 20, 2015 at 10:24 PM <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> i wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Dear Silvia, under the malasinterpetaciones and given the short time > available, I viajarsolo to Singapore. For monthly reunin where > formally the presence of someone who desempee as is necessary > Secretary, see if Leon, Vanda or Ftima can desempear this function. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] In the name > of Alberto Thicket Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56 pm > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: > person > LACRALO to travel Singapore. > > > Dear Silvia, just answer Carlton on the same cuestin. > Just trying to Humberto is replaced with the same functionality with > which we are working. This is not a prize, only replacement requires > some peculiarities. > And as I said before, I think my behavior through the years not worth > a qualification of this type. > If this causes problems, then I withdraw the proposed replacement and > see how achievement desempear my duties during the meeting in Singapore. > I was alone in Los Angeles and hope to arreglrmelas again. > For Monthly Reunin, you will ask Len, Ftima or Vanda that desempeen > the function of Secretariat. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:18 > pm > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to > travel Singapore. > Importance: High > > > Dear all: > I'm surprised with the request condition of bilingualism posed > Alberto. And also catches my attention that this issue has been raised > directly and tried to resolve the monthly teleconference without > after consulting the list of LACRALO. > I totally agree with Carlton and I am absolutely opposed to this > given exclusive. And like Carlton advise the ALS to be express in the > same way. > It seems long gone and who makes this proposal (Alberto) seems not > LACRALO have been part of since its inception. > These issues have already been discussed extensively and luckily > RESOLVED to post a general understanding that we are a region mainly > two major languages \u200b\u200b(although we have ms) and either > (espaol and English) are most important one another. > I do not think I'm writing this on the day today after so many years > of attempts at union between Latinoamrica and Caribbean !!! > > > I want to nominate Sergio Salinas Porto for his work tirelessly since > always LACRALO, including without ningn official position that would > to. Also, currently, Sergio is leading two workgroups in our region > and I think it is an excellent member of LACRALO for represent us in > Singapore. > No ms, > Best regards, > Sylvia > > > ___________________________________________________ > Sylvia Leite Herlein > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > ALAC-LACRALO NomComm 2014-2015 Delegate to One World, One Internet > > > Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 > ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 2009-2011 Member ALAC ex - > http://atlarge.icann.org > Skype: sylvia_leite > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. > From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > FWIW, LACRALO can not make this request condition language. This is > intrinsically discriminatory and do not defend the interests of LACRALO. > > > > > Record that, unless it withdraws objection will be allowed in > principle, and advise all ALS Caribbean to do the same. > > > > > -Carlton > > > > The sea, January 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm, Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> i wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > > > > ================================= > > Dear all > > > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a > traveler > > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested > > yesterday in our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos > > Aguirre. He can help > us > > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity > building > > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only > > condition would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and > > that he/she does not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alberto Soto > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9e5c9fa45b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Replacement for Humberto for Singapore
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Replacement for Humberto for Singapore From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear Carlton, really do not busqumi convenience as it may seem. Intentmantener a coordinated reunin a major operation, perhaps the most important issue of Transition by IANA. Being alone in Los No Angeles logrcubrir all meetings, so I needed someone. The other members of LACRALO who attend have their own obligations. But that mereciopiniones dissenters. Not that I do not share those views and I regret that seems discriminatory both those who speak only inglso to speak only Spanish. I just want to mention that in my Portugusa our management is incorporel monthly meetings. I try to be more inclusive as possible, but never discriminatory. I thank all collaborations and solo tendrque up every very early days and some days without lunch, but that they result that drop some weight, which suits me. I regret that my message seems wrong. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Posted on: Wednesdays, January 21, 2015 11:45 a.m. To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Replacement for Humberto for Singapore [[--Translated Text (en -> en) -]] Subject: Re: Replacement for Humberto for Singapore From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com My dear friend Alberto: While I understand your situation difficult, please permtame disagree with you. She is very easy to combine their immediate needs with that of LACRALO. But in this case is not necessarily as. My use of the word "beginning" To signal my opposition intended to convey the sense of its meaning more conservative.Sylvia Tomel time to explore the beginning I referred in more detail. My thanks to her. When language is used as a delimiter, sends the message wrong. We see fruit in the culmination of that unfortunate ISOC exchange between Mexico and Barbados Bango. As Sylvia sealalgunos of us have worked hard to remove language as a barrier to efforts LACRALO. By Therefore, it is reasonable and not unreasonable you read this insertion as intention to exclude. My preeminent interest is not going to Singapur.Como was quin note by now, have proposed other candidates using standards that think what will make universal. Ironically, Carlos, Sergio and others will excluded in earlier days to make their contributions to LACRALO if which now proposed language adoptdiscriminante. For registration and hopefully, with your understanding. Best, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, planning, Government, Evaluaciny delivery * ============================= The sea, January 20, 2015 at 10:24 PM <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> i wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Dear Silvia, under the malasinterpetaciones and given the short > time available, I viajarsolo to Singapore. For monthly reunin where > formally the presence of someone who desempee as is necessary > Secretary, see if Leon, Vanda or Ftima can desempear this function. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] In the name of > Alberto > Thicket > Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56 pm > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: > person > LACRALO to travel Singapore. > > > Dear Silvia, just answer Carlton on the same cuestin. > Just trying to Humberto is replaced with the same functionality with > which we are working. This is not a prize, only replacement > requires some peculiarities. > And as I said before, I think my behavior through the years not worth a > qualification of this type. > If this causes problems, then I withdraw the proposed replacement and see > how achievement desempear my duties during the meeting in Singapore. > I was alone in Los Angeles and hope to arreglrmelas again. > For Monthly Reunin, you will ask Len, Ftima or Vanda that desempeen > the function of Secretariat. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:18 > pm > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel > Singapore. > Importance: High > > > Dear all: > I'm surprised with the request condition of bilingualism posed > Alberto. And also catches my attention that this issue has been raised > directly and tried to resolve the monthly teleconference without > after consulting the list of LACRALO. > I totally agree with Carlton and I am absolutely opposed to this > given exclusive. And like Carlton advise the ALS to be > express in the same way. > It seems long gone and who makes this proposal (Alberto) seems not > LACRALO have been part of since its inception. > These issues have already been discussed extensively and luckily RESOLVED > to post > a general understanding that we are a region mainly two > major languages \u200b\u200b(although we have ms) and either (espaol > and English) are most important one another. > I do not think I'm writing this on the day today after so many years of > attempts at union between Latinoamrica and Caribbean !!! > > > I want to nominate Sergio Salinas Porto for his work tirelessly since > always LACRALO, including without ningn official position that would > to. Also, currently, Sergio is leading two workgroups > in our region and I think it is an excellent member of LACRALO for > represent us in Singapore. > No ms, > Best regards, > Sylvia > > > ___________________________________________________ > Sylvia Leite Herlein > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > ALAC-LACRALO NomComm 2014-2015 Delegate to One World, One Internet > > > Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 > ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 2009-2011 Member ALAC ex - > http://atlarge.icann.org > Skype: sylvia_leite > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. > From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > FWIW, LACRALO can not make this request condition language. This is > intrinsically discriminatory and do not defend the interests of LACRALO. > > > > > Record that, unless it withdraws objection will be allowed in > principle, and advise all ALS Caribbean to do the same. > > > > > -Carlton > > > > The sea, January 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm, Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > i wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > > > > ================================= > > Dear all > > > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a > traveler > > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in > > our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help > us > > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity > building > > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition > > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does > > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alberto Soto > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a66f499a8d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Replacement for Humberto for Singapore
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Replacement for Humberto for Singapore From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com My Dear Friend Alberto: While I understand your plight, por favor permit me to disagree with you. It is real easy to conflate your immediate needs With That of LACRALO. But in esta case it is not Necessarily So. My use of the word 'principle' to signal my opposition was Intended to The most conservative convey sense of Its meaning. Sylvia took the time to I explore the principle Referred in Greater detail. My thanks to her. When you use language as a delimiter, it SENDS the wrong message. We see STI fruit in the culmination of That unfortunate exchange Between ISOC Bango Mexico and Barbados. As Sylvia pointed out, some of us Have Worked very hard to remove language as a barrier to LACRALO's efforts. THEREFORE It is reasonable and not irrational for one to read this insertion as intention to exclude. My preeminent interest is not acerca Who Goes to Singapore.As you'd note by now, others Have other candidates using standards Proposed They would think be universal. Ironically, Carlos, Sergio and others would Have Been Earlier in days excluded from making their contributions Issue to LACRALO if the Proposed language discriminant now was ADOPTED. For the record and hopefully, with your understanding. Best, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround * ============================= On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:24 PM, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Dear Silvia, under the malasinterpetaciones and given the short > time available, I viajarsolo to Singapore. For monthly reunin where > formally the presence of someone who desempee as is necessary > Secretary, see if Leon, Vanda or Ftima can desempear this function. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] In the name of > Alberto > Thicket > Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56 pm > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: > person > LACRALO to travel Singapore. > > > Dear Silvia, just answer Carlton on the same cuestin. > Just trying to Humberto is replaced with the same functionality with > which we are working. This is not a prize, only replacement > requires some peculiarities. > And as I said before, I think my behavior through the years not worth a > qualification of this type. > If this causes problems, then I withdraw the proposed replacement and see > how achievement desempear my duties during the meeting in Singapore. > I was alone in Los Angeles and hope to arreglrmelas again. > For Monthly Reunin, you will ask Len, Ftima or Vanda that desempeen > the function of Secretariat. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:18 > pm > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel > Singapore. > Importance: High > > > Dear all: > I'm surprised with the request condition of bilingualism posed > Alberto. And also catches my attention that this issue has been raised > directly and tried to resolve the monthly teleconference without > after consulting the list of LACRALO. > I totally agree with Carlton and I am absolutely opposed to this > given exclusive. And like Carlton advise the ALS to be > express in the same way. > It seems long gone and who makes this proposal (Alberto) seems not > LACRALO have been part of since its inception. > These issues have already been discussed extensively and luckily RESOLVED > to post > a general understanding that we are a region mainly two > major languages \u200b\u200b(although we have ms) and either (espaol > and English) are most important one another. > I do not think I'm writing this on the day today after so many years of > attempts at union between Latinoamrica and Caribbean !!! > > > I want to nominate Sergio Salinas Porto for his work tirelessly since > always LACRALO, including without ningn official position that would force > to. Also, currently, Sergio is leading two workgroups > in our region and I think it is an excellent member of LACRALO for > represent us in Singapore. > No ms, > Best regards, > Sylvia > > > ___________________________________________________ > Sylvia Leite Herlein > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > ALAC-LACRALO NomComm 2014-2015 Delegate to One World, One Internet > > > Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 > ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 2009-2011 Member ALAC ex - > http://atlarge.icann.org > Skype: sylvia_leite > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. > From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > FWIW, LACRALO can not make this request condition language. This is > intrinsically discriminatory and do not defend the interests of LACRALO. > > > > > Record that, unless it withdraws objection will be allowed in > principle, and advise all ALS Caribbean to do the same. > > > > > -Carlton > > > > The sea, January 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm, Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > i wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > > > > ================================= > > Dear all > > > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a > traveler > > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in > > our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help > us > > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity > building > > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition > > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does > > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alberto Soto > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5dff67633a.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Replacement for Humberto for Singapore
by Carlton Samuels Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

My Dear Friend Alberto: While I understand your plight, please permit me to disagree with you. It is real easy to conflate your immediate needs with that of LACRALO. But in this case it is not necessarily so. My use of the word 'principle' to signal my opposition was intended to convey the most conservative sense of its meaning. Sylvia took the time to explore the principle I referred in greater detail. My thanks to her. When you use language as a delimiter, it sends the wrong message. We see its fruit in the culmination of that unfortunate exchange between ISOC Mexico and Bango Barbados. As Sylvia pointed out, some of us have worked very hard to remove language as a barrier to LACRALO's efforts. It is therefore reasonable and not irrational for one to read this insertion as intention to exclude. My preeminent interest is not about who goes to Singapore. As you'd note by now, others have proposed other candidates using standards they think would be universal. Ironically, Carlos, Sergio and others would have been excluded in earlier days from making their contributions to LACRALO if the language discriminant now proposed was adopted. For the record and hopefully, with your understanding. Best, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:24 PM, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Dear Silvia, under the malasinterpetaciones and given the short > time available, I viajarsolo to Singapore. For monthly reunin where > formally the presence of someone who desempee as is necessary > Secretary, see if Leon, Vanda or Ftima can desempear this function. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] In the name of > Alberto > Thicket > Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56 pm > To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: > person > LACRALO to travel Singapore. > > > Dear Silvia, just answer Carlton on the same cuestin. > Just trying to Humberto is replaced with the same functionality with > which we are working. This is not a prize, only replacement > requires some peculiarities. > And as I said before, I think my behavior through the years not worth a > qualification of this type. > If this causes problems, then I withdraw the proposed replacement and see > how achievement desempear my duties during the meeting in Singapore. > I was alone in Los Angeles and hope to arreglrmelas again. > For Monthly Reunin, you will ask Len, Ftima or Vanda that desempeen > the function of Secretariat. > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:18 > pm > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel > Singapore. > Importance: High > > > Dear all: > I'm surprised with the request condition of bilingualism posed > Alberto. And also catches my attention that this issue has been raised > directly and tried to resolve the monthly teleconference without > after consulting the list of LACRALO. > I totally agree with Carlton and I am absolutely opposed to this > given exclusive. And like Carlton advise the ALS to be > express in the same way. > It seems long gone and who makes this proposal (Alberto) seems not > LACRALO have been part of since its inception. > These issues have already been discussed extensively and luckily RESOLVED > to post > a general understanding that we are a region mainly two > major languages \u200b\u200b(although we have ms) and either (espaol > and English) are most important one another. > I do not think I'm writing this on the day today after so many years of > attempts at union between Latinoamrica and Caribbean !!! > > > I want to nominate Sergio Salinas Porto for his work tirelessly since > always LACRALO, including without ningn official position that would force > to. Also, currently, Sergio is leading two workgroups > in our region and I think it is an excellent member of LACRALO for > represent us in Singapore. > No ms, > Best regards, > Sylvia > > > ___________________________________________________ > Sylvia Leite Herlein > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > ALAC-LACRALO NomComm 2014-2015 Delegate to One World, One Internet > > > Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 > ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 2009-2011 Member ALAC ex - > http://atlarge.icann.org > Skype: sylvia_leite > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. > From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > FWIW, LACRALO can not make this request condition language. This is > intrinsically discriminatory and do not defend the interests of LACRALO. > > > > > Record that, unless it withdraws objection will be allowed in > principle, and advise all ALS Caribbean to do the same. > > > > > -Carlton > > > > The sea, January 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm, Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > i wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > > > > ================================= > > Dear all > > > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a > traveler > > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in > > our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help > us > > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity > building > > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition > > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does > > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alberto Soto > >

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Jan. 21, 2015

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Regards Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Leite Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org ALAC-LACRALO Delegate to NomComm 2014-2015 One World, One Internet Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 - ex - ALAC Member 2009-2011 - http://atlarge.icann.org Skype: sylvia_leite ----- Original ----- Mensagem From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Humberto Carrasco Em Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:19 To: Alberto Soto Cc: 'At-Large Staff; LACRALO Spanish Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] FW: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person who will travel to Singapore. Alberto, At the monthly meeting takes part I like. I guess although formally there is someone to replace me, I'll be virtually equal. Hug Sent from my iPhone > El 21-01-2015, a las 3:24, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > Estimada Silvia, en virtud de las malasinterpetaciones y dado el corto > tiempo disponible, viajaré solo a Singapur. Para la reunión mensual > donde formalmente es necesaria la presencia de alguien que se > desempeñe como Secretario, veremos si Leon, Vanda o Fátima pueden desempeñar esa función. > Saludos cordiales > > Alberto Soto > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > Alberto Soto Enviado el: martes, 20 de enero de 2015 06:56 p.m. > Para: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: > persona LACRALO que viajará a Singapur. > > Estimada Silvia, acabo de contestar a Carlton sobre la misma cuestión. > Solo trato de que Humberto sea reemplazado con la misma funcionalidad > con la cual estamos trabajando. Esto no es un premio, solo un > reemplazo que requiere de algunas particularidades. > Y como dije antes, creo mi conducta a través de los años no merece > una calificación de este tipo. > Si esto causa problemas, entonces retiro la propuesta de reemplazo y > veremos cómo logro desempeñar mis funciones durante el meeting de Singapur. > Estuve solo en Los Angeles y espero poder arreglármelas nuevamente. > Para la Reunión Mensual, Le pediré a León, Fátima o Vanda que se > desempeñen la función de Secretaría. > Saludos cordiales > > Alberto Soto > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Enviado el: martes, 20 de enero de 2015 > 06:18 p.m. > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO que > viajará a Singapur. > Importancia: Alta > > Estimados todos: > Estoy sorprendida con la solicitud de condición de bilingüismo que > plantea Alberto. Y también me llama la atención que este tema se haya > planteado directamente y tratado de resolver en la teleconferencia > mensual , sin previa consulta a la lista de LACRALO. > Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con Carlton y me opongo absolutamente a > esta propuesta excluyente. Y al igual que Carlton aconsejaré a las ALS > a que se manifiesten de la misma manera . > Parece cosa del pasado y quien hace esta propuesta ( Alberto) parece > no haber sido parte de LACRALO desde su inicio. > Estos temas ya fueron discutidos ampliamente y por suerte RESUELTOS en > post de un entendimiento general de que somos una región > mayoritariamente con dos idiomas principales ( aunque tenemos más) y > que ninguno de los dos ( español e Inglés) tienen más importancia uno del otro. > No creo estar escribiendo esto en el día de hoy después de tantos años > de intentos de unión entre Latinoamérica y Caribe!!! > > Yo quiero nominar a Sergio Salinas Porto por su trabajo sin descanso > desde siempre en LACRALO, inclusive sin tener ningún cargo oficial que > lo obligue a hacerlo. Además, actualmente, Sergio está liderando 2 > grupos de trabajo en nuestra región y creo que es un excelente > miembro de LACRALO para representarnos en Singapur. > Sin más, > Saludos cordiales, > Sylvia > > ___________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > LACRALO-ALAC Delegate to NomComm 2014-2015 One World, One Internet > > Secretaria FLUI 2009-2015 > ex - Secretaria LACRALO-ICANN/ 2012-2014 – ex – ALAC Member 2009-2011 > - http://atlarge.icann.org > Skype: sylvia_leite > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de > carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Enviada em: martes, 20 de enero de 2015 > 18:26 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO que viajará a Singapur. > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO que viajará a Singapur. > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > Fwiw, LACRALO no puede hacer que la condición idioma a esta solicitud. > Es intrínsecamente discriminatorio y no defender los intereses de LACRALO. > > > Se deja constancia de que, a menos que se retira voy a objetar, en > principio, y asesorar a todos los ALS del Caribe a hacer lo mismo. > > > -Carlton > > > > > ============================== > Carlton Un Samuels > Móvil: 876-818-1799 > * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega > * ============================= > > > El mar, 20 de enero 2015 a las 2:13 de la tarde, Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > escribió: > > >> Dear all, >> >> Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > ====================================================================== > ====== > ================================= >> Dear all >> >> Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a >> traveler to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested >> yesterday in our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos >> Aguirre. He can help us to organize meetings F2F with possible >> speakers for our Capacity building events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. >> >> If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only >> condition would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and >> that he/she does not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. >> >> Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Alberto Soto >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: >> lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of >> asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM >> To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will >> travel to Singapore. >> >> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> >> Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. >> From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> >> Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose >> it to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also >> specify F2F meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin >> our plan, since it is who is in charge of it. >> If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is >> that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems. >> We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC. >> Best Regards >> Alberto Soto >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> >> Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00 >> To: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco < >> hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> >> CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> >> Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. >> >> >> Dear Alberto, >> >> >> CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to >> Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions. >> >> >> Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore ASAP. >> >> >> Silvia >> >> >> >> >> Silvia Vivanco >> Manager, At Large Regional Affairs >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers >> www.icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: ICANN Constituency Travel >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42 >> To: Silvia Vivanco >> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff >> Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to >> Singapore >> >> >> Dear Silvia, >> >> >> If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. >> Could you please send me the name? >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> Joseph of Jesus >> Travel Support Manager >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >> >> >> Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880 >> Mobile: +1.562.881.7326 >> Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074 >> >> >> Email: joseph.dejesus(a)icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus@icann.org> >> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., "Silvia Vivanco" < >> silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > Wrote: >>> Dear Joseph, >>> >>> Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will >>> NOT Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and >>> Buenos >> Aires >>> Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy >>> For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto >>> That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and >>> Humberto Will need to take care of His child During the treatment. >>> >>> Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at >>> Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in >>> Humberto's place. >>> >>> Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta >>> Arrangement would be possible. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Silvia >>> >>> >>> Silvia Vivanco >>> Manager, At Large Regional Affairs >>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers >>> Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org] >>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08 >>> To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco >>> Subject: RE: Question on both >>> >>> Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if >>> Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two >> F2F. >>> Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace? >>> I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos >>> Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or Prohibited >>> and what is not estprohibido estpermitido. >>> Hug >>> >>> Alberto >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, >>> January 19, 2015 2:01 pm >>> To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco >>> Subject: Consultation on both >>> >>> Dear, >>> >>> ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in >> Singapore >>> Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have >>> 14 radiotherapy sessions. >>> >>> This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is >>> because >> I go >>> Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the >>> day Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of >>> Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be >> radiotherapy, >>> But They will have to do unfortunately. >>> >>> This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office >>> Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore Now, >>> neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that Have in >>> Germany.However, others may attend meetings Dublin and the next as >>> the treatment of my child ends in July. >>> Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but Without the >>> possibility to attend these meetings. >>> >>> >>> Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to >>> give >> up >>> My secretary not to travel to these events, or if Possible to >>> continue without attending to them. >>> >>> Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation. >>> >>> A hug to both >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail in For viruses. >>> Http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a4369797bb.html --]]

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Jan. 21, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = From: apisanty(a)gmail.com Mr. King, ud. leymi original text in inglso in Translation of translation? ud. He is a teacher of languages \u200b\u200bsince 1971? To act with greater balance, I will write in Spanish. Many Latin Americans are bilingual and you. no (os). His insults to the domain of language by members of the community are inaccurate and free. His climbing this argumentation is unconstructive. You. Has not intervened in matters of policy ("policy"). We remain waiting for your contribution. This I estclaro? Answer in Spanish and ganarun extra point. Adis. Alejandro Pisanty 20/01/2015 21:47 GMT-06: 00 <rok(a)bango.org.bb> : > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW > = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > Desde: rok(a)bango.org.bb > > Usted leyó mi correo electrónico y verá que no se da ningún insulto y > ninguno es > tomado. Esto en cuanto a su Inglés. > > > ROK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre del > apisanty(a)gmail.com > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 21:51 > Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = > 2E = > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] > > > Asunto: Re: ???????= ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = > = = Iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > Desde: apisanty(a)gmail.com > > > Roosevelt, > > > > > demasiado triste. He llamado a usted para disminuir el nivel de agresión > y usted > Han vuelto a fracasar. Su texto se puede encontrar desdeñoso de los > esfuerzos de largo plazo > de muchos en la comunidad, mientras que no tenemos pruebas de equivalente > de esfuerzos > Hacia el multilingüismo de su lado. Además no veo cómo eres > credentialled al dominio del lenguaje juez, pero estaría encantado de ver > la prueba. > > > > > Espero que los que se sienten insultados personal o colectivamente tendrá > this > importa al Defensor del Pueblo de inmediato. Estoy dispuesto a hacer lo > mismo si this > ampliación de los insultos y desdeño no se detiene inmediatamente, para el > beneficio de la comunidad. > > > > > Así que, vamos a intentar otra táctica (disculpas por Introduciendo this > término náutico, > no es un error para el caso "pista" que estabas pensando así.) > Es un largo > tiempo que no veíamos una contribución de la política de la > organización.Somos > Tener una discusión política importante. ¿No sería más constructivo que > usted ', después de una rápida consulta con miembros de su organización, > pone > remitir una contribución? También supongo que será ejemplar en el uso de > el idioma para que todos podamos ajustar nuestras normas arriba. > > > > > La principal discusión de políticas lista está relacionada con la > búsqueda de los 5 mejores riesgos que > Te podemos recomendar Comité de Riesgos de la Junta directiva de ICANN a > considerar. > > > > > También pregunta si tengo la base para la inclusión de los países en > LACRALO > Pueden haber quedado obsoletos. Aunque eso no es una consideración > política urgente, se > Puede ser útil para reflexionar sobre el fin de encontrar una salida más > constructiva para > lo que te leo como su irritación y puede considerar sólo un objetivo > expresión. > > > > > Una vez más permítanme subrayar que todos deben esforzarse para demostrar > a nosotros mismos, la > Organizaciones que representamos, y LACRALO en su conjunto, para ser un > constructivo > forzar y debidamente representar y promover los intereses de nuestros > geográfica > los usuarios de la región de Internet. > > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > 20/01/2015 19:37 GMT-06: 00 <rok(a)bango.org.bb> : > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW > > = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > > Desde: rok(a)bango.org.bb > > > > Perdone, pero ?qui es esto que se ha intentado escribir en Inglis? ?O es > > que un > > traduccisn abajo? Certificacisn? Por favor, no me hagas remr. Todo lo > que > > soy > > dicho es que las habilidades que he visto en este grupo no pueden > cumplir > > con la norma > > de biling|e. De ahm a decir que una persona en particular califica > porque > > son biling|es es mas hilarante. El nivel de competencia requerido en > > ambos lados (para un ejercicio como este) es demasiado alto. No hay > > excusas tampoco. Asm > > no puede haber una precalificacisn de nadie. > > > > > > ROK > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre del > > apisan(a)unam.mx > > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 19:43 > > Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ???????= ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = > > 2E = > > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] > > > > > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW > > = = Iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > > Desde: apisan(a)unam.mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roosevelt, > > > > > > > > > > su estado de cuenta about competencia Inglis-idioma Entre los miembros > de > > LACRALO > > Cuya lengua materna no es Inglis Puede ser incompletas, incorrectas, > > inexactas, > > inexacto, injusto, o todo lo anterior. Para muchos, Inglis no es sslo un > > segundo idioma aprendido, puede ser su tercera, despuis de haber > dominado > > espaqol y > > Portuguis primero, y luego un francis. > > > > > > > > > > Muchos de nosotros no sslo han demostrado en la practica nuestros > > conocimientos del idioma, sino que tenga > > les habman certificado, en algunos casos, como requisito obligatorio y > > exigente > > para estudios de postgrado o de puestos de trabajo. > > > > > > > > > > Puedo necesitar que insta a mostrar un poco de respeto y evitar la > > intensificacisn de la > > divisionismo ya visible en la lista de esta, que puedan utspicos algunos > > de nosotros > > todavma tratar de salvar como comunidad. > > > > > > > > > > Ahora, por supuesto que no debermamos no asistan a las corrientes mas > > profundas de su > > contable actual ni una visisn mas amplia de la actualidad, y podrma > > comenzar tambiin > > para revisar las razones por las que seguimos a golpear la cabeza contra > > una pared de > > incomprensisn mutua. Las razones que se reconocis a las regiones de ALC, > > algunos clubes de campo con una contribucisn significativa considera > > parte de la misma, fue > > no la homogeneidad de lenguaje, sino la de las tradiciones jurmdicas - > lo > > que es > > llamado "Continental" vis vis derecho comzn. Tal vez hemos > > intentado > > suficiente y es el momento para una nueva mirada? El Otro criterio > > importante que > > se aplics para asignar a los clubes de LACRALO y NARALO pams, basado en > > fmsica > > conectividad y las fuentes de las direcciones IP, puede haberse > > convertido en gran parte > > irrelevante Dado el florecimiento de las cuestiones relevantes en el > > nombre de dominio > > espacio y de gobierno en sm. > > > > > > > > > > Yours (no, no realmente) > > > > > > > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > > > > > PS likey da Speechy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > Facultad de Qummica de la UNAM > > Universidad Av 3000. 04510 Mixico DF Mixico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + 52-1-5541444475 DESDE EL EXTRANJERO > > > > > > > > > > DE MEXICO SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 > > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > Znase al grupo de LinkedIn UNAM, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > ---- >> Znete ISOC Mixico, http://www.isoc.org > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de > > rok(a)bango.org.bb [rok(a)bango.org .bb] > > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:02 > > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = > > 2E = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (en -> es) -]] > > > > > > > > > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW > > = = Iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > > Desde: rok(a)bango.org.bb > > > > > > > > > > Slo no entiendo qubilinge. No he visto a nadie que LA > > Il es experto en Ingls, asque'm a pirdida. Usted esta definitivamente > > fuera de > > orden > > TRADUCCISN porque siempre es ...o se trata de un intento de dejar de > lado > > la > > Inglis Caribe de habla? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:45 > > Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asunto: Re: ???????= ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW > = > > > > > > = = ISO-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > > Desde: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Estimado Carlton. Con Humberto formado un equipo y tratar de hacer lo > > mejor para nuestro > > Regin. > > Temporalmente colaboracisn a necesitar a alguien que es biling|e, por > > mantener la funcionalidad del equipo. > > Si es sustituido por alguien que sslo habla Ingls, lo que molests por > > Ingls mi nivel. > > Si es para alguien que sslo habla espaqol, usted tendrproblemas en > > reuniones que no tienen traduccisn. Ademas no nos vamos de vacaciones, > > suele reunirse cuando sea necesario y repartman a asistir a diversos > > reuniones en que esto sea necessary'm no discriminan a nadie, y > > lo siento por aquellos que no hablan espaqol y tambiin por aquellos que > > no hablan > > > > > > Inglis, pero creo que la funcionalidad. > > Sque el idioma oficial es el Inglis, pero estamos en una Regin donde > > multilinge, y mi comportamiento durante muchos aqos en el mismo, que no > > merezco > > Me tilden de conductas discriminatorias. > > Atentamente > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > > carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:26 > > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO viajar Singapur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (en -> es) -]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO viajar Singapur. > > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fwiw, LACRALO no puede hacer esta solicitud condicisn idioma. Es > > intrmnsecamente discriminatorio y no defender los intereses de LACRALO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Record que a menos que el retiro se permitiren objecin > > principio, > > y asesorar a todos ALS Caribe a hacer lo mismo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Carlton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Carlton Un Samuels > > Msvil: 876-818-1799 > > * Estrategia, planificacisn, Gobierno, entrega Evaluaciny * > > ============================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar 20 de enero 2015 a las 14:13 Silvia Vivanco > > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > > Escribm: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a > > traveler > > > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday > in > > > our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help > > us > > > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity > > building > > > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > > > > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only > condition > > > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she > does > > > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > > > > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > > > lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > > > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM > > > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will > > > to Singapore. > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > > > Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. > > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > > > > Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose > it > > > to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also specify > > > meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin our plan, since > > it > > > is who is in charge of it. > > > If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is > > > that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems. > > > We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC. > > > Best Regards > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > > > Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00 > > > To: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco < > > > hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> > > > CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > > Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. > > > > > > > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > > > > > > CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to > > > Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions. > > > > > > > > > Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore > > > > > > > > > Silvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > > > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > > > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > > www.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: ICANN Constituency Travel > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42 > > > To: Silvia Vivanco > > > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff > > > Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to > Singapore > > > > > > > > > Dear Silvia, > > > > > > > > > If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. > Could > > > you please send me the name? > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > Joseph of Jesus > > > Travel Support Manager > > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > > > > > > Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880 > > > Mobile: +1.562.881.7326 > > > Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074 > > > > > > > > > Email: joseph.dejesus(a)icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus@icann.org> > > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., "Silvia Vivanco" < > > > silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > Wrote: > > > > Dear Joseph, > > > > > > > > Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will > NOT > > > > Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and Buenos > > > Aires > > > > Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy > > > > For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto > > > > That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and > > Humberto > > > > Will need to take care of His child During the treatment. > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at > > > > Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in > > > > Humberto's place. > > > > > > > > Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta > > > > Arrangement would be possible. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Silvia > > > > > > > > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > > > > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > > > > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > > > Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org] > > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08 > > > > To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco > > > > Subject: RE: Question on both > > > > > > > > Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if > > > > Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two > > > F2F. > > > > Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace? > > > > I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos > > > > Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or > > > > Prohibited and what is not estprohibido estpermitido. > > > > Hug > > > > > > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com] Sent: > Monday, > > > > January 19, 2015 2:01 pm > > > > To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco > > > > Subject: Consultation on both > > > > > > > > Dear, > > > > > > > > ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in > > > Singapore > > > > Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have > > > > 14 radiotherapy sessions. > > > > > > > > This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is > > because > > > I go > > > > Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the > > day > > > > Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of > > > > Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be > > > radiotherapy, > > > > But They will have to do unfortunately. > > > > > > > > This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office > > > > Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore > > > > Now, neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that > > > > Have in Germany.However, others may attend meetings > > > > Dublin and the next as the treatment of my child ends in July. > > > > Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but > > > > Without the possibility to attend these meetings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to > > > up > > > > My secretary not to travel to these events, or if > > > > Possible to continue without attending to them. > > > > > > > > Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation. > > > > > > > > A hug to both > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail in > > > > For viruses. > > > > Http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c56c7ae08d.html --]]

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[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:??? Q = utf-8 RV = 3A_ = 5Blac-discuss-en = 5D = 09_RES 3A_F = = = utf-8 q = wd = 3A_FW 3A_URGENTE = 3A_persona_LACRALO_que_viajar = C3 = A1_a_Singa =????? =? utf-8? q? pur = 2E? = From: hcarrasco(a)cmsz.cl Alberto, At the monthly meeting takes part I like. I guess although formally there is someone to replace me, I'll be virtually equal. Hug Sent from my iPhone > El 21-01-2015, a las 3:24, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > Estimada Silvia, en virtud de las malasinterpetaciones y dado el corto > tiempo disponible, viajaré solo a Singapur. Para la reunión mensual donde > formalmente es necesaria la presencia de alguien que se desempeñe como > Secretario, veremos si Leon, Vanda o Fátima pueden desempeñar esa función. > Saludos cordiales > > Alberto Soto > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de Alberto > Soto > Enviado el: martes, 20 de enero de 2015 06:56 p.m. > Para: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona > LACRALO que viajará a Singapur. > > Estimada Silvia, acabo de contestar a Carlton sobre la misma cuestión. > Solo trato de que Humberto sea reemplazado con la misma funcionalidad con la > cual estamos trabajando. Esto no es un premio, solo un reemplazo que > requiere de algunas particularidades. > Y como dije antes, creo mi conducta a través de los años no merece una > calificación de este tipo. > Si esto causa problemas, entonces retiro la propuesta de reemplazo y veremos > cómo logro desempeñar mis funciones durante el meeting de Singapur. > Estuve solo en Los Angeles y espero poder arreglármelas nuevamente. > Para la Reunión Mensual, Le pediré a León, Fátima o Vanda que se desempeñen > la función de Secretaría. > Saludos cordiales > > Alberto Soto > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Enviado el: martes, 20 de enero de 2015 06:18 > p.m. > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO que viajará > a Singapur. > Importancia: Alta > > Estimados todos: > Estoy sorprendida con la solicitud de condición de bilingüismo que plantea > Alberto. Y también me llama la atención que este tema se haya planteado > directamente y tratado de resolver en la teleconferencia mensual , sin > previa consulta a la lista de LACRALO. > Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con Carlton y me opongo absolutamente a esta > propuesta excluyente. Y al igual que Carlton aconsejaré a las ALS a que se > manifiesten de la misma manera . > Parece cosa del pasado y quien hace esta propuesta ( Alberto) parece no > haber sido parte de LACRALO desde su inicio. > Estos temas ya fueron discutidos ampliamente y por suerte RESUELTOS en post > de un entendimiento general de que somos una región mayoritariamente con dos > idiomas principales ( aunque tenemos más) y que ninguno de los dos ( español > e Inglés) tienen más importancia uno del otro. > No creo estar escribiendo esto en el día de hoy después de tantos años de > intentos de unión entre Latinoamérica y Caribe!!! > > Yo quiero nominar a Sergio Salinas Porto por su trabajo sin descanso desde > siempre en LACRALO, inclusive sin tener ningún cargo oficial que lo obligue > a hacerlo. Además, actualmente, Sergio está liderando 2 grupos de trabajo > en nuestra región y creo que es un excelente miembro de LACRALO para > representarnos en Singapur. > Sin más, > Saludos cordiales, > Sylvia > > ___________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > LACRALO-ALAC Delegate to NomComm 2014-2015 One World, One Internet > > Secretaria FLUI 2009-2015 > ex - Secretaria LACRALO-ICANN/ 2012-2014 – ex – ALAC Member 2009-2011 - > http://atlarge.icann.org > Skype: sylvia_leite > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de > carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Enviada em: martes, 20 de enero de 2015 18:26 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO que viajará a Singapur. > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO que viajará a Singapur. > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > Fwiw, LACRALO no puede hacer que la condición idioma a esta solicitud. Es > intrínsecamente discriminatorio y no defender los intereses de LACRALO. > > > Se deja constancia de que, a menos que se retira voy a objetar, en > principio, y asesorar a todos los ALS del Caribe a hacer lo mismo. > > > -Carlton > > > > > ============================== > Carlton Un Samuels > Móvil: 876-818-1799 > * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * > ============================= > > > El mar, 20 de enero 2015 a las 2:13 de la tarde, Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > escribió: > > >> Dear all, >> >> Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > ============================================================================ > ================================= >> Dear all >> >> Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a traveler >> to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in >> our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help us >> to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity building >> events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. >> >> If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition >> would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does >> not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. >> >> Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Alberto Soto >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: >> lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of >> asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM >> To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel >> to Singapore. >> >> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> >> Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. >> From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> >> Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose it >> to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also specify F2F >> meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin our plan, since it >> is who is in charge of it. >> If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is >> that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems. >> We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC. >> Best Regards >> Alberto Soto >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> >> Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00 >> To: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco < >> hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> >> CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> >> Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. >> >> >> Dear Alberto, >> >> >> CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to >> Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions. >> >> >> Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore ASAP. >> >> >> Silvia >> >> >> >> >> Silvia Vivanco >> Manager, At Large Regional Affairs >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers >> www.icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: ICANN Constituency Travel >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42 >> To: Silvia Vivanco >> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff >> Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to Singapore >> >> >> Dear Silvia, >> >> >> If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. Could >> you please send me the name? >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> Joseph of Jesus >> Travel Support Manager >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >> >> >> Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880 >> Mobile: +1.562.881.7326 >> Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074 >> >> >> Email: joseph.dejesus(a)icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus@icann.org> >> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., "Silvia Vivanco" < >> silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > Wrote: >>> Dear Joseph, >>> >>> Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will NOT >>> Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and Buenos >> Aires >>> Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy >>> For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto >>> That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and Humberto >>> Will need to take care of His child During the treatment. >>> >>> Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at >>> Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in >>> Humberto's place. >>> >>> Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta >>> Arrangement would be possible. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Silvia >>> >>> >>> Silvia Vivanco >>> Manager, At Large Regional Affairs >>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers >>> Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org] >>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08 >>> To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco >>> Subject: RE: Question on both >>> >>> Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if >>> Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two >> F2F. >>> Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace? >>> I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos >>> Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or >>> Prohibited and what is not estprohibido estpermitido. >>> Hug >>> >>> Alberto >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, >>> January 19, 2015 2:01 pm >>> To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco >>> Subject: Consultation on both >>> >>> Dear, >>> >>> ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in >> Singapore >>> Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have >>> 14 radiotherapy sessions. >>> >>> This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is because >> I go >>> Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the day >>> Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of >>> Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be >> radiotherapy, >>> But They will have to do unfortunately. >>> >>> This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office >>> Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore >>> Now, neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that >>> Have in Germany.However, others may attend meetings >>> Dublin and the next as the treatment of my child ends in July. >>> Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but >>> Without the possibility to attend these meetings. >>> >>> >>> Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to give >> up >>> My secretary not to travel to these events, or if >>> Possible to continue without attending to them. >>> >>> Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation. >>> >>> A hug to both >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail in >>> For viruses. >>> Http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f7cd535bd3.html --]]

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by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject:??? Q = iso-8859-1 RV = 3A_ = 5Blac-discuss-en = 5D = 09_RES = = iso-8859-1 q = 3A_Fwd = 3A_FW 3A_URGENTE = = = = iso 3A_persona_LACRALO_que_via?????? -8859-1? q? jar = E1_a_Singapur = 2E? = From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear Silvia, under the malasinterpetaciones and given the short time available, I viajarsolo to Singapore. For monthly reunin where formally the presence of someone who desempee as is necessary Secretary, see if Leon, Vanda or Ftima can desempear this function. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] In the name of Alberto Thicket Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56 pm To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: person LACRALO to travel Singapore. Dear Silvia, just answer Carlton on the same cuestin. Just trying to Humberto is replaced with the same functionality with which we are working. This is not a prize, only replacement requires some peculiarities. And as I said before, I think my behavior through the years not worth a qualification of this type. If this causes problems, then I withdraw the proposed replacement and see how achievement desempear my duties during the meeting in Singapore. I was alone in Los Angeles and hope to arreglrmelas again. For Monthly Reunin, you will ask Len, Ftima or Vanda that desempeen the function of Secretariat. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Posted on: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:18 pm To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. Importance: High Dear all: I'm surprised with the request condition of bilingualism posed Alberto. And also catches my attention that this issue has been raised directly and tried to resolve the monthly teleconference without after consulting the list of LACRALO. I totally agree with Carlton and I am absolutely opposed to this given exclusive. And like Carlton advise the ALS to be express in the same way. It seems long gone and who makes this proposal (Alberto) seems not LACRALO have been part of since its inception. These issues have already been discussed extensively and luckily RESOLVED to post a general understanding that we are a region mainly two major languages \u200b\u200b(although we have ms) and either (espaol and English) are most important one another. I do not think I'm writing this on the day today after so many years of attempts at union between Latinoamrica and Caribbean !!! I want to nominate Sergio Salinas Porto for his work tirelessly since always LACRALO, including without ningn official position that would force to. Also, currently, Sergio is leading two workgroups in our region and I think it is an excellent member of LACRALO for represent us in Singapore. No ms, Best regards, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Leite Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org ALAC-LACRALO NomComm 2014-2015 Delegate to One World, One Internet Secretary FLUI 2009-2015 ex - Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2014 2009-2011 Member ALAC ex - http://atlarge.icann.org Skype: sylvia_leite ----- Original ----- Mensagem From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com em Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 18:26 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. [[--Translated Text (en -> en) -]] Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person to travel Singapore. From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com FWIW, LACRALO can not make this request condition language. This is intrinsically discriminatory and do not defend the interests of LACRALO. Record that, unless it withdraws objection will be allowed in principle, and advise all ALS Caribbean to do the same. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, planning, Government, Evaluaciny delivery * ============================= The sea, January 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> i wrote: > Dear all, > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > ================================= > Dear all > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a traveler > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in > our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help us > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity building > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > Kind regards, > > Alberto Soto > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel > to Singapore. > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose it > to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also specify F2F > meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin our plan, since it > is who is in charge of it. > If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is > that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems. > We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC. > Best Regards > Alberto Soto > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00 > To: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco < > hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> > CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. > > > Dear Alberto, > > > CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to > Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions. > > > Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore ASAP. > > > Silvia > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > www.icann.org > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ICANN Constituency Travel > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42 > To: Silvia Vivanco > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff > Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to Singapore > > > Dear Silvia, > > > If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. Could > you please send me the name? > > > Best wishes, > > > Joseph of Jesus > Travel Support Manager > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880 > Mobile: +1.562.881.7326 > Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074 > > > Email: joseph.dejesus(a)icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus@icann.org> > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., "Silvia Vivanco" < > silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > Wrote: > > Dear Joseph, > > > > Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will NOT > > Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and Buenos > Aires > > Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy > > For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto > > That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and Humberto > > Will need to take care of His child During the treatment. > > > > Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at > > Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in > > Humberto's place. > > > > Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta > > Arrangement would be possible. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Silvia > > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org] > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08 > > To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco > > Subject: RE: Question on both > > > > Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if > > Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two > F2F. > > Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace? > > I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos > > Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or > > Prohibited and what is not estprohibido estpermitido. > > Hug > > > > Alberto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, > > January 19, 2015 2:01 pm > > To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco > > Subject: Consultation on both > > > > Dear, > > > > ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in > Singapore > > Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have > > 14 radiotherapy sessions. > > > > This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is because > I go > > Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the day > > Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of > > Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be > radiotherapy, > > But They will have to do unfortunately. > > > > This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office > > Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore > > Now, neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that > > Have in Germany.However, others may attend meetings > > Dublin and the next as the treatment of my child ends in July. > > Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but > > Without the possibility to attend these meetings. > > > > > > Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to give > up > > My secretary not to travel to these events, or if > > Possible to continue without attending to them. > > > > Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation. > > > > A hug to both > > > > > > --- > > Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail in > > For viruses. > > Http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > > > - > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6d6a761d96.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore.
by Silvia Vivanco Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

Dear all, Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: ============================================================================================================= Dear all Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a traveler to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help us to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity building events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. Kind regards, Alberto Soto -----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose it to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also specify F2F meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin our plan, since it is who is in charge of it. If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems. We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC. Best Regards Alberto Soto -------- Original Message -------- From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00 To: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. Dear Alberto, CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions. Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore ASAP. Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org ----- Original Message ----- From: ICANN Constituency Travel Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42 To: Silvia Vivanco Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to Singapore Dear Silvia, If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. Could you please send me the name? Best wishes, Joseph of Jesus Travel Support Manager Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880 Mobile: +1.562.881.7326 Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074 Email: joseph.dejesus(a)icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus@icann.org> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., "Silvia Vivanco" <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > Wrote: > Dear Joseph, > > Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will NOT > Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and Buenos Aires > Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy > For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto > That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and Humberto > Will need to take care of His child During the treatment. > > Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at > Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in > Humberto's place. > > Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta > Arrangement would be possible. > > Thank you! > > Kind regards, > > Silvia > > > Silvia Vivanco > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08 > To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco > Subject: RE: Question on both > > Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if > Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two F2F. > Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace? > I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos > Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or > Prohibited and what is not estprohibido estpermitido. > Hug > > Alberto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, > January 19, 2015 2:01 pm > To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco > Subject: Consultation on both > > Dear, > > ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in Singapore > Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have > 14 radiotherapy sessions. > > This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is because I go > Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the day > Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of > Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be radiotherapy, > But They will have to do unfortunately. > > This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office > Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore > Now, neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that > Have in Germany.However, others may attend meetings > Dublin and the next as the treatment of my child ends in July. > Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but > Without the possibility to attend these meetings. > > > Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to give up > My secretary not to travel to these events, or if > Possible to continue without attending to them. > > Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation. > > A hug to both > > > --- > Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail in > For viruses. > Http://www.avast.com > - Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/352fc2d725.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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by apisanty＠gmail.com Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = From: apisanty(a)gmail.com Roosevelt, too sad. I've called upon you to diminish the level of aggression and you Have failed again. Your text can be found dismissive of long-time Efforts of many in the community, while we have no equivalent evidence of Efforts Toward multilingualism on your side. Also I fail to see how you are credentialled to judge language mastery but would be happy to see proof. I hope Those Who feel personally insulted or collectively will take esta matter to the Ombudsman immediately. I am prepared to do so myself if esta scaling-up of insult and dismissiveness does not stop Immediately, for the benefit of the community. So, let's try another tack (apologies for Introducing esta nautical term, not a typo for "track" Case You Were thinking so.) It's a long time since we saw a contribution from your organization policy. We are Having an Important policy discussion. Would not it be constructive that you ', after a quick Consultation with your organization's membership, put forward a contribution? Also I guess it will be exemplary in your use of the language so we can all adjust our standards upward. The main list policy discussion is related to finding the top 5 Risks That May we recommend the ICANN Board's Risk Committee to consider. Also Asked Whether I have the basis for inclusion of countries in LACRALO May Have obsoleted. While That Is not an urgent policy consideration, it May be useful to ponder in order to find a more constructive outlet for what I read you as your irritation and May Consider only an objective expression. Again let me underline That We Should all STRIVE to prove ourselves, the Organizations we Represent, and LACRALO as a whole, to be a constructive force and duly Represent and Promote the Interests of our geographical region's Internet users. Alejandro Pisanty 20/01/2015 19:37 GMT-06: 00 <rok(a)bango.org.bb> : > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW > = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > Desde: rok(a)bango.org.bb > > Perdone, pero ¿qué es esto que se ha intentado escribir en Inglés? ¿O es > que un > traducción abajo? Certificación? Por favor, no me hagas reír. Todo lo que > soy > dicho es que las habilidades que he visto en este grupo no pueden cumplir > con la norma > de bilingüe. De ahí a decir que una persona en particular califica porque > son bilingües es más hilarante. El nivel de competencia requerido en > ambos lados (para un ejercicio como este) es demasiado alto. No hay > excusas tampoco. Así > no puede haber una precalificación de nadie. > > > ROK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre del > apisan(a)unam.mx > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 19:43 > Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ???????= ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = > 2E = > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] > > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = > = = Iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > Desde: apisan(a)unam.mx > > > > > > > Roosevelt, > > > > > su estado de cuenta about competencia Inglis-idioma Entre los miembros de > LACRALO > Cuya lengua materna no es Inglis Puede ser incompletas, incorrectas, > inexactas, > inexacto, injusto, o todo lo anterior. Para muchos, Inglis no es sólo un > segundo idioma aprendido, puede ser su tercera, después de haber dominado > español y > Portugués primero, y luego un francés. > > > > > Muchos de nosotros no sólo han demostrado en la práctica nuestros > conocimientos del idioma, sino que tenga > les habían certificado, en algunos casos, como requisito obligatorio y > exigente > para estudios de postgrado o de puestos de trabajo. > > > > > Puedo necesitar que insta a mostrar un poco de respeto y evitar la > intensificación de la > divisionismo ya visible en la lista de esta, que puedan utópicos algunos > de nosotros > todavía tratar de salvar como comunidad. > > > > > Ahora, por supuesto que no deberíamos no asistan a las corrientes más > profundas de su > contable actual ni una visión más amplia de la actualidad, y podría > comenzar también > para revisar las razones por las que seguimos a golpear la cabeza contra > una pared de > incomprensión mutua. Las razones que se reconoció a las regiones de ALC, y > algunos clubes de campo con una contribución significativa considera > parte de la misma, fue > no la homogeneidad de lenguaje, sino la de las tradiciones jurídicas - lo > que es > llamado "Continental" vis vis derecho común. Tal vez hemos > intentado > suficiente y es el momento para una nueva mirada? El Otro criterio > importante que > se aplicó para asignar a los clubes de LACRALO y NARALO país, basado en > física > conectividad y las fuentes de las direcciones IP, puede haberse > convertido en gran parte > irrelevante Dado el florecimiento de las cuestiones relevantes en el > nombre de dominio > espacio y de gobierno en sí. > > > > > Yours (no, no realmente) > > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > PS likey da Speechy? > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > Facultad de Química de la UNAM > Universidad Av 3000. 04510 México DF México > > > > > > > > > > > > > + 52-1-5541444475 DESDE EL EXTRANJERO > > > > > DE MEXICO SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > Únase al grupo de LinkedIn UNAM, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > ---- >> Únete ISOC México, http://www.isoc.org > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > ________________________________________ > Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de > rok(a)bango.org.bb [rok(a)bango.org .bb] > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:02 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = > 2E = > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (en -> es) -]] > > > > > Asunto: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = > = = Iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > Desde: rok(a)bango.org.bb > > > > > Slo no entiendo qubilinge. No he visto a nadie que LA > Él es experto en Ingls, asque'm a pérdida. Usted está definitivamente > fuera de > orden > TRADUCCIÓN porque siempre es ...o se trata de un intento de dejar de lado > la > Inglés Caribe de habla? > > > > > > > > > ROK > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:45 > Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L > 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] > > > > > > > > > Asunto: Re: ???????= ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = > > > = = ISO-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E = > Desde: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > > > > > > > Estimado Carlton. Con Humberto formado un equipo y tratar de hacer lo > mejor para nuestro > Regin. > Temporalmente colaboración a necesitar a alguien que es bilingüe, por > mantener la funcionalidad del equipo. > Si es sustituido por alguien que sólo habla Ingls, lo que molestó por > Ingls mi nivel. > Si es para alguien que sólo habla español, usted tendrproblemas en algunos > reuniones que no tienen traducción. Además no nos vamos de vacaciones, > suele reunirse cuando sea necesario y repartían a asistir a diversos > reuniones en que esto sea necessary'm no discriminan a nadie, y > lo siento por aquellos que no hablan español y también por aquellos que > no hablan > > > Inglés, pero creo que la funcionalidad. > Sque el idioma oficial es el Inglés, pero estamos en una Regin donde > multilinge, y mi comportamiento durante muchos años en el mismo, que no > merezco > Me tilden de conductas discriminatorias. > Atentamente > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:26 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO viajar Singapur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Translated Texto (en -> es) -]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO viajar Singapur. > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fwiw, LACRALO no puede hacer esta solicitud condición idioma. Es > intrínsecamente discriminatorio y no defender los intereses de LACRALO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Record que a menos que el retiro se permitiren objecin > principio, > y asesorar a todos ALS Caribe a hacer lo mismo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Carlton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Carlton Un Samuels > Móvil: 876-818-1799 > * Estrategia, planificación, Gobierno, entrega Evaluaciny * > ============================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar 20 de enero 2015 a las 14:13 Silvia Vivanco > <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > Escribí: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair: > > > > > > Dear all > > > > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a > traveler > > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in > > our monthly call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre. He can help > us > > to organize meetings F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity > building > > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities. > > > > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member, the only condition > > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does > > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore. > > > > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > > lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM > > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel > > to Singapore. > > > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > > Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose it > > to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also specify F2F > > meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin our plan, since > it > > is who is in charge of it. > > If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is > > that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems. > > We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC. > > Best Regards > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > > Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00 > > To: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco < > > hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> > > CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore. > > > > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > > > CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to > > Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions. > > > > > > Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore ASAP. > > > > > > Silvia > > > > > > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > www.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ICANN Constituency Travel > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42 > > To: Silvia Vivanco > > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff > > Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to Singapore > > > > > > Dear Silvia, > > > > > > If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. Could > > you please send me the name? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Joseph of Jesus > > Travel Support Manager > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > > > Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880 > > Mobile: +1.562.881.7326 > > Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074 > > > > > > Email: joseph.dejesus(a)icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus@icann.org> > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., "Silvia Vivanco" < > > silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > Wrote: > > > Dear Joseph, > > > > > > Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will NOT > > > Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and Buenos > > Aires > > > Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy > > > For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto > > > That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and > Humberto > > > Will need to take care of His child During the treatment. > > > > > > Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at > > > Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in > > > Humberto's place. > > > > > > Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta > > > Arrangement would be possible. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Silvia > > > > > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > > > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > > > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > > Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org] > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08 > > > To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco > > > Subject: RE: Question on both > > > > > > Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if > > > Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two > > F2F. > > > Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace? > > > I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos > > > Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or > > > Prohibited and what is not estprohibido estpermitido. > > > Hug > > > > > > Alberto > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, > > > January 19, 2015 2:01 pm > > > To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco > > > Subject: Consultation on both > > > > > > Dear, > > > > > > ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in > > Singapore > > > Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have > > > 14 radiotherapy sessions. > > > > > > This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is > because > > I go > > > Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the > day > > > Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of > > > Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be > > radiotherapy, > > > But They will have to do unfortunately. > > > > > > This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office > > > Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore > > > Now, neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that > > > Have in Germany.However, others may attend meetings > > > Dublin and the next as the treatment of my child ends in July. > > > Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but > > > Without the possibility to attend these meetings. > > > > > > > > > Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to give > > up > > > My secretary not to travel to these events, or if > > > Possible to continue without attending to them. > > > > > > Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation. > > > > > > A hug to both > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Avast antivirus software scanned this e-mail in > > > For viruses. > > > Http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bad08a0d36.html --]]

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